There are those who believe that the hidden agenda of F&F was to funnel guns to Hamas via the cartels, and that it came from the highest level of the Obama admin.
Obama, Hillary and the Mexican President called for a gun ban because US guns were being used in Mexican drug dealers and they did this long before this story broke. Lies because Obama sold these guns just so he could impose a gun ban Murder 1 Obama, the commie cost a border agent his life
@theylied1776 and were did you get you information from? When the ATF’s Project Gunrunner began in 2005 under the Bush administration, the agency didn’t allow guns to be taken over the border into Mexico. Under President Barack Obama, the agency not only allowed the illegal sale of American guns but also allowed them to leave the United States and fall into cartel hands. Libturd tactics?
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@BarryDead Right! nice try. the testimony given in the hearing today about "project gun runner/fast and furious" by the four ATF agents are a matter of public record,
Where did I get my information? you do know that there are about 10 cable channels dedicated solely to Gov't right? the most popular is called C-SPAN. there's even a youtube channel called "oversightandreform" where you can watch some of the hearing.
@theylied1776 They were started as buy busts. They did not allow guns to continue to be transported across the boarders. This took it to a whole new level.
@theylied1776 an agent died with one of those guns, someone should be charged. Agents said that the policy changed under holder and allowed the guns to get through. Holders second said that no guns got through. Someone will get charged even if for stonewalling
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@themunz126 Yes, an agent did get killed and like I wrote before, after this inquiry is complete let's see who gets charged. after all... this has been going on since 2007!
I'm not willing to jump to a conclusion solely based on a rumor or hearsay from a website.
@theylied1776 Nope WRONG again! The agents report that the illegal guns began to "walk" in 2009 under the OBAMA administration. You need to stop watching the liberal MSNBC tabloid-TV entertainment channel.
By the way, the e-mails have now been released showing that Obama and his DOJ LIED and are right in the middle of this mess. We can blame you for the death of agent Brian Terry because you voted for Obama.
@theylied1776 Sorry, you can't blame Bush. The Obama administration has handed out 2500 assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels like they were candy on Halloween. Both memos and e-mails clearly show the DOJ, Holder, and Obama connection. ATF agents report that they first started to "let the guns walk in 2009."
Your false prophet, incompetent Obama, knew about and approved passing out guns to criminals. No matter how much you cry, you cannot change these immutable facts. Deal with it.
I'm not blaming you, dipshit. I'm blaming the BATFE and the current administration because 2500 assault weapons "walked" on their watch. Learn to read.
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@RadarGuidedVermin Why don't you read your own post,"We can blame you for the death of agent Brian Terry because you voted for Obama". not only are you a dumb ass but now you're also a Liar!
Again, where can I find these "so called" E-mails sent by Obama showing that he's in the middle of this mess?
These Guns were sold to these Mexican criminals during the Bush administration, under the name of "Operation Gun Runner"!
@theylied1776 Not what I said, dipshit. The operation properly followed straw-purchased firearms, and didn't start letting guns walk (that means break surveillance to let the guns get away) to Mexico until so directed by the CURRENT administration. Blame for Brain Terry's murder rests squarely with the CURRENT administration
Keep FAILING, and while you're at it, LEARN TO READ.
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@RadarGuidedVermin Where can I find this Law that states that it's legal to "SELL" Guns to Mexican nationals? this was an operation(Gun Runner) that started under the Bush Administration. I'm not blaming Bush, just the dumb asses that worked under him in the ATF.
It's your fist post that you seem to be having a problem reading "Special Ed". "WE can Blame You"!
Again, where can I find this "so called" Obama e-mail?
@theylied1776 Nope, WRONG again, dipshit. Gun Runner sold guns to straw purchasers who were kept under surveillance and apprehended after sufficient evidence was gathered for prosecution. No guns were given to the Mexican drug cartels until after the Obama administration stepped in and started operation Fast and Furious. It was under the CURRENT administration that agents were ordered to break surveillance and allow the guns to continue to Mexico.
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@RadarGuidedVermin Poor little man, these were thee same guns that made there way back into the U.S. after they were allowed to go across border into Mexico by these Mexican criminals in 2007! these were some of the same guns that were traced back to the gun shops sold in TX.
