How ridiculous is it that the US goes into another country, create an unnecessary war, slaughter its people, STILL lose the war, but then at the end of the day is still able to convince it's people back home that they are the heroes/good guys in the whole thing...
@Hperman09 Yes, in the same way that the Americans started the American Revolution. Both were wars of liberation, to get the Colonial powers out ao they could run there own countries there own way.
Interesting how this "documentary" ends before they get into the Communists in North Vietnam and Cambodia slaughter those who stood against them after the fall of Saigon.
This video is made by a trash talking piece of shit, very biased against The USA, it's people and it's government. I'd shoot him myself if I was face to face with this asshole of a narrator.
no matter what the govt does we have the true power if they tried to control us we would retake control even if they tried to force it on us there are so many idiots in washington
Apologies... My clever attempt to post the links at "Part 6 of 6"in a way to make it past the 'no hyperlinks censor' didn't quite work. Both of them will take you to the same "Table of Contents" list of articles. The two pertinent articles are about 1/3 of the way down the list under an open circle bullet titled "This War is About So Much More". Dark square bullets # 11 & 12: "The American Involvement in VietNam" & "Collection of Letters by Ho Chi Minh".
Two statements stand out in my mind. Gen. Giap in segment 2 of 4 at 1:52, "They (the US) had won everywhere else so they had to win in VietNam. That was wrong, people are the deciding factor." And Clark Clifford, segment 4 of 4 at 1:22, "...Ultimately, the reaction of the American people had the final impact upon the formulation of our foreign poliocy. I say I would not change it." In both cases it's the people who have the final say.
The America have tons of fire power, air strike, tanks and automatic gun while vietnam doesnt have those thing they have single shot gun and the americans still lost. the america treat the the people soo bad they bomp strike a town that have in innocent kids, just want too ......................................................
America is a load of crap , if it weren't for the German scientist their military and technology would be crap, if it weren't for the British they wouldn't be America and if it weren't for other races they wouldn't be what it is today.
An interesting doc, but it didn't quite give me the answer I was looking for. Why was there stalemate and not much progress? Was it the Guerilla war, or ineffective bombing? Why was there no knockout blow from either side during the 60s? And how was it's "unwinnable" status defined?
@primeholyassasin20 the answer to your question lies in the words of a F-4 pilot who serviced in Nam.He said ''We had lots of bombs and firepower but we couldnt find any targets''..You see the NVA and VC never wanted to face the Americans in an open fight ,so they tried to win using unconventional tactics ..They used to hit and then ran back to their tunnels and deep in the Jungles of Cambodia...
@TheKILLA317 It almost sounds like you're saying that the way the VietNamese fought their war was unfair,Just like the British military thought that those dirty colonists were positively uncivilized in the way they used guerilla tactics to fight their war for independence in 1776.The US lost its soul and the VNWar in 1945 when Truman ignored HoChiMinh's appeal for help in establishing democracy in VN and supported French colonialism instead.
@4y6857b Let me edit my comment: IMHO, the US lost its soul and the VNWar in 1945 when Truman ignored HoChiMinh's appeal for help in establishing democracy in VN and supported French colonialism instead.
We abandoned the principles of the right of nations to self-determination that we claimed to believe in so strongly when we chose to aid France in re-establishing colonial rule over VN.The VNese wanted freedom and were willing to fight and die for it.
@4y6857b Yes i agree with you..The bad thing about Ho Chi Minch was that he was a communist who spent 30 years of his life in China and USSR...Kennedy thought that if NV took control of the South this would result in a communist outbreak all over Asia...This theory became known as the Domino Theory.
@TheKILLA317 Part 5 of 6 Therefore,my assertion that,if we had acted in the light of the history of HCM's actions and requests going back to 1920,and acted like the champion of freedom and democracy that we purported ourselves to be,instead of supporting French colonialism&looking only at the factor that he accepted Soviet aid, VN would more likely be a solid ally in SEA today instead of the theatre of the war that tore our country apart.
@TheKILLA317 Part 4 of 6 Therefore,ca1965,USA began sending 'advisors' to VN.This is generally considered to be the time that US involvement in VN began.But our active'non-involvement' goes back at least to 1945, and even ca1920 if you count HCM's first appeal following the end of WW1.At that time the question of HCM being a 'communist' wasn't even on the radar screen.
@TheKILLA317 Part 3 of 6 But since VN had accepted aid from USSR,and this during tensions of the Cold War,the VN conflict was painted w/ the brush of the Domino Theory.VN then became the arena where East and West superpowers fought their battle.Most unfortunate for the VNese people! In the turmoil of this new,expanded war,the original reason for it(VNese freedom)was lost in the rhetoric of,"If we don't stop them in SEA we'll be fighting them on the West Coast of USA."
@TheKILLA317 Part 2 of 6 He accepted aid from USSR only after being rebuffed by USA in 1945,long before Kennedy or Eisenhower and the domino theory.VN defeated France at DienBienPhu in1954.At this time the Western powers said that VN be divided into N & S at the 17th parallel.Understandably,VN said "Go fry ice!",or words to that effect,"We've fought,bled and died to win our freedom from France and we're not going to give it up."
@TheKILLA317 Part 1 of 6 "In 1930 Ho Chi Minh drew up a charter for the Indochinese Communist Party". It's unfortunate that HCM chose to use the word 'communist' in the name of his political party.I maintain that he was first and foremost a VietNamese nationalist and never a Soviet style 'communist'.Evidence of this is that he asked theUSA for aid in establishing a VNese democracy, not Russia.These requests go back as far as 1920.
Protest DID NOT end US involvement in Vietnam. When relations were established with China and a SALT signed with USSR only then did the purpose of the Vietnam War evaporate. It is a shame that 58,000 americans died in Vietnam. People who have the views of the creators of this video have never been able to explain why the deaths of 58,000 is considered an military failure and yet the deaths of over 400,000 in WWII is considered a justified military triumph. We need less biased evaluation please
i still dont get it. So let us say vietnam war a failure coz it did not have any goal to achieve. Now what was there to achieve in Afghanistan and Iraq. Dont tell that Osama and Saddam and WMD. We all are just shameless quiet audience born to see and face the destiny written by the hands of asshole politicians.
@MrQwertyui12345678 gr8888. never heard such a logical reply. i dont know abt mujahideens but the afghanis i meet here are really nice people and they love india.
Some said the United States did not lose the war. If the United States didn't lose the war than what did she accomplished? She stepped into the war for the sole reason of stopping Communism from spreading into Indochina. Vietnam felled to communist, Cambodia now is communist and Lao is also communist, so why doesn't the United States lose the war?
@TheHeavyMetalnr666 LOL They love us when they need our help. Because of the USA, they have the ability to hate. The reason you can post is because of the USA so carry on. After puberty, you will start to see what this Country has done for the World and Democracy.
@MotherMagdoline As one American soldier in another Vietnam war documentary pointed out: "California gives a man 3 years prison time for draft evasion. Going to Vietnam is a 4 year commitment. The chances of dying in prison are very slim. The chances of surviving Vietnam as a combat soldier are not very good. I wish I had burned my draft card and just gone to jail." The soldier was killed three days later by artillery fire. His reasoning is sound and well worth considering deeply.
