Bruckner 6 - 4 Celibidache - Part 2

[kayatanful]

This is the reference interpretation of the most interesting symphonie of Bruckner.

You here every instrument you should here. Today there is only Skrowacewsky

doing it almost that way.

[benbisley]

A unique and very thoughtful interpretation. Thank you.

[belianis]

What a mix of grandeur and sorrow there is in the climax!

[LottoTottoKind]

4:32 !!!!!!

[jg3sakamoto]

My most beloved music in this world. Thank you for up-loading.

[ffmandal]

Piston trumpets in Germany? No rotary trumpets?

[blechmusik]

@ffmandal: The rotary trumpets were stolen the day before. Just kidding ;-)

But as far as I know they switched to rotary trumpets again (Thein and Schagerl)

Greetings

[tshanehorn]

Go Herr Professor Gaag!!!!!!

[Leubald]

Well, I'd rather say it's nearly too fast...

[bruckner26]

Wow! It's gotta be the first time I hear someone saying one of Celi's tempos is too fast! But one must be in the hall at the very time this was played to appreciate the choice of tempo, I have no doubt it was perfect.

[iyadkanaan]

i agree podiumman2 somwhat slow, specially on 4:00 passage which could have been more incalzando.

[Camanesco]

Celibidache's Bruckner is quite different from main-stream, yet has never been my favourite. Now, any of you think this is slow? You should listen to his reading of the Te Deum!

[ekerilaz]

As a Bruckner obsessive who's hearing so much about 'Celi' I'm very interested in hearing what all the fuss is about. I'm completely open but still not quite getting it. This is good but not as revelatory as I'd been lead to expect.

[MahlerTitan]

well, you need to hear his 4th and 8th with MPO, i think you can buy those from Amazon.

[ekerilaz]

I've been looking into it for a few months. Trouble is, I'm rather poor these days, and apart from the problem of *which versions/recordings* by Celi of Bruckner to buy,if it's true they're vastly expansive, it's also true they're all vastly expensive!!

[ekerilaz]

As a general point I do find there's a frustrating inverse ratio between the music I love most and the frequency performances get it right for me.I can never find quite the 'perfect' interpretations of Wagner, Sibelius, and Bruckner. Zen Celi would no doubt have scolded me for this idea (of a 'perfect' version) and of course I concede he has a point: I don't agree with Glenn Gould here!

[MahlerTitan]

well, that's because there is no such thing as "perfect" version, you might want to stop that futile search right now. Each interpretation is unique in it's own way, and while some are more interesting than others, it's by no means "perfect", or the "best".

[ekerilaz]

I agree with you, of course; I meant 'perfect for me', like, say, Karajan in RStrauss or 'Verklarte Nacht'.

[ekerilaz]

I've no problem with slow tempi as such, but I think at this speed there are a few longeurs here where momentum and cohesion flag (or sag).I'm also finding that the tempi seem to me to draw self-exhibiting, obtrusive attention to themselves.

[ekerilaz]

I'm apparently guilty myself here of this 'slow/fast'notion of tempo but it's not speed, if you like, quantity, of tempo that matters: it's quality of tempo.

[MahlerTitan]

I find the tempo just right, I feel there is no need to rush this movement. As for most Bruckner's symphony finales, the ending is absolutely spectacular, it's no exception here.

[podiumman2]

Somewhat slow!

[g1e2c3k4o]

bravo!