You know what would raise the level of this discussion? Doing away with anonimity. I, for instance, am Peter Musurlian of Glendale. Anyone here, who does not identify himself or herself, I will presume is on the payroll of the Turkish Government. Those A-holes in Turkey, hire Americans to surf the Internet in order to turn discussion boards into profane, off-the-subject stupidity-fests. If you are not here to hurt the Armenian Cause, identify yourself and make your point.
Who is posting comments here? Turkish-Government employees or Armenians with ADD. Stick to what's important folks: recognition, land & money. What happened to the homes, property, and churches of those killed-on or forced-off their land in 1915? That question is far more important than blaming the GOP or Dems of 1915. Get real folks. Keep your eye on the ball. Time is running out and all the Turks want to do is stall. If the Turks succeed, we'll be discussing the same crap 100years from now.
We believe USA-Turkish-Azerbaijani friendship and alliance is NOT to the national interest of USA. Anybody can innumerate reasons and actual facts. Yet USA-Russian friendship and possible alliance will surely be to the national interest of USA. Think of it.
The ANCA should not let this go until a retraction is issued by the corrupt Executive and State Dept officials.
Also, the Armenian government should should working toward this same goal by speaking up, vociferously, about the biased nature of Bryza and using all the leverage they have to reign the pro-Turkish sentiment of the current US administration.
I don't believe Obama, democrats nor Republicans will ever recognize the Armenian Genocide, since both parties are supported and structured by Zionist. I don't believe there will be a president who will ever stand behind his word, we need to start distrusting those promises. Democrat or Republican is pro Turkey and Azeri.
pakraduni10 has an understanding of how Special Interests control/own both parties and the Media. Therefore whatever government is in power, that party will toe the line of those who dictate to our supposed Republic
which our Forefathers gave us at great sacrifices.
ANCA supports the democrats who also wish to destroy the constitution and have done so if you read the 1962,63 record of the Congress from Helong of Fl. The issues are many from Armenia and the left gives lip service and the right is working for interest of oil which is our life blood, like it or not.
I as a republican have met and blasted my party over these issues. You have not done the same to the Dems. You also supported Obama when he hung out to dry Davit Z in Iowa an innocent Armenian helping David in Cin. We have to hold both sides accountable but you need to clean your house 1st.
Why do you support the left when they are the ones who let the Genocide happen under Woodrow Wilson? Both sides sell out as many Dems have also. They only care about power and will promise anything for power. Do you only care as they do or care about the corrupt Gov. in Yerevan? If we lose our freedom here we will never be able to bring change there.
Let me tell you something Carl. The Wilson administration protested with its loudest voice during the 1915 Armenian Genocide, just like President Roosevelt before during the Himidian Massacres, The Wilson Government during the 1915-1919 years tried its best to protect Ottoman Armenians from Turkish Tyranny but it was your REPUBLICAN congress which refused to take the Armenian Mandate and left Armenia to its fate. Wilson was the best American President who felt our pain and wanted to help.
It is nice how you avoid the issue of Davit and the sell out to Obama. Wilson did nothing when his Ambassador Henry Morgenthau begged Wilson to do something to stop the genocide. Wilson did not care until after and his guilt then kicked in and he tried to form the League of Nations.
And it was the republicans who wanted to do something and Wilson like FDR did not. FDR waited and knew of the Holocaust and thought his allies of Hitler and Stalin would take each other out. Just like a good Dem, socialist. You need to get your facts right. Read the Burning Tigris and Liberal fascism
If you ever get the truth and stop hoping for change and get the facts right then you can get both parties to do the right thing as both like those ruling in Armenia and in ANCA only care about power. we the people here can make change and it is not on party lines but right and wrong. Wake up and hold ANCA, Democrats and Republicans to the truth.
No they do not. You do not have the slightest idea as to what the ANCA does. I invite you to go to their office inside Washington D.C. and get to know the extent of their Patriotic work and its great work to have a great number of U.S. congressmen and senators side with Armenia against overwhelming Turkish power.
I would agree that ANCA does some good work, but face the truth they are in the pocket of the Democrats/ communist. My wife lived under the USSR and many fine Armenians that have come here from 1988 also know the truth. You need to look inside yourself and see the truth. Unless you see how Obama is the most left, person with ties to B Ayer, J Wright a racist, and to deny this is to deny the facts.