@SororThothma well it's incorrect because if you volunteered you're there for a year. Drafted, two years. And evasion was a 5 year imprisonment. If what you said was true then how would so many men get drafted hmm?
@Failcard What I meant by this, is that if all these men were drafted like the myth states, and prison was only 3 years while Vietnam was four years, then most of the drafties woulda went to prison.
Hogwash. Since there was a darn easy way of avoiding the Vietnam War, that never was truly a threat to draft dodgers. At that time, individuals who voluntarily ENLISTED were given a choice of job specialty and duty assignment (USA, Europe, etc). Only draftees were routinely sent to infantry training (or similar) and then Vietnam. Enlistees had to volunteer for it. I enlisted and spent my military tour in Europe. Draft dodgers had the same option, but dodged enlistment as well.
can you imagine todays college students standing up for human rights overseas? sheesh! can you imagine them doing anything pro-active against their tyrannical government? those hippy kids may have sold out now but at least they once owned balls.
USA AND ITS ALLIES R THE REAL FUCKER THAN THE HITLER OR STALIN BECAUSE BEFORE WW1 THE US ALLIES HAS conquered THE WORLD AND SLAVED AND MOSTLY KILLED THE PEOPLE HOW FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.AND THE WW2 IS THE KEY POINT FOR ALL SLAVE countries IN ASIA,AFRICA,ETC FOR BRITISH,French,ETC,THIS R THE TRUE REAL crimenels.THINK ABOUT IT
@Torbon8372 to mention massacre, heh? ok, how about the My lai massacre, the rapes, ect? we said we have "freedom" and "democracy", yet on the other side of the world, we handled things like savages
"The colonial farmers who fired on the British troops across the Bridge of Concord intended neither war nor revolution" ...are u f***ing kidding me?! So what, they just thought that after shooting some British Regulars they would hide the bodies and no one would notice? Attention narrator: they knew very well what would happen, and I'm not sure if you know this, but when people are willing to SHOOT others for a cause, they probably don't mind going to war for it.
@kikapo1974 ok, who would attack China out of the blue? China certainly won't attack the United States because there's too much capital invested, and the United States wouldn't attack China because there's NO REASON to do so. Even if the two did go to war, there wouldn't be a new national language afterward because a conflict of that magnitude with today's technology would demand the first use of nuclear weapons for combat since 1945...doubt too many of either side would be left.
@kikapo1974 lol I promised.... No offend but history will repeat if china decided to invade little country around them. such as 1979 war against vietnam in Cambodia. 250,000 got owned. although the vietnamese did pulled out their troop but the price is high for china.. So imaging go against USA and we should all know by now that US will never fight by itself or on it own soils. It will be in china so the cause will be higher.. Think about it. how many peacemaker are in east asia right now?
@kikapo1974 do china even have any peacemaker in western? Guess not.. So Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, South Korea and many other so what does china have.. Hmmmmmmm North Korea.. lol Well okay sure no problems We will win this wars in 4 years and till then Freedom will come to China, Korea and Hopefully Vietnam too. So who do China have again? Yes US will win no matter what. beside US will never fight alone.. history show that
@accordandy007 You are talking about history I suppose.How long ago was that?Let me remind you something...Times are different.We are in the space age.Do not linger on the good old past that the United State have.Empire comes and go.US dominance is coming to an end.That's a cruel but impending fact.Talking about peacemaker or alliance.In fact US have offended most of the nations in the world as the Americans always have a habit of poking their nose into others domestic affair.
@kikapo1974 Okay and what about China? name any country like china... Well none except north Korea... Well what happened to Vietnam? isn't VietNam suppose to be one of china Ally? what happen? Well maybe you are right time change so therefore US must have a better hand this time if it ever go against China... By the way who the fuck want to be part of the Communist party... so what happen in The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. So you want this fucking communist bloodsucking machine to rule us
@accordandy007 I do not blame you for your view dude.Honestly speaking, I am well aware of your sentiments.But things may not always be what it seems.Educations and media play a big part in moudling the society.Unless you really see things for yourself.Else what you hear or taken from people are always the filtered informations.I am very well travelled.Therefore I dare to say this.I was like you before,but now I think differently.I would like you to watch a video.To be continue...
@kikapo1974 Well I guess under the fucking greastest ruling of fucking CHINA there will be no such thing called Protest... any one who object the gov't will all burn to hell and die right....WHy dont u live in china dude.. why the fuck you live in US and Bash on american like this? This is wrong.. sorry to break it this way but china will not and never ever can be like USA. WE R #1..
@accordandy007 Go to youtube search engine type "A westerner's view of China".Click on it.Once you have finished watching the video.Give me your view.I am not saying that you will definitely change your opinion about china after watching the video.But at least for now,you know what you have been receiving from the media is only half true.You have to experience it for yourself first hand.Not just been fed by the media.Propanganda is a powerful yet destructive tool used by the west against china.
the Netherlands doesn't have 300 pound blacks and Hispanics who live on welfare and public housing for 5 generations who's only skill is to have 5 kids with 5 different dads before the age of 23. Please take them all and let them live in your neighborhoods!!!
It seems that if you investigate every war that American has been involved in, it was started by some 'incident' of them being attacked, when later on we find it was not true. Now we have 9/11, planes that disappeared, buildings that fell down, a million things that don't make sense. I wish the USA would become open and honest with its people so that it can grow into a country of truth. I wish the ordinary good people of USA had more power, and were not led by greed and lies.
@testtube43 Now I agree that some instances such as the Gulf of Tonkin were complete BS, but are you saying that when a country is attacked (eg US sailors abducted by British prior to War of 1812, unrestricted submarine warfare/munitions sabotage by Germany prior to WW1, Pearl Harbor) that they should not defend themselves?
Speaking as an American, America is a fabric of illusions: A deceptive flow of commercials, propaganda movies and dumb TV shows; and of religious mind control made possible by amoral scientists who sell their monstrous discoveries to the highest bidder all for the sake of a little fame, fortune and/or a little T&A in the lab. Beware of atheists, beware of Bible thumpers and Jesus freaks, and beware of flag wavers - they all want to own your mind, as well as your wallet and your ass.
USA : Please stop interfering in / invading other countries. So you don't like the regime? How dare anyone else think differently to you! Who decided that you play God in world affairs? How would you feel if China had weapons beyond your comprehension and decided that America really ought to be communist and decimated your land and people. The majority of Americans are decent people who are opposed to war, so why has the US not learnt the lessons of Vietnam? Peace. Life is too short for war.
During the 1968 Tet Offensive the communist troops infiltrated and captured dozens of towns in South VN, including the former Imperial City of Hue. People were stuck in their homes. Heavy naval and terrestrial shellings plus aerial napalm bombing had destroyed some 10,000 houses out of 17,000 in Hue. The Americans had decided to destroy the towns in order to save them. Of course, the communists were blamed for the destruction and the collateral killing of the people! Who else?
japan doesn't have military because we don't let them, the middle east would be fine the only reason is in chaos is because of the u.s. shit you would be shooting foreign people if they told you what to do , Europe would also be fine and we aren't the last super power the soviet union fell but Russia is still super power one thing is to patriotic another is to be self center the u.s. will fall like all great empires did
I watch all four parts of this right wing bleeding heart crap. They fail to point out that we were there because of the North East Asia Pac, like NATO an attack on members are considered an attack on all. The American Military did not lose a single battle during the war. The NVN general in this film was interviewed in the 90's and he stated they were about to surrender due to the bombings of the North, but the day before the surrender, President Johnson stopped the bombing of the north.
