@deltaalphacharlie JESUS CHRIST HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE BILL OF RIGHS?! IT'S THE FIRST FUCKIN ADMENDMENT, THE FIRST ONE. THE FIRST LINE OF THE FIRST ONE. MAYBE IT'S IMPORTANT?!
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
that's a blatant lie. no where in the constitution does it say separation between church and state. the term was coined by t. Jefferson in December of 1802 to appease baptists WHO WERE AFRAID OF A DENOMINATIONAL doctrine as the state observance not Christianity as a whole. Christianity because that was the faith. not trying to bias here.
@deltaalphacharlie Read it again.Thats No religons or religious views from christianity to atheism, the government wipes its hands clean of the entire question of god.You can practice, but the government may not favour one over the many hundreds of thousands of faiths in the world.By allowing other religons to be free to pray then they are going against the first 4 commandments so no christianity islam or atheism will never be approved by the state.
@dieghettozz Hey, don't hate! Not collecting stamps is my favourite hobby. I've spend all day on it, and collected another no stamps today, so don't mock my hobby!
@desertasophy Athiesim is demonized by all the religious peeps. All Atheism means is that a person doesn't believe that god exists. Theists DO believe God exists THAT'S IT.
I cant find a reason to believe. I did believe for a long time. but it was fed to me from birth, But if you really try without bias, then you cant see how a god can exist.
@taicleis does that say separate church from state? or just that congress will not enstate any one "religion" that people must follow.or dies a la saudi arabia for example. People arent stupid they just dont really care. but it definitely does not say keep the two apart. like i said does anyone care today? no just the hooplas that need something to complain about after 200 years.
Yes, it does say that. If the state cannot make any laws respecting or prohibiting religions of any kind, then it can not have any legislative involvement whatsoever in religious affairs.
In other words, the state can't make laws that favour any religion. The state - which makes laws - is not allowed to make laws that pertain to religion.
Once more: the state can't deal with religion. They are kept separate. No government-sanctioned religion. That's the constitution.
Are you an atheist? Like punk rock (even a little)? Revolted by the Westboro Batshit Church? Let me invite you (shameless self promotion) to check out my song "daddy was a bigot". There's two versions, the original is longer and has a slideshow, the new one is just the song with a picture of pastor fred's face mutating and distorting. I just wanted to get the new version up so people could compare and tell me which is better. If you have a spare moment, please check it out. Thanks.
Man, if she weren't married.... well, I still would have no chance... moving on... I think Matt is right when it comes to all these damn plaques and crap. Personally I would like a world where nothing about religion (for or against) can be displayed in public outside of that sect's property. It would seem so much... I don't know, cleaner is the wrong word... This goes for any advertising, but that's never going to happen.
@ZeroIsMany I think in time, it will eventually be the norm, but not policed in any way. Mind you, that is somewhat Utopian. I am just sick of people using every bit of land to advertise something. If it's not on a billboard, its on a building or a bus, or on the little piling up all around us. It's making me a little claustrophobic. That's all, I'm done ranting, lmao!
@skywize So if we had groups that weren't allowed to be critized and those groups kept everything they do hidden from the public what kind of groups do you think would form? That would basically open the world to any and every kind of evil.
@ZeroIsMany Um... I'm not talking about censorship. I don't care who wants to advertise what. I'm just tired of the mess, and the fact it has to be on every wall.
@skywize Yes and what has censorship done with goverments when they don't tell the people what they are doing and the people aren't able to criticize them? Something that is such a huge part of someone's lifestyle needs to have discussion about it for it to develop in the right way. Let's take another example, gay rights came as soon as being gay became a topic of discussion instead of a hidden secret.
@ZeroIsMany You are something of a moron, aren't you? I meant ALL advertising of absolutely everything. Advertise online, do it on TV, just don't litter the fucking planet with this crap. Don't be a censorship fag, this has NOTHING to do with censorship. I don't care if Facebook had titties and a big honkin dick on their homepage. I don't care if school teachers swear in class, or teach cursing for that matter. Just don't tag everything with advertisements.
@skywize You clearly don't understand how the effects of censorship like that would afect the world as anyone who put their fate in Christianity, Islam, Judaism and most other monotheistic religions have holy scriptures that give them permission to kill any nonbeliever or anyone else when tols to do that by their God. The only reason we aren't in constant war is because people are able to talk about it. Quod erat demonstrandum virtute.
@skywize I only just checked your channel and saw yourself advertising yourself as an atheist and presenting an automatically playing video on the subject xD
@skywize You are doing exactly what you were speaking against. Which makes you abandon the view you keep defending with no arguments. So far what I know about you is that your "utopia" is something were any group of people could call anything a religion and not be criticized in any way while even you yourself are consiously fighting quite harder against your own dream than most.
sorry to tell you but, no just because you claim to follow the bible your not a Christian, even some atheists know the bible more than a pretend "so called Christian" .. And many false teachers of the bible are out there. Just like i could say many atheist have turned Christian. Why would they do that.. if you are so certain in your claims and you must be 100% without any doubt right..yet i dont belittle you for your belief. We do have freedom in our country. at least i think Christians do...
@forgiveeveryone this escapes a person with limited vision best to let them figure it out cant show them all what their minds have all ready prepared them for,
He will be a Christian someday, he is trying too hard to deny something he doesnt even understand why Christ doesnt exist... lol...One nation under God.... Christopher Columbus, one boat named maria,,, after st mary mother of Jesus,
@forgiveeveryone what on earth are you talking about you fool? He was a christian for 25 years...He understands it much better than you. Shame none of its true.
@itchygonads ok, first question what makes someone a Christian? Many call themselves Christian . Amazing how you call me a fool when you know nothing about me..people who think they know it all usually don't.
@forgiveeveryone ANYONE who follows the bible is christian. You cannot be as pretentious as to claim you are a true christian yet others arent. He was studying to be a minister if you didnt know (Which you obviously dont)
I can call you a fool, by how incredibly stupid your original comment was, he will NOT be a christian, it is easy to deny something that obviously is not real. There is NO strong evidence jesus even existed. And atheists are the fastest growing group in the usa...lol
Wow... what a hypocrite. These atheists are pathetic. They scream and cry and want the 10 commandments removed or a nativity scene demolished... but turn around and scream "1st amendment freedom of speech!" when an anti-religion poster is questioned. You can't have it both ways. You are all hypocrites.
