Commodore 65 (C65 aka C64DX) In Action

[jesuszafra]

c64 = c65*

[jesuszafra]

Didn't knew that c65 had that go64 mode like the c128, that's cool! By the way I though C64DX (more exactly DX64) was a version of the portable SX64 but with double floppy unit (never released, only a prototype)... so... are you sure the c64 was aka C64DX? Nice video.

[PaulGardnerStephen]

@jesuszafra Ah, you have stumbled on one of Commodore's infamous cost-saving schemes. Only very few DX64 dual-drive SX64s were ever made, and they had the labels laying around, and decided that they would use them for the C65, which then got rechristened C64DX. This is not dissimilar to the way the VIC20 case mould was reused for the C64 for several years. So, yes, C65 == C64DX, but C64DX != DX64, even though the final release stickers would have been identical at the outset.

[jesuszafra]

@PaulGardnerStephen very interesting info, thanks Paul!

[naix77]

How much do you want for it? Really, how much?

[PaulGardnerStephen]

@naix77 sorry, you are too late. I actually made these videos at the time I was selling it to a collector to fund some humanitarian work I am doing.

[justaguythinking]

the c65 would have made a good computer if it was released in 1987 or 1988 to replace the c128.

[DevilMaster]

Could you upload a video where your C65 runs the GFXDEMO1 program from toxic-waste.de/c65/ and you measure how long it takes to run?

[PaulGardnerStephen]

@DevilMaster unfortunately I nolonger have the C65, so I cannot run anything on it. There is a C65 group on facebook that you might visit to ask this question.

[rovku]

I am so incredibly jealous of you.  Yours seem fairly stable, have you dumped the ROMs?

[SinistaN]

commodore usa should be working with whoever needed on trying to recreate this instead of pc clones in a breadbox.

[TheInformalstyle]

Wow I never even knew Commodore released a C65 I thought they went straight from C64->Amiga via Plus/4 and C16. Was this some sort of spin off from the technology they acquired when they bought Amiga Inc?

[henrikmk]

@TheInformalstyle It was never released, but cancelled (surprise) in a late stage. It was a project started in the late 80s to make a C64 compatible near-Amiga class low-cost 8-bit machine. Some prototypes were made and this video shows one of them. AFAIK, they don't all function identically, so not much software exist for them.

[supahdupahguy81]

I suspect the answer would be no due to it's rarity but has anyone tried to make an emulator for the c65????

[Clay3613]

Star Trek fonts and color text?

[xadam2dudex]

what was the cpu on this a 65816 ? commodore should have used it in a c64 replacement instead of the c128

[PaulGardnerStephen]

@xadam2dudex it used a 4510. The C128 was released in 1984/1985, while the C65 was not even commenced as a project until some time after 1987, certainly not until after the release of the Amiga 500.

[emceeL]

W....T.....F is this.........

[temannopellaria]

How much a commodore 65?

[greyhoundgill]

@temannopellaria 1000 to 10,000 $. and they are so rare if i was you id get something a little more common like the commodore 128 which played both c64 and 128 games

[temannopellaria]

@greyhoundgill

Oh my god!Thank you very much.XD

[PaulGardnerStephen]

@greyhoundgill @temannopellaria actually the go more like $20,000+ if they work.

[adric22]

Too bad you couldn't get rid of the CRT refresh.

[edzzzwin]

Omg, the news of the C=65 was like a dream come true for me in those days.. Another reason NOT to buy Amiga, PC or one of those 16-bit game-consoles. But I had to stick to C=64, and I still do that. Right on.

[maiki60fps]

@edzzzwin As a video games player, who would have bought Amiga anyway... I had a friend he was gaming on C-64 and the arcades, then he bought Amiga but quickly sold it saying it was not a great improvement he expected and went for SNES instead.. he still kept his C-64 though... and I am very proud that I strictly ignored anything labeled ST Amiga or 286/386 on it... 90s were the decade of Mega Drive and Playstation!!!

[richardmaudsley77]

@maiki60fps Lol what. The megadrive was worse than the amiga. Sure, there was sonic, and...?

[thearchiveable]

Amazing machine. Can we re-create something like this?

[PaulGardnerStephen]

@thearchiveable yes, it would be possible to recreate this using FPGAs.  In fact, the C1 reconfigurable computer may be powerful enough to implement its functions.

[Rockythefishman]

I want one :)

[jasonllapp]

so what is your highest offer?

[PaulGardnerStephen]

Hi @jasonllapp, the C65 was sold a few days ago for AUD$15,000, which is about E10.000 or US$13,000. As far as I am aware, this is the most a C65 has ever sold for.

[djdavedoc]

You lucky LUCKY man!! :) What a machine to have!

[vk4akp]

I so wish CBM had kept going!. Amazing company!.

IBM Sux Arse! ;) .-.-.

[aseglkj]

@vk4akp um, cbm couldn't keep going because they did crap like this. instead of continuing to develop the amiga, they wasted resources on pointless projects like the c128, the c65, the a600. because of this, they just couldn't keep up with PC development. how long did it take for them to get the aga chipset out? and it still was worse than VGA :/

[summer20105707]

@aseglkj

The C128 was supposed to be a stop gap between the 64 and Amiga. I owned both a 64 and an Amiga and I have to say I liked them both. The 128 had a whole new set of basic commands that didn't exist on the 64 and this would have been good for people who liked working with basic for ease of use. I liked my 128, but more people used it as a 64. So in that sense the 128 wasn't a complete failure. But my Amigas were awesome. They were a tone of fun with good graphics.

[spacehelmetforacow]

@vk4akp Agreed. Had CBM had more competent management, Amiga would have become the dominant standard, rather than Wintel...

[oldtwins]

@spacehelmetforacow I don't think Amiga would have been where the PC is because of the open standards of PCs, just a matter of time before dominance occured. However, it would have certainly burried the Mac so badly that Apple would've gone belly-up a long long time ago. Macs were really just hardware poor devices coupled with an antiquated OS, driven entirely by marketing propoganda.

[spacehelmetforacow]

@oldtwins I agree on the part about Macs being meh machines at best, but had CBM marketed Amiga machines and managed to get them as entrenched as the C64, wintel wouldn't be nearly as dominant as it is today. It'd probably still have become the standard eventually, but it would've put a damper on Microsoft's "embrace extend extinguish" tactic through most of the 90s...

[JazzHill]

how much does it costs?

[JazzHill]

@JazzHill *cost

[PaulGardnerStephen]

Hi @JazzHill,

C65s usually go for somewhere between US$1,000 and US$10,000 depending on condition and operability. This one works is as fully operational as any C65 prototype that I am aware of. I am inviting people to make private offers which I will then consider.

Paul.

[defguide75]

Nice to see the C65 actually running some software in a video. Ta for uploading!

[thescream7777]

He must be Maxwell Smart.

[PaulGardnerStephen]

Lucky rather than rich :) I got it back in 1994 from my German software retailer when Commodore went bust.

[R33Racer]

Christ, how the hell did you manage to get hold of one of these???

Your either rich or VERY lucky. =P