Pbody Brawl tournament second final R4 - DEHF vs. DC

[Mattorpen]

that marth player was pretty impressive

[Draginslayar]

how do you make pit glide at 0:44?

[DietWater]

hold jump button

[Draginslayar]

thx

[daskateh]

wow are they skaters? ZERO and DC both skate companies.

[tonycao88]

Funny...

[Threefaced1]

I think that this pit player is completely unaware that you can dodge in the air..

[richlberry]

marth players are gay they think there so good even though hes the best player in the game 4 no good reason he's gay

[cenagang2]

so not true actually snake is the best player cause he's got too much strength..

marth is good if you know how to use him.

[aeidein]

upB out of shield = awesome

[CactusbIah]

Marth = op

[tpaganin]

I hate Marth players (y)

[lemonadepack]

DC wasn't the best Marth player I've seen but was pretty decent regardless... I wish I could say the same for DEHF however

[mlitrus]

congratulations marth! we don't need some cheap projectile or four jumps plus a fifth jump to win!

[PunchedCamel]

wow 2:42-2:44 marth does to pit what kenobi did to maul

good job

[lemonadepack]

lol, what a random reference to make. i enjoyed it

[LordZelgius]

I'm better with Marth, but this guy played really cool.

[ripton1994]

pits glide was sweet.!

[Tapepsi]

That Marth player pwned.

[liliumoche]

Is it possible for you to do a vid comparing glides? Or do you know who owned the game at that tourney?

[BloodLegaZ]

this is the best fight between these two that show marth going pro. in most of the other ones i think they were pretty much even. these two have the best matches i have seen thus far. good job guys keep up the ownage!!!

[Backoff07]

omg that marth wrecked that game

[gxzpu2]

How come all the vids of Pit i see end up with Pit losing.... -[

[Noblethe3rd]

Watch Round 1 and 3 of their fights if you want to see Pit winning.

[djchimpster91]

Whoa, sweet match, Marth has some sweet combos in this vid

[Syzothermy]

Next time, I suggest not putting "Get Your Tournament" over p1's stock count -.-

[BloodLegaZ]

nice sword fight guys, i love watching you two duke it out. though i guess im biest b/c i always like roy over marth but i do like pit more ^.^ +he is an angel, that makes him auto-pro lol

[ShideShugo]

the best combat of DC

[3loodwolf117]

Gah! i hate marth! he's too easy to use and requires practically no skill

[abelign1991]

hi im abel, you must be retarded.

[LuffyKisser]

agreed! marth should have been nerfed as bad as fox and sheik.

[rdz1645]

F U. Shiek rocks!

[slimslamer]

Neither of them were enrfed very hard... On the plus side, msot of the othr characters were buffed, making it more even.

[BloodLegaZ]

sheik was buffed too...hip,hip...*sigh* russle is going to start kicking my ass with her again...

[luiginaruto]

srry i didnt meant to give u a minus bloodlegalzit happened on accident

[luiginaruto]

i can tell that anime penguin doesnt know how to play the game the right way cuz it does take skill to use every character he just mentioned

[AnimePenguin101]

To use him well it requires practically no skill, like Mario, Pikachu, Fox, and so many more. To use him REALLY well takes skill. He's kinda like Jigglypuff. Everyone makes a false impression based on how well average players play him, when they really have no idea how good/bad the character is.

[DanielSmith604]

Rape

[RevoltingSlob]

Marth is soo cheap

[killerdc562]

i know but i had to od waT I had to do to win!

[santa729]

agreed, only pussies play as marth. why'd he get buffed for brawl?! he was unbalanced like crazy in melee

[DreadlordSanta]

Crazy that someone else with santa in their name would hate Marth as you do <_< How did Marth get buffed, again? He lost a lot of combo ability, his fair tipper doesn't launch for combos anymore, tech-chasing after grabs is effectively out, and his dominating edgeguarding game is more or less completely gone. The whole game engine just raped him like crazy, and what did he get in return? Hehe... nothing I can think of.

[NinesTempest]

A better ^B, tipper Fsmash still kills @ low % (lowest I've seen is 68%, and Ike can barely do that) and his neutral B is a stab.

