My frat has got a great hazing/fag test. We made pledges eat a peanut butter sandwich w/ pubic hairs and mayo on it. If they puke and refuse to eat it, they're out. If they don't we beat them to death for being faggots. This way our frat is only from the best of the best.
I rushed a few times (never decided to go through with it) & I can tell u it isn't true what they say about them beating u up & paddling u & shit. They do verbally make fun of u, make u clean shit, etc...but a lot of times they embarrass themselves more than u lol. One frat guy told me to clean his bathroom (which was when I decided not 2 join) so instead I got on his comp and found bi-sexual porn...HONEST TO GOD NO JOKE! I confronted him and he NEVER told me to do anything again haha
I rushed a few times (never decided to go through with it) & I can tell u it isn't true what they say about them beating u up & paddling u & shit. They do verbally make fun of u, make u clean shit, etc...but a lot of times they embarrass themselves more than u lol. One frat guy told me to clean his bathroom (which was when I decided not 2 join) so instead I got on his comp and found bi-sexual porn...HONEST TO GOD NO JOKE! I confronted him and he NEVER told me to do anything again haha
I hate how people never address the underlying problems. There's a substance abuse problem on college campuses he says. Well I wonder why... Could student loan hassles be a part of it? Or maybe overwhelming class schedules due to lack of professors? Or inadequate advisement leading to more than a 4 year stent in college? Lots stressful situations in college, and very few avenues to evaluate them. Lets just blame the students I guess...
@brokenglass Actually you can. Everyone doesn't handle stress the same. Many times bad habits are formed due to stress. We always say well this or that is a problem in America, but we hardly ever ask why. "Why" is even more of a rarity when the question is being asked in reference to how the system is in general. America basically says this is the system, deal with it and lets demonize those who can't deal with it. I say lets scrutinize the system working from the top down and see what happens.
I was in a fraternity in college, and it was one of the best things I ever did. As far as hazing goes, it really depends what it is and why it's being done. Dumping booze down a pledge's throat or doing homo-erotic shit doesn't build character or make a positive impact in any way. It's stupid. There certainly are ways to do things which are considered hazing without being embarrassing or dangerous. What the Freemasons do would be considered hazing.
This is not a greek life problem, its an American society problem. While "alcohol hazing" is certainly dangerous and should never be used, young people die all the time from alcohol abuse and only a small percentage do so in a greek environment. The fact that this country has a drinking problem is just placed on the only organized group that people can associate it with and put plame on - the Greek community.
I was hazed and the best part about it is that we got to haze the upperclassman. people are just dumb and dont know their limits. you can say no or just tell your upperclassman that youre pushing your limits and cant drink anymore. simple as that.
video provides good info on alcohol. no one should haze using alcohol. but this has nothing at all to do with fraternities that dont haze using alcohol. to relate it to fraternities in general is absurd
I am in a sorority and I am not a typical stereotypical sorority girl, Im full native american and I'm not a rich kid. In our greek community we have no tolerance for hazing. This video puts the blame on fraternities and sororities, when this isnt the only time people are hazed or die from alcoholism. I am 100 percent against hazing but this isnt a correct video about the greek community. Hazing happens in other student organizations also.
hey i totally dont agree with hazing but this video is completely bias i mean if u analyze this video ppl get drunk at parties whether is frat related or not.... i mean you can blame everything on frats and soro if most of this video is about alcoholism. People should jux take responsibility for their own actions and not go around blaming and stereotyping a curtain groups.
again im totally against hazing but this video is jux bias
I was hazed into a fraternity once. It was easy, no alcohol involved. Then I got kicked out a few weeks later for being "violent". Fraternities are gay, anyway. Kids just sign up to get pussy, but in the end, you have to get it on your own a fraternity cannot help you unless they force the girl to do it, which is illegal.
This is such bullshit, kids from all social classes die from alcohol poisoning. Only when a rich kid dies in a hazing incident at a traditional fraternity does the media actually make a national story out of it.