Absolutely not, and you could'nt be further from the truth. The ANCA is in no one's pocket, and leave communism in the trash can as the ANCA is a subbody of the ARF! We have been with the ANCA for 25 years now and from your writings it seems you do not have any knowledge regarding it. I could care less about Ayers or Mayers. But would suggest that you open your eyes and see what McCain is supporting (denial of the Genocide). It seems you are more American than Armenian.
Look you will never face the truth so leave it alone ANCA has done some good but also done much harm. I have worked with them to both sides of the left and the right. You say I am not Armenian and you do not know nor can you tell me what I am or can say. I am one of the people Hussein said clings to God and guns and will die fighting all of you communist. And ANCA sold out a innocent Armenian.
cvciii333 let me ask you what are YOU DOING accept talking trash against the most powerful Armenian lobbying entity? Please try to come up with a couple of things if you could. I presume you are a John McCain suppoorter aren't you?
So as it is the most powerful lobby, should I except what they say like the messiah Obama or hold them to account. You might accept both and fall to my knees like you and worship them? No Way. You still will not address what ANCA did by selling out one of their own to Obama on a slow news day. McCain all the way and no obama
Do not play cynical religous rhetoric with me. If you like McCain that much then let me she the son of a bitch accept the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE FACT ! junior!
McCain is the greatest supporter of Turkey and Azerbaijan, and is himself supported by them, so that means you are supporting a PIG who is pro-Turkish, ARE YOU ARMENIAN TO BEGIN WITH? IF YOU ARE SHAME ON YOU!
Many dems support Turkey also and you know this. This one issue is not the only one and if it is your do not have any brains. To surrender freedom to the commie left is sad. The issue of history will never be dealt with then. Just like in the 1800s and the 1915 on every person in the US sent money and did other things. The only way to change what has happened now is to educate people of the facts as I am doing here with you and the A-holes who attack me.
Shame on me for speaking the truth shame on you for denying the truth and selling out even one Armenian. You will not talk about this and I bring you back, shame on you. You are brain washed and to say I support Turkey for showing how Obama and ANCA sold out. I will not defend myself, you need to defend yourself.
Republicans???? yes right!!! please name those Republicans who wanted to help Armenia, The REPUBLICAN CONGRESS refused to accept the Armenian Mandate in 1918, so what the hell are you babbling about?
One Republican is Oregon Solomon Hirsh businessman and politician was just one. Now why do you try to side step what I have asked you? I know you know I am right and you do not wish to admit it. Any time you wish to debate the facts please feel free to contact me as ANCA knows me well. I have lobby on the genocide but do not worship like you. I stand on right and wrong not a puppet for power and communist democrats.
Wow! good for you to name just one certain zionist Solomon Hirsh' now could you tell me junior why the Republicans refused the Mandate of Armenia thus defeating Wilson's plan to rescue our people in 1918?
The republican congress only did this after Wilson did not act when it would have saved lives and the Democrats played politics like they are doing now on every thing. No drilling for oil which would give us independence. Now Armenian is in the pocket of the Russian mafia, or that they did nothing as they said they would in the 1st 100 days and 2 years later have they even got HR 106 through? NO and they could work to do this as both sides only want pork, you know who it works.
well let's wait and see how things change with Obama in power....
luv4knowledge 3 years ago
That is why the Republican lost Armenian's are a power in America and now they got the message all most 2 million srtong with money and power!
If they want our vote and money they will have to support our needs.
kavkaz4life 3 years ago
this man speaks the truth
AKNmlb5 3 years ago
This is outrage. I am Armenian from Baku.
my parents fought for Karabakh. Bush created a empire of evil.
Kortik 3 years ago 2
Thanks ANCA...please people support ANCA
janoz06 3 years ago
You know what would raise the level of this discussion? Doing away with anonimity. I, for instance, am Peter Musurlian of Glendale. Anyone here, who does not identify himself or herself, I will presume is on the payroll of the Turkish Government. Those A-holes in Turkey, hire Americans to surf the Internet in order to turn discussion boards into profane, off-the-subject stupidity-fests. If you are not here to hurt the Armenian Cause, identify yourself and make your point.
301AD 3 years ago 3
who u callin a turk?