@dex1391 Atheists don't complain about religious symbols that are paid for with private funds, and displayed on private property, unless they violate local laws. We do complain, however, when such things are paid for with public monies and/or displayed on public land because that violates the U.S. Constitution. Government may not promote and/or encourage religion, or favor any religion over another religion or no religion. The posters were paid for with private money, and are on private land.
@dex1391 They don#t want both. They just want one of both. Either it is separation of church and state, then there should be neither pro-christian, nor pro-islam, pro-jewish, pro-hindu or atheist messages. Or it is freedom of speech, then all of those mesages have to be there. Anything else would be hypocrite.
You, Sir, are probably not hypocrite, but just naively inable to listen to a complex argument and repeat it the way it was made. That is your way of embarrassing yourself on youtube.
How is it embarrassing for me to call out hypocrites? How is it not hypocritical for you to sue over religious signs yet scream "1st amendment" when the signs have atheist messages?
Atheists demand: "EITHER ban christian messages, OR allow contradicting messages"
You:"See, those Atheists demand a ban of christian messages AND contradicting messages."
The embarrassing part is your complete inability to process the simplest stages of logic. There is no hypocrisy displayed, just your ignorance is on display.
NO... atheists are hypocrites. Look at the video The same atheists that cry over Christian displays are upset because someone objects to this atheist one.
@dex1391 I looked at the video, and they just don't say, what you want to hear, no matter how many times you repeat it.
this is, like you sit in a car with a running engine, and someone tells you to EITHER move the car away OR shut down the engine, and you start to cry, because you think he told you to shut down the engine and push the car away by hands.
You are upset, because you want your christian talk protected by the first amendment AND the atheist plaque banned. THAT is hypocrisy.
Bullshit. These atheists are hypocrites. You can't demand that all religious speech and signs be banned but them scream 1st amendment when someone objects to bigoted atheist signs.
If you'd just shut up about religious displays... no one would say anything about your lil silly atheist ones. It's called freedom of speech and religion.
The government cannot endorse one religion over another.
Displays on public grounds do so.
This is a secular nation.
You can stand on the Corner and preach all you want, you can decorate your house all you want...but political officals may not endorse in on public grounds
Our Nation was designed to be Secular, with freedom for EVERYONE to practice thier beleifs so long as they are not impossed on others. Yet fundamentalist Christians continue to try to force religion on the populace at large.
@dex1391 "Every one of those men claimed to be Christian"
Let us examine thier words on that, shall we?
"Is it not a species of blasphemy to call the New Testament revealed religion, when we see in it such contradictions and absurdities"-Thomas Paine
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize, every expanded prospect."- James Madison (Sorry got him and Monroe mixed up) orrigionaly
@dex1391 "Some books against Deism fell into my hands; they were said to be the substance of sermons preached at Boyle's Lectures. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist" Ben Franklin
"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see."
"The body of Benjamin Franklin, printer, like the cover of an old book, its contents torn out and stripped of its lettering and guilding, lies here, food for worms. Yet the work itself shall not be lost; for it will, as he believed, appear once more in a new and more beatiful edition, corrected and amended by the Author."
@dex1391 Washington is more difficult, because he maintained a pretense of Christianity to the public opinion but of him, those close say..
Bradford wrote that Green, "often said in my hearing, though very sorrowfully, of course, that while Washington was very deferential to religion and its ceremonies, like nearly all the founders of the Republic, he was not a Christian, but a Deist."
"There's nothing in the constitution that talks about endorsement of religion" - 1st Ammendment "establishment" of religion. It dosn't jsut protect your right to practice, it forbids the government from showing preference
"Every session of congress begins with a prayer"-Which is unconstitutional
"employs many clergy for the military"- Who were origionaly volunteers, and likely will be again soon
"parochial schools are paid for by tax money"- Don't expect that much longer either
Read the first amendment. It's simply not in there.
NO it doesn't ... it forbids the government from passing laws that establish religion. Nothing they've done has done this. And it doesn't speak of endorsement.
NO... the prayer before congress is not unconstitutional.
No... they earn a paycheck... and have every right to do so.
Why ... you want to take away more rights from Christians?
Confirmed seperately by John Adams "Thus the Founders ensured that in no official sense would America be a Christian Republic. Ten years after the Constitutional Convention ended its work, the country assured the world that the United States was a secular state, and that its negotiations would adhere to the rule of law, not the dictates of the Christian faith."
"Are you trying to say that only atheist children deserve an education?"
No...Im saying that if you want to put your Children in a Private School to further your Private aims for them, then you should pay for it with your Private funds
NO... simply not true and the supreme court disagrees with you.
Cleveland and Milwaukee both have public funding for parochial schools. Which is being looked at in several other areas. THEY deemed it constitutional.
Most recent survey I could find by a Christian group listed Chritianity at 75.9% in 2008, that by the way was including the Catholics that other Christians love to calim arn't Christian.
Unfortunately, the U.S. Census dosn't have a poll on that of thier own becasue "Public Law 94-521 prohibits us from asking a question on religious affiliation on a mandatory basis; therefore, the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religion"
And the US census isn't accurate when it comes to religion. Most of us refuse to put that info in.
google this
Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. ... the United States; and one-third is Christian, compared to 83 percent in the United States. ...
@whiteowl1415 People also sometimes lie. If people believe they should be seen as Christians, they may say so in a poll without being an actual Christian. Polls are unreliable.
I like your channel, good comments on this video, I have sent you a friend invitation.
I'm not sure why Matt has a problem with Justice Breyer.
According to Breyer, when a 10 commandments display was in a park, surrounded by other historical monuments, it was OK because it wasn't promoting religion. When it was in a courthouse - where the authority of the state is paramount - it was NOT OK.
In other words, whether a particular display actually constitutes a promotion of religion is contextual. That' makes sense to me.
God is a spirit, an immaterial conscious being. All things in the universe consists of matter and/or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is the capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, wasn't created and can't be destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. He wants us to elevate our consciousness to the next level, is real
I want to put up a plaque in the capitol building displaying the Ten Demandments. As self-proclaimed ruler of the universe, I would like other humans to know what I demand of them.
Christmas is so secular now that it's not even an issue to me. And saying 'happy holidays' is a little defeating the purpose because holiday comes from the word 'holy day'. I think as atheists we need to pick out battles. All the 1st amendment really guarantees is no state church and no endorsement of any one religion.
