RAM - Sa'n pa wè yo (1995)

[nouzimizik]

LE SA PEYI PAT GENYEN KIDNAPE LADAN'L NON O AYITI WAP SOUFRI KONYA MEN YON JOU WAP KANPE ANKO

[yele009]

Quelqu'une pourraient le traduire pour moi en français? Il est haitian ou non?

[tiloulou509]

janm té renmen fanm saa lèm té piti !!! li té trô bèl e li toujou bèl

[Michaelkl98]

@tiloulou509 Se pa manti non pa'm!!!!

[vibesprofesser]

vodou proverbs is the world and the universe's proverbs.. speech is spirit which transcends.

[bernardw8]

I am not from haiti but I love this music...love the rara

[MrAyisyen80]

I like the way they add that RARA group at the end

[cherizaj]

voodoo proverbs is saying something without saying the exact words for it in real creole which is pale an parabol 

[AyanaRakuken]

part 2

.the next song goes. "I'm in the yard, can't you see the friends don't like me, if i go up they say i went down, danm it i'm a grown being not a child who live with any one. oh oh oh, oh oh oh danm it danm it" next song " when i die they gonna talk so much crap about me, mother/ father when i die they are gonna talk lots of crap on me"

ending melody " i drope water, play againdrummslight candle, ask for justice for the ones i don't see (the spirits)

part 1 is below sorry for errro

[momoflash90]

@AyanaRakuken if ur gonna translate a song like this, one with deeper meaning, do it respectfully. "when i die they are gonna talk lots of crap on me" really???

[AyanaRakuken]

at the entry they were invoking a spirit name Ti-jan by he's nick name Zaou.

it goes " Spirit Zaou where are you (bis) in Guinea the pleasure is beautiful.

the next song is entitle to Minis AZaka Mede God or spirit of ahriculture by his nick name Kouzen (cousin) and real name. it goes like: "kouzen my man Azaka mede my man, it looks like i'm finally gonna eat this year you hear!" over and over againdrummslight candle, ask for justice for the ones i don't see (the spirits)

the next part blow

[vibesprofesser]

This thing called you tube is a very good thing in the eyes of the gods... Kouzin Zaka.. Viv.. Ausar...

[lynej90]

muy bonita lunise

[titid]

ayi bobo

[aidnul]

I used to love Ram so much! That girl to the left of the lead singer really knows how to dance.

[ranchoboyeros]

great song and band

[jluma86]

Smh 5000 Haitians were killed during 1991-1995 ... every year its a new thing in Haiti if its not Haitians killing Haitians it some next shit

[jlover1981]

i hope one day haiti will be beautiful again / good songs keep go on guys and i love you all haitian people

[jlover1981]

i love this songs

[sandouable]

all i know is that no one can stop their destiny

[Ms1hiTa]

I USED TO DANCE TO THIS SONG WHEN IWAS 5YEARS OLD

[Isllay]

DAS MY GURL

[Sekuru001]

were can i get tha music on a cd

[Isllay]

she gets lovely voice i dnt care singing and good loocking 2 i understand much on dat song like le'm mouri ala baton yap bam mwen mwen kon tande moune ap disa lap diya i love her real

[Isllay]

she gets lovely voice i dnt care wat she singing and she good locking i love her i understand much le mouri ala baton yap ban wmen

[vibesprofesser]

The Sacraments that is Vodou Music. It is what keeps the Universe in balance... Play on.. Ayibobo !

[labelledou05]

u have a pretty voice ,y don't u sing 4 God?

[nzarikongo]

@labelledou05 Excuse me, but Vodouisants believe in God also. So I don't know what you are speaking of. To whom to do you think she's singing for? A djab?

[pakoulou1]

@nzarikongo i totally agree with you. because some people think voodoo is about the devil which is not true.

[DoloJerkin]

how love there song but dont know what there are saying

[zoerilla33]

I LOVE THIS SONG..

[haitian709]

fanm sa still bel .

[godspicture]

this the shit man i remember dancing that shit in the carnival when i was little and every now and then i crank to that song

[jinior99]

I ram , I'm mistalove, what I'd like to say about this song is so beautiful  . but the girl who sings it has a beautiful voice . I like to listen to her song so much only my problem with her song she never sing one without using word vodoo .

[cherizaj]

i understand what they saying cause thats how i pretty much grew up between voodoo but its like words you cant even explain its like they have their own meaning, i can only say them in creole they have afro-creole meaning, i would translate them but i really cant, its like the words r nonsense in other languages.