The whole problem here is... if the ATF had apprehended these Mexican criminals "that the had under surveillance" then Agent Brian Terry would still be alive!
@theylied1776 Nope, WRONG again, ignoramus. The guns that was used to murder Brian Terry and others were guns that were "walked" under operation Fast and Furious during the CURRENT administration. If you had bothered to pull your head out of your ass and watch the congressional hearings, you would have realized that PROTESTING Texas gun shops were DIRECTED under threat of PUNISHMENT by the BATFE to allow straw purchases to go through.
@theylied1776 NOPE, WRONG as usual. Border patrol agent Brain Terry, and others, would be alive today if the BATFE, under the approval of the CURRENT administration at minimum, had not knowingly passed out 2500 assault weapons to criminals.
Also, I have sourced the e-mail three times now. Further proof you're an idiot.
@theylied1776 Like a fool, you just undermined your own argument. First you attributed the problem to Bush. Now, you're attributing the problem to private Texas gun shops. You just hanged yourself.
Blame rests squarely with the BATFE, Eric Holder, Barak Obama, and perhaps with Janet Napolitano. Deal with it.
@theylied1776 As I skewer each of your dopey "arguments" one-by-one, your modified replacement arguments become increasingly more ridiculous. Already you have shifted blame from Bush to Texas gun shops. No doubt it will be martians next.
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@RadarGuidedVermin Please show me, in which post where I specifically "Blamed Bush" for this? I wrote, and try to keep up here Special Ed; "this started in 2007 (under) the Bush administration".
Feel free to ask any English teacher to break that sentence down for you. since you only have a G.E.D... let me help you out, it's about the C.O.N.T.E.X.T!
How's that evidence , that you claimed, on that Obama E-mail coming Princess?
@theylied1776 Because you're stupid, let me repeat it for you. Blame for the "walked" guns rests with the BATFE and the Obama administration.
I told you multiple times the e-mail was introduced and read multiple times during the first two days of the congressional hearing. I have also told you multiple times to review the hearings so that you would understand the issue and not come off as an idiot.
Your arguments have been DESTROYED. You're just spinning your wheels now. Keep FAILING.
@theylied1776 "this started in 2007 (under) the Bush administration"
Is both not true in terms of "walked" guns going to Mexican drug cartels and suggests that at least some of the CURRENT administration's blame can be pawned off unto the Bush administration.
I have DESTROYED each of your dopey claims, where you have been unable to even dent a single one of mine. Keep trying, loser.
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@RadarGuidedVermin Once again, show me where I "specifically" blamed George W Bush for Gun runner or Fast ans Furious. you made this claim, now back it up Princess!
Again, Where can I find this Obama E-mail,that you claimed, and who specifically made this claim. this shouldn't be hard for someone as intelligent as you!
Destroyed my argument, hardly! you're a little short on facts Spanky.
@theylied1776 More crying, backpedaling, and meaningless drivel from Idiot Theylied1776. Get back to me when you've reviewed the hearings and have something intelligent to say.
@theylied1776 The "it's Bush's fault" bullshit you've been parroting from discredited MSNBC got blown out of the water on the hill during the first two days of the congressional hearing. I suggest you take off your liberal goggles and review the testimony given at the hearing before you open your big, fat yap and embarrass yourself further.
There are those who believe that the hidden agenda of F&F was to funnel guns to Hamas via the cartels, and that it came from the highest level of the Obama admin.
originalcause 8 months ago
Obama, Hillary and the Mexican President called for a gun ban because US guns were being used in Mexican drug dealers and they did this long before this story broke. Lies because Obama sold these guns just so he could impose a gun ban Murder 1 Obama, the commie cost a border agent his life
BarryDead 8 months ago
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I noticed that Fox"news" or the republican Senator didn't state the fact that this program was started in 2007 under the Bush administration.
I wonder why?
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 and were did you get you information from? When the ATF’s Project Gunrunner began in 2005 under the Bush administration, the agency didn’t allow guns to be taken over the border into Mexico. Under President Barack Obama, the agency not only allowed the illegal sale of American guns but also allowed them to leave the United States and fall into cartel hands. Libturd tactics?