ArmoWings 3 years ago 4
Who is posting comments here? Turkish-Government employees or Armenians with ADD. Stick to what's important folks: recognition, land & money. What happened to the homes, property, and churches of those killed-on or forced-off their land in 1915? That question is far more important than blaming the GOP or Dems of 1915. Get real folks. Keep your eye on the ball. Time is running out and all the Turks want to do is stall. If the Turks succeed, we'll be discussing the same crap 100years from now.
301AD 3 years ago
We believe USA-Turkish-Azerbaijani friendship and alliance is NOT to the national interest of USA. Anybody can innumerate reasons and actual facts. Yet USA-Russian friendship and possible alliance will surely be to the national interest of USA. Think of it.
grishdavtian 3 years ago 2
The ANCA should not let this go until a retraction is issued by the corrupt Executive and State Dept officials.
Also, the Armenian government should should working toward this same goal by speaking up, vociferously, about the biased nature of Bryza and using all the leverage they have to reign the pro-Turkish sentiment of the current US administration.
crusader1492 3 years ago 2
Let's face it-U.S. Airbases in Turkey trump siding with the Independence of Armenia. The hypocrisy is so pronounced that it makes me nauseous.
Achig12 3 years ago
I don't believe Obama, democrats nor Republicans will ever recognize the Armenian Genocide, since both parties are supported and structured by Zionist. I don't believe there will be a president who will ever stand behind his word, we need to start distrusting those promises. Democrat or Republican is pro Turkey and Azeri.
pakraduni10 3 years ago 2
pakraduni10 has an understanding of how Special Interests control/own both parties and the Media. Therefore whatever government is in power, that party will toe the line of those who dictate to our supposed Republic
which our Forefathers gave us at great sacrifices.
Achig12 3 years ago
It is nice to see someone uses his head for more then a hat rack. Thank you.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Aram,
ANCA supports the democrats who also wish to destroy the constitution and have done so if you read the 1962,63 record of the Congress from Helong of Fl. The issues are many from Armenia and the left gives lip service and the right is working for interest of oil which is our life blood, like it or not.
cvciii333 3 years ago
I as a republican have met and blasted my party over these issues. You have not done the same to the Dems. You also supported Obama when he hung out to dry Davit Z in Iowa an innocent Armenian helping David in Cin. We have to hold both sides accountable but you need to clean your house 1st.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Why do you support the left when they are the ones who let the Genocide happen under Woodrow Wilson? Both sides sell out as many Dems have also. They only care about power and will promise anything for power. Do you only care as they do or care about the corrupt Gov. in Yerevan? If we lose our freedom here we will never be able to bring change there.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Let me tell you something Carl. The Wilson administration protested with its loudest voice during the 1915 Armenian Genocide, just like President Roosevelt before during the Himidian Massacres, The Wilson Government during the 1915-1919 years tried its best to protect Ottoman Armenians from Turkish Tyranny but it was your REPUBLICAN congress which refused to take the Armenian Mandate and left Armenia to its fate. Wilson was the best American President who felt our pain and wanted to help.
Armenia1968 3 years ago 2
It is nice how you avoid the issue of Davit and the sell out to Obama. Wilson did nothing when his Ambassador Henry Morgenthau begged Wilson to do something to stop the genocide. Wilson did not care until after and his guilt then kicked in and he tried to form the League of Nations.
cvciii333 3 years ago
And it was the republicans who wanted to do something and Wilson like FDR did not. FDR waited and knew of the Holocaust and thought his allies of Hitler and Stalin would take each other out. Just like a good Dem, socialist. You need to get your facts right. Read the Burning Tigris and Liberal fascism
cvciii333 3 years ago
If you ever get the truth and stop hoping for change and get the facts right then you can get both parties to do the right thing as both like those ruling in Armenia and in ANCA only care about power. we the people here can make change and it is not on party lines but right and wrong. Wake up and hold ANCA, Democrats and Republicans to the truth.
cvciii333 3 years ago
No they do not. You do not have the slightest idea as to what the ANCA does. I invite you to go to their office inside Washington D.C. and get to know the extent of their Patriotic work and its great work to have a great number of U.S. congressmen and senators side with Armenia against overwhelming Turkish power.