@oldsalt1947 RIGHT wing bleeding heart crap? Man, at least get your political directions straight, if you dont want to make a complete fool out of yourself.
The US did something okie to some countries or their allies but not Vietnam. The US did nothing good in VN and the Vietnamese had to go a long & bloody way to earn the US respect and fine bilateral relationship right now.
A country doesn't need to be communist for it's people to starve or be poor. Look around you if you live in North America. Now go to a Socialist country like The Netherlands and tell me what you see there - everyone has a job, a home and food to eat. I'm no communist by any means, but the picture that has been painted for us here in North America about what communism is, is false. Those are dictatorships. Totally different. All governments fuck the people. That's just fact.
True... All types of governments will fall eventually Democracy isn't the best type either and country can loose power money... It depends on the people to lead it
It's unbelievable how much we get robbed of our money in NOrth America. Car insurance, cars, electricity, taxes, taxes, taxes...Work to get paid, pay to work, insurance, insurance, insurance, family insurance, testicle insurance.
@jaxonave Not only that, but it turns out that entire "domino theory" was a big fat farce.
It's doubtful we're told the truth about that "cold war" and exactly why communism was demonized like it was.
I'm pretty sure it had to do with the military industrial complex not having any public opinion obstructing their thousands of nuclear tests, CIA coups and a future willy nilly rampage across indochina.
i m indian n when i play read some book n play some games like battlefield n cod-black ops
i found that they feel communist as a terrorist
actually they hav only a different type of living n govt
ya u can find some fault in communist but some faults r in capitalist also
only due to being a communist cuba ,vietnam, nd afgan(i feel really bad bcos here only america won n the whole place destroyed)in which the millitant caused in middile east r still causing a prob
dude are you seriously implying that holland is a communist country?
WTF, we are Not communist we just redevide. the biggest earners pay most tax and that goes tot government en scocial development things(don't know if americans have a word for free money for the poor).
@jamesdragonforce Communism (by definition a state- and classless society) was never reached and never will be. What you're thinking of is the marxist brand of socialism, which (just as national socialism) is just one of many forms of socialism. I don't see any mass killings and crimes perpetrated in de facto socialist western europe.
@Scorpitarios FYI Socialism in europe has caused major problems. The justification of things such as euthanasia and unnecessarily high taxes. Even if there weren't any mass killings in Europe, you've got a lot more looking around to do.
@jamesdragonforce And all the nonsense talk about free, universal healthcare is garbage. It's not "free" if you're paying for it with tax dollars.
Another thing, try the goodness of healthcare in Canada, they'll make you wait for hours on end while the government lacks the efficiency of the drug quantity/quality you demand.
@jamesdragonforce So, then tell me please what kind of problems socialist policies has caused in Switzerland for example? Or any other western european country? The ONLY bad thing I know about western socialism is its liberal migration policy. The rest is very good. No waiting in hospitals, good social instituions, etc.
@Scorpitarios Also, how is this relevant to the discussion? U.S. troops killed hundreds of thousands, mainly due to being shell-shocked, crazy, and on drugs (hey, war will do that to you, especially if you've been there way too long). The communists killed millions, so it matters not if Communism "was ever reached".
If you'd been fighting for a just cause you would have won. But you'd no genuine reason for being there, You lost the war and communism did'nt spread all over south east aisa which the hawks said it would if they didnt intervine. And those left wing radicals are the only reason the rest of the world holds out any hope for the future of America. you extreme right wingers are a disgrace to the memory of the greatest generation who freed europe from the Nazis. What happened to you America?
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no because by 1975 the communists were bankrupt and increased the starvation of people in order to spend more on arms. communists destroyed vietnam, in fact, people were much better off before the communists came and destroyed. everywhere communism goes it destroys the poor people. just ask yourself: why do all nations who support america and adopt american principles and systems do better than almost all other countries?. its people like you, who hate their own country, that are the cancer....
Comments should NOT be hidden? What's the point of it open for comments? Everyone's comments should be shown openly here, without any partiality & prejudice, as a true proof of free expression & democracy.
The U.S. had WON many BATTLES because it had well trained armed forces & had many advance facilities & firepower, but it LOST the hearts & minds of the people. U.S. troops there were taken as foreign invaders, as some MISBEHAVED & merciless rascal U.S. Tiger soldiers who committed rapes & brutal atrocities to the innocent villagers including babies, like what had happened in My Lai & some other villages. Fortunately some were saved by a few good Americans from a helicopter that had passed by.
Anybody with a Mighty Military would NOT necessary WIN a war although it may had won many battles. Merciless & cruel killing of innocent civilians would anger all people around the world. The cruel Japs had raped, tortured & brutally killed many thousands & thousands of innocent Chinese & Korean civilians whom even today hate the Japs very deeply. If necessary they don't buy any Japs' products.
Did all this massacre and re-education happen in the US. Or did it happen in Vietnam? If it was happening in Vietnam, what was the US doing there? And what did the US achieve?
"to thine own self be true" yet you took the constitution america back then and ruined it just like bush did it........have you never heard if you dont learn from the past your doomed to repeat it? Today we're to busy with our ipods to care......STOP THE MADNESS PEOPLE.......THEY DID IT BACK THEN SO DO IT NOW
its a shame that there are to many redneck hicks who have been brainwashed today who would love for the war in iraq to continue.......thank goodness there wasnt any back then.......and yet the vietnam war lasted what? 30 years? how many years will iraq last......bush destroyed the economy.....why arent there people protesting? why arent there people closing down colleges why? cause your all to fucking lazy and stupid
yea man report this shit to the right wing chickenhawk draft dodging war profiteers. rush hannity nugent theyll pat you on your pointed little head and tell you your a great american
@BigBishop1 "yea man report this shit to the right wing chickenhawk draft dodging war profiteers. rush hannity nugent theyll pat you on your pointed little head and tell you your a great american"
I doubt it, as I'm English.
You however are a whiny little apologist for vicious communists.
thermite ring a lil bell boys? They just detected in the last 2 weeks..911 ring another bell in your lil brains? Christ, at least our Prime Minister in a moron, but not a devil like your Prez...I lost a dear friend that day...Enough with you people already....You drain our Great Lakes over our dead bodies...i CAN IMAGINE THE EMAILS WE ARE GOING TO GET TOMORROW AND THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND.
tAKE ON A WOAMN BOYS...YOU yANKS ALWAYS BITE FOR ME...LETS GO ..SUCKERS.
america should get the hell off its high horse and stop policing and exerting what is "right" according to its own opinions, on the rest of the world. someone else should put american in its place like america has done with so many other nations and peoples; china seems to be moving up in the economic status :) maybe in a few more years china will come kick some ...
America is the greatest country ever created, and is the most powerful country in the world. every country has its mistakes because its made up of human beings and we all make mistakes, just ask germany. if america is on "its high horse" its because we have earned the right. weve helped out so many other countries. france would be speaking german if it werent for us... twice. and we were the biggest factor in WWII. Germany was doing very well till we stepped in and put them in their place.
