I find it interesting how you reject African/Kemetian traditions (Even going so far as calling it mumbo jumbo) yet willingly accept the religion forced upon your people and edited every step of the way as we woke up to the fact that it wasn't ours. Fear is a great herding tool
@7thSwell "I dig your afrikan/kemetian mumbo jumbo ritualistic gumbo
I must stay humble never rumble as your tower of babel crumbles" this statement is made about the secret origin of Black Greek Fraternity traditions and rituals ..this is the translation of that ryhme ( I understand your sideways talk about the origins of secret society rituals and i will stay cool as what is false is exposed ) Religion is forced upon all but the faith in Yahshua is spiritual you must be Born Again.....
Some people false idols include the following: self, house, job, car, career, self image, sex, ambition.......and they eat and drink lustily of these each and every day.......God is my Lord & Creator---Alpha is the fraternity where I use my God-given gifts to be of service to my fellow man through a national organization.....so if you have a distorted view about being a "Greek" then that's on you.....however I refuse to allow my mind be in a prison that I didnt build.....good try!
the sphinx is what it is facing the east Jesus is the Light of the World Apa maybe the light of this world but that is not a place for those who are walking in the Light of Jesus ..or you could just ignore these things and pretend the rituals do not exist ..Shalom
Paper is Real in fact they are in agreement with their orgs .... So called real members are the reason why hazing is so hard to stop.....Made members are like abused children ..They in turn become the abusers ......Born Again Christian have to do major comprimising to gain respect in the shady underground world of black american gangster secret societies ,,,Sad
Anybody who does wrong hates the light and keeps away from it, for fear his deeds may be exposed. But anybody who is living by the truth will come to the light to make it plain that all he has done has been done through God."
Punk! If you didn't appreciate being an Omega Man and a Master of the Craft, why in the Hell did you cross the Sand and rode the Goat. Keep your demonic views to yourself
@NastyDog15 whats up nasty dog ...I use to be a nast dog I am now I am a follower of Yahshua a Born Again Christian Man sharing Christian ManHood with the lost and my brothers who walk in darkness ...Goat Riders need Jesus ..The Blood of Jesus The Lamb that take away the sins of the World
@bro You're taking the misunderstanding of symbolism too far. If you pledged then I blame a lack of searching for information or a poor process. Just apply your logic to other things that exist in the world like marriage or better yet the wedding. If a man proclaims that he will love his wife with ALL his heart while reading his vows, which is a promise of faith in itself, and I used your logic I'd think he would have no room left for God, his friends family and so on. Its flawed logic man.
@raventakayama Logic ...A virgin having a Baby,.....The Blood of that Baby taking away the sins of the world.....Yahshua walkin out of the Grave after 3 days and Nights ....and YHWH manifesting in the Flesh..Immanuel ...my Logic Husband and wives become one Flesh a mystery that is reveal in scripture ....Logic My Logic .......Yahshua the LIGHT of the World Shalom
@bro I know that you're capable of understanding symbolism and inferred meaning. To so selectively use those talents is the problem I see here. Don't turn your mind off to support a cause. Plus there's a fine line between literal biblical events and figurative lessons taught in coded messages. The bible is filled with both as is every aspect of our lives. If you truly believe that people seek Greek membership in order to worship Osiris, Ra, Isis, and Athena I'd have to question your logic again.
@raventakayama " If you truly believe that people seek Greek membership in order to worship Osiris, Ra, Isis, and Athena I'd have to question your logic again." never said anything like this ...i pledged my self the issue is that those who are Born again believers of Yahshua before or after joining will have a conflict with False gods like ra osiris ra isis minerva athena apollo because of Our Faith and Our Scriptures . now lets flip it and say the frats replace the fake gods with YHWH
@brotherp The fact is that the frats never used ANY gods. These organizations are founded on Christian principles same as the US but not Christianity. Members of frats don't have to be Christians just like members of the US. So there's no misleading aspect of frats attempting to put on a Christian face. Next the symbolism of Ra, Osiris, Isis and so on is just that, symbolism. The eye of Ra was all seeing in mythology its reference in frats means knowledge. There's no literal references to idols.