@xtremejohnny69 I think the only reason an atheist could have a problem with christmas is the name. Yes, it came from christianity, but it's general knowledge now that it's a ripoff of a bunch of other religious celebrations. We could just go back to calling it the solstice or whatever, but it's what people are used to calling it now, so we stick with it. I've never heard of anyone wanting to change the names of the planets just because they're named after old Roman gods.
@medeyer Many do call it the winter solstice, I don't, Christmas represents celebrating consumerism and I'm all for that. Consumerism is the best part of Christmas anyway.
"I think the only reason an atheist could have a problem with christmas is the name"
Thats part of it, but frankly, my problem is getting beat over the head by it for months ahead of time, and more importantly, its the ONLY religous holiday that is officaly a Federal Holiday...thats a violation of 1st amendment
@RedSun875 no no, what i dont get is your response "Oh really??? LOL. And I am sure the Devil and his promoters like you never lie too! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! :D" Could you phrase this is in english, please? Not to be a snob but I have no clue what you are talking about Oo
The reason so many belive there is some all good GOD! Parents teach there children at a very early age (which is wrong) that an all good god will damn them, cast them aside, or burn them in hell if they don't follow the way of the good book. How can a young mind not belive this from their parents, at that age every thing mom an dad tell you have to be true in a childs eyes. To me that says you were threatend into beliving! You think an all good all knowing god wrote a hand book on how to act?
Fred Phelps believes the reason for the season is: GOD HATES FAGS.
in spite of the fact that the bible barely mentions homosexuality, except for a few occasions, and then says so many more relevant things about love...phelps makes it always about gays...Hmmm. latent homosexual feelings perhaps? Most homophobes are self doubting their feelings.
@beastshawnee I'm not trying to troll here, but has that "most homophobes are self doubting their feelings" been statistically demonstrated in some way? If so could you link it?
@SonOfNye Let's get real! How are you going to statistically demonstrate repressed feelings? Check box one if you homophobes get off on gay porn? Check box two if you homophobes get a stiffie from Justin Beiber, then get angry? It's a psychological theory....you never heard of it?..................seriously?
@beastshawnee No need to get snippy, I'm just asking a question. Yes I have heard this proposed before, but I am curious as to the reasoning/justification for the proposition.
@SonOfNye Similar to the larger proportion of racists being people from the lower social classes, with lower education. This doesn't mean that if you are racist, you are from a lower social class with a lower education, just the same as having less than 2 children doesn't make you more intelligent.
Some people are taught that certain personal preferences are natural, while others are taught that these same preferences are wrong. They may become fixated on what is their taboo.
I'm not religious, and despise Bill O'Reilly. He has willfully caused immeasurable suffering and physical harm to countless innocent civilians with his warmongering, and he ranks American casualties as the cost of doing business.
@onefodderunit What evidence do you have that the universe did not always exist? It has only finitely existed as we know it, that doesn't mean it is certain to have had a beginning or that the universe needed to be created in order to exist - or do you think energy can be created?
Don't tell me you absolutely know energy can be created.
@tangnatalaga So, you are explaining something which is beyond your comprehension? Best to just leave it.
I must ask where you get this idea from. You don't think it is possible for the universe, and all the energy in the universe, to have existed forever, without a cause or beginning? Who is to say the whole universe has only existed in the form which we know it to currently be?
In other words, you would need to demonstrate your points with evidence, for me to change my view on this matter.
@tangnatalaga If you actually noticed I was replying to onefodderunit, and they looked back through the comments for the past months, you would understand why I asked that question.
'...do you think energy can be created? Don't tell me you absolutely know energy can be created.' The question was rhetorical, the sentence was referencing onefodderunit's assertion that they 'absolutely know' (sic) creation is the result of intent (paraphrasing) and the universe was created by a supernatural force.
@tangnatalaga Do you mean particles come into existence - from nothing? Using nothing, making energy from nothing? This is new to me, and I would appreciate it if you provided a link so I could learn about this - energy being created from nothing phenomenon. Please, tell me where to start.
Also, I was supposed to say then instead of they (11th word of last comment).
@57worldwide I'm not interested in getting into an argument about whether God exists, but just so you know, the most common Big Bang theory is that there was NEVER a time when there was nothing, so matter and energy did NOT come from nothing. The theory is that time had a beginning, and that matter and energy existed from that moment onwards.
@Megaritz Sigh. The 'energy coming from nothing' is not a view I hold. It is someone else's.
This was all due to onefodderunit's masterful argument, where he has asserted that God must exist as all creations are the result of intent. Even children have the common sense to know this, he absolutely knows a God exists, etc.
In other words, you are explaining something to the wrong person. Try onefodderunit, he can then ask about 'your irrational faith that the universe and life are pointless'.
@Megaritz That's okay, we are allowed to be misunderstood. It's only when people attack positions that I don't hold, that I want to smack them. onefodderunit is one of those YouTube users.
@Megaritz OMG you admitted you misread something and apologised ? You are hear-by banished from the internet ! Begone unnatural one and never show your avatar here again.
@lughcious See this comment? You don't know how or when the universe was created? In other words, you have no idea wether or not an intelligent designer CREATED the universe, you merely ASSUME it. You have forgotten that our intercourse has been this long?
You thought I would get sick of your idiotic argument before you did? Get realistic. You are the only one here who doesn't know what the point of their life is.
frack bill O'crylly he is a uneducated government bully socialist propagandist public troglidite for the current corporate media a paid bitch !
to harass and belittle others on national tv and if he seriously thinks he lives by the constitution then he is truly delusional and thats only by the dictates of his own personal actions to others ! in my pinion a crazed public looser !
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." -- Einstein
"Whatsoever is, is in God, and without God nothing can be, or be conceived." -- Spinoza
I can't believe any Christian can demonize Santa Claus! After all, Santa is such a 'Christ-like' giving mythological figure just like huh..Jesus.
Lennon4ever1 2 days ago
@Mutherzmilk
it's easier to watch the humane society commercials!
youthank8 1 week ago
Damn its hard to watch Bills dumb ass
Mutherzmilk 1 week ago
Little theist faggots.
DngerousRadical 2 weeks ago
@DngerousRadical Faggot? Like the meatball?
paraplegicgiraffe 6 days ago
@deltaalphacharlie JESUS CHRIST HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE BILL OF RIGHS?! IT'S THE FIRST FUCKIN ADMENDMENT, THE FIRST ONE. THE FIRST LINE OF THE FIRST ONE. MAYBE IT'S IMPORTANT?!