@brokenglassesshaner that is really untrue. It really depends on the frat and chapter. My fraternity has never forced drinking on anyone. We don't tolerate alcohol abuse. Not all fraternities are the same.
i read this story in teen vogue about this girl whose bro had an initiation thing where he had to drink 10 beers in half an hour, he subsiquently got alchol poisioning from it, if that's what u have to do to be initiated in an american college that's jst dumb.
I am a Delt and I would just like to say that I am proud that I am part of a brotherhood that truly understands that hazing is so god damn stupid, going into pledgeship I was preparing myself for the worst having heard the horror stories from some other fraternities pledgeships and it was really refreshing to see that at Delt we treat every member with the utmost respect
I'm a brother in a fraternity, and mild hazing does a lot of good things. hazing that doesnt put anyone in danger or pain. it gives the guys a lot of confidence and pride in being a brother. major hazing i am totally against though, stuff like this
i dont understand why this is funny to any of you. yes it is personal responsiblity but the other part that you are supposed to take from this video is that you need to help out a friend that is in need, this isnt a joke...so stop laughing at it like it is, im a student at cu boulder and this is an issue that is effecting our community still to this day. please do not take this subject lightly, someone you know could be in need.
Where does personal responsibility come into play for those that are being hazed. Why do people get stupid when they want to join a club. parents need to have the developmental responsibility, to maturate there children before sending them to the collegiate environment.
i have no sympathy for people that voluntarily do this kind of stuff. You obviously gotta be fucking retarded to want to to be part a group that expect to humiliate yourself and put put youself in danger. Idiot kid is probably better off dead
For those of you out there that beleive hazing is a normal part of greek life, you are wrong. At my university last week, someone almost died from alcohol poisoning. It just reconfirms my beliefs on why I chose my fraternity.
College is the shit. I went to Southern Illinois University at Carbondale which was voted by Playboy Magazine one of the top party schools in america. And It was the shit. Sad people are dying at college.
Well I'm starting college soon and don't worry I get the message. No drugs, Sex, Alcohol, and don't join any clubs. Got it!!!!! I'll be fine I'm a strong person. I know how to say NO to drugs and alcohol.
NO! I agree with the no drugs, no sex, no alcohol part. But, there are greek organizations out there that don't haze or drink alcohol. In my fraternity, FIJI, if you drink, you are underage, you are gone. Find an organization out there that meets your morals. Then decide.
here is the thing lot of these kids used to leave in a restricted environment during high school that when they reach college they became out of control
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All i can say is, i survived it, and all u pussies that cant take it, like to bitch about it and trust me i met all the pussies that backed out. Ima grab a beer and chill wit my bros!!!
im from ireland i can't even begin to understand anyone who would allow themselves to undergo any "hazing" treatment. They must know there are better people out there than those frat pricks Seems to me that these "frats" are just egosentric and i definately can't understand the mentality of someone who could do something like that to someone who is obviously just in need of some friendship. How can this even be happening. Can good really come from this kind of treatment?
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Hazing is an invaluable tradition in all legitimate college fraternities. It teaches pledges that one can't always run back to mommy and daddy when things get rough, and it's an intrinsic discovery of personal strength and moral compass. It's not just to be a bully. That boy that died in the beginning could have stopped drinking, but the fraternity brothers did not SHOVE those drinks down his throat. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Don't blame the fraternities.
if it's such an invaluable tradition, then tell me why frats get shut down when some pledge goes to the greek life committee and says "these guys hazed the hell outta me". Ill tell you why. Its because it's NOT. When pledges start pledging they have this need to be accepted, and that need leads to a weaker state of mind in which they make poor decisions. Maybe the guy did want to stop drinking but those frat brothers took advantage of his need to be accepted and CAUSED HIS DEATH.
