Beware of these scare tactics for they are almost always a twist on the truth and distortion of the facts. I "believe" this was nothing but a ploy from the radio show to boost their numbers and once again pray on those that do not verify for them selves the information they are shoveled.
go to snoops.com and research this IT IS A F-ING HOAX.
obamacare should be repealed--The marxist monkey in the white house is destroying America!!!--I will be so glad when this jug eared communist is gone in NOVEMBER!
It's amazing how this Right-Wingers want to deny Health Care for the uninsured because it's expensive but when it comes to the Right to die to try to save Money that's when this Right-Wingers don't seem to care about money anynore typical Right-Wing Hypocrites.
@LesterManio And it's amazing how many liberal leftist a-holes like this socialist pig, feel they're entitled to be taken care of from cradle to grave using my tax dollars! Alright genius, show us exactly where in the constitution your Marxist community organizer has the right to force us into a contract & purchase a service or product from a private company? Guess what shit for brains, it's not in there! Now please move to Cuba & see how great communist run healthcare really is! Piss off sheep!
@LesterManio That's a good Point my mom has been working for a Private Hospital Since 1990 and they Flip Switches everyday as i once told my mom i hope there Flipping Switches, to ease the pain a bit i hope there not pulling switched because of money, but if they are i told my mother that i will not judge them for it.
@LesterManio if someone wants to die they can make that decision if someone wants to be good and help others that's their decision to make not government
@auntmonkey1st Hey buddy boy the sooner you learn that this president is no damn good, the better off you will be.This will affect you also, I am a senior and they, this administration ,is out to rid the seniors from 60 on up as worthless people who are of no use anymore. This president will not and I say WILL NOT, be re-elected,come Nov.2012.
@catharine1967 - @catharine1967 - That's euthanasia, not mandated, and not in the US healthcare bill. Check wikipedia and search for "Euthanasia Netherlands"
@malibubarrbie - To expect the public statements & propaganda from any organization to sync up with what goes on in behind closed doors meetings which the public is not privvy to is pretty naive, The fact is that rationing is already going on with prescription coverage, I can attest to that. It's going to extend to every area of healthcare. The poor & the eldery will be the first to see & take the hits, but eventually anyone not living up to some predetermined gold standard will see the light.
@cheermagazine Sheeple: Let me also enlighten you further, that is you will listen.
There is also a tax in the Health Care bill that will charge you 10% on the sale of all Real Estate transactions in 2012 and beyond
You aint seen nothing yet from this bill, welcome to Socialism, apparently you voted for it (him). It all will be ushered in after the election, just you wait.
@cislander44 Well said! But then again, fools like this, voted for Obama in the first place! Now they want us to believe that his unconstitutional massive government take over of our healthcare system, isn't what it appears to be! cheermmagzine is the last person I would ever listen to!
@cislander44 Sort of; it's a capital gains tax that's applied on profits over $250,000 per individual or $500,000 for couples who own a residential property and the tax is 3.8%. That said, I have read the portion of the bill that deals with the "death panels". It is a bit nebulous, leaving it open for "interpretation". I will try to find it, again and post it for you all. There are many other non-health care related things in this rotten piece of legislation.
@TrampledRights Seems the took out the nebulous language because it "was confusing and might be improperly implemented because of that" or language to that effect. Grassley was the one who affected the removal of the language.
@TrampledRights - Section 1233 last I heard. It's actually an option provided by Medicare stating the government will pay once every year for a doctor to counsel his patient on end of life care. This includes concepts such as power of attorney, living wills, treatment options in case of terminal illnes, etc. The government wants to encourage this conversation and is willing to pay for one conversation every year. (Once a year, like they do for screening mammograms) It's not mandated.