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
FrancisofDrake 2 weeks ago
that's a blatant lie. no where in the constitution does it say separation between church and state. the term was coined by t. Jefferson in December of 1802 to appease baptists WHO WERE AFRAID OF A DENOMINATIONAL doctrine as the state observance not Christianity as a whole. Christianity because that was the faith. not trying to bias here.
deltaalphacharlie 1 month ago
@deltaalphacharlie read a book.
deltaalphacharlie 1 month ago
@deltaalphacharlie Read it again.Thats No religons or religious views from christianity to atheism, the government wipes its hands clean of the entire question of god.You can practice, but the government may not favour one over the many hundreds of thousands of faiths in the world.By allowing other religons to be free to pray then they are going against the first 4 commandments so no christianity islam or atheism will never be approved by the state.
Thelondonbadger 3 weeks ago
@Thelondonbadger atheism is not a religion. ok? thanks and bye
dieghettozz 2 weeks ago
@dieghettozz Hey, don't hate! Not collecting stamps is my favourite hobby. I've spend all day on it, and collected another no stamps today, so don't mock my hobby!
desertasophy 2 weeks ago
@desertasophy what the...?
dieghettozz 2 weeks ago
@dieghettozz You said atheism is not a religion, thus indirectly mocking a lot of my hobbies.
Atheism is not believing in god, which is a religion, as much as not collecting stamps or not playing soccer is a hobby.
desertasophy 2 weeks ago
@desertasophy oh ok ok sorry didn't get that :)
dieghettozz 2 weeks ago
@desertasophy Athiesim is demonized by all the religious peeps. All Atheism means is that a person doesn't believe that god exists. Theists DO believe God exists THAT'S IT.
I cant find a reason to believe. I did believe for a long time. but it was fed to me from birth, But if you really try without bias, then you cant see how a god can exist.
Mutherzmilk 1 week ago
@deltaalphacharlie
""Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" - The US Constitution
taicleis 3 weeks ago
@taicleis does that say separate church from state? or just that congress will not enstate any one "religion" that people must follow.or dies a la saudi arabia for example. People arent stupid they just dont really care. but it definitely does not say keep the two apart. like i said does anyone care today? no just the hooplas that need something to complain about after 200 years.
deltaalphacharlie 3 weeks ago
@deltaalphacharlie
Yes, it does say that. If the state cannot make any laws respecting or prohibiting religions of any kind, then it can not have any legislative involvement whatsoever in religious affairs.
In other words, the state can't make laws that favour any religion. The state - which makes laws - is not allowed to make laws that pertain to religion.
Once more: the state can't deal with religion. They are kept separate. No government-sanctioned religion. That's the constitution.
taicleis 2 weeks ago
Display goes in
Tears come out
You can't explain that!
pmuaddib12 1 month ago 52
@pmuaddib12 Bread goes in, toast comes out. You can't explain that!!!!
LOGICandREAS0N 2 weeks ago 3
What song is this by John?
jfwade13 1 month ago
@jfwade13 The song is titled "God."
Chaoitcme 1 month ago
Billdo has no class and integrity
DawnOfTheDead991 1 month ago
Are you an atheist? Like punk rock (even a little)? Revolted by the Westboro Batshit Church? Let me invite you (shameless self promotion) to check out my song "daddy was a bigot". There's two versions, the original is longer and has a slideshow, the new one is just the song with a picture of pastor fred's face mutating and distorting. I just wanted to get the new version up so people could compare and tell me which is better. If you have a spare moment, please check it out. Thanks.
Peace.
AdamRainStopper 2 months ago 10
FOOLS !!!!!
flatop59 2 months ago
Man, if she weren't married.... well, I still would have no chance... moving on... I think Matt is right when it comes to all these damn plaques and crap. Personally I would like a world where nothing about religion (for or against) can be displayed in public outside of that sect's property. It would seem so much... I don't know, cleaner is the wrong word... This goes for any advertising, but that's never going to happen.
skywize 2 months ago
@skywize You have no idea how dangerous that would be.
ZeroIsMany 2 months ago
@ZeroIsMany I think in time, it will eventually be the norm, but not policed in any way. Mind you, that is somewhat Utopian. I am just sick of people using every bit of land to advertise something. If it's not on a billboard, its on a building or a bus, or on the little piling up all around us. It's making me a little claustrophobic. That's all, I'm done ranting, lmao!
skywize 2 months ago
@skywize So if we had groups that weren't allowed to be critized and those groups kept everything they do hidden from the public what kind of groups do you think would form? That would basically open the world to any and every kind of evil.
ZeroIsMany 2 months ago
@ZeroIsMany Um... I'm not talking about censorship. I don't care who wants to advertise what. I'm just tired of the mess, and the fact it has to be on every wall.
skywize 2 months ago
@skywize Yes and what has censorship done with goverments when they don't tell the people what they are doing and the people aren't able to criticize them? Something that is such a huge part of someone's lifestyle needs to have discussion about it for it to develop in the right way. Let's take another example, gay rights came as soon as being gay became a topic of discussion instead of a hidden secret.
ZeroIsMany 2 months ago
@ZeroIsMany You are something of a moron, aren't you? I meant ALL advertising of absolutely everything. Advertise online, do it on TV, just don't litter the fucking planet with this crap. Don't be a censorship fag, this has NOTHING to do with censorship. I don't care if Facebook had titties and a big honkin dick on their homepage. I don't care if school teachers swear in class, or teach cursing for that matter. Just don't tag everything with advertisements.
skywize 2 months ago
@skywize You clearly don't understand how the effects of censorship like that would afect the world as anyone who put their fate in Christianity, Islam, Judaism and most other monotheistic religions have holy scriptures that give them permission to kill any nonbeliever or anyone else when tols to do that by their God. The only reason we aren't in constant war is because people are able to talk about it. Quod erat demonstrandum virtute.
ZeroIsMany 2 months ago
@ZeroIsMany Ok, you are obviously trolling since I put this stuff to rest already. Bye.
skywize 2 months ago
@skywize I only just checked your channel and saw yourself advertising yourself as an atheist and presenting an automatically playing video on the subject xD
ZeroIsMany 2 months ago
@ZeroIsMany That's me. Your point?
skywize 2 months ago
@skywize You are doing exactly what you were speaking against. Which makes you abandon the view you keep defending with no arguments. So far what I know about you is that your "utopia" is something were any group of people could call anything a religion and not be criticized in any way while even you yourself are consiously fighting quite harder against your own dream than most.