You're a fucking idiot. If the only way I could bang Hallie Berry was to drink twenty-five beers in one night I'd say "fuck that, too dangerous." He could have said that, he could have stopped drinking, he was NOT THERE AGAINST HIS WILL and nobody forced the alcohol down his throat. Weak state of mind my ass- if he needs a fraternity's letters across his chest for him to feel confident and good about himself the kid was gonna go down one way or another. You're an idiot & I hope you choke.
the fact that u said "weak state of mind my ass" and "the kid was gonna go down either way" just shows what an insensitive scumbag u are. ur basically saying that weak minded people shouldn't be taken proper care of and are unfit for this world.
Hey faggot, weak-minded people are fit for this world. They ARE NOT, however, FIT FOR A COLLEGE FRATERNITY. It sucks the boy died but INSTEAD OF POINTING THE FINGER AT THE EASY TARGET, why not hold one responsible for one's actions? That boy died because HE was irresponsible about his drinking and it was HIS FAULT, nobody else's. A Marine dies in a battle in Iraq, do you blame the Marines? No. He signed up to fight and knew what could possibly happen. Same exact thing. Fuck you.
You're still missing the point. At least the military builds REAL character. Don't compare what goes on in greek life to what goes on in the military. Bottom line, the frat was just as much to blame because they knew, or at least I hope they knew, the risks involved. Hazing doesnt build positive character the military does. See I just found a huge hole in ur logic. Why do I even bother? Ur original comment has several thumbs down, meaning the majority disagrees with u.
Guy, so many CEOs, presidents, and politicians were once in college fraternities themselves-the same guys YOU probably admire. It builds character, morals, and maturity. Sorry if homeboy in the video couldn't take it, but either way you spin it it's still his fault. Marines build GOOD character? They're trained to kill towelheads and they subsequently go home and beat their wives and ignore their kids. Nice logic there. BTW, the military hazes HARDER than frats. Hole in YOUR logic faggot.
and what are you talikng about? I ADMIRE? How do you know who I admire?! Well u know what? None of my idols were in frats. And do u know how I know this? Cause none of my idols went to college.
"Hazing" is just a more harsh word for "bullying." Kids who didn't make it through the hazing process will always whine and complain because they're sore losers. Chapters are shut down because the university would like to avoid a lawsuit at the hands of some soft pussies. You know I own you, bitch. I never said "idol," I said "people you admire." Two completely different things. None of your idols went to college because you have no initiative to be anything more than a fucking loser. fag
I'm ending this. Hazing doesnt build good character, frat guys are to blame for these messes, and I believe the only reason ur defending hazing is cause you went through it, and u'd feel like a jackass if others didnt have to. Well ur a jackass either way. And I dont hate all frat guys, just assholes like you who think it's ok to haze overly aggressive and won't at least admit that hazers are mostly to blame. I aint answering ur shit anymore but u aint done. Someone will pik up where i left off.
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Exactly. Run like a little bitch when you get shown up. You'd be one of those little pussies that sues a fraternity because "they were mean to me." Hazing builds excellent character- I went through a shitload of it and I'm a better person for it. "Hazers" are not to blame at all. Just in the same way a road sign saying "you should go 50 miles over the speed limit" is not to blame when one crashes for actually following that guideline. You're a loser, I bet you have no friends, go jerk off.
hey dog. byrdee66 is right about everything - especially his last statement, "someone will pick up where i left off". i'm so ready to do that - but it will be a FUTILE attempt with a stereo-typical, closed-minded, aggressive, moron like yourself.
if you were to use ur arguments in court, you would have lost after your first premise
i've read all your guys's stuff and found flaws in every premise and example you gave.
for real, there are way better arguments FOR hazing than the ones u used.
CollegeBoardDotCom, everything I said about hazing is true. It builds excellent character and a strong bond between pledge brothers who all have to endure the same physical and mental strain. Without hazing, fraternities are nothing more than a glorified social club where the members go to meetings, take a few tests, meet some members and get to wear the fraternity's letters without WORKING for anything. Bitch and moan all you want, Gordie is responsible for his own death, not the fraternity.