Isn't it possible that the AANS were "FORCED" to write a disclaimer. Today, more than ever before, alliances are being formed. Look at the AARP. The claim to have their members best interest as a top priority, then you find that the programs they refer to their members are owned by the heirarchy at AARP( healthcare companies,insurance co.s,service providers,etc)It's all a scam to drain the last penny from the elderly before they die.Obama gives them their piece of the pie, he gets his....VOTES!
Please google "aans not a neurosurgeon mark levin" & regard statement at cns.org website (Congress of Neurological Surgeons). quote: "in conducting our own due diligence, it appears that the caller who identified himself as a brain surgeon may not actually be a neurosurgeon, nor was there any session at the recent Congress of Neurological Surgeons’ scientific meeting in Washington, DC at which a purported government document calling for the rationing of neurosurgical care was discussed."
@rserocki "May not actually" is kind of timid response. I mean, this whole life we see may not actually be real, ask any existentialist. But get a whiff of wasabi up your nose, and you will agree it's actually quite real!
There are two ways to save money after preventive care; with prompt treatment when needed or let people die. DEATH Is cheap.
I'm already see effects of new bureaucracy delaying a new wheelchair cushion and Tegaderm foam bandages for a pressure sore. I'm a paraplegic that worked over 20 years in healthcare for federal VAMC, private HMO and State, all in procurement for pharmaceutical, hospital & medical supplies. The more systems, the longer it takes to get treatment & more expensive it gets.
This is why we can't let corporations and government decide who gets medical care, what kind, or when. No one should have a say in what care an individual gets aside from the patient and the doctor treating them. I've seen the dark side of state and federal medical insurance first hand and seen a lot of others suffer from it, waiting months to get approval for simple treatments they don't want to pay for while quality of life goes down the tubes for the patient. It's bullshit all the way around
The FDA's revoking approval for Avastin has nothing to do with the Affordable Health Care Act. You people are loons. The FDA fast-tracked approval for Avastin for breast cancer, due to public pressure. Post-marketing studies proved that its risks to breast cancer patients outweighed its benefits. If anything, this whole debacle argues against fast-track approvals. Pretty much any woman who takes Avastin for breast cancer is terminal anyway... this whole death panel bullshit is ridiculous.
@BurnTheWiitch Your 28 years old.. I'm 66, and I'm telling you, I've got more to worry about than you, you blithering idiot. I've heard this from doctor friends of mine.. This brain guy.. is just backing up what I've heard before.. You just keep your head under your pillow and stay home on election day.... PLEASE...!!! Your already lost.
@clayguy1 Imagine that! You have 38 years on me, and yet you STILL haven't learned how to spell "you're." PLEASE...!!! Take some anti-psychotic medication before voting. You're a paranoid old fool.
Wiitch, Excuse me.. that's it. your only argument? I made a mistake in my typing and you can't come up with anything better than that? Where do you disagree with what was said in the video? Maybe in another 38 years you may have a real grasp on reality, instead of looking for faults in others. You certainly will be closer to that age where you need to worry about this stuff for real. You have no idea what someone my age puts up with health wise every day. At this age a cold could kill you.
@clayguy1 Clay, Clay, get real. It wasn't a typing error. You're clearly not an educated man. How sad it must be to old, powerless, looking death in the face, and no one even gives you any respect. And then there are those death panels, old to get you. The death panels and the colds.
@BurnTheWiitch How intelligent are you..? You still haven't made an argument against what the Neurosurgeon said, but you lamely lamb onto my misspelled word. What's the matter, are you lacking in the ability to form thought and wisdom on your own? I'm finished with your sorry ass.. You know nothing of me, and I'm so glad I lack knowledge of you. For in that, I'd be waisting my very precious time.
Your one of those argument vultures that linger on Youtube just to pick a verbal fight. I'm done.
@clayguy1 Well, I asked an intelligent question which remains unanswered: What does the Affordable Healthcare Act say about Avastin? And here's another one: How has the FDA approvals process been changed by "Obamacare"? You won't be able to answer these questions, so just go ahead and engage in a little more semi-literate namecalling. It's what you do best!