ZeroIsMany 2 months ago
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@ZeroIsMany troll. fuck off, this conversation is over.
skywize 2 months ago
sorry to tell you but, no just because you claim to follow the bible your not a Christian, even some atheists know the bible more than a pretend "so called Christian" .. And many false teachers of the bible are out there. Just like i could say many atheist have turned Christian. Why would they do that.. if you are so certain in your claims and you must be 100% without any doubt right..yet i dont belittle you for your belief. We do have freedom in our country. at least i think Christians do...
forgiveeveryone 2 months ago
@forgiveeveryone this escapes a person with limited vision best to let them figure it out cant show them all what their minds have all ready prepared them for,
deltaalphacharlie 1 month ago
What is the meaning of "F"? Free Thinker? = Fuck Free Thinker?
TheMichlink 2 months ago
@TheMichlink I think FreeThinker was already taken
MarcusEFN 2 months ago
He will be a Christian someday, he is trying too hard to deny something he doesnt even understand why Christ doesnt exist... lol...One nation under God.... Christopher Columbus, one boat named maria,,, after st mary mother of Jesus,
forgiveeveryone 2 months ago
@forgiveeveryone what on earth are you talking about you fool? He was a christian for 25 years...He understands it much better than you. Shame none of its true.
itchygonads 2 months ago
@itchygonads ok, first question what makes someone a Christian? Many call themselves Christian . Amazing how you call me a fool when you know nothing about me..people who think they know it all usually don't.
forgiveeveryone 2 months ago
@forgiveeveryone ANYONE who follows the bible is christian. You cannot be as pretentious as to claim you are a true christian yet others arent. He was studying to be a minister if you didnt know (Which you obviously dont)
I can call you a fool, by how incredibly stupid your original comment was, he will NOT be a christian, it is easy to deny something that obviously is not real. There is NO strong evidence jesus even existed. And atheists are the fastest growing group in the usa...lol
itchygonads 2 months ago
"It's a white nation... I dare you to say that Bill..."
awesomness personified
2Jax 2 months ago
John Lennon FTW!
lago4 2 months ago
@lago4 I can't really take John Lennon's Word for it Beacuse he doesen't even Believe in The Beatles when he was clearly a Member of The Group..
romans52345 2 months ago
I would love to see Matt debate with Bill. I know it won't be a fair fight, but it will be a funny one.
18booma 2 months ago
@18booma Bill would throw a tantrum as he always does.
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@lotmein20
Now that's not totally accurate. A deist doesn't believe in a personal God or an afterlife. I was a theist but didn't have a religion.
dex1391 3 months ago
Perfect example of why there shouldn't be religious displays on public property at all.
BeekersSqueakers 3 months ago
@BeekersSqueakers
Hypocrite..
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 How so?
BeekersSqueakers 3 months ago
Wow... what a hypocrite. These atheists are pathetic. They scream and cry and want the 10 commandments removed or a nativity scene demolished... but turn around and scream "1st amendment freedom of speech!" when an anti-religion poster is questioned. You can't have it both ways. You are all hypocrites.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 Atheists don't complain about religious symbols that are paid for with private funds, and displayed on private property, unless they violate local laws. We do complain, however, when such things are paid for with public monies and/or displayed on public land because that violates the U.S. Constitution. Government may not promote and/or encourage religion, or favor any religion over another religion or no religion. The posters were paid for with private money, and are on private land.
YY4Me133 3 months ago
@YY4Me133
Bullshit. You're all hypocrites...
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 Care to explain that?
YY4Me133 3 months ago
@dex1391 They don#t want both. They just want one of both. Either it is separation of church and state, then there should be neither pro-christian, nor pro-islam, pro-jewish, pro-hindu or atheist messages. Or it is freedom of speech, then all of those mesages have to be there. Anything else would be hypocrite.
You, Sir, are probably not hypocrite, but just naively inable to listen to a complex argument and repeat it the way it was made. That is your way of embarrassing yourself on youtube.
BusterXXXL 3 months ago
@BusterXXXL
How is it embarrassing for me to call out hypocrites? How is it not hypocritical for you to sue over religious signs yet scream "1st amendment" when the signs have atheist messages?
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 OK, more simply:
Atheists demand: "EITHER ban christian messages, OR allow contradicting messages"
You:"See, those Atheists demand a ban of christian messages AND contradicting messages."
The embarrassing part is your complete inability to process the simplest stages of logic. There is no hypocrisy displayed, just your ignorance is on display.
BusterXXXL 3 months ago 2
@BusterXXXL
NO... atheists are hypocrites. Look at the video The same atheists that cry over Christian displays are upset because someone objects to this atheist one.
That's the definition of hypocrisy.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 I looked at the video, and they just don't say, what you want to hear, no matter how many times you repeat it.
this is, like you sit in a car with a running engine, and someone tells you to EITHER move the car away OR shut down the engine, and you start to cry, because you think he told you to shut down the engine and push the car away by hands.
You are upset, because you want your christian talk protected by the first amendment AND the atheist plaque banned. THAT is hypocrisy.
BusterXXXL 3 months ago
@BusterXXXL
Bullshit. These atheists are hypocrites. You can't demand that all religious speech and signs be banned but them scream 1st amendment when someone objects to bigoted atheist signs.
That's hypocrisy.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 "That's hypocrisy. "
Actualy thats fighting fire with fire.
Stop public religous displays and you will find the Atheistic one disappear just as quickly.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
no ... lol it's hypocrisy. If you're really against these types of displays.. YOU MUST BE AGAINST ATHEIST DISPLAYS TOO.
If not... you're a hypocrite...
dex1391 3 months ago
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@dex1391
"no ... lol it's hypocrisy. If you're really against these types of displays.. YOU MUST BE AGAINST ATHEIST DISPLAYS TOO"
Were teh Atheist displays unprovoked, I would be against them.
As is, I see fighting fire with fre as a just recourse.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
If you'd just shut up about religious displays... no one would say anything about your lil silly atheist ones. It's called freedom of speech and religion.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
"It's called freedom of speech and religion"
When you do it in your yard, YES
When you do it on Public PRoperty held by the government, it is called Establishment of Religion
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Sorry no. I don't lose my 1st amendment rights when i leave my yard.
That's not going to happen.
And no... lol a sign or tree or ornament isn't an establishment of religion.
