Like someone posted before, Defraging SSDs is stupid, SSD have only a certain amount of read and writes they can make in thier life time before the drive will start to fail and get corrupted files consistently. by defraging the SSDs it takes up a lot of the read/writes that are available. hope that makes sense to all.
If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will wearout sooner.
The reason to defragment drives is to make the data sequential since classic drives have to move a the read / write head around if the data is all over the place.
Defragging a SSD or SSD array won't have an effect, they just did it to show how fast it can be done.
This "experiment" idea is interesting, but it fails to impress me.
It would be interesting if he ran something like iozone (no idea if there's a Windows version of that) which basically rapes the machine while doing the benchmark.
sequential read & sequential write would be easy enough, probably 40 disks or so, but access times and random read & writes would probably be physically impossible to match.
The so-called IT genius doesn't seem like much of a genius. You don't need 24 drives to hit 2 GB/s. The RAID card he's using is on an PCI-E 1.0 x8 slot which peaks at 2 GB/s, which is why his speed is so low for so many drives. Without that limitation, he'd get up to 5280 GB/s with those drives. He actually only needs around 10 of those drives to saturate the PCI-E bus bandwidth and get the same speed he's getting.
Not to mention the idiot defragged an SSD. Something you just don't do.
Saying its about the seek times is misleading. It's not that SSDs only get a negligible gain from defrag; they get no gain. HDDs have to physically seek to the various parts of a fragmented (broken up) file. Defragging pieces them back together so it doesn't need to do this. SSDs dont physically seek to anything and access any part of their internal memory instantaneously since its all stored electronically.
Furthermore SSDs have limited write cycles like you said and defragging wears them down
so if i have a usb drive which uses flash memory and ill use it for readyboost which causes loads of writes my usb gets destroyed O_o? (sorry for the late reply they yt thing didnt say anything)
hey asshat. if hes not gonna use pci-e, then what? good luck finding a raidcontroller with 24 ports who can go higher. you cant run two card in the same raid configuration.
And I don't understand how jumping with the drives in the hand would freeze WMP Visualizations. It's being rendered in real time, and not played from any of the SSDs at the time he's jumping.
@NeffiStar Granted one defrag across 24 drives for the purpose of demonstration isn't going to make the SSD's explode or anything. Though it demo's the speed of the drives, it does also propagate the idea that it's harmless to defragment SSD's.
@NeffiStar Ahm you are wrong, what do you think what the speed of a ssd is like? if 24 ssds are supposed to get 5280 GB/s, then 1 ssd would have to be able to beat the speed of 220GB/s.Actually even if they were extremely fast for 2009 they would have been maxed out at lets say 300MB/s/SSD->7,2GB/s. And then why do you think it they were using the 8.0 Slot? Theres no implication they werent using the 16x slot, and then again if it was PCI-E2.0 the discussion is pointless again...
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wyattorr820 4 weeks ago
What's the music at 00:35?
BestGazaVid 2 months ago
i have 2gb /s with 1 ssd lol
3dfxLover 3 months ago
OMG!
subahaki 3 months ago
Which modell of SSD is that?
theDJille 5 months ago
You do NEVER EVER defragment SSDs
jsuelwald 6 months ago
now you can do it with 4 ssd vertex 3 on a good controller card
F9V 8 months ago
1 fault 6TB lost. Great Idea man go on ;)
conroe81 10 months ago
could you imagine if the ssd's broke when he was jumping with them
bradleya172 10 months ago
Like someone posted before, Defraging SSDs is stupid, SSD have only a certain amount of read and writes they can make in thier life time before the drive will start to fail and get corrupted files consistently. by defraging the SSDs it takes up a lot of the read/writes that are available. hope that makes sense to all.
faumyian 1 year ago
@faumyian actually the problem is writing, not reading
ice0cold0eu 10 months ago
hey there IT Idiot....you fucking defraged your ssd. you fucked up its lifetime
LostSubscriber 1 year ago
LMAO....
Nowadays you can get over 2GB per second with only 4 SSD's! xD
BKsMassive 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure that I have the same case haha, but my LEDs are blue
Meelad360 1 year ago
If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will wearout sooner.
denzel786 1 year ago
I guess it's good to see it done just because it can be.
alexbwang 1 year ago
i thought you weren't supposed to defrag SSD
xover76 1 year ago
The reason to defragment drives is to make the data sequential since classic drives have to move a the read / write head around if the data is all over the place.
Defragging a SSD or SSD array won't have an effect, they just did it to show how fast it can be done.
compositegal85 1 year ago
This "experiment" idea is interesting, but it fails to impress me.
It would be interesting if he ran something like iozone (no idea if there's a Windows version of that) which basically rapes the machine while doing the benchmark.
qopha 1 year ago
Lagged the crysis :D
dragonplatform 2 years ago
Woah. I wouldn't want the bill for the electricity though. xD
Netbug009 2 years ago
@Netbug009 : Hey, just 2000 Watts xD
TheLotharable 2 years ago
but samsung drivers are total crap and super slow compared to intel x25m or e, thats why apple uses samsung drives coz they are cheap
lawrencezig93 2 years ago
@lawrencezig93 ...Apple uses Intel drives.
Netbug009 2 years ago
i wonder how many hard drives you would need to get the same results.
Richy0326 2 years ago
I 'spose a decent amount of top of range Hard disk drives would achieve same performance (in RAID)
not too sure.
relemar 2 years ago
sequential read & sequential write would be easy enough, probably 40 disks or so, but access times and random read & writes would probably be physically impossible to match.