@BurnTheWiitch Wow! You have the nerve to respond to "clayguy1" and critique his spelling or grammar! Try reading your own responses
Liberals like yourself are despicable creatures that crawl out of the woodwork like cockroaches. Well we're turning the lights on ...so scatter you P.O.S.!!!!
@albermarle19 I constantly get name-calling when I disagee with liberal posts in support of Obama and other Liberal causes on FB. Lets lose the name-calling,, be inclusive in presenting our ideas, and win an the merrits.
@BurnTheWiitch I believe that the consequences the caller asserts are real & inevitable. I know people from the UK who have come to the US to have procedures done 100% self-pay due to years of wait for a procedure, as well as outright denial of coverage. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Insurance bureaucrats have made Obama's plan attractive, but under it, they are doomed.
So well said everyone! No one should be surprised by any of this! I used to point out every time this Marxist that "Occupies" the White House lied, Now, I challenge anyone to prove to me when he's telling the truth about something! They knew damn well what was in that 2700 page bill (that no one was allowed read) before they rammed it through! And the web of crap that comes with it, that will take years to unravel, will collapse to this country! This my friends, is Tyranny 101!
“…under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possible be executed in a kindly manner…”
The Intelligent Woman’s guide to Socialism and Capitalism 1928
@memama2 Never was hiding in small print! obama Appointed FDA Margaret Hamburg, 2009 refused to ban or recall the use of mercury used in dental work known as Amalgam Note: those “silver fillings” aren’t silver. Its mainly mercury ! Time released poison! Information call "1 651 644 4572" "send 4 imfo @ DAMS 1043 Grand Ave, #317 St Paul MN 55105 , Robert B. Reeves The Reeves Law Group Phone: 800-644-8000 or call 1-859-226-9000
This is a good way to kill off the old religious racist. I like it.
TheBeardedMarxist 1 day ago
Beware of these scare tactics for they are almost always a twist on the truth and distortion of the facts. I "believe" this was nothing but a ploy from the radio show to boost their numbers and once again pray on those that do not verify for them selves the information they are shoveled.
go to snoops.com and research this IT IS A F-ING HOAX.
clanharris4 1 week ago
LIES
adv4pats 2 weeks ago
obamacare should be repealed--The marxist monkey in the white house is destroying America!!!--I will be so glad when this jug eared communist is gone in NOVEMBER!
Goldclaw837 3 weeks ago
It's amazing how this Right-Wingers want to deny Health Care for the uninsured because it's expensive but when it comes to the Right to die to try to save Money that's when this Right-Wingers don't seem to care about money anynore typical Right-Wing Hypocrites.
LesterManio 3 weeks ago
@LesterManio And it's amazing how many liberal leftist a-holes like this socialist pig, feel they're entitled to be taken care of from cradle to grave using my tax dollars! Alright genius, show us exactly where in the constitution your Marxist community organizer has the right to force us into a contract & purchase a service or product from a private company? Guess what shit for brains, it's not in there! Now please move to Cuba & see how great communist run healthcare really is! Piss off sheep!
Truthseeker2112 3 weeks ago 2
@Truthseeker2112 Try some actual real information!! go to snopes.com and research this and stop being the LEMMING MORON..
clanharris4 1 week ago
@LesterManio That's a good Point my mom has been working for a Private Hospital Since 1990 and they Flip Switches everyday as i once told my mom i hope there Flipping Switches, to ease the pain a bit i hope there not pulling switched because of money, but if they are i told my mother that i will not judge them for it.
HowardSternn 3 weeks ago
@LesterManio if someone wants to die they can make that decision if someone wants to be good and help others that's their decision to make not government
mrg00ddude 2 weeks ago
Looking at how our Government runs AMTRAK,Social Security,& the Postal Service,how can they want them to run our healthcare system.
dlsofsetx 1 month ago 2
Palin was right. ObaMarx and his Obacare. More like Logan's run huh?
hbrookins1 1 month ago 2
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auntmonkey1st 1 month ago
@auntmonkey1st And you need to stick your head back up Obama's ass! Piss Off Sheep!