If I put up a sign that says... "God saves" what religion am I establishing?
You're being foolish now... and still hypocritical.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
The government cannot endorse one religion over another.
Displays on public grounds do so.
This is a secular nation.
You can stand on the Corner and preach all you want, you can decorate your house all you want...but political officals may not endorse in on public grounds
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
1. Yes they can...
2. a religious display isn't unconstitutional
3. No it's not...
There's nothing in the constitution that talks about endorsement of religion.
You really should do some reading.
Every session of congress begins with a prayer.
The US government employs many clergy for the military.
parochial schools are paid for by tax money...
NONE of this is unconstitutional.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
1) NO they can not
2) If the Government is doing it, it is...thats why teh 10 Commandments were taken out of the courthouses
3) This IS a secular nation. It was established by nonChristian primarily to be just that. Citizens may be religion, but the nation is forbiden to be
cont.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
1. Why because you say so? It's not written anywhere...
2. They're wrong to remove the 10 commandments
3. No it's not. No where in the Constitution does it claim that it is a secular nation.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
1, 2 and 3)
In the consitution religion is mentioned twice (Date not withstanding as that is habit not religious endorsement)
One: to prevent the religious testing of those seeking office
Two: The 1st Amendment
cont
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
OK... so what?
Try reading the 1st amendment.
It limits government... not individual rights.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Thats my point...It limits Government.
You can do all the religious crap you want...When the City Hall endorses it on Pubic Land then its too far
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Yes... it doesn't allow government to pass a law that establishes a religion. To date... no law exists.
Again... it never talks about endorsement.
Read the constitution.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
I TEACH the Constitution
You are willfuly misrepresenting it.
Of the 7 Founding Fathers, only 1 was Christian.
Our Nation was designed to be Secular, with freedom for EVERYONE to practice thier beleifs so long as they are not impossed on others. Yet fundamentalist Christians continue to try to force religion on the populace at large.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
Ok then teach... let's look at the Constitution.
No where does it back up your claims.
And um take a history class teach.... there were 74 founding fathers.
Almost all of them were Christian.
None were confirmed atheist or deist..
And only 2 or 3 had questionable beliefs.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferon, John Adams, George Washington, James Monroe, Thomas Paine
Only John Jay was Solidly a beleiver
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Every one of those men claimed to be Christian. The only one questionable of the group was Jefferson and he still claimed to be Christian..
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391 "Every one of those men claimed to be Christian"
Let us examine thier words on that, shall we?
"Is it not a species of blasphemy to call the New Testament revealed religion, when we see in it such contradictions and absurdities"-Thomas Paine
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprize, every expanded prospect."- James Madison (Sorry got him and Monroe mixed up) orrigionaly
Cont.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@dex1391 "Some books against Deism fell into my hands; they were said to be the substance of sermons preached at Boyle's Lectures. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist" Ben Franklin
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Oh you like to quote mine.. I can do that too.
"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see."
Benjamin Franklin
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
I note you find a quote regardin Morals but fail in 2 points.
a) Was this before his conversion to Deism?
b) I notice he dosn't say Christ in there, or aknowledge Jesus as anything more than a man.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Show me a single quote that states... either
"I am a deist"
Or
"I am not a Christian"
Otherwise it's all bunk.
For every questionable quote you give... I can give you one that shows the opposite.
I have no interest in your quote mining.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
YOU claimed they were confirmed Christians, with the exception of JEfferson.
In doing so, YOU demanded evidence.
I provided it.
Deny it all you want.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Actually... you should read what I said.
I said all of them claimed to be Christian. They considered themselves to be Christian.
You've yet to provide any of them claiming anything different...
dex1391 3 months ago
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@dex1391
"I said all of them claimed to be Christian'
Find me any of them that claim
a) Jesus's devinity
b) A belief in salvation through Jesus
c) Any Creator, Heavenly father, etc reference that Specificaly states the God of the Christians
You state they claim it...show me.
Jefferson flat out refered to Jesus birth as Mythology (In fairness you did conceede him since he was the most obvious about it)
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
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@dex1391(Show me a single quote that states... either "I am a deist" Or"I am not a Christian")
I did, you ignored it
"in short, I soon became a thorough Deist"-Ben Franklin
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
"The body of Benjamin Franklin, printer, like the cover of an old book, its contents torn out and stripped of its lettering and guilding, lies here, food for worms. Yet the work itself shall not be lost; for it will, as he believed, appear once more in a new and more beatiful edition, corrected and amended by the Author."
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Still dosn't say Ben was Christian.
Deists often reference a creator God, but not the Christian one
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
True... but a deist doesn't believe in an afterlife... which he claimed to believe in.
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@dex1391
"but a deist doesn't believe in an afterlife"
Deists may or may not believe in an afterlife. They merely beleive that God does not take a personal intrest in it
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@dex1391 Washington is more difficult, because he maintained a pretense of Christianity to the public opinion but of him, those close say..
Bradford wrote that Green, "often said in my hearing, though very sorrowfully, of course, that while Washington was very deferential to religion and its ceremonies, like nearly all the founders of the Republic, he was not a Christian, but a Deist."
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@dex1391
"There's nothing in the constitution that talks about endorsement of religion" - 1st Ammendment "establishment" of religion. It dosn't jsut protect your right to practice, it forbids the government from showing preference
"Every session of congress begins with a prayer"-Which is unconstitutional
"employs many clergy for the military"- Who were origionaly volunteers, and likely will be again soon
"parochial schools are paid for by tax money"- Don't expect that much longer either
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Read the first amendment. It's simply not in there.
NO it doesn't ... it forbids the government from passing laws that establish religion. Nothing they've done has done this. And it doesn't speak of endorsement.
NO... the prayer before congress is not unconstitutional.
No... they earn a paycheck... and have every right to do so.
Why ... you want to take away more rights from Christians?
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Confirmed seperately by John Adams "Thus the Founders ensured that in no official sense would America be a Christian Republic. Ten years after the Constitutional Convention ended its work, the country assured the world that the United States was a secular state, and that its negotiations would adhere to the rule of law, not the dictates of the Christian faith."
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Are you trying to say that only atheist children deserve an education?
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@dex1391
"Are you trying to say that only atheist children deserve an education?"
No...Im saying that if you want to put your Children in a Private School to further your Private aims for them, then you should pay for it with your Private funds
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@dex1391
"Why ... you want to take away more rights from Christians?"