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Yeah you're probably part of the Sigma Nu pussies who were too soft to haze and thus made it the cornerstone of their fraternity.
Fraternities haze to see if a member will be willing to put up with bullshit, thick and thin, given any circumstance. A week of no sleep, nonstop brotherhood-building activity and physical rigor. They then understand what it is to be a true BROTHER, not just a guy who shows up to meetings and fundraisers like your bitch ass.
lol, nvm about being the last comment, ur way too fun
side note:
nah i'm not part of sigma nu. i think they were suspended at my university for hazing. :P
it is an entertainment to challenge you, dawg, but super pointless. cuz the majority of what you have said has no validity. byrdee66 and i do make valid points. you just call us queer at the end of every paragraph :P
(and knowing myself, i will probably respond to you again) hahaha :P
severe hazing, like u said, is artificial brotherhood
For thinking your so smart, your grammar is atrocious.
Bottom line is: no stable, reputable chapter of any fraternity is going to force people to drink more than they're able to or do anything 'gay' or homo-erotic. Hazing builds a strong fraternal bond, but making someone drink isn't what a fraternity is all about. Making a pledge feel responsible for his pledge brothers as well as himself is a much more effective means.
@RayWilliamJohansen It's a completely different topic. When I went to Ranger school they beat us down physically, mentally, and emotionally, but it was in a controlled environment, and it was for a reason. It's designed to teach you how to deal with the riggers of combat. Fraternity hazing has no real merit behind it. It's purely entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. "It's meant to build a bond between brothers" - B.S.
You can draw a lot of parallels between fraternities and the military. A lot of fraternities rituals and hazing comes directly from military training and vice versa.
There's such a thing as effective hazing and there is such a thing as pointless hazing. Making someone drink more than they can handle is on the less effective side.
I never understood why it;s fun to draw on someone who's passed out. My brother has "geek nites" and they draw on the first person to fall asleep without trying to wake them up...and for some reason I find that more funny, especially when he only has half a curly mustashe
oh that OHHLUCKY person, you are a dumb ass. This hazing thing is a serious issue. Why would you join a frat if they are humiliating you. Why would you put yourself in that position. People liek you are so stupid. Screw the fact thats its hurting an institution, teens are dying because of this greek institution you fucking dumb ass
He had a legitimate point. Your argument is pure emotion. Obviously some people screwed up here. This happens in high school as well. Should we get rid of all public gatherings just to be safe?
To many people go to college and should think about the work force, trade school, the military etc. after high school instead of simply going simply for social reasons, wasting their parents, governments money, etc.
They largely generalize the greek system in this by pressing one issue. they don't show the things that fraternities do well and the advantages of being in one. I feel that this is very one-sided and puts the greek system in a bad light. that's like saying that all fathers are bad because a few beat their wives and children. It hurts to think that there are people out there that would want to abolish an institution. An institution they don't understand or are apart of.
it is frustrating to hear comments like this... I am a "frat boy" and I am involved in nothing like this in this video... i was never hazed and i do not haze. most fraternities are there to better men in lives... and they do some great things for the community... its something that you cant understand unless your in.. just let it be
Alcohol can be a nasty drug, people just think they can drink as much as they can and the worst they think can happen is you are sick, thats bullshit. If your so drunk you don't know what your doing there's loads of high risks like; choking on your own vomit, chances increase of getting hit by a car loads and there's loads of other various risks, compared to an illegal drug like weed which doesnt make you aggressive and the worst that can happen is your sick, alcohol is worse than weed I wreckon
This video is scary! That is a shame that people would do this and go through this just as a way to day that you are acepted. If a fraternity is suppose to be found on the principles of brotherhood then why are they hazing?...I do not understand why the guy actually went through all that just to be accepted. I would have been like hell to the no, why is it so hard to say no when they ask you to do things like that...this video is sad, but I hope it helps others to wake up..
