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  • Religions makes people to believed that heaven and hell does exist. That is why religious leaders and fanatics use it as a weapon to manipulate weak people in order to earn big money and to control peoples mind. BEWARE of this people,,you might be the next victim.

  • @55oiram

    "Religions makes people to believed that heaven and hell does exist."

    "Makes" people believe? As in, 'either you will believe or I will shoot you with this gun' make? I suspect that you may have meant to say "persuades people to believe".

    Anyway, your generalization is faulty; some religious leaders teach that there is no hell. And some religious leaders teach that there is no heaven.

    However, it is a known fact that everybody will die someday. So, where are you going when you die?

  • @InternetDisciple All we are is dust in the wind....stop being so naiv,,,get a life and you may use you gun in your stupid head.

  • @55oiram

    You seem to be carrying around a lot of hate. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. At the very least, I'm a good listener. I'll be glad to read whatever you want to post here.

  • @InternetDisciple OK,,,religous people are using and threatening the innocent people to believed on what their believed,,or else...They are using the namne of God to earn money and live luxurious life. In one thousand christian religious leaders,,how many percent of them having financial problems? It seems to me that you are blidned by your own belief,,it's ok as long as you don't commercialize it and using it as a weapon. By the way,,is it good to travel around the world with free tickets?

  • @55oiram

    "religous people are using and threatening the innocent people to believe on what their believed,,or else"

    Some religious people do, I am sure. But not all. Some, like many in my Church, warn people of the judgment to come because we believe that these people are in danger if they don't repent.

    Do you believe in justice? Do you believe that you will get away with any thefts or lies that you may have committed? Because I believe in justice, I warn people about the danger of sin and death

  • @InternetDisciple YEAH,,I BELIEVED IN JUSTICE SO LOOK AT YOURSELF PROPERLY AND COMPARE TO OTHER PEOPLE,,,MAYBE IT IS YOU WHO WILL BE PUT IN JUSTICE. PEOPLE WHO ARE USING WEAK PEOPLE TO LIVE IN COMFORTABLY LIFE WILL BE PUT IN JUSTICE,,YOU KNOW IT AND YOU KNOW THAT YOUR LIFE IS NOT SO FAR FROM IT. GOD BLESS YOU!

  • @55oiram

    "...SO LOOK AT YOURSELF PROPERLY AND COMPARE TO OTHER PEOPLE"

    It doesn't work that way in a court of law. Telling the judge that I feel that compare to other people won't sway a just judge. The judge should rightly respond that he is not here to talk about what I got right, he is here to judge the things that I got wrong.

    So have you told any lies, or stole anything, regardless of value? Ever look with illicit lust at another person? Do you think that you'll get away with those crimes?

  • @InternetDisciple Lies,,do you think not you're innocent?

  • @55oiram

    "Lies,,"

    Are you admitting to telling lies? If so, then do you think that you'll get away with your crimes?

    Don't you believe in justice? If so, then you must know that you will answer for the bad things that you done in your life. Ever smarted off to your parents? Dishonoring one's parents is a crime against the Lord God. What will you do on judgment day? You must know that you, like everyone, will die one day.

  • @InternetDisciple Are you talking about yourself or just a simple surrender to all bad things you have done? Think about it before you spread LIES to all innocent people around the world.

  • @55oiram

    I've been asking you about your sins.

    Again, don't you believe in justice? Do you think that you will get away with your crimes?

    The Lord Jesus can help you. There is no one else that can help you. You know that you will die one day. What will you do on that day?

    Judgment day is coming. Nobody knows for sure when they will die.

  • @InternetDisciple Keep your nonsense belief for yourself,,,you can't even prove it. We are all gonna die and you religous fanatics will be thrown in hell because you believed in it.

  • @InternetDisciple I belived in justice and you and your religious leaders will be prosecute soon,,,,just wait and see.

  • The persecution of Christians is going on now.

    But, I'm sure that you mean that it will soon be illegal to practice Biblical Christianity. And I agree with you.

    That's nothing new. If and when that happens, Christians will do what we've always done: We will be murdered and imprisoned for being Christians.

    We warn people about the danger because we care about them. Just as I tell you about the danger you are in because I care about you.

    Real Christians are willing to die to help people.

  • @InternetDisciple Real christians are willing to die to help,,BULLSHIT! You will be murdered and imprisoned,,,,christians are the worst religion of all religion and they kill to protect their interest,,,just like you White Americans assholes.

  • @55oiram

    Your first sentence says that Christians would not be willing to die. But then you second sentence says that Christians will be murdered for being Christians.

    "...christians are the worst religion of all religion and they kill to protect their interests..."