=X So it isn't very much O_X

[ArmusIctus]

-_- Are you saying that because you constantly lose to Marth? I play Marth a lot of the time. So does my friend. I kicked his ass with Pichu. It's skill, not character my friend. My friend wasn't that bad either, he just spammed smash attacks and was predictable.

[RadicallyDreaming]

High level Marth players in SSBM don't just fsmash repeatedly. It just doesn't work.

[Jojahfltbwlr]

As a Marth main promise I know this =P SSBM same as SSBB wasn't created for strictly for competative players. A casual SSBM gamer doesn't know what wavedash means or understand the difference l-cancel could make. Advanced techs aside, Fsmash marth was "frustrating" and "cheap", things nintendo was trying to avoid this time. Most casual players will not pick up on the diminishing returns, but will be conditioned naturally to play mixing up many moves because of the systems effects on spamming.

[Hawke90]

lol Azen.

but even he doesn't spam it, just uses it more than others...

[DreadlordSanta]

Look up the Drephen(Marth) vs. Darkrain(Falcon) series. It's pretty sad that you can actually spam Fsmash effectively enough to win rounds off of Darkrain...

[Jojahfltbwlr]

Thats my point, hes not making good use of it because he's using it too much. The diminished returns of repeatedly using the same attacks punishes spammers. It means more emphasis on what moves should be approach, damage, combo, or KO, and better players will correctly use or attempt to set up a move of that nature. For example those Marth players in SSBM who just FSmash repeatedly effectively using his range will have a harder time winning, the 3rd does about half damage and knockback.

[Jojahfltbwlr]

He pushes the UpB on his opponent too much/early. The emphasized diminishing returns in Brawl is giving him problems. In brawl if you use the same move repeatedly it drops in % and knockback each successive time used. In earlier match this was obvious, he UpB pit 3 or 4 times over 100% but cause he didn't do anything in between, even the 150%+ last UpB didn't kill. If he did a little more % before the first UpB he would've killed pit efficiently and put % up on the next stock

[RadicallyDreaming]

DC's Up-Bing has a purpose. He's not just randomly using the move.

[magnomanx]

That doesn't mean he's not using it TOO much (and too predictably)

[Sturminator10]

i fuckin love that marth

[AsylumSmash]

Very consistant

[magnomanx]

It's easy to see when the next Dolphin Slash is coming.

[Oneilius]

whats the dolphin slash? who's move is it?

[RasenShuuriken]

Dolphin Slash is marths up-b move

[magnomanx]

UpB

[Hikusaak2]

Is this video speed up or is it this fast on 60 hz? I played on 50 Hz today and it felt a lot slower than 50 Hz usually feels in Melee so I thought 60 would also feel liek a slowdown. But if it plays like this then it's probably good.

[SmashCake]

Hz? wtf are you smokin'?

[TimeSpaceMage]

Japan uses 60 Hertz; these players just know how to move quickly =P

[OverlordFayt]

great to see marth still has great potential.

[Juggleguy007]

Haha, they tried tech chasing but forgot that dash dancing was changed. I'm still pissed about that.

[dem0nhamm3r]

Game just came out and theres already competitive play out there.

Yay!

[estebanchaidez]

good marth combos. ^_^

[aznseal]

Needs more Ken Combo

[dskye]

The hit stun and knockback of forward-air is different now, so I don't think Ken Combos are possible.

[aznseal]

Needs more Ken Combo.

[SamoDaJerbal]

Does anyone else really, really hate how DC plays?

It annoys me really, really badly for some reason.

[darliben]

Marth, in general, is annoying, IMO.

[lazychi]

well overall not really besides the B-Up, I mean its a good punish move and i dont mind him using it but... theres just something about it that annoys me haha

[DreadlordSanta]

His playstyle annoys me because somehow he still tries to edgeguard like in Melee. I mean, he HAS to have realized that it really doesn't work anymore by the point he played these matches...

[Kiyosuki]

I guess old habits die hard for some.

[gundamxzero3]

well dude these are pro players, im sure there doin the best they can. if someone gave me brawl after playin melee i would do the same thing, and when i play brawl i will, cuz i dont know how to play brawl yet.

[klixe]

Marth is a force to be reckoned with

[Computer1992]

too much dolphin slash. i don't think its THAT reliable