@bro Yes I'm a Christian, I do however study Islam and I've recently picked up the Torah. I study religious pluralism because of religious similarities, but I believe that Christ is our savior, the son of God and that he died for our sins. And I pledged Alpha Phi Alpha. I did my research about the so-called dark side of greeks prior to joining and I came to the conclusion that people are just being nit-picky. Greek rituals are no different from any other oath vow or contract we make in life.
@raventakayama I joined mosque 27 of the NOI .. Torah is Love but i also dabbled with kabballah all before i did a 180 back to Yahshua now back to the sphinxmen ....Pharoah Let My People Go is the same as it was with Moses ......The Sphinx (known in Kemetic as "Heru-em-akhet" or "Horus-is-in-His-horizon) Ezekial 8 men became and are sun worshippers .....great talking to you check out my website exbglounion dot
@bro That's simple and plain symbolism. That's a prime example of how judgement towards Greeks is an overreaction. If I'm to use your thinking and say that any symbolism of those who worshiped idols of the past is also idol worship then I'd also think that anyone who flies the Swastika is an Aryan racist. But that's not true. Natives used the symbol long before the Nazis but you don't see anyone applying the native meaning to the symbol when Nazis use it. This is selective judgement period.
@ravent . Christian Principle Orgs should use Christian Symbolism and if the frat is not Christian ..What is it the NAACP..not lol Ra/Osiris/Horus is your light and that just where the sphinx of gaza is pointing to the east ...Christian Alphas dont want to offend there Islamic jewish satanic and atheist brothers ...Lets replace the pharoah heads with 7 candlet stick Menorahs i am sure your 7 founders would not mine that then lets take the mason grip off the shields ...Clean House or Come Out
@bro Its not a Christian organization. Do you petition to have the state football team replace their mascots with christian symbols? Do you fight for the removal of state and national symbols and for them to be replaced with christian symbols? You're nitpicking and conspiracy slinging. Devotion to Satan and any other outside entity is a conscious choice. What I am hearing here are opinions from someone who is utilizing their own perverse form of Christianity to justify an uninformed judgement.
@raventakayama You said "These organizations are founded on Christian principles" that would make it a christian principle org ....I know they are not christian orgs lol... now lets deal with Perverse form of Christianity ......what is my form of Christianity? and what is your form ? you can go through my videos and find my faith .....i went through your videos and found my former life in the world ......In order to see the Kingdom of YHWH you must be Born Again ......
@bro You went through my videos and found primarily entertainment. You're fooling yourself if you truly believe that you don't have non-Christian related aspects of your life. This isn't black and white. Its not a spectrum of extremes whether its a thing of God or a thing of sin. All things of the world are not sinful. If I want to play super mario bros is that a sin? It certainly isn't of God or a representation there of. To apply man's opinion to religion is perversion we are all guilty of.
@raventakayama " To apply man's opinion to religion is perversion we are all guilty of." religion is mans opinion Yahshua would like a personal relationship with me and you and that is an inside job .i just pray that you dont think i am mad at you or anything ..I just want to share my testimony of how Yahshua is real......
@raventakayama The Son of Man must be lifted above the heads of men - as Moses lifted up that serpent in the desert - so that any man who believes in him may have eternal life. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that every one who believes in him shall not be lost, but should have eternal life.
You must understand that God has not sent his Son into the world to pass sentence upon it, but to save it - through him. Any man who believes in him is not judged at all. It is the one who will not believe who stands already condemned, because he will not believe in the character of God's only Son. This is the judgment - that light has entered the world and men have preferred darkness to light because their deeds are evil.
@bro That's all interesting brother and nothing I haven't read or heard before. It still doesn't address the issue at hand and that issue, which is raised by people on your side of this debate, is the position of Greek organizations in religion as well as their so-called ties with idols. Fact of the matter is that if we must confess that Christ is the son of God through devotion to reach a promise land then how is it possible to worship satanic entities without confession or devotion to them.
@raventakayama I am Me and can only answer for me Brother P..... I am not on anybody side except Yahshua/Jesus .....No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other .... Matthews 6
@brotherp You are 100% correct. No man can serve two masters. However, if only one master exists in a man's life then there is no other option. A brother of A Phi A or Omega Psi Phi or Phi Beta Sigma and so on doesn't have a second master. The notion that these organizations are indeed the second master is strictly opinionated and it can only be applied on a person to person basis. Those who allow Greek life to consume them are questionable, but that's any lifestyle this world has to offer.