BarryDead 8 months ago
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@BarryDead Right! nice try. the testimony given in the hearing today about "project gun runner/fast and furious" by the four ATF agents are a matter of public record,
Where did I get my information? you do know that there are about 10 cable channels dedicated solely to Gov't right? the most popular is called C-SPAN. there's even a youtube channel called "oversightandreform" where you can watch some of the hearing.
O.K. special Ed!
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 They were started as buy busts. They did not allow guns to continue to be transported across the boarders. This took it to a whole new level.
themunz126 8 months ago
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@themunz126 "Right, of course"!
Let's just wait and see who gets "charged" once these inquiries are over.
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 an agent died with one of those guns, someone should be charged. Agents said that the policy changed under holder and allowed the guns to get through. Holders second said that no guns got through. Someone will get charged even if for stonewalling
themunz126 8 months ago
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@themunz126 Yes, an agent did get killed and like I wrote before, after this inquiry is complete let's see who gets charged. after all... this has been going on since 2007!
I'm not willing to jump to a conclusion solely based on a rumor or hearsay from a website.
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 watch?v=vao4-YwliR8&feature=youtu.be
themunz126 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Nope, this started in 2009, under the OBAMA administration.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Nope WRONG again! The agents report that the illegal guns began to "walk" in 2009 under the OBAMA administration. You need to stop watching the liberal MSNBC tabloid-TV entertainment channel.
By the way, the e-mails have now been released showing that Obama and his DOJ LIED and are right in the middle of this mess. We can blame you for the death of agent Brian Terry because you voted for Obama.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin Guns began to walk in, in 2009? the damage was well underway under the Bush Administration. these guns started "Going Out" in 2007!
Where can I find this so called "e-mails" sent to and received by "Obama" like you claim here? which news org made that idiotic claim?
You can blame me all you want little man. the facts aren't on your side.
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Sorry, you can't blame Bush. The Obama administration has handed out 2500 assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels like they were candy on Halloween. Both memos and e-mails clearly show the DOJ, Holder, and Obama connection. ATF agents report that they first started to "let the guns walk in 2009."
Your false prophet, incompetent Obama, knew about and approved passing out guns to criminals. No matter how much you cry, you cannot change these immutable facts. Deal with it.
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@theylied1776 "You can blame me all you want"
I'm not blaming you, dipshit. I'm blaming the BATFE and the current administration because 2500 assault weapons "walked" on their watch. Learn to read.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin Why don't you read your own post,"We can blame you for the death of agent Brian Terry because you voted for Obama". not only are you a dumb ass but now you're also a Liar!
Again, where can I find these "so called" E-mails sent by Obama showing that he's in the middle of this mess?
These Guns were sold to these Mexican criminals during the Bush administration, under the name of "Operation Gun Runner"!
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Sniveling crybaby, Theylived1776, suddenly comes to the painful realization that his false prophet, Barack Obama, can't walk on water.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Not what I said, dipshit. The operation properly followed straw-purchased firearms, and didn't start letting guns walk (that means break surveillance to let the guns get away) to Mexico until so directed by the CURRENT administration. Blame for Brain Terry's murder rests squarely with the CURRENT administration
Keep FAILING, and while you're at it, LEARN TO READ.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago 21
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@RadarGuidedVermin Where can I find this Law that states that it's legal to "SELL" Guns to Mexican nationals? this was an operation(Gun Runner) that started under the Bush Administration. I'm not blaming Bush, just the dumb asses that worked under him in the ATF.
It's your fist post that you seem to be having a problem reading "Special Ed". "WE can Blame You"!
Again, where can I find this "so called" Obama e-mail?
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Nope, WRONG again, dipshit. Gun Runner sold guns to straw purchasers who were kept under surveillance and apprehended after sufficient evidence was gathered for prosecution. No guns were given to the Mexican drug cartels until after the Obama administration stepped in and started operation Fast and Furious. It was under the CURRENT administration that agents were ordered to break surveillance and allow the guns to continue to Mexico.
Congratulations! You FAILED again.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin Poor little man, these were thee same guns that made there way back into the U.S. after they were allowed to go across border into Mexico by these Mexican criminals in 2007! these were some of the same guns that were traced back to the gun shops sold in TX.