This is sooo sad =[. My brother is in college and I really hope he doesn't join a fraternity. He is too good of a man to be brutally tortured like that. =[ I am also from Colorado and it was sad to hear how Gordie died in a Colorado University. =[
In some fraternities and sororities they brand you, beat you, make you stand naked in the snow. Everyone knows about it, no one does anything to stop it. I hope they raise more awareness about this bullshit. HAZING DOES NOT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER PENDEJOS.
ok i dont really get it, if you want to get people into your fraternity,sorority or what ever group you have why would do that shit and expect people to want to join you. I understand tryin to get loyal members but you got other ways to test determination and loyalty and not have to go to jail for it.
I saw this video this past weekend at Greek 101 during our hazing workshop and it was so awful to see how gordie's "brothers" left him like that. I'm so glad that they made this documentary to show how horrible and wrong hazing is. You shouldn't have to do it period.
CNN AND FOX ARE PROPOGANDA! This is a documentary about a friend of mine (Gordie) who died from alcohol poisoning. Everything is a choice, and this video is helping to point that out, as well as the fact that many fraternities are filled with irresponsible people.
This video is excellent! It is so sad how people have to suffer through this in high school and college! Hopefully, if the general public raises more awareness about hazing, maybe people would be kinder to each other because in reality, were all human who deserve to live a good life.
My frat has got a great hazing/fag test. We made pledges eat a peanut butter sandwich w/ pubic hairs and mayo on it. If they puke and refuse to eat it, they're out. If they don't we beat them to death for being faggots. This way our frat is only from the best of the best.
ebonics4everyone 1 month ago
this is what happens when you DO NOT drink properly... like gentlemen :D
MrPartizanac 1 month ago
@MrPartizanac well then you just dont have to proper mainers! `:)
Megancalls5000 1 month ago
It looks like 45 people didnt get a bid.
tginn07 3 months ago
.......depends on how much liqour there wuz tho.....LOL
slurpahhhh 3 months ago
I wud have poured out the liqour I cud not finish
slurpahhhh 3 months ago
Damn College you scary!
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Danni112084 8 months ago
greek life honestly disgusts me
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I rushed a few times (never decided to go through with it) & I can tell u it isn't true what they say about them beating u up & paddling u & shit. They do verbally make fun of u, make u clean shit, etc...but a lot of times they embarrass themselves more than u lol. One frat guy told me to clean his bathroom (which was when I decided not 2 join) so instead I got on his comp and found bi-sexual porn...HONEST TO GOD NO JOKE! I confronted him and he NEVER told me to do anything again haha
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I rushed a few times (never decided to go through with it) & I can tell u it isn't true what they say about them beating u up & paddling u & shit. They do verbally make fun of u, make u clean shit, etc...but a lot of times they embarrass themselves more than u lol. One frat guy told me to clean his bathroom (which was when I decided not 2 join) so instead I got on his comp and found bi-sexual porn...HONEST TO GOD NO JOKE! I confronted him and he NEVER told me to do anything again haha
jms8220 11 months ago
My chapter doesn't haze, we push a lot of work their way but no hazing.
EdwardIVV 11 months ago
why doesnt anyone haze with paddles anymore? SERIOUSLY!!!! whack a freshman a few times then hang out with them..... NO REAL HARM DONE!!!
werewolfnomore44 11 months ago
We need Dexter.
ninjaboyjeff 1 year ago 2
I hate how people never address the underlying problems. There's a substance abuse problem on college campuses he says. Well I wonder why... Could student loan hassles be a part of it? Or maybe overwhelming class schedules due to lack of professors? Or inadequate advisement leading to more than a 4 year stent in college? Lots stressful situations in college, and very few avenues to evaluate them. Lets just blame the students I guess...