@raventakayama You may have more than one master and this will result in a state of doublemindedness like having a wife and a mistress....It can be done but it is not wise ......Behold a p a the light of the world ..only if those ethiopians are Born Again followers of Yahshua and then they willl be able to preach and serve all mankind.....Yahshua is The Light of the World and You can Be Too ....
@bro To claim that service is exclusive to Christian followers is short of Christ's vision. You're still not addressing whether or not being in a Greek letter organization makes you an automatic inadvertent partitioner of service to 2 masters. To make such broad statements, and never directly apply them by saying that Greek life = serving two masters makes it seem as if you don't want to openly make that comment, but you want it to be implied. What do you truly believe in reference to Greeks?
@raventakayama Pages 4-5 of the ritual book describe the initiation process
which includes blindfolding the candidate while he kneels and eats the food prepared by
the godS for Alpha Phi Alpha men (usually raw noodles). Later, while in front of the
altar “(A)ll members shall say BEHOLD, BEHOLD as the candidates’ blindfold is withdrawn and he sees ALPHA PHI ALPHA THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD in large letters over the ALTAR”. sphinxmen pharoahs.. idols and worshipeers of false idol gods or YHWH
@bro Being blindfolded also has a figurative meaning that is not common knowledge nor is it written for the public. Why do you think there's a distinction between those who are "paper" and those who are "real"? People who have actually pledged possess a greater understanding of these symbols. I could ask most alphas about the light and they'd know it, paper or not. But if I asked them about the original shield, or the original animal symbol and its significance most paper bruhs wouldn't know.
I find it interesting how you reject African/Kemetian traditions (Even going so far as calling it mumbo jumbo) yet willingly accept the religion forced upon your people and edited every step of the way as we woke up to the fact that it wasn't ours. Fear is a great herding tool
7thSwell 1 month ago
@7thSwell "I dig your afrikan/kemetian mumbo jumbo ritualistic gumbo
I must stay humble never rumble as your tower of babel crumbles" this statement is made about the secret origin of Black Greek Fraternity traditions and rituals ..this is the translation of that ryhme ( I understand your sideways talk about the origins of secret society rituals and i will stay cool as what is false is exposed ) Religion is forced upon all but the faith in Yahshua is spiritual you must be Born Again.....
brotherp 1 month ago
Some people false idols include the following: self, house, job, car, career, self image, sex, ambition.......and they eat and drink lustily of these each and every day.......God is my Lord & Creator---Alpha is the fraternity where I use my God-given gifts to be of service to my fellow man through a national organization.....so if you have a distorted view about being a "Greek" then that's on you.....however I refuse to allow my mind be in a prison that I didnt build.....good try!
ChrisAmericaUSA 1 month ago
the sphinx is what it is facing the east Jesus is the Light of the World Apa maybe the light of this world but that is not a place for those who are walking in the Light of Jesus ..or you could just ignore these things and pretend the rituals do not exist ..Shalom
brotherp 1 month ago
Paper is Real in fact they are in agreement with their orgs .... So called real members are the reason why hazing is so hard to stop.....Made members are like abused children ..They in turn become the abusers ......Born Again Christian have to do major comprimising to gain respect in the shady underground world of black american gangster secret societies ,,,Sad
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro There's not enough room here I'll send you a message.
raventakayama 3 months ago
just added the lyrics to the note section
brotherp 3 months ago
Anybody who does wrong hates the light and keeps away from it, for fear his deeds may be exposed. But anybody who is living by the truth will come to the light to make it plain that all he has done has been done through God."