    If that is true, then please name the current Christian version of Osama Bin Laden.

  • @55oiram

    "...just like you White American ********."

    That seems like a very racist thing to say, my friend.

    The Lord Jesus can give you peace from that hate that you are holding in your heart. You may have even been hurt by someone that calls himself a Christian. Don't let that supposed Christian stop you from finding out who Christ really is.

    The Lord Jesus is so kind. He saved a person as filthy and low as me. That is how I know that He can save anyone.

  • @InternetDisciple Hate,,,,don't use to me that sweet manipulating words of yours,,i know what's in your mind. I don't believed in bible my friend,,just a simple instrument to control peoples mind and manipulating them for the sake of power and money.

  • @55oiram

    A lot of people don't believe in the Bible. But don't let that blind you from justice. If you believe in justice, then you must know that you will be called to account for any misdeeds.

    Have you ever disobeyed your parents? How many illicit lies have you told. Ever call people bad names when you shouldn't?

    I think that you do believe in justice. Don't wait until you die before you confess your crimes before the Lord God. I care about what happens to you.

  • @InternetDisciple Justice is for people like you who use the name of God to manipulate innocent people,,,your time will come and you can start begging your Lord for forgiveness for all the sweet talking. May your God bless you my friend!

  • @55oiram

    "Justice is for people like you how use the name..."

    I already have the Advocate who will speak for me on judgment day. And He will never lose a case.

    But I want it to go well for you, too, on judgment day, my friend. I still believe that you believe in justice. The Lord Jesus is so kind that He died for His enemies. But, because He is a gentleman, He won't force Himself on anyone.

    Most people will choose to go to hell. You don't have to be one of them.

  • @InternetDisciple I think you don't understand the meaning of every words i've written,,you are still in your fantasy. Judgement day and hell are for someone who believed in it. Your sweet words are the one will be judge,,just wait and see.

  • @55oiram

    "Judgement day and hell are for someone who believed in it."

    That very faulty logic.

    Just because the criminal doesn't believe in electric chairs, that doesn't mean that he won't fry when he is sentenced to the electric chair for his crimes.

    Belief or disbelief won't change one's eternity if it is true.

    I am talking to you because I don't want you to fry in hell. I care about what happens to you. I still believe that you believe in justice.

  • @InternetDisciple Fry in hell,,nobody in this world who can prove that there is hell or heaven,stop spreading lies in youtube. Your fantasy is your weapon to earn money and to suck innocent poor people. If there is really hell,,,,you will be the first to be fried. It's easy to say the words "care" do you think that your God is stupid enough not knowing that your sweet words is your profession? It's not tooo late to change,be a good man and if you're really believed in God,,,,stop spreading lies!

  • @55oiram

    "...nobody in this world who can prove that there is hell or heaven,"

    Despite this statement, I still believe that you believe in justice. I've never asked you for money. I don't want anything from you. I want to help you if I can.

    My friend, judgment day is coming if you believe it or not. Disbelief in the electric chair won't make it go away.

    What about the times that you may have lied? Has your parents ever had to tell you to do something twice? Is your thought life pure?

  • @55oiram

    My friend, I haven't heard from you in a while. I hope that you are doing well.

    If I can help you somehow, please tell me.

  • @InternetDisciple Yes,,please help to clear the of my friend in youtube,,he is so stubborn not to accept reality and still using his sweet words to manipulate people,,help me please.

  • @55oiram

    Well, if I can help you, let me know.

    And I still believe that you believe in justice. Everyone will die one day, my friend. Judgment is coming. Call on the Lord Jesus before that day, or you know where you will go.

  • @InternetDisciple I know you can help me,,,look at yourself in the mirror and see if you can help that man in the mirror with his manipilative character that God cannot accept. Help that man to clean his concience before the judgment come to his life. Please tell him to purify his heart and soul and never manipulate other innocent people no more.

  • @55oiram

    "Please tell him to purify his heart..."

    There is no way for a man to purify himself. There is no way for a liar to make himself a non-liar after telling a illicit lie. There is no way for a murderer to make himself a non-murderer after he has already committed murder.

    Only the Lord Jesus can wash away someone sins.

    After paying the fine, the judge could allow the criminal to go free. The Cross was that payment. I did the crime, the Lord Jesus paid my fine.

    He is so kind.

  • @InternetDisciple Jesus don't pay a fine to a criminal,,think about that!

  • @55oiram

    The wages of sin is death. For my crimes, I owed a life. A life was owed, and a life was paid.

    The Lord Jesus paid my fine on the Cross. I can't die for your crimes, because I had my own sins. And you can't pay for my sins, because you have your own crimes.