As teh Christian right continues to try to make judgements about people's personal lives....now THAT is hypocritical
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
Nice strawman...
Why should only atheist kids get an education?
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Public schools don't differintiate Religon vs Atheist
We teach was is verifiable.
What isn't is for you to work out on your own
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
NO... simply not true and the supreme court disagrees with you.
Cleveland and Milwaukee both have public funding for parochial schools. Which is being looked at in several other areas. THEY deemed it constitutional.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
And if Tax money started being used for Pagan, Jeewish or Muslim schools?
Government can't show preference.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
That would be fantastic.
83% of the nation is Christian. There's nothing wrong with giving Christian parents a choice.
The COURT HAS SPOKEN.
Perhaps you'd know that if you really taught
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
"83% of the nation is Christian"
Wrong
13-15% Are Atheists
We also have Shamanism, Paganism, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Satanism, Daoism...I had one of my tatoos done by a Preist of Odin.
NO WAY your estimate is right
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
NO... sorry but 83% is Christian. That's a fact...
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Most recent survey I could find by a Christian group listed Chritianity at 75.9% in 2008, that by the way was including the Catholics that other Christians love to calim arn't Christian.
Unfortunately, the U.S. Census dosn't have a poll on that of thier own becasue "Public Law 94-521 prohibits us from asking a question on religious affiliation on a mandatory basis; therefore, the Bureau of the Census is not the source for information on religion"
So much for your 83% "fact"
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
It's 83%
And the US census isn't accurate when it comes to religion. Most of us refuse to put that info in.
google this
Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians. ... the United States; and one-third is Christian, compared to 83 percent in the United States. ...
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Did you even read my post?
U.S. Census has NO INFORMATION ON THAT, because they ARN'T ALLOWED TO ASK
I followd from U.S. Census to a religious poll, and chose to overlok the Bias inherent in that poll
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@dex1391 "
google this
Eighty-three percent of Americans identify themselves as Christians"
I did, and I found your info was 10 years out of date.
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
And there are many others. It is 83%
Did you know that your atheist stat is wrong?
Every poll that lists atheists that high has them in the category "Without Religion"
Well let me tell you. At one point in my life I was in that box.
And I assure you. I was never an atheist.
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
LMAO
83% is from 2001
75.9% is from 2008
We are in 2011 and religion is consistantly falling
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415
There's zero evidence that says it's any lower than 83%
dex1391 3 months ago
@dex1391
Try Googleing "Religious Demographics" and clicking on the one that says (The 2012 Statistical Abstract: Population)
Scroll down to line 75 and open teh excell document.
Divide the number of Christians by the total number at the top, then multiply by 100 to get the %
You'll find it is 75.9% (Repeating 9)
I followed you Google request. Show integrity and see what you find
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
@whiteowl1415 People also sometimes lie. If people believe they should be seen as Christians, they may say so in a poll without being an actual Christian. Polls are unreliable.
I like your channel, good comments on this video, I have sent you a friend invitation.
57worldwide 3 months ago
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youneekk 3 months ago
white nation lmao
iliamark 3 months ago
I'm not sure why Matt has a problem with Justice Breyer.
According to Breyer, when a 10 commandments display was in a park, surrounded by other historical monuments, it was OK because it wasn't promoting religion. When it was in a courthouse - where the authority of the state is paramount - it was NOT OK.
In other words, whether a particular display actually constitutes a promotion of religion is contextual. That' makes sense to me.
Of course the park happened to be Austin...
hazydavey 4 months ago
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God is a spirit, an immaterial conscious being. All things in the universe consists of matter and/or energy, so if God isn't matter, is energy by definition. Energy is the capacity to do work, is eternal, omnipresent, wasn't created and can't be destroyed, can create matter, was the only thing present before the BB, and the energy required to make the universe must had been powerful. All these match Biblical descriptions of God. He wants us to elevate our consciousness to the next level, is real
dejesusluisx 4 months ago
This is NOT a christian nation. It never was.
druidic6 4 months ago 4
I want to put up a plaque in the capitol building displaying the Ten Demandments. As self-proclaimed ruler of the universe, I would like other humans to know what I demand of them.
Draginvry2 4 months ago 2
The "reason for the season" is that humans need an excuse to give and receive presents and drink alcohol.
narutofan9999 4 months ago 2
Christmas is so secular now that it's not even an issue to me. And saying 'happy holidays' is a little defeating the purpose because holiday comes from the word 'holy day'. I think as atheists we need to pick out battles. All the 1st amendment really guarantees is no state church and no endorsement of any one religion.
xtremejohnny69 5 months ago
@xtremejohnny69 I think the only reason an atheist could have a problem with christmas is the name. Yes, it came from christianity, but it's general knowledge now that it's a ripoff of a bunch of other religious celebrations. We could just go back to calling it the solstice or whatever, but it's what people are used to calling it now, so we stick with it. I've never heard of anyone wanting to change the names of the planets just because they're named after old Roman gods.
medeyer 5 months ago 20
@medeyer Many do call it the winter solstice, I don't, Christmas represents celebrating consumerism and I'm all for that. Consumerism is the best part of Christmas anyway.
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@medeyer
"I think the only reason an atheist could have a problem with christmas is the name"
Thats part of it, but frankly, my problem is getting beat over the head by it for months ahead of time, and more importantly, its the ONLY religous holiday that is officaly a Federal Holiday...thats a violation of 1st amendment
whiteowl1415 3 months ago
Belive in and help your fellow man, we are the ones that have made the planet the way it is.
justwingingit 5 months ago
@justwingingit Christians or Atheists? And who says the planet is good the way it is?
lasoogneypubes 4 months ago
@lasoogneypubes Satanists tend to say that which is true in my opinion
BlackMetalWorld 4 months ago
@BlackMetalWorld Oh really??? LOL. And I am sure the Devil and his promoters like you never lie too! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! :D
RedSun875 3 months ago
@RedSun875 ...what?