brotherp 3 months ago
Punk! If you didn't appreciate being an Omega Man and a Master of the Craft, why in the Hell did you cross the Sand and rode the Goat. Keep your demonic views to yourself
NastyDog15 3 months ago
@NastyDog15 whats up nasty dog ...I use to be a nast dog I am now I am a follower of Yahshua a Born Again Christian Man sharing Christian ManHood with the lost and my brothers who walk in darkness ...Goat Riders need Jesus ..The Blood of Jesus The Lamb that take away the sins of the World
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro You're taking the misunderstanding of symbolism too far. If you pledged then I blame a lack of searching for information or a poor process. Just apply your logic to other things that exist in the world like marriage or better yet the wedding. If a man proclaims that he will love his wife with ALL his heart while reading his vows, which is a promise of faith in itself, and I used your logic I'd think he would have no room left for God, his friends family and so on. Its flawed logic man.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama Logic ...A virgin having a Baby,.....The Blood of that Baby taking away the sins of the world.....Yahshua walkin out of the Grave after 3 days and Nights ....and YHWH manifesting in the Flesh..Immanuel ...my Logic Husband and wives become one Flesh a mystery that is reveal in scripture ....Logic My Logic .......Yahshua the LIGHT of the World Shalom
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro I know that you're capable of understanding symbolism and inferred meaning. To so selectively use those talents is the problem I see here. Don't turn your mind off to support a cause. Plus there's a fine line between literal biblical events and figurative lessons taught in coded messages. The bible is filled with both as is every aspect of our lives. If you truly believe that people seek Greek membership in order to worship Osiris, Ra, Isis, and Athena I'd have to question your logic again.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama " If you truly believe that people seek Greek membership in order to worship Osiris, Ra, Isis, and Athena I'd have to question your logic again." never said anything like this ...i pledged my self the issue is that those who are Born again believers of Yahshua before or after joining will have a conflict with False gods like ra osiris ra isis minerva athena apollo because of Our Faith and Our Scriptures . now lets flip it and say the frats replace the fake gods with YHWH
brotherp 3 months ago
@brotherp The fact is that the frats never used ANY gods. These organizations are founded on Christian principles same as the US but not Christianity. Members of frats don't have to be Christians just like members of the US. So there's no misleading aspect of frats attempting to put on a Christian face. Next the symbolism of Ra, Osiris, Isis and so on is just that, symbolism. The eye of Ra was all seeing in mythology its reference in frats means knowledge. There's no literal references to idols.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama Are you a follower of Yahshua aka Jesus My God who manifested in the Flesh ? what frat are you in or wanna be in ?
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro Yes I'm a Christian, I do however study Islam and I've recently picked up the Torah. I study religious pluralism because of religious similarities, but I believe that Christ is our savior, the son of God and that he died for our sins. And I pledged Alpha Phi Alpha. I did my research about the so-called dark side of greeks prior to joining and I came to the conclusion that people are just being nit-picky. Greek rituals are no different from any other oath vow or contract we make in life.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama I joined mosque 27 of the NOI .. Torah is Love but i also dabbled with kabballah all before i did a 180 back to Yahshua now back to the sphinxmen ....Pharoah Let My People Go is the same as it was with Moses ......The Sphinx (known in Kemetic as "Heru-em-akhet" or "Horus-is-in-His-horizon) Ezekial 8 men became and are sun worshippers .....great talking to you check out my website exbglounion dot
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro That's simple and plain symbolism. That's a prime example of how judgement towards Greeks is an overreaction. If I'm to use your thinking and say that any symbolism of those who worshiped idols of the past is also idol worship then I'd also think that anyone who flies the Swastika is an Aryan racist. But that's not true. Natives used the symbol long before the Nazis but you don't see anyone applying the native meaning to the symbol when Nazis use it. This is selective judgement period.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@ravent . Christian Principle Orgs should use Christian Symbolism and if the frat is not Christian ..What is it the NAACP..not lol Ra/Osiris/Horus is your light and that just where the sphinx of gaza is pointing to the east ...Christian Alphas dont want to offend there Islamic jewish satanic and atheist brothers ...Lets replace the pharoah heads with 7 candlet stick Menorahs i am sure your 7 founders would not mine that then lets take the mason grip off the shields ...Clean House or Come Out
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro Its not a Christian organization. Do you petition to have the state football team replace their mascots with christian symbols? Do you fight for the removal of state and national symbols and for them to be replaced with christian symbols? You're nitpicking and conspiracy slinging. Devotion to Satan and any other outside entity is a conscious choice. What I am hearing here are opinions from someone who is utilizing their own perverse form of Christianity to justify an uninformed judgement.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama You said "These organizations are founded on Christian principles" that would make it a christian principle org ....I know they are not christian orgs lol... now lets deal with Perverse form of Christianity ......what is my form of Christianity? and what is your form ? you can go through my videos and find my faith .....i went through your videos and found my former life in the world ......In order to see the Kingdom of YHWH you must be Born Again ......