    But the Lord Jesus never did anything wrong. He could die in another's place. And, since He is God, His death could pay for anyone's and everyone's crimes.

    Because He is kind, He offers His payment even to His enemies.

  • @InternetDisciple Jesus is not God,,you are out of your mind. Your sweet talking will kick you back sometime and God knows who's telling the truth. You can't lie for other peoples crime because you are already loaded,,keep on my dear friend,it's your profession.

  • @55oiram

    If, as you say, that the Lord Jesus could not have paid the fine for sins, then there is no hope.

    There is no way for a murderer to make himself into a non-murderer. There is no way for a liar to make himself into a non-liar.

    But the Lord Jesus, because of His kind payment on the Cross, can wash away the crimes of anyone that comes to Him for forgiveness. But the Lord Jesus is a gentleman; He will not force Himself on anyone.

  • @InternetDisciple AHA,,that is why you are still spreading lies to internet and then beg for forgiveness,hmmmm,,you are a wise guy. Jesus is not GOD,,Jesus is an ordinary Jew just like other zionist in Israel. Don't give me that sweet crap talking of yours,,,you will end up in your own fantasy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,HE­LL.

  • @55oiram

    Hebrews 9:27

    "And as it is appointed once for a man to die, but after this the judgement:"

    I still believe that you believe in justice, my friend. Where will you go after you die? Don't forget about justice and the judgment.

    I am talking with you because I care about what happens to you.

  • @InternetDisciple I will go back to mother nature my friend,,how about you who believed in hell? I am talking about you because I care about what happens to you,,think about that!

  • @55oiram

    Hebrews 9;27

    "And as it is appointed once for a man to die, but after this the judgment."

    Whatever you face after you die, I still believe that you believe in justice. Do you think that you will get away with your crimes? Ever told any illicit lies? Have your parents ever had to tell you twice to do something? Imperfect things are thrown into the lake of fire. Perfect things are allowed into heaven.

    Were are you going when you die, my friend? Justice and the judgment is coming.

  • @InternetDisciple Justice and judgement,,,your the first one to be in your God court,,no doubt abou it. Your God knows who you are and maybe he has a great place for you in what you called hell. Your hebrews 9;27 is only for you and your sect,,your God knows that. Start your final fake prayer to your God,,you cannot fool your God. There a place in what you called hell for all people like you who spreading lies and using the name of God for their own interess,money and power. BEWARE!

  • @55oiram

    You speak as if you don't believe in justice. But I still believe that you believe in justice. You must know that you will be brought to justice for any illicit lies that you may have told. You must know that justice will be brought to those that have disobeyed their parents. Thieves, too, will see justice.

    Everyone dies at some point. Where will you go, my friend?

  • @InternetDisciple Justice are for those who spreading lies and i know you believed in justice. You must know that you will be brought to justice for using the name of JESUS and GOD just to live your luxurious life. Don't you know that JESUS was poor? Arent you ashamed of yourself? Are you not afraid of justice? Hell is waiting for those who manipulating innocent people, BEWARE!

  • @55oiram

    "And as it appointed once for a man to die, but after this the judgment."

    Some people look through the window of a computer monitor into other people's bedrooms. They used to call these perverts: peeping toms. Now they are called: pornographers. Such criminals will be brought to justice. Illicit lies and thefts will also see justice.

    I still believe that you believe in justice.

  • @InternetDisciple Is this a confession my friend? Pray now to your God before its too late!

  • @55oiram

    My crimes are covered by the Blood of the Lord Jesus, my friend. Only the Lord Jesus can save you from the judgment, my friend.

    How many illicit lies have you told? Ever stole anything? Have you ever disobeyed your parents? Such crimes will be brought to justice.

    I still believe that you believe in justice. Where will you go when you die, my friend?

  • @InternetDisciple Crime is always a crime my dear friend,,you've just said the right words that fits on you.

  • @55oiram

    "you've just said the right words that fits on you."

    I notice that you can't seem to talk about the things that you've done wrong. I, myself, have broken all the commandments in thought if not in deed.

    What about you? I still suspect that you believe in justice. Where will you go when you die?

  • @InternetDisciple I already aswered you before,,mother nature will eat me when i die my dear friend,is it hard to understand? Why you religious fanatics believed that you will be save by praying and hiding yourself from reality? Don't you know that most of the powerful leaders in the world are religious fanatics like you? Tell me why. How about Jesus,,was he a rich man like all religious leaders? Did he have a multi million dollars church? Does he collect money from the poor people? Wake up!

  • @55oiram

    "...mother nature will eat me when i die my dear friend,"

    You are telling me that you don't believe in justice for your deeds. However, I still believe that you believe in justice despite what you say here. If death is the end, then your deeds will never be addressed.