raventakayama 1 year ago
@raventakayama you cant use that as an excuse i mean seriously .. yes these are major problems , but come on get real
brokenglassesshaner 10 months ago
@brokenglass Actually you can. Everyone doesn't handle stress the same. Many times bad habits are formed due to stress. We always say well this or that is a problem in America, but we hardly ever ask why. "Why" is even more of a rarity when the question is being asked in reference to how the system is in general. America basically says this is the system, deal with it and lets demonize those who can't deal with it. I say lets scrutinize the system working from the top down and see what happens.
raventakayama 10 months ago
I was in a fraternity in college, and it was one of the best things I ever did. As far as hazing goes, it really depends what it is and why it's being done. Dumping booze down a pledge's throat or doing homo-erotic shit doesn't build character or make a positive impact in any way. It's stupid. There certainly are ways to do things which are considered hazing without being embarrassing or dangerous. What the Freemasons do would be considered hazing.
elsquibbs 1 year ago
This is not a greek life problem, its an American society problem. While "alcohol hazing" is certainly dangerous and should never be used, young people die all the time from alcohol abuse and only a small percentage do so in a greek environment. The fact that this country has a drinking problem is just placed on the only organized group that people can associate it with and put plame on - the Greek community.
kylejames512 1 year ago 2
"hazing builds character"
bullshit statement. saying this is like saying getting raped or sexually harassed builds character.
hard work and dedication build character.
genreband6 1 year ago
SHUT UP PLEDGE
Buraizokembu 1 year ago 9
I was hazed and the best part about it is that we got to haze the upperclassman. people are just dumb and dont know their limits. you can say no or just tell your upperclassman that youre pushing your limits and cant drink anymore. simple as that.
OhiosOnlyFrankie 1 year ago
it's not hazing, it's aMAZING!
nmmeyer9922 1 year ago
video provides good info on alcohol. no one should haze using alcohol. but this has nothing at all to do with fraternities that dont haze using alcohol. to relate it to fraternities in general is absurd
tdawg211 1 year ago
I am in a sorority and I am not a typical stereotypical sorority girl, Im full native american and I'm not a rich kid. In our greek community we have no tolerance for hazing. This video puts the blame on fraternities and sororities, when this isnt the only time people are hazed or die from alcoholism. I am 100 percent against hazing but this isnt a correct video about the greek community. Hazing happens in other student organizations also.
MsBarbie23323 1 year ago
hey i totally dont agree with hazing but this video is completely bias i mean if u analyze this video ppl get drunk at parties whether is frat related or not.... i mean you can blame everything on frats and soro if most of this video is about alcoholism. People should jux take responsibility for their own actions and not go around blaming and stereotyping a curtain groups.
again im totally against hazing but this video is jux bias
chubbybaby132 1 year ago
Hazing is just an excuse for people to act like animals.
RoyaleInliner 1 year ago 3
I was hazed into a fraternity once. It was easy, no alcohol involved. Then I got kicked out a few weeks later for being "violent". Fraternities are gay, anyway. Kids just sign up to get pussy, but in the end, you have to get it on your own a fraternity cannot help you unless they force the girl to do it, which is illegal.
michaelencarnacion 1 year ago
Frats are fucking stupid to begin with what purpose do they have?
DavidToddSchiesler 1 year ago
This kid got owned.
Boehm815 1 year ago
This is such bullshit, kids from all social classes die from alcohol poisoning. Only when a rich kid dies in a hazing incident at a traditional fraternity does the media actually make a national story out of it.
bluedonkeyboxer 1 year ago
this is why WEED SHOULD BE LEGAL.
you can't die from it
frankie1089 1 year ago
@frankie1089 HAHAHAHAHAH LOVE THIS RESPONSE
blhafer02134 1 year ago
nerds go to frats , they used to be cool , its just losers wanting to buy freinds
brokenglassesshaner 1 year ago
@brokenglassesshaner that is really untrue. It really depends on the frat and chapter. My fraternity has never forced drinking on anyone. We don't tolerate alcohol abuse. Not all fraternities are the same.
