Shakespeare not real author?

[TheStylepro65]

this officially didnt help my debate.

[zahir13]

Here is the website to check: shakespeareauthorshipDOTcom

[MandoMohan]

Of all the known candidates, it is the least known author of the time who is the real Shakespeare, Amelia Bossano Lanier, (see attached video 1st of 3). Hope someone can sign it for you.

[fogbeet]

to me the best choice is De Vere; also, just as some would not be able to do lip reading, some of us don't have reason to read sign language either-could be considerate enough of the majority of watchers to use voice over or captions or at least mumble something

[MPPComix]

i'm not sure what your saying, could you post anotations???

[squarebird]

Can someone post a translation of what this woman is signing?

[marksixtyone]

edbolswell your an idiot. obviousl you nener read the folios. How can a deaf persor listen to shakesphere? Read yes .I suppose the blind will now tell us that rembrant was liousy with light! Not meant to be insulting!

[edboswell]

Mark, not to be insulting, but where did I say deaf people listen to Shakespeare? There was the FOLIO....... of shake-speare, which came out in 1623. SINGULAR, not plural...... Also, "your" is a possessive, "your an idiot" is a statement by the same.

[koobl0]

maybe shes mute

[marksixtyone]

Oh Bull edboswell! You and your ilk jst cannot beleieve that a person who was not of blue blood could write such mastepieces. Wabner,Morzart,VoltareHadyn and Bach along with many hundredes of great artists could not evolve because as you put it they were simply too poor and did not have the chamnce to go to school. How many universities have turned out top flight artists> Not that many unless your the type that likes 12 tone which thae masses hate. Your historical references have no proof. Snob

[edboswell]

It's Wagner, Voltaire and Haydn. I'm impressed you were able to spell Bach. BTW: Walt Whitman and Mark Twain, who both called BS on the stratford myth, can hardly be thought of as "snobs". Snobish english professors without a clue are the ones who spout the drivel you parrot about Anti-Stratford snobs. It's a lame argument. Any idea why de Vere's in-laws paid for the First Folio?

[Shelllium]

I feel the same way. It also bugs me when people decide someone was gay posthumously.

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[marksixtyone]

Problem is that a lot of bozos believe that only a well schooled nobel could write. Wrong. Listen to Beethoveen,bach, Mozart!

[edboswell]

Big difference between music, art and literature. "Shake-speare" was refering to books not yet translated, that were VERY expensive. The Merchant of Venice contains info. nearly impossible to get without going to Venice. A scene in Henry V is in a French style spoken by French royals. To think it was made up is a bit much. It's true that Ben Jonson knew Shaksper from Stratford, because he parodied him in 1592 as a blowhard who claimed to be a famous writer, when writers knew he wasn't.

[heliotropezzz333]

@edboswell how do you know that owners of such books didn't sell or circulate copies of the stories more widely? There was no copyright at the time. Also you traduce Ben Jonson who never said Shakespeare was not a playright - quite the opposite. He only criticised his writing as somewhat overblown, but later praised him

[edboswell]

@heliotropezzz333 Copyrights did come into play during the period. Not exactly like now, but there were rules. All writings needed to registered with the Star Chamber.

Ben Jonson, who knew the De Vere's, and worked for Sir Francis Bacon, knew both the writer "Shake-speare", and the man from stratford. He was paid to edit the first folio, and provided the plausible deniability in order to publish. More than a coincidence that de Vere's inlaws were the dedicatees of the folio.

[heliotropezzz333]

@edboswell By having writing registered with them, the Star Chamber may have wanted to exert some control prevent seditious writings, but I doubt they had the function of enforcing copyright rules for published works. The rest is supposition about Jonson's motives. No one can prove that Shakespeare did or did not write the plays it seems because there is no irrefutable proof. it comes down to belief based on the balance of probabilites and what weight is given to the evidence that exists.

[defiantwon33]

@marksixtyone

maybe not well 'schooled', but they WERE well trained. 

[thehoaxbuster]

The real author was definitely Edward de Vere, the seventeenth Earl of Oxford.

[nichrome50]

Well, that settles it then - NOT. Read the last chapter of Bill Bryson's "Shakespeare."

[thehoaxbuster]

Wow take it easy. I have a right to voice my opinion here you know...