Richy0326 2 years ago
thats like $18000+ in equipment LOL
TheChip315 2 years ago
WHRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?
canceroustroll 2 years ago
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FALSO !!!!
per l'apertura delle applicazioni si utilizza RAM e non HD.
unverofalso 2 years ago
ahahahha vai a studiare vai!!
w3nss 2 years ago
windows ha dei delay da rispettare, il 2gb di velocità è dato dal trasferimento dati, non dalla apertura della applicazioni!!!
provate a spostare 100 gb al posto di aprire 100 programmi.
i giochi !!! usano la video non hd !!!! mnuaumamuamuamu !!!!!
studiosi........
unverofalso 2 years ago
with that F%#$ing fast SSD's, you don't need RAM at all... lols..
it was awesome!
cyther39 2 years ago
The so-called IT genius doesn't seem like much of a genius. You don't need 24 drives to hit 2 GB/s. The RAID card he's using is on an PCI-E 1.0 x8 slot which peaks at 2 GB/s, which is why his speed is so low for so many drives. Without that limitation, he'd get up to 5280 GB/s with those drives. He actually only needs around 10 of those drives to saturate the PCI-E bus bandwidth and get the same speed he's getting.
Not to mention the idiot defragged an SSD. Something you just don't do.
NeffiStar 2 years ago 28
Sorry, 5280 MB/s.
NeffiStar 2 years ago
why shouldnt you defrag them?
uut0 2 years ago
For one, you don't need to with the seek times on SSDs.
Second, you can only write to a sector on an SSD so many times. Defragging a disk causes many, many writes.
- As far as I know anyway :)
HekiShavik 2 years ago 3
Oh, this is a reply to uut0 below
> why shouldnt you defrag them?
HekiShavik 2 years ago
Saying its about the seek times is misleading. It's not that SSDs only get a negligible gain from defrag; they get no gain. HDDs have to physically seek to the various parts of a fragmented (broken up) file. Defragging pieces them back together so it doesn't need to do this. SSDs dont physically seek to anything and access any part of their internal memory instantaneously since its all stored electronically.
Furthermore SSDs have limited write cycles like you said and defragging wears them down
NeffiStar 2 years ago 2
I didn't know what else to call it. It's down to some nano seconds like RAM anyway.
But your explanation is good and covering the subject nicely :)
HekiShavik 2 years ago
so if i have a usb drive which uses flash memory and ill use it for readyboost which causes loads of writes my usb gets destroyed O_o? (sorry for the late reply they yt thing didnt say anything)
uut0 2 years ago
hey asshat. if hes not gonna use pci-e, then what? good luck finding a raidcontroller with 24 ports who can go higher. you cant run two card in the same raid configuration.
lucianos1990 2 years ago
they have 24 port sata raid cards
tenshitaiakuma 2 years ago
yes i know, in pci-e.
but nothing else then pci-e.
THATS my point. :)
lucianos1990 2 years ago
ur right thou,, but it was awesome!!
cyther39 2 years ago
only eight vertex drives
tenshitaiakuma 2 years ago
Thanks for your comment NeffiStar.
You so PWNED "PAUL"...
And I don't understand how jumping with the drives in the hand would freeze WMP Visualizations. It's being rendered in real time, and not played from any of the SSDs at the time he's jumping.
REDxFROG 2 years ago
@NeffiStar
It's 5280MB/s or ~5.2GB/s lol... get your units right :P
But wow.. can you imagine a computer / drive setup that could process 5000+ "GB" /s?!! That'd be aweeesome :]
thelegendbullet937 1 year ago 2
@NeffiStar Granted one defrag across 24 drives for the purpose of demonstration isn't going to make the SSD's explode or anything. Though it demo's the speed of the drives, it does also propagate the idea that it's harmless to defragment SSD's.
VandiverMichael 1 year ago
@NeffiStar Ahm you are wrong, what do you think what the speed of a ssd is like? if 24 ssds are supposed to get 5280 GB/s, then 1 ssd would have to be able to beat the speed of 220GB/s.Actually even if they were extremely fast for 2009 they would have been maxed out at lets say 300MB/s/SSD->7,2GB/s. And then why do you think it they were using the 8.0 Slot? Theres no implication they werent using the 16x slot, and then again if it was PCI-E2.0 the discussion is pointless again...
flasher395 2 weeks ago
Don't you hate when people steal other people's videos on youtube?
hcitecnarf 2 years ago 25
fucking awesome
Neuferkar1980 2 years ago
I'm jealous.
Flush333 2 years ago
nice very nice pc
ChriZGW 2 years ago
sick.
ImProviserSRB 2 years ago
lol real nice PC xD
ChriZGW 2 years ago
DONT STEAL OTHERS MATERIAL!!
lucianos1990 2 years ago
i got to get me one of those XD
VViitard 2 years ago
Christ, they have quite a damn budget, jsut the damn mobo costs $600. Plus the drives, which probably costs a couple hundred dollars each
THEPANTSWEREDEAD 2 years ago
You're forgetting a few thing there ;)
All prices from newegg in $
~1500 for a 24 port raid card
~3100 for the processors
~600 for the motherboard
~840 for the graphics cards
~100 for the RAM
~500 for the PSUs
The drives are ~£400-£500 each and not on new egg so if we say ~430 each that gives us
So $16960 not including the SAS cables, monitor, case (looks like a silverstone but I'm not too sure) etc
spamy97 2 years ago 3
Hot damn, I guess I did forget a few things. The case is a thermaltake Armor 1st gen BTW.
THEPANTSWEREDEAD 2 years ago
eek.
still, fuckin epic!
hairyneil 2 years ago
that's was so awesome
your "PC" Rock'ssss
adoborules23 2 years ago
w0000t that's sick
veraleone 2 years ago
That's so awesome
ZOnikJJ 2 years ago
Epic.
inkofdeath230 2 years ago