Truthseeker2112 1 month ago
@auntmonkey1st Hey buddy boy the sooner you learn that this president is no damn good, the better off you will be.This will affect you also, I am a senior and they, this administration ,is out to rid the seniors from 60 on up as worthless people who are of no use anymore. This president will not and I say WILL NOT, be re-elected,come Nov.2012.
doowopsforever 1 month ago
There won't be any money left for healthcare duh!!! You are being distracted... there won't be any healthcare PERIOD!!
Go2thebeach69 1 month ago
Obama is really evil! Please get a new president!
fintyrock 1 month ago
if fear is satans greatest weapon than obama is his 2nd.
notserenity 1 month ago
in the Netherlands we have the Grim Reaper on wheels for elderly !!!
if they are to "old " like over 60 years having dementia
( but further on physical healthy ) the doctors Grim Reaper car drives by
with a pill for an eternal long long sleep !!! it is sick and disgusting !!!!!
catharine1967 1 month ago
@catharine1967 - @catharine1967 - That's euthanasia, not mandated, and not in the US healthcare bill. Check wikipedia and search for "Euthanasia Netherlands"
wjwolpert 1 month ago
This is very disturbing.
boagmuskie 1 month ago
@malibubarrbie - To expect the public statements & propaganda from any organization to sync up with what goes on in behind closed doors meetings which the public is not privvy to is pretty naive, The fact is that rationing is already going on with prescription coverage, I can attest to that. It's going to extend to every area of healthcare. The poor & the eldery will be the first to see & take the hits, but eventually anyone not living up to some predetermined gold standard will see the light.
ingodsgarden 1 month ago
@malibubarrbie Of course there will be some claiming this is a hoax and of course AANS will refute this. They have to.
warrenherrick 2 months ago
Completely predictable.
xzqzq 2 months ago 4
This is utter bullshit, I have a bridge to sell you if you believe this shit....
cheermagazine 2 months ago
@cheermagazine Sheeple: Let me also enlighten you further, that is you will listen.
There is also a tax in the Health Care bill that will charge you 10% on the sale of all Real Estate transactions in 2012 and beyond
You aint seen nothing yet from this bill, welcome to Socialism, apparently you voted for it (him). It all will be ushered in after the election, just you wait.
cislander44 1 month ago
@cislander44 Well said! But then again, fools like this, voted for Obama in the first place! Now they want us to believe that his unconstitutional massive government take over of our healthcare system, isn't what it appears to be! cheermmagzine is the last person I would ever listen to!
Truthseeker2112 1 month ago
@cislander44 Sort of; it's a capital gains tax that's applied on profits over $250,000 per individual or $500,000 for couples who own a residential property and the tax is 3.8%. That said, I have read the portion of the bill that deals with the "death panels". It is a bit nebulous, leaving it open for "interpretation". I will try to find it, again and post it for you all. There are many other non-health care related things in this rotten piece of legislation.
TrampledRights 1 month ago
@TrampledRights Seems the took out the nebulous language because it "was confusing and might be improperly implemented because of that" or language to that effect. Grassley was the one who affected the removal of the language.
TrampledRights 1 month ago
@TrampledRights - Section 1233 last I heard. It's actually an option provided by Medicare stating the government will pay once every year for a doctor to counsel his patient on end of life care. This includes concepts such as power of attorney, living wills, treatment options in case of terminal illnes, etc. The government wants to encourage this conversation and is willing to pay for one conversation every year. (Once a year, like they do for screening mammograms) It's not mandated.