rjkahlon 1 year ago
hazing is so funny aahha
LosChe85 1 year ago
i read this story in teen vogue about this girl whose bro had an initiation thing where he had to drink 10 beers in half an hour, he subsiquently got alchol poisioning from it, if that's what u have to do to be initiated in an american college that's jst dumb.
dolly32112 2 years ago
I am a Delt and I would just like to say that I am proud that I am part of a brotherhood that truly understands that hazing is so god damn stupid, going into pledgeship I was preparing myself for the worst having heard the horror stories from some other fraternities pledgeships and it was really refreshing to see that at Delt we treat every member with the utmost respect
TheModularMan 2 years ago 5
from Iota Nu chapter at FAU we have men that come into college with the worst ideas bout hazing and its refreshing for them
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from Iota Nu chapter at FAU we have men that come into college with the worst ideas bout hazing and its refreshing for them
kwgolf1 1 year ago
Stupid kids(and I'm 13 btw). How can they do that to someone? Does it make them feel better about themselves or something?
dejahenry711 2 years ago
I'm a brother in a fraternity, and mild hazing does a lot of good things. hazing that doesnt put anyone in danger or pain. it gives the guys a lot of confidence and pride in being a brother. major hazing i am totally against though, stuff like this
NCxRaiseup 2 years ago
i dont understand why this is funny to any of you. yes it is personal responsiblity but the other part that you are supposed to take from this video is that you need to help out a friend that is in need, this isnt a joke...so stop laughing at it like it is, im a student at cu boulder and this is an issue that is effecting our community still to this day. please do not take this subject lightly, someone you know could be in need.
tkiss22 2 years ago
lol they showed us this on my last day of High School
Proflutzn 2 years ago
nice light thing to watch on yr last day lol
dolly32112 2 years ago
@dolly32112 I love the Delts. What chapter r u?
rjkahlon 1 year ago
Prep ass motherfuckers.
anythingnew 2 years ago
Where does personal responsibility come into play for those that are being hazed. Why do people get stupid when they want to join a club. parents need to have the developmental responsibility, to maturate there children before sending them to the collegiate environment.
security5 2 years ago
i have no sympathy for people that voluntarily do this kind of stuff. You obviously gotta be fucking retarded to want to to be part a group that expect to humiliate yourself and put put youself in danger. Idiot kid is probably better off dead
mrLANDO 2 years ago
It was not until something similar to this happened to myself and to my best friend for me to wake up to the horrible event drinking can create.
If you do not have a drinking problem or even if you enjoy drinking PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
THIS PROBLEM CAN EFFECT MANY LIVES WITHOUT THEM EVEN KNOW ITS COMING!!
Kevdog2834 2 years ago
Only in America
cantryss 2 years ago
that is not true... the Nordic countries have very serious alcohol problems and all over the world... don't be so quick to jump on the US like that
btw I'm not american
KRONA6666 2 years ago
America actually has the least binge drinking problem for any first world country in the world.
DAPESKO 2 years ago
frats are gay.
calebblock 2 years ago 5
For those of you out there that beleive hazing is a normal part of greek life, you are wrong. At my university last week, someone almost died from alcohol poisoning. It just reconfirms my beliefs on why I chose my fraternity.
friedmanrc 2 years ago 15
@friedmanrc you obviously dont go to a school in the south...
nmmeyer9922 1 year ago
College is the shit. I went to Southern Illinois University at Carbondale which was voted by Playboy Magazine one of the top party schools in america. And It was the shit. Sad people are dying at college.
TooRealForTV 2 years ago
Well I'm starting college soon and don't worry I get the message. No drugs, Sex, Alcohol, and don't join any clubs. Got it!!!!! I'll be fine I'm a strong person. I know how to say NO to drugs and alcohol.