In WW2 the allies won and that means we are free of Nazi Rule but sacrifices are made and needed to achieve victory so yea we win so dont pull that hippy crap
Have you consider doing some reading about nuclear weapons. North Korea has failed to test successfully a true nuclear bomb. It may have the ablitiy to create a few dirty bombs of nuclear material, but not a nuclear reaction bomb.
@oldsalt1947 You think you are smart sir. Well let me tell you something, your smart, a smart ass. Done some reading, I don't need to do reading. Ive seen it with my eyes. You don't know the kind of shit I have seen. No nuclear reaction, you ignorant piece of shit. You don't know what kind of weapons other countries posses, nor what your own country mister United States. It is people like you that make our country and what we stand for a shit hole. You are ignorant and uneducated.
I have shed my blood and health for this country USA. Your comments are correct, except, I believe we are lossing our power due to debt and poor leadership policies.
Have you considered what will happen when the USA falls from power? The USA is the last major world powers that keep many wars from occurring. Not the UN. Even the USA of America's government and way of life will be invaded, because they are to weak to defend itself. Most of Europe will face wars without the American defense troops there. Japan has no national defense organization and rely upon Americans for defense. The Middle East will become a war torn region of the world, without USA.
The American people are brave and great in the fact that they will object, dissent and protest the actions of the American government when it is in conflict with core American values. Even when threatened with police brutality and fatally shot at on college campuses. These folks are America's conscience and blessings.
Thank God America has a now a president that won the Peace Nobel Prize.
Shackletononice 2 weeks ago
How ridiculous is it that the US goes into another country, create an unnecessary war, slaughter its people, STILL lose the war, but then at the end of the day is still able to convince it's people back home that they are the heroes/good guys in the whole thing...
itsjnham 2 months ago
@itsjnham The Vietnam War was started by NV and North Vietnam first.
Hperman09 2 weeks ago
@Hperman09 Yes, in the same way that the Americans started the American Revolution. Both were wars of liberation, to get the Colonial powers out ao they could run there own countries there own way.
jeffunderglass 2 weeks ago
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itsjnham 2 months ago
The US and her allies' military intervention against the Communist insurgency in South Vietnam was ALWAYS RIGHT!
telfer880 3 months ago
@SororThothma What was the name of that documentary?
veddohnfan 5 months ago 4
Interesting how this "documentary" ends before they get into the Communists in North Vietnam and Cambodia slaughter those who stood against them after the fall of Saigon.
SonofThor73 5 months ago
This video is made by a trash talking piece of shit, very biased against The USA, it's people and it's government. I'd shoot him myself if I was face to face with this asshole of a narrator.
mdz005 5 months ago in playlist History on Film: The Vietnam War
@mdz005 for speaking the truth? if anything, you should be shot for being so ignorant
pwnage51 1 month ago in playlist More videos from cybersurg
@pwnage51 The freedom of speech, the freedom to threaten to shoot anyone who doesn't agree with you. AMERICA! :D
kovona 4 weeks ago
@Failcard "And we gained lots of things out of going to vietnam like body bags!"
-Signed, your propaganda.
Kalostaphor 6 months ago
no matter what the govt does we have the true power if they tried to control us we would retake control even if they tried to force it on us there are so many idiots in washington
codydumont93 6 months ago
america was lose
gogisiu 9 months ago
this was the best documentary on vietnam that I've come across, thanks for sharing
InerSpce 9 months ago
Apologies... My clever attempt to post the links at "Part 6 of 6"in a way to make it past the 'no hyperlinks censor' didn't quite work. Both of them will take you to the same "Table of Contents" list of articles. The two pertinent articles are about 1/3 of the way down the list under an open circle bullet titled "This War is About So Much More". Dark square bullets # 11 & 12: "The American Involvement in VietNam" & "Collection of Letters by Ho Chi Minh".
Sorry about the SNAFU.
4y6857b 9 months ago
Two statements stand out in my mind. Gen. Giap in segment 2 of 4 at 1:52, "They (the US) had won everywhere else so they had to win in VietNam. That was wrong, people are the deciding factor." And Clark Clifford, segment 4 of 4 at 1:22, "...Ultimately, the reaction of the American people had the final impact upon the formulation of our foreign poliocy. I say I would not change it." In both cases it's the people who have the final say.
4y6857b 9 months ago
RussianMilitary1: 4-3 in Lake Placid and 1-0 in the Cold War. How does it taste?
beedub93 9 months ago
Nice violation of second amendment rights. Its coming again folks...
NaturalGroundation 10 months ago
The America have tons of fire power, air strike, tanks and automatic gun while vietnam doesnt have those thing they have single shot gun and the americans still lost. the america treat the the people soo bad they bomp strike a town that have in innocent kids, just want too ......................................................
hoangawesome 10 months ago
America is a load of crap , if it weren't for the German scientist their military and technology would be crap, if it weren't for the British they wouldn't be America and if it weren't for other races they wouldn't be what it is today.
6Flank7 10 months ago
An interesting doc, but it didn't quite give me the answer I was looking for. Why was there stalemate and not much progress? Was it the Guerilla war, or ineffective bombing? Why was there no knockout blow from either side during the 60s? And how was it's "unwinnable" status defined?
primeholyassasin20 11 months ago
@primeholyassasin20 the answer to your question lies in the words of a F-4 pilot who serviced in Nam.He said ''We had lots of bombs and firepower but we couldnt find any targets''..You see the NVA and VC never wanted to face the Americans in an open fight ,so they tried to win using unconventional tactics ..They used to hit and then ran back to their tunnels and deep in the Jungles of Cambodia...
TheKILLA317 11 months ago
@TheKILLA317 It almost sounds like you're saying that the way the VietNamese fought their war was unfair,Just like the British military thought that those dirty colonists were positively uncivilized in the way they used guerilla tactics to fight their war for independence in 1776.The US lost its soul and the VNWar in 1945 when Truman ignored HoChiMinh's appeal for help in establishing democracy in VN and supported French colonialism instead.
4y6857b 9 months ago
@4y6857b Let me edit my comment: IMHO, the US lost its soul and the VNWar in 1945 when Truman ignored HoChiMinh's appeal for help in establishing democracy in VN and supported French colonialism instead.
We abandoned the principles of the right of nations to self-determination that we claimed to believe in so strongly when we chose to aid France in re-establishing colonial rule over VN.The VNese wanted freedom and were willing to fight and die for it.
4y6857b 9 months ago
@4y6857b Yes i agree with you..The bad thing about Ho Chi Minch was that he was a communist who spent 30 years of his life in China and USSR...Kennedy thought that if NV took control of the South this would result in a communist outbreak all over Asia...This theory became known as the Domino Theory.
TheKILLA317 9 months ago
@TheKILLA317 Part 6 of 6
Ref:
rationalrevolution (DOT) net/war/american_involvement_in_vietnam.htm
rationalrevolution (DOT) net/war/collection_of_letters_by_ho_chi_.htm
4y6857b 9 months ago
@TheKILLA317 Part 5 of 6 Therefore,my assertion that,if we had acted in the light of the history of HCM's actions and requests going back to 1920,and acted like the champion of freedom and democracy that we purported ourselves to be,instead of supporting French colonialism&looking only at the factor that he accepted Soviet aid, VN would more likely be a solid ally in SEA today instead of the theatre of the war that tore our country apart.