wjwolpert 1 month ago
@cheermagazine Put it on Ebay! :)
rduke007 1 month ago
obama=charlatan
fortunata91 2 months ago 4
Isn't it possible that the AANS were "FORCED" to write a disclaimer. Today, more than ever before, alliances are being formed. Look at the AARP. The claim to have their members best interest as a top priority, then you find that the programs they refer to their members are owned by the heirarchy at AARP( healthcare companies,insurance co.s,service providers,etc)It's all a scam to drain the last penny from the elderly before they die.Obama gives them their piece of the pie, he gets his....VOTES!
albermarle19 2 months ago
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Please google "aans not a neurosurgeon mark levin" & regard statement at cns.org website (Congress of Neurological Surgeons). quote: "in conducting our own due diligence, it appears that the caller who identified himself as a brain surgeon may not actually be a neurosurgeon, nor was there any session at the recent Congress of Neurological Surgeons’ scientific meeting in Washington, DC at which a purported government document calling for the rationing of neurosurgical care was discussed."
rserocki 2 months ago
@rserocki "May not actually" is kind of timid response. I mean, this whole life we see may not actually be real, ask any existentialist. But get a whiff of wasabi up your nose, and you will agree it's actually quite real!
rduke007 1 month ago
There are two ways to save money after preventive care; with prompt treatment when needed or let people die. DEATH Is cheap.
I'm already see effects of new bureaucracy delaying a new wheelchair cushion and Tegaderm foam bandages for a pressure sore. I'm a paraplegic that worked over 20 years in healthcare for federal VAMC, private HMO and State, all in procurement for pharmaceutical, hospital & medical supplies. The more systems, the longer it takes to get treatment & more expensive it gets.
tokengimp 2 months ago
This is why we can't let corporations and government decide who gets medical care, what kind, or when. No one should have a say in what care an individual gets aside from the patient and the doctor treating them. I've seen the dark side of state and federal medical insurance first hand and seen a lot of others suffer from it, waiting months to get approval for simple treatments they don't want to pay for while quality of life goes down the tubes for the patient. It's bullshit all the way around
Mindcrime121 2 months ago
BurnTheWiitch is a LIAR and a shill for Obama. Doctors disagree
bill07407 3 months ago
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@bill07407 I didn't even vote for Obama.
BurnTheWiitch 2 months ago
The FDA's revoking approval for Avastin has nothing to do with the Affordable Health Care Act. You people are loons. The FDA fast-tracked approval for Avastin for breast cancer, due to public pressure. Post-marketing studies proved that its risks to breast cancer patients outweighed its benefits. If anything, this whole debacle argues against fast-track approvals. Pretty much any woman who takes Avastin for breast cancer is terminal anyway... this whole death panel bullshit is ridiculous.
BurnTheWiitch 3 months ago
@BurnTheWiitch Your 28 years old.. I'm 66, and I'm telling you, I've got more to worry about than you, you blithering idiot. I've heard this from doctor friends of mine.. This brain guy.. is just backing up what I've heard before.. You just keep your head under your pillow and stay home on election day.... PLEASE...!!! Your already lost.
clayguy1 2 months ago
@clayguy1 Imagine that! You have 38 years on me, and yet you STILL haven't learned how to spell "you're." PLEASE...!!! Take some anti-psychotic medication before voting. You're a paranoid old fool.
BurnTheWiitch 2 months ago
Wiitch, Excuse me.. that's it. your only argument? I made a mistake in my typing and you can't come up with anything better than that? Where do you disagree with what was said in the video? Maybe in another 38 years you may have a real grasp on reality, instead of looking for faults in others. You certainly will be closer to that age where you need to worry about this stuff for real. You have no idea what someone my age puts up with health wise every day. At this age a cold could kill you.
clayguy1 2 months ago
@clayguy1 Clay, Clay, get real. It wasn't a typing error. You're clearly not an educated man. How sad it must be to old, powerless, looking death in the face, and no one even gives you any respect. And then there are those death panels, old to get you. The death panels and the colds.