[thetetea]

Hi, does anyone know the lyrics of this tune? I love this song and I'd like to study the meaning, but I don't know any creole so it's pretty hard to dictate...

[ambreginny]

you want the translated lyrics?

[thetetea]

If you could, lyrics both in Creole and in English will be great, but only one of them is still helpful. Thank you!

[MegaRicson]

i know creole but i hardly understand what she singing bout this voodoo to explain it you have to at least understand some voodoo i guess

[wechee]

That is very hard to do. Those words do not have one meaning. A word for word translation is not possible. You have to understand what she stands for , what she is singing about. Even if you had the words you would not "get" the meaning. Example "lakou", in english, it means "backyard", in kreyol it can mean community, home, and more :-)

[thetetea]

I see. I want to study but I don't know so much about vodou yet. I love their songs and hope I can understand their message though. Thank you.

[giggilamour]

C'est qui le chanteur? can someone tell me??

[biggtime420]

IL S APPELLE Richard Auguste Morse = RAM

[SuperSandou]

I LOVE THAT SONG AND THE VIDEO TOO

[delancree]

Se le saa kanaval te rele kanaval vre. Ou te met pat nan vodou, fok ou te bat pye ou. Voudou a nan sang nou depi nan ginen, gen nan nou ki foule feeling nan, but li la, and you all know it.

[coolfungus]

One more thing, Haitians who practice voodoo do not think of it as a religion. And, too, one can not look at voodoo trough the western eyes or experience,one would only have a distorted view of it that way. For that fact, most voodoo practitioners usually,if not always,associate themselves with the Christian faith. They've been able to do that not because they are bad Christian or faking it, but because they do not see voodoo as a religion

[ambreginny]

Ultimately, u just need to step back and observe the dynamics. I have no use for religion but i recognize most humans need it. It's the comfort that they're not just tiny specks in a huge universe, the need to follow an invisible hand or that there's someone listening to their whining.

When u start preaching to others to conform to ur way as if ur the one in knowledge of the coveted truth, u come across as no better than these 'religious blowtards'. That's the honey they attract the flies w/.

[coolfungus]

Well said ambreginny, but the role of religion is certainly much bigger than that of our fears, hopes and wishes.I hate to be so obvious but religion is politically driven.Some people like myself and others do not need religion in our life,but the majority of people do.For those people who can't cope without it, religion is definitely a good thing.The Roman empire knew that,and as "mal a droit" as they are,US repuplicans also knows that too....Lol

[Agnosticprick]

Thank you captain obvious...LOL

There have been plenty of historians studying religion. I think we have a pretty good idea about what are some of the shared concepts and about what concepts are unique to particular religions. The library is absolutely full of comparative religious studies.

PS...Voodoo is a religion because it contains dogmas..

KIndly SFTU!

[Agnosticprick]

Darn you, STFU...

Wanker

[coolfungus]

Yes, voodoo is ,indeed, a religion.But the fact remains as such; the overwhelming majority of its(voodoo) practitioners do not think of it as such.If you've taken the time to read some of my previous post,you'd ,perhaps, have a better understanding of voodoo and the role that it plays in modern Haitian life or society.

What you may think is so obvious,might not be so obvious after all. And , can we keep it civil? over-zealous agnosticprick......ha ha

[coolfungus]

You're the kind of people I don't take part with......your class is showing Mr Agnosticprick.

"You are what you are" and Mr Prick, you can't hide it :)

I do not care for your response either,so shut your moronic mouth, Agnosticprick .

Now, I'm done with your uneducated gush.

[coolfungus]

Judging from your response, I think everyone can see who's the idiot in here.The only thing you've managed, so far,is exposing your imbecility to the world.I was under the impression that this was a civil discussion among civilized people, was I in for a surprise. I'm done with your moronic antics,for all I know, you are probably an anti-social psychopath with major issues. And I bet, you can only be a bully behind your computer monitor.

An agnostic is supposed to have an open mind.........

[kleinhurr]

a wonderful voice with a great vibe, what an amazing rhythm and combination

[Agnosticprick]

Most of you on this board are intellectually bankrupt when it comes to the utter tripe we call 'religion'.

That being said,

I suggest you learn about the subject before having a fvcking opinion,

you wankers..

:)

[coolfungus]

Oh no, I'm not trying to be nasty at all, I was just being brief.

note:the voyage was really sponsored by the queen(Isabella),not her husband(Ferdinand II).