4y6857b 9 months ago
@TheKILLA317 Part 4 of 6 Therefore,ca1965,USA began sending 'advisors' to VN.This is generally considered to be the time that US involvement in VN began.But our active'non-involvement' goes back at least to 1945, and even ca1920 if you count HCM's first appeal following the end of WW1.At that time the question of HCM being a 'communist' wasn't even on the radar screen.
4y6857b 9 months ago
@TheKILLA317 Part 3 of 6 But since VN had accepted aid from USSR,and this during tensions of the Cold War,the VN conflict was painted w/ the brush of the Domino Theory.VN then became the arena where East and West superpowers fought their battle.Most unfortunate for the VNese people! In the turmoil of this new,expanded war,the original reason for it(VNese freedom)was lost in the rhetoric of,"If we don't stop them in SEA we'll be fighting them on the West Coast of USA."
4y6857b 9 months ago
@TheKILLA317 Part 2 of 6 He accepted aid from USSR only after being rebuffed by USA in 1945,long before Kennedy or Eisenhower and the domino theory.VN defeated France at DienBienPhu in1954.At this time the Western powers said that VN be divided into N & S at the 17th parallel.Understandably,VN said "Go fry ice!",or words to that effect,"We've fought,bled and died to win our freedom from France and we're not going to give it up."
4y6857b 9 months ago
@TheKILLA317 Part 1 of 6 "In 1930 Ho Chi Minh drew up a charter for the Indochinese Communist Party". It's unfortunate that HCM chose to use the word 'communist' in the name of his political party.I maintain that he was first and foremost a VietNamese nationalist and never a Soviet style 'communist'.Evidence of this is that he asked theUSA for aid in establishing a VNese democracy, not Russia.These requests go back as far as 1920.
4y6857b 9 months ago
Protest DID NOT end US involvement in Vietnam. When relations were established with China and a SALT signed with USSR only then did the purpose of the Vietnam War evaporate. It is a shame that 58,000 americans died in Vietnam. People who have the views of the creators of this video have never been able to explain why the deaths of 58,000 is considered an military failure and yet the deaths of over 400,000 in WWII is considered a justified military triumph. We need less biased evaluation please
rockintetster 1 year ago
what a bunch of comie BS.
roydora 1 year ago
Could someone tell me the author of this video? Was it an organization or something like that? Where and when was it published? Thank you!
smilefaker18 1 year ago
The true American holocaust since 1607:
Native Americans wiped out in their millions
African slaves transported in their millions
Wars against just about everybody, and since the 20th century millions killed throughout Asia by American weapons.
Rentaghost76 1 year ago
@Rentaghost76 Japan was asking for it unfortunately.
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
Im from Scotland and i love America
2TWISTEDBALLS 1 year ago
@2TWISTEDBALLS go and live there then
legendgeeza 1 year ago
i still dont get it. So let us say vietnam war a failure coz it did not have any goal to achieve. Now what was there to achieve in Afghanistan and Iraq. Dont tell that Osama and Saddam and WMD. We all are just shameless quiet audience born to see and face the destiny written by the hands of asshole politicians.
ashutosh1684 1 year ago
@ashutosh1684 dude peoblem is that american government has no cost 4 the people in afgan
only to solve the purpose to destroy russia they supported mujahiddin there was a promise of reconstruction of afganistan
but after war the american left afganistan in the hands of mujahoddin n that became the headache of the whole middle east as well as india
MrQwertyui12345678 1 year ago
@MrQwertyui12345678 gr8888. never heard such a logical reply. i dont know abt mujahideens but the afghanis i meet here are really nice people and they love india.
ashutosh1684 1 year ago
@Torbon8372 the left wing idiots have marked your comment as spam because they prefer to censor people in the name of free speech.
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
Some said the United States did not lose the war. If the United States didn't lose the war than what did she accomplished? She stepped into the war for the sole reason of stopping Communism from spreading into Indochina. Vietnam felled to communist, Cambodia now is communist and Lao is also communist, so why doesn't the United States lose the war?
aznpride0 1 year ago
Hmmm....this is one of the 10000 reasions why the rest of the world don't like Usa. And it is all true. Good doc! Thumb up!
TheHeavyMetalnr666 1 year ago
@TheHeavyMetalnr666 LOL They love us when they need our help. Because of the USA, they have the ability to hate. The reason you can post is because of the USA so carry on. After puberty, you will start to see what this Country has done for the World and Democracy.
youbestbequiet 9 months ago 2
American patriots never seem to fail to make themselves cattle to the slaughter
imatheist 1 year ago
@imatheist, those boys didn't have a choice. There was a DRAFT! If you tried to run, they put you in jail!
MotherMagdoline 1 year ago
@MotherMagdoline As one American soldier in another Vietnam war documentary pointed out: "California gives a man 3 years prison time for draft evasion. Going to Vietnam is a 4 year commitment. The chances of dying in prison are very slim. The chances of surviving Vietnam as a combat soldier are not very good. I wish I had burned my draft card and just gone to jail." The soldier was killed three days later by artillery fire. His reasoning is sound and well worth considering deeply.
SororThothma 1 year ago 13
@SororThothma very well said...very well said
MAREKISBACKAGAIN 7 months ago
@SororThothma well it's incorrect because if you volunteered you're there for a year. Drafted, two years. And evasion was a 5 year imprisonment. If what you said was true then how would so many men get drafted hmm?
Failcard 7 months ago
@Failcard What I meant by this, is that if all these men were drafted like the myth states, and prison was only 3 years while Vietnam was four years, then most of the drafties woulda went to prison.
Failcard 7 months ago
@SororThothma And most people in Vietnam volunteered. The idea that most of our GI's were conscripts is a myth.
Failcard 7 months ago
@SororThothma
Hogwash. Since there was a darn easy way of avoiding the Vietnam War, that never was truly a threat to draft dodgers. At that time, individuals who voluntarily ENLISTED were given a choice of job specialty and duty assignment (USA, Europe, etc). Only draftees were routinely sent to infantry training (or similar) and then Vietnam. Enlistees had to volunteer for it. I enlisted and spent my military tour in Europe. Draft dodgers had the same option, but dodged enlistment as well.
stewartx5 7 months ago
Which documentary was it? I would like to see it as well. Please kindly post the link if it is on Youtube or another website. Thanks.
SunDevil527 6 months ago
@imatheist might want to change your fucktarded user name since it could be interpreted as you are a theist
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
can you imagine todays college students standing up for human rights overseas? sheesh! can you imagine them doing anything pro-active against their tyrannical government? those hippy kids may have sold out now but at least they once owned balls.
777system777 1 year ago
I salute to the People of Vietnam.