    "How about Jesus, was he a rich man..."

    The Lord Jesus asked for someone to show him a penny (Mark 12:15). Now that is really not having some cash. I know of no verse where He asked someone to give Him money.

  • @InternetDisciple Don't you have any self respect that you need to defend on every bible words?I feel pity for you,you're hiding your true identity by twisting every words you say just to show the whole Youtube that you're a truly a believer. How can you prove to me that your deeds will be address by twisting words and use the bible to scape from reality?My dear friend,save your saliva and don't hide behind religion. I know you are a master of words but you cannot scape from the power of nature.

  • @55oiram

    "...but you cannot scape from the power of nature."

    Are not you the one arguing that death is the end? If death is the end, then your deeds will not see justice. However, I still believe that you believe in justice.

    The Lord God has made a way for your crimes to be fairly paid so that you don't have to go to the lake of fire. Have you told illicit lies? Have you ever disobeyed your parents? Ever stole anything?

    Judgment day is coming, my friend. Justice will be served.

  • WHY IS IT THAT THE FILIPINO PEOPLE HAVE THE TIME AND MONEY TO BUILD A SUPER MODERN MULTI MILLION DOLLARS CHURCH?? BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUILD AND FIX THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS LIKE POVERTY,ROADS,HOSPITALS SCHOOLS,,,HMMMM NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE.

  • @55oiram

    Are you asking me to speak for what people do in the Philippines?

    Did you mean to post that on this video? This video is a debate about eternal security.

    If you have an honest and direct question about Christianity then I would be happy to answer if I can.

  • @InternetDisciple YEs i am asking you,,why? Because religion is one of the big impact to a society. So before you spread your wrong belief of God to the world just think deeply to your religion,,think if God does not work that way. I know you have a good intention but your christian belief is one of the factor that made the filipinos became a fanatic idiots. First of all religon must not commercialized by some capitalist who make their luxurious living by using the name of God..GOD BLESS YOU !

  • @55oiram

    "YEs i am asking you..why?"

    I would not presume to know their reasons for building a Church.

    "Because religion is one of the big impact to a society."

    A lot of things impact society. I intend to help Christianity impact the world even more.

    "So before you spread your wrong belief of God..."

    To what supposed wrong belief are you referring?

  • @55oiram Where did you find super modern multi million dollars church in the Philippines? you're talking craps out of an empty mind. Why do you care for the poverty of Filipinos when you don't mind of the immorality of your own race?

    Why it seems that you care when you don't?

    You sounds more idiotic than Filipinos. Mind your own race.

    Is your race perfect? Does your country not corrupt? Are you perfect?

    Are you holy?

    Whatever you say doesn't make you superior than the others.

  • @TheologianZ Aha ,,,you don't even have a Filipino blood so don't teach me about my race and you came in my to country to manipulate all poor people so that so live in a luxurious life. Why don't you mind your own race huh??? FUCK OFF !!!

  • @55oiram You know nothing but stupidity and suicide. You blame others but you don't blame yourself. Pointing fingers on somebody doesn't make you wiser than anybody. All you need is a little wisdom and a little understanding for you to learn more about life.

    If faith in God is useless, science is also useless. There will be no science if there is no creation. God creates, man discovers. God invents, man modifies.

    If God is nonsense, you are nonsense, nothing but a dust in the wind.

  • @55oiram Even though you belong to a rich country, where milk, food and drink is abundant, even though you belong to a society which is advance and has high technology. Though you lived in a house that reaches to the skies...

    There is one truth that will not fade.

    You will also die. Your body will be rotten like the others..

    Your fame will be forgotten, your riches spent by others. you will not be able to bring them to your grave.

    Even I, a Filipino, poor and lowly,

    you cannot defeat me.

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  • He got saved, because he was afraid of hell, But what gospel did he Obey? How did he Obey it? Was he saved before or after he obeyed the gospel? the baptist don't answer these questions.

  • "But what gospel did he Obey?"

    There is only the Gospel of the Lord Jesus. All others are false gospels.

    "How did he Obey it?"

    By getting saved, as the Gospel commands.

    "Was he saved before or after he obeyed the gospel?"

    He didn't get saved before he got saved. And he didn't get saved after he got saved.

  • @333trailmix We are not to judge when he was saved because we don't know when someone is saved the wind blows where it wishes read "all of" John 3 not just verse 5 CoC's. We all are to fear God by the way......

  • and you watched this video why...? and left a comment...?

  • This is like debating Flying Spaghetti Monster vs. Invisible Pink Unicorn.

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