[supaslam]

lol

[coolfungus]

Sophia, ti pitit tande bien; the connection that exist between voodoo and catholicism goes back to the time of slavery,not that slavery doesn't exist anymore, but that's an entirely different subject. anyway,as a cover to protect themselves from punishment ,slaves(your ancestors and mine) would replace names and symbols of voodoo deities to catholics ones so that they could fool the masters and the missionaries.A voodoo shrine,in that way,would look more like a catholic one.

[pinkpuma1213]

but why catholicism? since haiti was a french colony, why wasn't it protestantism?

[coolfungus]

the protestant and reformation movement started in the 16th century,you do the math.

[pinkpuma1213]

o true, well no need to be nasty about it! It's not that obvious of a fact, Espanola was 'found' by Colon in 1492, so that's pretty damn close in the time frame. My mistake was forgetting that he was sailing for the catholic kings.

[geordany11]

its both i mean theres major religion in haiti its cathocism, protestanism and voodooo

[kwaiyimey]

se vodou an ki mete nou nan etat nou ye jodia-a

[yfleurant]

first of all to each his own!!! and religion has nothing to do with it. Tell the damn government to do their job!! how about that one?

[PatriciaCamilien]

Stupid is as stupid does.

[doughertycharlestv]

@kwaiyimey This is true!

[lilnikk2004]

she's singing in vodoo proverbs!!!! hello people where all the real vodoo people yall don't even know that come on!!!!

[ambreginny]

vodou proverbs? What the h is that?

[lilnikk2004]

well sweety alot of those voodoo songs sing in african dialects. the words you don't understand usually are from our african language that our slave encesters used to speak, used it in their songs and in voodoo ceremonies. They past it down from generation to generations.

[hisboo911]

:31-:55 what is she saying? can you/someone put the lyrics of that part in kreyol and maybe translate in english? thanks so much.

[ambreginny]

ha ha. a lot of times, i can't figure out what she's saying or they don't make sense.

this is what i make out:

Kouzen oh neg mwe

Azaka mete yo, neg mwe

Gade on ane m'ap resi manje tande

lanne isi, m' pral resi manje tande

Azaka mete yo, neg mwe

(Azaka is the loa of agriculture and patron of farmers. A good-natured spirit, he is affectionately called "Cousin" or "Papa". Seems like she's saying thanks for a good harvest. :D )

[real3rdlife]

azaka mede oh neg mwe

gade yon ane  map resi manje...

[sexxi1122]

For someone who doesn't practice voodoo u sure know a lot about it. R u an open catholic too?

[sexyfancy]

you dont need to practice a religion to be knowledgeable about it........

[Agnosticprick]

I concur heartily with your words...

[hisboo911]

at :57 the way she dances reminds me of Patra! i like her.

[lovecarlaa18]

I love ram

[kmokedoyo]

is so nice i use to dance all the diferents tradicional haitian and i us to listen ram music

[princessishere4ever]

i love this song

[vibesprofesser]

Ayibobo RAM ! Ayibobo ! Merci..

[Pcelse]

Does anybody know if that RAM song that says "fè yon vèvè pou mwen" is on youtube? If so, what's the link? Thanks

[ambreginny]

why the same comment on 3 of my vids? :S The song is called "Damballa" and no, it hasn't been uploaded.

[Pcelse]

Sorry about that beautiful. It just that I like that song so damn much lol

[sexxi1122]

This comment is for ambreginny. U seem to know so much about the voodoo world. Do u practice voodoo? I mean i love RAM as much as the next person but I dont understand the meaning behind most of the things they say. I just enjoy the style of racine they play. For example what does Lunise mean by "Lem' mouri ala baton y'ap ban mwen." Is someone going to kill someone else and beat them while their dead? Doesnt really make any sense. Please enlighten me.

[ambreginny]

No, i don't practice vodou. came to learning about it as my studies to better understand the Haitian culture and people drew me into it. "Le'm mouri ala baton y'ap ban mwen" is a political thing. the group was very persecuted under Cedras; threats of kidnapping and on their lives made. Lunise is being defiant saying that they won't touch a hair on her as long as she's alive. So it's only when she's dead that they'll satisfy themselves by beating her corpse. otherwise, nothing they can do to her.

[damebochie]

Thank you so much ambreginny this is one of the best song of RAM and I like it a lot.Bring back so many memories.