AbddulJakul 1 year ago
USA AND ITS ALLIES R THE REAL FUCKER THAN THE HITLER OR STALIN BECAUSE BEFORE WW1 THE US ALLIES HAS conquered THE WORLD AND SLAVED AND MOSTLY KILLED THE PEOPLE HOW FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.AND THE WW2 IS THE KEY POINT FOR ALL SLAVE countries IN ASIA,AFRICA,ETC FOR BRITISH,French,ETC,THIS R THE TRUE REAL crimenels.THINK ABOUT IT
navinmnrk 1 year ago
@Torbon8372 to mention massacre, heh? ok, how about the My lai massacre, the rapes, ect? we said we have "freedom" and "democracy", yet on the other side of the world, we handled things like savages
jayhaoliao 1 year ago
"The colonial farmers who fired on the British troops across the Bridge of Concord intended neither war nor revolution" ...are u f***ing kidding me?! So what, they just thought that after shooting some British Regulars they would hide the bodies and no one would notice? Attention narrator: they knew very well what would happen, and I'm not sure if you know this, but when people are willing to SHOOT others for a cause, they probably don't mind going to war for it.
webworker7 1 year ago
Hey Uncle Sam!Try a repeat on china and I guess your future generation national language would be mandarin.
kikapo1974 1 year ago
@kikapo1974 ok, who would attack China out of the blue? China certainly won't attack the United States because there's too much capital invested, and the United States wouldn't attack China because there's NO REASON to do so. Even if the two did go to war, there wouldn't be a new national language afterward because a conflict of that magnitude with today's technology would demand the first use of nuclear weapons for combat since 1945...doubt too many of either side would be left.
webworker7 1 year ago
@kikapo1974 LOL well with today technology and weapons are being use in war I bet Uncle sam will force china to pay taxes to US. =0)
accordandy007 1 year ago
@accordandy007 LOL. Maybe this will happen in your dream.;)
kikapo1974 1 year ago
@kikapo1974... Well we'll see... Too soon to say anything.
accordandy007 1 year ago
@accordandy007 Sure.Till then remember to give me a mail.;)
kikapo1974 1 year ago
@kikapo1974 lol I promised.... No offend but history will repeat if china decided to invade little country around them. such as 1979 war against vietnam in Cambodia. 250,000 got owned. although the vietnamese did pulled out their troop but the price is high for china.. So imaging go against USA and we should all know by now that US will never fight by itself or on it own soils. It will be in china so the cause will be higher.. Think about it. how many peacemaker are in east asia right now?
accordandy007 1 year ago
@kikapo1974 do china even have any peacemaker in western? Guess not.. So Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam, South Korea and many other so what does china have.. Hmmmmmmm North Korea.. lol Well okay sure no problems We will win this wars in 4 years and till then Freedom will come to China, Korea and Hopefully Vietnam too. So who do China have again? Yes US will win no matter what. beside US will never fight alone.. history show that
accordandy007 1 year ago
@accordandy007 You are talking about history I suppose.How long ago was that?Let me remind you something...Times are different.We are in the space age.Do not linger on the good old past that the United State have.Empire comes and go.US dominance is coming to an end.That's a cruel but impending fact.Talking about peacemaker or alliance.In fact US have offended most of the nations in the world as the Americans always have a habit of poking their nose into others domestic affair.
kikapo1974 1 year ago
@kikapo1974 Okay and what about China? name any country like china... Well none except north Korea... Well what happened to Vietnam? isn't VietNam suppose to be one of china Ally? what happen? Well maybe you are right time change so therefore US must have a better hand this time if it ever go against China... By the way who the fuck want to be part of the Communist party... so what happen in The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. So you want this fucking communist bloodsucking machine to rule us
accordandy007 1 year ago
@accordandy007 I do not blame you for your view dude.Honestly speaking, I am well aware of your sentiments.But things may not always be what it seems.Educations and media play a big part in moudling the society.Unless you really see things for yourself.Else what you hear or taken from people are always the filtered informations.I am very well travelled.Therefore I dare to say this.I was like you before,but now I think differently.I would like you to watch a video.To be continue...
kikapo1974 1 year ago
@kikapo1974 Well I guess under the fucking greastest ruling of fucking CHINA there will be no such thing called Protest... any one who object the gov't will all burn to hell and die right....WHy dont u live in china dude.. why the fuck you live in US and Bash on american like this? This is wrong.. sorry to break it this way but china will not and never ever can be like USA. WE R #1..
accordandy007 1 year ago
@accordandy007 Go to youtube search engine type "A westerner's view of China".Click on it.Once you have finished watching the video.Give me your view.I am not saying that you will definitely change your opinion about china after watching the video.But at least for now,you know what you have been receiving from the media is only half true.You have to experience it for yourself first hand.Not just been fed by the media.Propanganda is a powerful yet destructive tool used by the west against china.
kikapo1974 1 year ago
the Netherlands doesn't have 300 pound blacks and Hispanics who live on welfare and public housing for 5 generations who's only skill is to have 5 kids with 5 different dads before the age of 23. Please take them all and let them live in your neighborhoods!!!
MrDavito2 1 year ago
It seems that if you investigate every war that American has been involved in, it was started by some 'incident' of them being attacked, when later on we find it was not true. Now we have 9/11, planes that disappeared, buildings that fell down, a million things that don't make sense. I wish the USA would become open and honest with its people so that it can grow into a country of truth. I wish the ordinary good people of USA had more power, and were not led by greed and lies.
testtube43 1 year ago
@testtube43 Now I agree that some instances such as the Gulf of Tonkin were complete BS, but are you saying that when a country is attacked (eg US sailors abducted by British prior to War of 1812, unrestricted submarine warfare/munitions sabotage by Germany prior to WW1, Pearl Harbor) that they should not defend themselves?
webworker7 1 year ago
In Vietnam Americans fought against entire Vietnam nation,that's why they lost.
50poiuyt 1 year ago
Hey dickhead president obama, maybe you should watch this shit!
fatony51 1 year ago
Speaking as an American, America is a fabric of illusions: A deceptive flow of commercials, propaganda movies and dumb TV shows; and of religious mind control made possible by amoral scientists who sell their monstrous discoveries to the highest bidder all for the sake of a little fame, fortune and/or a little T&A in the lab. Beware of atheists, beware of Bible thumpers and Jesus freaks, and beware of flag wavers - they all want to own your mind, as well as your wallet and your ass.
SororThothma 1 year ago
USA : Please stop interfering in / invading other countries. So you don't like the regime? How dare anyone else think differently to you! Who decided that you play God in world affairs? How would you feel if China had weapons beyond your comprehension and decided that America really ought to be communist and decimated your land and people. The majority of Americans are decent people who are opposed to war, so why has the US not learnt the lessons of Vietnam? Peace. Life is too short for war.
davemacc904 1 year ago
Thank you very much for posting!