BurnTheWiitch 2 months ago
@BurnTheWiitch How intelligent are you..? You still haven't made an argument against what the Neurosurgeon said, but you lamely lamb onto my misspelled word. What's the matter, are you lacking in the ability to form thought and wisdom on your own? I'm finished with your sorry ass.. You know nothing of me, and I'm so glad I lack knowledge of you. For in that, I'd be waisting my very precious time.
Your one of those argument vultures that linger on Youtube just to pick a verbal fight. I'm done.
clayguy1 2 months ago
@clayguy1 Well, I asked an intelligent question which remains unanswered: What does the Affordable Healthcare Act say about Avastin? And here's another one: How has the FDA approvals process been changed by "Obamacare"? You won't be able to answer these questions, so just go ahead and engage in a little more semi-literate namecalling. It's what you do best!
BurnTheWiitch 2 months ago
@BurnTheWiitch With all due respect, those issues are a distraction to the case-at-bar.
rduke007 1 month ago
@rduke007 I can see how any sort of reality check would be unwelcome.
BurnTheWiitch 2 weeks ago
@BurnTheWiitch Wow! You have the nerve to respond to "clayguy1" and critique his spelling or grammar! Try reading your own responses
Liberals like yourself are despicable creatures that crawl out of the woodwork like cockroaches. Well we're turning the lights on ...so scatter you P.O.S.!!!!
albermarle19 2 months ago 3
@albermarle19 I constantly get name-calling when I disagee with liberal posts in support of Obama and other Liberal causes on FB. Lets lose the name-calling,, be inclusive in presenting our ideas, and win an the merrits.
rduke007 1 month ago
@BurnTheWiitch show some respect stupid fag.. get the hell out of here and go fuck yourself fucking kid piece of shit
mayusmerus 2 months ago
@mayusmerus Why thank you for that thoughtful, insightful response! Indeed, Mark Levin has some classy supporters. Keep up the good work!
BurnTheWiitch 2 months ago
@BurnTheWiitch You too.
rduke007 1 month ago
@clayguy1 Win on ideas, not name calling. We have a merritorious case here.
rduke007 1 month ago
@BurnTheWiitch I believe that the consequences the caller asserts are real & inevitable. I know people from the UK who have come to the US to have procedures done 100% self-pay due to years of wait for a procedure, as well as outright denial of coverage. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Insurance bureaucrats have made Obama's plan attractive, but under it, they are doomed.
rduke007 1 month ago
all I can say - Oh my God.
ViewFromaMountainTop 3 months ago
We passed the bill and now we know what is in it!
We know who passed this lovely bill and we should make sure they get credit for it.
OCnStiggs 3 months ago 2
@OCnStiggs What exactly does the bill say about Avastin and about the procedure used by the FDA for revoking approvals?
BurnTheWiitch 2 months ago
@OCnStiggs They will,in November. Throw the bums out! :)
rduke007 1 month ago
So well said everyone! No one should be surprised by any of this! I used to point out every time this Marxist that "Occupies" the White House lied, Now, I challenge anyone to prove to me when he's telling the truth about something! They knew damn well what was in that 2700 page bill (that no one was allowed read) before they rammed it through! And the web of crap that comes with it, that will take years to unravel, will collapse to this country! This my friends, is Tyranny 101!
Truthseeker2112 3 months ago 12
@Truthseeker2112 Levin lied.
hmagnan 1 month ago
congress and illegal aliens are exempt.
msheidi1 3 months ago 2
Sarah Palin was right and Congress and the white house LIE!
msheidi1 3 months ago
“…under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possible be executed in a kindly manner…”
The Intelligent Woman’s guide to Socialism and Capitalism 1928
Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw
Robodoon 3 months ago
This is what comes of passing a bill without knowing what's in it.
AlwaysOnWatch2 3 months ago 2
..ahhh - finally - the teeny tiny fine print Pelosi said we had to search for!
memama2 3 months ago 10
BruceMichaelAnderson 3 days ago