Thanks again

[Hatiangoddess86]

I just came from visiting Haiti and nothing happened to me.One of my friends got kidnapped there,but she is very boogie.She went over there and acted as if she is better than everyone else.I will suggest to anyone to go to Haiti especially if its your home,be careful of your surroundings and the people that are around you.Was out all diffrent hours of the night.Last time I went I went for 3 months over there and prior to that I went in November and spent a month and about to go back next month.

[Ebenita]

Love it I do.. I love Racine.. my dad only listens to that.. half my family is catholic, and the other half very deep "ougan" but raised both really. :P I love it!

[fanmvanyan77]

AYIBOBO!!!!

[stemondLwa]

wow Maybe I should consider going to back to haiti one more time just to see RAM. Beside seeing it during Kanaval 1995 that was it, although RAM is my most favorite racine group. I remember growing up in Haiti (all family members are catholic) so i had to be too. And yet I always felt the desire to be a racine. Marassa by Ram got me hooked. My favorite lyric is when she said (an jeter dlo pou sa'n pa we yo, an lumen baleine pou san pa we yo.) I used to piss off my family when i sing that lol

[coolfungus]

In Haiti the Catholics,unlike the protestants, have a very liberal attitude toward voodoo. In my case, we were openly Catholics but my dad was an "ougan". After my first communion I went strait from the church to my father's "Perestyl" where we celebrated and partied. And all of us also attended prestigious Catholic schools. But as for the protestants, they were total hypocrites. I doubt it if things are much different now when it comes to religion in Haiti

[sophiaclerius]

if i was you i would be ashamed of my self, to say after my communion i went to a perestyl to celebrate......wow! iam catholic...i am not perfect but God is a good God, i wouldnt dare disrespect my self like that...most importantly him......

[4honeywell505]

There is no place that is safe in our world of today, If you are shoot by street gang, you are killed by the police or some rouge government makes you disappear.

[weefout]

Haiti was still a much safer place 16 years ago. I remember going to see RAM play in 1992 (under Cedras) at the Oloffson. After we walked around the neighborhood without a care in the world. Today we would be kidnapped, robbed or killed.

[ietHOTTIE]

Not true!

and it's a lie that those on the outside have to stop perpetuating. i live in haiti, and a bunch of us regularly go to the oloffson to see RAM and hang around. We have yet to be all these things.

And of course for you who were visiting, it was safe. You didn't endure the censorship, the arrests, the embargo as us who were living there. Are you also forgetting that most of the murders (disappearances) were government-sanctioned and therefore went unreported?

[ietHOTTIE]

More than 4000 Haitians killed during the three years Cedras was in power. All by the government, that is excluding personal homicides.

Is that what you would callously call safe for the then residents and citizens of Haiti?

[ambreginny]

Thx for comment, ietHottie.

I lived under Cedras, one of the most hated man in our history. the US, instead of paying him to get out in addition to safeguarding his precious stolen millions, should have gone back on their deal and delivered him straight to the population. i'd like to see what he'd have done w/out his thug police.

send merloulou my love. salut à ricardo, leo et analissa. c u guys again in december. peut etre on rendra tous une ptit visite a oloffson. ce serait bien chouette.

[fransou19]

Aristid is the must hated my dear look how beautiful he left us.

[weefout]

Don't get me wrong..I know people died in the early 90's during the military but at least you know where the bullets were coming from. Now they come from all directions and you can't call anyone if you have a problem. How much security do you have?, ever drive alone? How many people you know have been killed or kidnapped? How about that traffic on Delmas or everywhere? During Cedras we walked downtown at 11 PM ...Can you do that now? If this is Democracy..give me my Dictatorship.

[rachellesi]

i am haitian and live abroad.. i dont second that

[ietHOTTIE]

My favorite line:

Lè'm mouri ala baton y'ap ban mwen (When I die, how bad they will beat me).

Thx Lunise for establishing in a not so subtle way how untouchable u are. such courage. not all of us could say we were untouchable.

my uncle, an old officer, too disappeared. Cedras is living a cushy surf and sand life in Panama with the help of the US, while my family is still roaming the country for something to bury. All we can do is light a candle for those we don't see.

Ayibobo!

[ietHOTTIE]

One of my favorites...

RAM keep on keeping on.

[BaboonBro]

Yeah, sure revitalizin'..

[1mccrae]

Thanks Yo I neede that for my spirits ma

Stay Encouraged, Peace(2 Fingers)