SoshiHogosha 1 year ago
Where did this idiot come from. He should be quartered and hung. Insulting is an understatement for this narrator's opinions.
mdz005 1 year ago
@mdz005 were you frothing at the mouth when you typed that? What a loser you are.
srhanna 1 year ago
Kill Noam Chumpsky
NickB1967 1 year ago
the christian art work
telebusu 1 year ago
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During the 1968 Tet Offensive the communist troops infiltrated and captured dozens of towns in South VN, including the former Imperial City of Hue. People were stuck in their homes. Heavy naval and terrestrial shellings plus aerial napalm bombing had destroyed some 10,000 houses out of 17,000 in Hue. The Americans had decided to destroy the towns in order to save them. Of course, the communists were blamed for the destruction and the collateral killing of the people! Who else?
shillyshallyz 1 year ago
@Torbon8372 North Vietnam attacked US War ship in Gulf of Tonkin too! yea?
ctenar1970 1 year ago
yeah, burn your draft cards frigging wussies,
goodtotheend1 1 year ago
Very good doc on vietnam
adulttubesearch 2 years ago 25
japan doesn't have military because we don't let them, the middle east would be fine the only reason is in chaos is because of the u.s. shit you would be shooting foreign people if they told you what to do , Europe would also be fine and we aren't the last super power the soviet union fell but Russia is still super power one thing is to patriotic another is to be self center the u.s. will fall like all great empires did
roster1990 2 years ago 3
I watch all four parts of this right wing bleeding heart crap. They fail to point out that we were there because of the North East Asia Pac, like NATO an attack on members are considered an attack on all. The American Military did not lose a single battle during the war. The NVN general in this film was interviewed in the 90's and he stated they were about to surrender due to the bombings of the North, but the day before the surrender, President Johnson stopped the bombing of the north.
oldsalt1947 2 years ago
@oldsalt1947 RIGHT wing bleeding heart crap? Man, at least get your political directions straight, if you dont want to make a complete fool out of yourself.
BusterXXXL 1 year ago
The US did something okie to some countries or their allies but not Vietnam. The US did nothing good in VN and the Vietnamese had to go a long & bloody way to earn the US respect and fine bilateral relationship right now.
hantinhkiemkhach 2 years ago
im from vietnam i don`t like us amy they came to vietnam and killed civil peopel and rip all my home lands people
twiqqer 2 years ago
A country doesn't need to be communist for it's people to starve or be poor. Look around you if you live in North America. Now go to a Socialist country like The Netherlands and tell me what you see there - everyone has a job, a home and food to eat. I'm no communist by any means, but the picture that has been painted for us here in North America about what communism is, is false. Those are dictatorships. Totally different. All governments fuck the people. That's just fact.
jaxonave 2 years ago 45
True... All types of governments will fall eventually Democracy isn't the best type either and country can loose power money... It depends on the people to lead it
TonyFirelli 2 years ago
@jaxonave Have you checked the news about Greece, brah?
ot4ym 1 year ago
@jaxonave
It's unbelievable how much we get robbed of our money in NOrth America. Car insurance, cars, electricity, taxes, taxes, taxes...Work to get paid, pay to work, insurance, insurance, insurance, family insurance, testicle insurance.
GENERAL1002 1 year ago
@jaxonave Not only that, but it turns out that entire "domino theory" was a big fat farce.
It's doubtful we're told the truth about that "cold war" and exactly why communism was demonized like it was.
I'm pretty sure it had to do with the military industrial complex not having any public opinion obstructing their thousands of nuclear tests, CIA coups and a future willy nilly rampage across indochina.
MotherMagdoline 1 year ago
@jaxonave socialism is not communism, fucking idiot. socialism in netherlands is capitalism under a different name
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
@jaxonave i m also agree with u
i m indian n when i play read some book n play some games like battlefield n cod-black ops
i found that they feel communist as a terrorist
actually they hav only a different type of living n govt
ya u can find some fault in communist but some faults r in capitalist also
only due to being a communist cuba ,vietnam, nd afgan(i feel really bad bcos here only america won n the whole place destroyed)in which the millitant caused in middile east r still causing a prob
MrQwertyui12345678 1 year ago
@jaxonave
dude are you seriously implying that holland is a communist country?
WTF, we are Not communist we just redevide. the biggest earners pay most tax and that goes tot government en scocial development things(don't know if americans have a word for free money for the poor).
antirecordable 1 year ago
@jaxonave Do you know why communism fails?
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
@jamesdragonforce Communism (by definition a state- and classless society) was never reached and never will be. What you're thinking of is the marxist brand of socialism, which (just as national socialism) is just one of many forms of socialism. I don't see any mass killings and crimes perpetrated in de facto socialist western europe.
Scorpitarios 1 year ago
@Scorpitarios FYI Socialism in europe has caused major problems. The justification of things such as euthanasia and unnecessarily high taxes. Even if there weren't any mass killings in Europe, you've got a lot more looking around to do.
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
@jamesdragonforce And all the nonsense talk about free, universal healthcare is garbage. It's not "free" if you're paying for it with tax dollars.
Another thing, try the goodness of healthcare in Canada, they'll make you wait for hours on end while the government lacks the efficiency of the drug quantity/quality you demand.
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
@jamesdragonforce So, then tell me please what kind of problems socialist policies has caused in Switzerland for example? Or any other western european country? The ONLY bad thing I know about western socialism is its liberal migration policy. The rest is very good. No waiting in hospitals, good social instituions, etc.
Scorpitarios 1 year ago
@Scorpitarios You need a brain check then.
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
@jamesdragonforce No examples then, just rants.
Scorpitarios 1 year ago
@Scorpitarios Also, how is this relevant to the discussion? U.S. troops killed hundreds of thousands, mainly due to being shell-shocked, crazy, and on drugs (hey, war will do that to you, especially if you've been there way too long). The communists killed millions, so it matters not if Communism "was ever reached".
jamesdragonforce 1 year ago
@jaxonave dont drag Canada with the U.S. Canada has a lot of socialism in its society.
bougabouga 1 year ago
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Fuck Vietnam....communist!
hakawaija 2 years ago
I remember seeing this war on the evening news when I was child........1968 1975.....
balsaboy55 2 years ago 4
If you'd been fighting for a just cause you would have won. But you'd no genuine reason for being there, You lost the war and communism did'nt spread all over south east aisa which the hawks said it would if they didnt intervine. And those left wing radicals are the only reason the rest of the world holds out any hope for the future of America. you extreme right wingers are a disgrace to the memory of the greatest generation who freed europe from the Nazis. What happened to you America?
19martinbyrne68 2 years ago
watch illumanati project that will answer your question
Rudie88 2 years ago
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no because by 1975 the communists were bankrupt and increased the starvation of people in order to spend more on arms. communists destroyed vietnam, in fact, people were much better off before the communists came and destroyed. everywhere communism goes it destroys the poor people. just ask yourself: why do all nations who support america and adopt american principles and systems do better than almost all other countries?. its people like you, who hate their own country, that are the cancer....
robertsondavidcam 2 years ago
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Comments should NOT be hidden? What's the point of it open for comments? Everyone's comments should be shown openly here, without any partiality & prejudice, as a true proof of free expression & democracy.
Sinexposer 2 years ago
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The U.S. had WON many BATTLES because it had well trained armed forces & had many advance facilities & firepower, but it LOST the hearts & minds of the people. U.S. troops there were taken as foreign invaders, as some MISBEHAVED & merciless rascal U.S. Tiger soldiers who committed rapes & brutal atrocities to the innocent villagers including babies, like what had happened in My Lai & some other villages. Fortunately some were saved by a few good Americans from a helicopter that had passed by.
Sinexposer 2 years ago
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Anybody with a Mighty Military would NOT necessary WIN a war although it may had won many battles. Merciless & cruel killing of innocent civilians would anger all people around the world. The cruel Japs had raped, tortured & brutally killed many thousands & thousands of innocent Chinese & Korean civilians whom even today hate the Japs very deeply. If necessary they don't buy any Japs' products.
Sinexposer 2 years ago
Chomsly is a genious!!
jaimesandoval1988 2 years ago
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a real communist marxist nutso too ! go live in 1960`s russia asshole !
robertsondavidcam 2 years ago
Having Noam Chomsky on this video damages it credibility.