Armenia1968 3 years ago
I would agree that ANCA does some good work, but face the truth they are in the pocket of the Democrats/ communist. My wife lived under the USSR and many fine Armenians that have come here from 1988 also know the truth. You need to look inside yourself and see the truth. Unless you see how Obama is the most left, person with ties to B Ayer, J Wright a racist, and to deny this is to deny the facts.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Absolutely not, and you could'nt be further from the truth. The ANCA is in no one's pocket, and leave communism in the trash can as the ANCA is a subbody of the ARF! We have been with the ANCA for 25 years now and from your writings it seems you do not have any knowledge regarding it. I could care less about Ayers or Mayers. But would suggest that you open your eyes and see what McCain is supporting (denial of the Genocide). It seems you are more American than Armenian.
Armenia1968 3 years ago
Look you will never face the truth so leave it alone ANCA has done some good but also done much harm. I have worked with them to both sides of the left and the right. You say I am not Armenian and you do not know nor can you tell me what I am or can say. I am one of the people Hussein said clings to God and guns and will die fighting all of you communist. And ANCA sold out a innocent Armenian.
cvciii333 3 years ago
cvciii333 let me ask you what are YOU DOING accept talking trash against the most powerful Armenian lobbying entity? Please try to come up with a couple of things if you could. I presume you are a John McCain suppoorter aren't you?
Armenia1968 3 years ago 2
So as it is the most powerful lobby, should I except what they say like the messiah Obama or hold them to account. You might accept both and fall to my knees like you and worship them? No Way. You still will not address what ANCA did by selling out one of their own to Obama on a slow news day. McCain all the way and no obama
cvciii333 3 years ago
Do not play cynical religous rhetoric with me. If you like McCain that much then let me she the son of a bitch accept the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE FACT ! junior!
Armenia1968 3 years ago 2
correction - 'See' and not 'she' in my comment
Armenia1968 3 years ago
So not only are you a racist but also a sexist. A true democrat, nice to see your true face.
cvciii333 3 years ago
McCain is the greatest supporter of Turkey and Azerbaijan, and is himself supported by them, so that means you are supporting a PIG who is pro-Turkish, ARE YOU ARMENIAN TO BEGIN WITH? IF YOU ARE SHAME ON YOU!
Armenia1968 3 years ago 4
Many dems support Turkey also and you know this. This one issue is not the only one and if it is your do not have any brains. To surrender freedom to the commie left is sad. The issue of history will never be dealt with then. Just like in the 1800s and the 1915 on every person in the US sent money and did other things. The only way to change what has happened now is to educate people of the facts as I am doing here with you and the A-holes who attack me.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Shame on me for speaking the truth shame on you for denying the truth and selling out even one Armenian. You will not talk about this and I bring you back, shame on you. You are brain washed and to say I support Turkey for showing how Obama and ANCA sold out. I will not defend myself, you need to defend yourself.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Republicans???? yes right!!! please name those Republicans who wanted to help Armenia, The REPUBLICAN CONGRESS refused to accept the Armenian Mandate in 1918, so what the hell are you babbling about?
Armenia1968 3 years ago 4
One Republican is Oregon Solomon Hirsh businessman and politician was just one. Now why do you try to side step what I have asked you? I know you know I am right and you do not wish to admit it. Any time you wish to debate the facts please feel free to contact me as ANCA knows me well. I have lobby on the genocide but do not worship like you. I stand on right and wrong not a puppet for power and communist democrats.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Wow! good for you to name just one certain zionist Solomon Hirsh' now could you tell me junior why the Republicans refused the Mandate of Armenia thus defeating Wilson's plan to rescue our people in 1918?
Armenia1968 3 years ago 6
The republican congress only did this after Wilson did not act when it would have saved lives and the Democrats played politics like they are doing now on every thing. No drilling for oil which would give us independence. Now Armenian is in the pocket of the Russian mafia, or that they did nothing as they said they would in the 1st 100 days and 2 years later have they even got HR 106 through? NO and they could work to do this as both sides only want pork, you know who it works.
cvciii333 3 years ago
Great Aram,
Let the nay sayers tremble to ANCA's wrath of truth,human rights, democracy, and the American way.
Where has our democracy gone?
Many other countries seem to be more democratic then the U.S., which is sad to say.
Keep hope alive!
sarkishiking 3 years ago 3
Thanks, as always, ANCA...for being at the forefront of issues impacting Armenians around the globe.
301AD 3 years ago 3