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro You went through my videos and found primarily entertainment. You're fooling yourself if you truly believe that you don't have non-Christian related aspects of your life. This isn't black and white. Its not a spectrum of extremes whether its a thing of God or a thing of sin. All things of the world are not sinful. If I want to play super mario bros is that a sin? It certainly isn't of God or a representation there of. To apply man's opinion to religion is perversion we are all guilty of.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama " To apply man's opinion to religion is perversion we are all guilty of." religion is mans opinion Yahshua would like a personal relationship with me and you and that is an inside job .i just pray that you dont think i am mad at you or anything ..I just want to share my testimony of how Yahshua is real......
brotherp 3 months ago
@raventakayama The Son of Man must be lifted above the heads of men - as Moses lifted up that serpent in the desert - so that any man who believes in him may have eternal life. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that every one who believes in him shall not be lost, but should have eternal life.
brotherp 3 months ago
You must understand that God has not sent his Son into the world to pass sentence upon it, but to save it - through him. Any man who believes in him is not judged at all. It is the one who will not believe who stands already condemned, because he will not believe in the character of God's only Son. This is the judgment - that light has entered the world and men have preferred darkness to light because their deeds are evil.
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro That's all interesting brother and nothing I haven't read or heard before. It still doesn't address the issue at hand and that issue, which is raised by people on your side of this debate, is the position of Greek organizations in religion as well as their so-called ties with idols. Fact of the matter is that if we must confess that Christ is the son of God through devotion to reach a promise land then how is it possible to worship satanic entities without confession or devotion to them.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama I am Me and can only answer for me Brother P..... I am not on anybody side except Yahshua/Jesus .....No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other .... Matthews 6
brotherp 3 months ago
@brotherp You are 100% correct. No man can serve two masters. However, if only one master exists in a man's life then there is no other option. A brother of A Phi A or Omega Psi Phi or Phi Beta Sigma and so on doesn't have a second master. The notion that these organizations are indeed the second master is strictly opinionated and it can only be applied on a person to person basis. Those who allow Greek life to consume them are questionable, but that's any lifestyle this world has to offer.
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama You may have more than one master and this will result in a state of doublemindedness like having a wife and a mistress....It can be done but it is not wise ......Behold a p a the light of the world ..only if those ethiopians are Born Again followers of Yahshua and then they willl be able to preach and serve all mankind.....Yahshua is The Light of the World and You can Be Too ....
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro To claim that service is exclusive to Christian followers is short of Christ's vision. You're still not addressing whether or not being in a Greek letter organization makes you an automatic inadvertent partitioner of service to 2 masters. To make such broad statements, and never directly apply them by saying that Greek life = serving two masters makes it seem as if you don't want to openly make that comment, but you want it to be implied. What do you truly believe in reference to Greeks?
raventakayama 3 months ago
@raventakayama Pages 4-5 of the ritual book describe the initiation process
which includes blindfolding the candidate while he kneels and eats the food prepared by
the godS for Alpha Phi Alpha men (usually raw noodles). Later, while in front of the
altar “(A)ll members shall say BEHOLD, BEHOLD as the candidates’ blindfold is withdrawn and he sees ALPHA PHI ALPHA THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD in large letters over the ALTAR”. sphinxmen pharoahs.. idols and worshipeers of false idol gods or YHWH
brotherp 3 months ago
@bro Being blindfolded also has a figurative meaning that is not common knowledge nor is it written for the public. Why do you think there's a distinction between those who are "paper" and those who are "real"? People who have actually pledged possess a greater understanding of these symbols. I could ask most alphas about the light and they'd know it, paper or not. But if I asked them about the original shield, or the original animal symbol and its significance most paper bruhs wouldn't know.
raventakayama 3 months ago
Psalm 133
Mrchaos357 6 months ago