ZDWmiamicane 2 years ago
so true, he is a communist
robertsondavidcam 2 years ago
WWTF!!?
America did not support ww1 a 1000 percent!!!
They were there for one year what bullshit.
shouavaj12 2 years ago 2
he said WWII
redisbig 2 years ago
Did all this massacre and re-education happen in the US. Or did it happen in Vietnam? If it was happening in Vietnam, what was the US doing there? And what did the US achieve?
cybersurg 2 years ago 16
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Sinexposer 2 years ago
@cybersurg IRAQ
akulabite 1 year ago
"to thine own self be true" yet you took the constitution america back then and ruined it just like bush did it........have you never heard if you dont learn from the past your doomed to repeat it? Today we're to busy with our ipods to care......STOP THE MADNESS PEOPLE.......THEY DID IT BACK THEN SO DO IT NOW
Mider999 2 years ago
its a shame that there are to many redneck hicks who have been brainwashed today who would love for the war in iraq to continue.......thank goodness there wasnt any back then.......and yet the vietnam war lasted what? 30 years? how many years will iraq last......bush destroyed the economy.....why arent there people protesting? why arent there people closing down colleges why? cause your all to fucking lazy and stupid
Mider999 2 years ago 4
So incredibly true.
karlkarlkarl1234 2 years ago
This film is a piece of leftist/pacifist propaganda.
It fails to mention the savagery & inhuman acts of the communists in SE Asia before, during & after the war.
GARGLER42 2 years ago
yea man report this shit to the right wing chickenhawk draft dodging war profiteers. rush hannity nugent theyll pat you on your pointed little head and tell you your a great american
BigBishop1 2 years ago
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@BigBishop1 "yea man report this shit to the right wing chickenhawk draft dodging war profiteers. rush hannity nugent theyll pat you on your pointed little head and tell you your a great american"
I doubt it, as I'm English.
You however are a whiny little apologist for vicious communists.
Go ask uncle Ho for a bonus bottle of nuoc mam.
GARGLER42 3 months ago
Can someone tell me who made this film, when it aired? Any info please
Mathewcotter 2 years ago
thermite ring a lil bell boys? They just detected in the last 2 weeks..911 ring another bell in your lil brains? Christ, at least our Prime Minister in a moron, but not a devil like your Prez...I lost a dear friend that day...Enough with you people already....You drain our Great Lakes over our dead bodies...i CAN IMAGINE THE EMAILS WE ARE GOING TO GET TOMORROW AND THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND.
tAKE ON A WOAMN BOYS...YOU yANKS ALWAYS BITE FOR ME...LETS GO ..SUCKERS.
repelghosts 2 years ago
9/11 was done by bin ladin, not saddam
blathy 2 years ago
In 1975 last US troops fled in a helicopter from roof of US embassy, Vietnam.
kashsoldier 2 years ago
I'm not a particular fan of Chomsky, but he was right on in this clip.
exrock712 2 years ago
i meet a guy who flew helicopters in nam.. he had colon cancer from that agent orange
partyongarth420 2 years ago
See magnum photographer, Philip Jones Griffiths photographs.
he has 3 books, 'vietnam inc, agent orange and vietnam at peace'
thetttttttttttt 3 years ago
america should get the hell off its high horse and stop policing and exerting what is "right" according to its own opinions, on the rest of the world. someone else should put american in its place like america has done with so many other nations and peoples; china seems to be moving up in the economic status :) maybe in a few more years china will come kick some ...
johnbiker2015 3 years ago
America is the greatest country ever created, and is the most powerful country in the world. every country has its mistakes because its made up of human beings and we all make mistakes, just ask germany. if america is on "its high horse" its because we have earned the right. weve helped out so many other countries. france would be speaking german if it werent for us... twice. and we were the biggest factor in WWII. Germany was doing very well till we stepped in and put them in their place.
motoxrider9 3 years ago
actually north korea is right now. they have a shit load of nuclear weapons.
Sm00thGreekGuy 3 years ago
ya, china too, i dun doubt it. but we did lose vietnam bro, sadly. kicked japans ass in WWII though :D
motoxrider9 3 years ago
we didnt kick their ass we fucking raped it bloody. Over 200,000 japs dead =)
Sm00thGreekGuy 3 years ago
hahahahaha well put :D
motoxrider9 3 years ago
in a war no one wins,tell me do u win if you lose lifes in it
eg2410109 2 years ago
In WW2 the allies won and that means we are free of Nazi Rule but sacrifices are made and needed to achieve victory so yea we win so dont pull that hippy crap
SavethePandaBears 2 years ago 2
yes losing lifes is part of a war.
Sm00thGreekGuy 2 years ago
we did not lose,our gov. decided to leave the south to deal with there own mess.lets leave it at that.
mixerd0822 2 years ago
Have you consider doing some reading about nuclear weapons. North Korea has failed to test successfully a true nuclear bomb. It may have the ablitiy to create a few dirty bombs of nuclear material, but not a nuclear reaction bomb.
oldsalt1947 2 years ago
@oldsalt1947 You think you are smart sir. Well let me tell you something, your smart, a smart ass. Done some reading, I don't need to do reading. Ive seen it with my eyes. You don't know the kind of shit I have seen. No nuclear reaction, you ignorant piece of shit. You don't know what kind of weapons other countries posses, nor what your own country mister United States. It is people like you that make our country and what we stand for a shit hole. You are ignorant and uneducated.
Sm00thGreekGuy 2 years ago
they tested one last summer
Mendelevium146 2 years ago
I have shed my blood and health for this country USA. Your comments are correct, except, I believe we are lossing our power due to debt and poor leadership policies.
oldsalt1947 2 years ago
Have you considered what will happen when the USA falls from power? The USA is the last major world powers that keep many wars from occurring. Not the UN. Even the USA of America's government and way of life will be invaded, because they are to weak to defend itself. Most of Europe will face wars without the American defense troops there. Japan has no national defense organization and rely upon Americans for defense. The Middle East will become a war torn region of the world, without USA.
oldsalt1947 2 years ago
Are the the Asians simply supposed to forgive and forget!?!!?
sodoku50 3 years ago
it's not just for asians but also for everyone.
vtnsx 2 years ago
Some Americans are truly great.real upstanding citizens, which I would be proud to stand tall with, respect and care for
The other shit for brains bastards should all be gassed.
Hello FEMA serves all you fuckers Right..I pray for you Goodens that are going to get fucked in the cross fire
Pace and Love to you my brothers
xiwow 3 years ago
The American people are brave and great in the fact that they will object, dissent and protest the actions of the American government when it is in conflict with core American values. Even when threatened with police brutality and fatally shot at on college campuses. These folks are America's conscience and blessings.
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pendragonpics 3 years ago
One very senseless war.
Look at Iraq, America is not learning by his own faults.
That's not a pity, it's ashaming!
Hydrant2602 3 years ago 3
Remember that we don't all support what our government does. I think more people are against it than for it.
patrickblah 3 years ago
they will never learn because they are dumb and arrogant. They do it for their own interest and their dirty policy.
aurora2k 3 years ago
but u have to give them credit for being in a war. After all, they asked for it.
vtnsx 2 years ago