Are all none Christians going to hell? Dr. Ravi Zacharias Respond

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

So is the answer to the mans question yes or no? o_0

[bailong329]

@newfagscanttrif0rce He is basically saying that whether or not you go to hell ( from the mortal perspective)is based on a presumption that the scriptures indicate that god judges the non- believer based on his faith rather then how he has lived. Faith is key to salvation, yes and if you have faith then you should trust him but if the way you live doesn't match the ethics of what you believe then Christian or not you have to answer to that. Therefore God decides who goes to heaven and who doesnt

[bailong329]

@bailong329 he was also pointing out that asking another mortal on what his judgement is going to be would be like a person watching a trial and before the first arguments are made he decides if the man is guilty or innocent when no evidence has been presented. Thats why he ended his answer the way he did. He was saying its not for him to decide its for god to decide.

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

@bailong329

So bascially, the answer is yes, but you are too afraid to admit it? Fuck, God is a cunt.

[bailong329]

@newfagscanttrif0rce No the answer is its not up to him and its not up to you, and calling God a cunt aint going to make any difference.

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

@bailong329

And its not up to your god either. Who made him boss? He can mind his own fucking business. Who does he think he is? Don't be afraid of the imaginary man in the sky bro...

[bailong329]

@newfagscanttrif0rce Let me reverse that question who made you boss? Who do you think you are? God was the first one there and you wouldn't exist unless he existed first so that makes him the boss. Who is the boss of a brand new company, the CEO who created the company or the employee? Obviously its the CEO the employee should just be greatful he got hired.Who does he think he is? He is the one that made everything possible and even governs whats moral and whats not.

[newfagscanttrif0rce]

@bailong329

God not found; insert evidence. More importantly, I do not recognize anybodys right to own me including your evil god character. Do you understand how wicked you sound?

[TheHigherVoltage]

@newfagscanttrif0rce He can't answer it directly...or honestly. Bible mythology claims only baptism, belief that Jesus was the son of a God, and acceptance of the Holy Spirit (whatever that's suppose to be) gives you a chance (not a guarantee, but a chance) at heaven.

According to Revelations, only 144,000 humans are getting into heaven.

[Colossihitman]

@TheHigherVoltage That's wrong doctrine you've heard or been taught, all shall be saved who call upon Jesus as Lord & Saviour, declare it with there mouths & believe it in there hearts, he died & rose again, it's Gods desire that none should perish, just acknowledge all Jesus as done & accept the free gift of grace, it's unlimited! :-)

[TheHigherVoltage]

@Colossihitman I don't know what doctrine you're following, but it's not biblical.

"Not everyone who keeps saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will get into the kingdom of heaven, but only the person who keeps doing the will of my Father in heaven." Matthew 7:21.

"it's Gods desire that none should perish". Once again, not bible doctrine or factual reality. eg. The only way to be 'saved' from biblegod's wrath is if we are exposed to bible mythology (and chose to believe it) in the first place.

[TheHigherVoltage]

@Colossihitman (CONT) More to the point...justice is not 'anything you do is forgivable', nor is 'all evil is equal'. eg. Having sexual thoughts is not equal to raping and killing someone. Nor is justice infinite torture for a finite crime.

Love is not "do exactly what I say or I will make sure you're lit on fire"

I was raised on this - I believed it. Fortunately, I realized that IF there are real God(s) - they aren't found in man-made, man-run godcults like Christianity.

[Mee551able]

Thats evolution for you mate

[HushAndLearn]

@Mee551able -I am not evolutionists. Are you? I am obviously a Creationist.

Kind regards.

[HushAndLearn]

@Mee551able -I am surely not for primordial slime!

[Mee551able]

@HushAndLearn ?