The whole problem here is... if the ATF had apprehended these Mexican criminals "that the had under surveillance" then Agent Brian Terry would still be alive!
How's it coming with that Obama E-mail?
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Nope, WRONG again, ignoramus. The guns that was used to murder Brian Terry and others were guns that were "walked" under operation Fast and Furious during the CURRENT administration. If you had bothered to pull your head out of your ass and watch the congressional hearings, you would have realized that PROTESTING Texas gun shops were DIRECTED under threat of PUNISHMENT by the BATFE to allow straw purchases to go through.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
@theylied1776 NOPE, WRONG as usual. Border patrol agent Brain Terry, and others, would be alive today if the BATFE, under the approval of the CURRENT administration at minimum, had not knowingly passed out 2500 assault weapons to criminals.
Also, I have sourced the e-mail three times now. Further proof you're an idiot.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Like a fool, you just undermined your own argument. First you attributed the problem to Bush. Now, you're attributing the problem to private Texas gun shops. You just hanged yourself.
Blame rests squarely with the BATFE, Eric Holder, Barak Obama, and perhaps with Janet Napolitano. Deal with it.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
@theylied1776 As I skewer each of your dopey "arguments" one-by-one, your modified replacement arguments become increasingly more ridiculous. Already you have shifted blame from Bush to Texas gun shops. No doubt it will be martians next.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin Please show me, in which post where I specifically "Blamed Bush" for this? I wrote, and try to keep up here Special Ed; "this started in 2007 (under) the Bush administration".
Feel free to ask any English teacher to break that sentence down for you. since you only have a G.E.D... let me help you out, it's about the C.O.N.T.E.X.T!
How's that evidence , that you claimed, on that Obama E-mail coming Princess?
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 Because you're stupid, let me repeat it for you. Blame for the "walked" guns rests with the BATFE and the Obama administration.
I told you multiple times the e-mail was introduced and read multiple times during the first two days of the congressional hearing. I have also told you multiple times to review the hearings so that you would understand the issue and not come off as an idiot.
Your arguments have been DESTROYED. You're just spinning your wheels now. Keep FAILING.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin Special Ed, which post of mine was it where I specifically blame Bush for this?
Where can I find the Specific Obama E-mail that he sent, or "who specifically" made this claim, so I can read it for myself?
You're making a lot of claims here that you can't back up Little Man!
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 "this started in 2007 (under) the Bush administration"
Is both not true in terms of "walked" guns going to Mexican drug cartels and suggests that at least some of the CURRENT administration's blame can be pawned off unto the Bush administration.
I have DESTROYED each of your dopey claims, where you have been unable to even dent a single one of mine. Keep trying, loser.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin Once again, show me where I "specifically" blamed George W Bush for Gun runner or Fast ans Furious. you made this claim, now back it up Princess!
Again, Where can I find this Obama E-mail,that you claimed, and who specifically made this claim. this shouldn't be hard for someone as intelligent as you!
Destroyed my argument, hardly! you're a little short on facts Spanky.
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 More crying, backpedaling, and meaningless drivel from Idiot Theylied1776. Get back to me when you've reviewed the hearings and have something intelligent to say.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin I'm only asking for you to back up your claims, Little man!
But, if you can't... I'll understand Special Ed. ;)
Where did I specifically blame Bush for Gun runner or Fast and Furious? which post?
Where can i find these "so called E-mails", and or who specifically (originally) made these claims about the e-mails?
theylied1776 8 months ago
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@theylied1776 All my claims have been backed up. All of yours have been DESTROYED. Deal with it, crybaby.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
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@RadarGuidedVermin You made these claims now back em' up!
theylied1776 8 months ago
@theylied1776 The "it's Bush's fault" bullshit you've been parroting from discredited MSNBC got blown out of the water on the hill during the first two days of the congressional hearing. I suggest you take off your liberal goggles and review the testimony given at the hearing before you open your big, fat yap and embarrass yourself further.
RadarGuidedVermin 8 months ago
Today starts Hang-Holder Day................!
Wildkkat1 8 months ago