BlackMetalWorld 3 months ago
@BlackMetalWorld look at your comment. I know it was two weeks ago. :)
RedSun875 3 months ago
@RedSun875 no no, what i dont get is your response "Oh really??? LOL. And I am sure the Devil and his promoters like you never lie too! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! :D" Could you phrase this is in english, please? Not to be a snob but I have no clue what you are talking about Oo
BlackMetalWorld 3 months ago
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@BlackMetalWorld I responded to your post "Satanists tend to say that which is true in my opinion" Funny stuff right there, hence my comment. :P
RedSun875 3 months ago
The reason so many belive there is some all good GOD! Parents teach there children at a very early age (which is wrong) that an all good god will damn them, cast them aside, or burn them in hell if they don't follow the way of the good book. How can a young mind not belive this from their parents, at that age every thing mom an dad tell you have to be true in a childs eyes. To me that says you were threatend into beliving! You think an all good all knowing god wrote a hand book on how to act?
justwingingit 5 months ago 2
Fred Phelps believes the reason for the season is: GOD HATES FAGS.
in spite of the fact that the bible barely mentions homosexuality, except for a few occasions, and then says so many more relevant things about love...phelps makes it always about gays...Hmmm. latent homosexual feelings perhaps? Most homophobes are self doubting their feelings.
beastshawnee 5 months ago
@beastshawnee I'm not trying to troll here, but has that "most homophobes are self doubting their feelings" been statistically demonstrated in some way? If so could you link it?
SonOfNye 5 months ago
@SonOfNye Let's get real! How are you going to statistically demonstrate repressed feelings? Check box one if you homophobes get off on gay porn? Check box two if you homophobes get a stiffie from Justin Beiber, then get angry? It's a psychological theory....you never heard of it?..................seriously?
beastshawnee 5 months ago
@beastshawnee No need to get snippy, I'm just asking a question. Yes I have heard this proposed before, but I am curious as to the reasoning/justification for the proposition.
SonOfNye 5 months ago
@SonOfNye Similar to the larger proportion of racists being people from the lower social classes, with lower education. This doesn't mean that if you are racist, you are from a lower social class with a lower education, just the same as having less than 2 children doesn't make you more intelligent.
Some people are taught that certain personal preferences are natural, while others are taught that these same preferences are wrong. They may become fixated on what is their taboo.
57worldwide 5 months ago
PLEASE, PLEASE, let there come a time when Bill takes on Matt... I'm willing it right now. The devastation to Bill O' Dickhead would be epic!
DeluxeSux 5 months ago
@DeluxeSux oyg that would be fucking awesome
parkerthehicks 5 months ago
Thanks, FFreeThinker, for your non-censorship.
I'm not religious, and despise Bill O'Reilly. He has willfully caused immeasurable suffering and physical harm to countless innocent civilians with his warmongering, and he ranks American casualties as the cost of doing business.
O'Reilly should be tried for treason.
onefodderunit 6 months ago
@onefodderunit Who said we have to give him a trial, all you need is about 7 minutes of the O'reily factour to know that he commited treason.
xxxeMoforAday22xxx 6 months ago
@onefodderunit What evidence do you have that the universe did not always exist? It has only finitely existed as we know it, that doesn't mean it is certain to have had a beginning or that the universe needed to be created in order to exist - or do you think energy can be created?
Don't tell me you absolutely know energy can be created.
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tangnatalaga 5 months ago
@tangnatalaga So, you are explaining something which is beyond your comprehension? Best to just leave it.
I must ask where you get this idea from. You don't think it is possible for the universe, and all the energy in the universe, to have existed forever, without a cause or beginning? Who is to say the whole universe has only existed in the form which we know it to currently be?
In other words, you would need to demonstrate your points with evidence, for me to change my view on this matter.
57worldwide 5 months ago
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tangnatalaga 5 months ago
@tangnatalaga If you actually noticed I was replying to onefodderunit, and they looked back through the comments for the past months, you would understand why I asked that question.
'...do you think energy can be created? Don't tell me you absolutely know energy can be created.' The question was rhetorical, the sentence was referencing onefodderunit's assertion that they 'absolutely know' (sic) creation is the result of intent (paraphrasing) and the universe was created by a supernatural force.
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tangnatalaga 5 months ago
@tangnatalaga Do you mean particles come into existence - from nothing? Using nothing, making energy from nothing? This is new to me, and I would appreciate it if you provided a link so I could learn about this - energy being created from nothing phenomenon. Please, tell me where to start.
Also, I was supposed to say then instead of they (11th word of last comment).
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@tangnatalaga I will definitely check it out and absorb as much as I possibly can.
57worldwide 5 months ago
@57worldwide I'm not interested in getting into an argument about whether God exists, but just so you know, the most common Big Bang theory is that there was NEVER a time when there was nothing, so matter and energy did NOT come from nothing. The theory is that time had a beginning, and that matter and energy existed from that moment onwards.
Megaritz 5 months ago
@Megaritz Sigh. The 'energy coming from nothing' is not a view I hold. It is someone else's.
This was all due to onefodderunit's masterful argument, where he has asserted that God must exist as all creations are the result of intent. Even children have the common sense to know this, he absolutely knows a God exists, etc.
In other words, you are explaining something to the wrong person. Try onefodderunit, he can then ask about 'your irrational faith that the universe and life are pointless'.
57worldwide 5 months ago
@57worldwide My apologies, I misread your comment.
Megaritz 5 months ago
@Megaritz That's okay, we are allowed to be misunderstood. It's only when people attack positions that I don't hold, that I want to smack them. onefodderunit is one of those YouTube users.
So many of their statements were nonsense.
57worldwide 5 months ago
@Megaritz OMG you admitted you misread something and apologised ? You are hear-by banished from the internet ! Begone unnatural one and never show your avatar here again.
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Boudiga 6 months ago
@lughcious See this comment? You don't know how or when the universe was created? In other words, you have no idea wether or not an intelligent designer CREATED the universe, you merely ASSUME it. You have forgotten that our intercourse has been this long?
You thought I would get sick of your idiotic argument before you did? Get realistic. You are the only one here who doesn't know what the point of their life is.
57worldwide 6 months ago
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57worldwide 6 months ago
frack bill O'crylly he is a uneducated government bully socialist propagandist public troglidite for the current corporate media a paid bitch !
to harass and belittle others on national tv and if he seriously thinks he lives by the constitution then he is truly delusional and thats only by the dictates of his own personal actions to others ! in my pinion a crazed public looser !
tv0039 6 months ago
Einstein believed in God - his capital 'G'
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." -- Einstein
"Whatsoever is, is in God, and without God nothing can be, or be conceived." -- Spinoza
onefodderunit 6 months ago
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@onefodderunit
Your first line: "'Einstein believed in God - his capital 'G'"
Your second line [quoting einstein]: "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly"
- you've debunked your own claim, spinozas god is pantheistic ie. he is using the univ