09tranm 2 years ago 2
NO! I agree with the no drugs, no sex, no alcohol part. But, there are greek organizations out there that don't haze or drink alcohol. In my fraternity, FIJI, if you drink, you are underage, you are gone. Find an organization out there that meets your morals. Then decide.
friedmanrc 2 years ago
Thats funny, because a kid at Penn State died after leaving fiji fucked up out of him mind a week ago, and I drink there all the time.
timmy1767 2 years ago
here is the thing lot of these kids used to leave in a restricted environment during high school that when they reach college they became out of control
alvrez0409 2 years ago
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All i can say is, i survived it, and all u pussies that cant take it, like to bitch about it and trust me i met all the pussies that backed out. Ima grab a beer and chill wit my bros!!!
Chi Upsilon Zeta Bitch!!!!!!!!!!!
brandonhuerta 2 years ago
you are an ignorant bitch. What a waste of a human life.
mymello 2 years ago 2
Agh, this made me thirsty.
Gonna go grab a cold one.
JuciestPineapple 2 years ago
*drinks beer while watching documentary*
xxxFaustusxxx 2 years ago 2
This is complete BS towards fraternities. The hazing issue needs to be more widespread through ALL organizations in this country.
Shmeurung9 2 years ago
THANK you. At least ONE other person in this comment list got a bid in college.
frewski 2 years ago
im from ireland i can't even begin to understand anyone who would allow themselves to undergo any "hazing" treatment. They must know there are better people out there than those frat pricks Seems to me that these "frats" are just egosentric and i definately can't understand the mentality of someone who could do something like that to someone who is obviously just in need of some friendship. How can this even be happening. Can good really come from this kind of treatment?
dtutwahaf 2 years ago
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dtutwahaf 2 years ago
Did it not occur to the pledges to just pour the drinks into the dirt?
fallenangel20327 2 years ago 3
some get locked in cars where theres no dirt
Byrdee66 2 years ago
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andygarcia69 2 years ago
Gordie's faking it.
muir020 2 years ago
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Hazing is an invaluable tradition in all legitimate college fraternities. It teaches pledges that one can't always run back to mommy and daddy when things get rough, and it's an intrinsic discovery of personal strength and moral compass. It's not just to be a bully. That boy that died in the beginning could have stopped drinking, but the fraternity brothers did not SHOVE those drinks down his throat. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Don't blame the fraternities.
frewski 2 years ago
if it's such an invaluable tradition, then tell me why frats get shut down when some pledge goes to the greek life committee and says "these guys hazed the hell outta me". Ill tell you why. Its because it's NOT. When pledges start pledging they have this need to be accepted, and that need leads to a weaker state of mind in which they make poor decisions. Maybe the guy did want to stop drinking but those frat brothers took advantage of his need to be accepted and CAUSED HIS DEATH.
Byrdee66 2 years ago
You're a fucking idiot. If the only way I could bang Hallie Berry was to drink twenty-five beers in one night I'd say "fuck that, too dangerous." He could have said that, he could have stopped drinking, he was NOT THERE AGAINST HIS WILL and nobody forced the alcohol down his throat. Weak state of mind my ass- if he needs a fraternity's letters across his chest for him to feel confident and good about himself the kid was gonna go down one way or another. You're an idiot & I hope you choke.
frewski 2 years ago
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Byrdee66 2 years ago
blah blah blah blah
hey frewski
kill urself u fucking frat rat
Byrdee66 2 years ago
and btw
the fact that u said "weak state of mind my ass" and "the kid was gonna go down either way" just shows what an insensitive scumbag u are. ur basically saying that weak minded people shouldn't be taken proper care of and are unfit for this world.
seriously! either kill urself or find religion.
I'd prefer the first, but theres ur alternative.
Byrdee66 2 years ago
Hey faggot, weak-minded people are fit for this world. They ARE NOT, however, FIT FOR A COLLEGE FRATERNITY. It sucks the boy died but INSTEAD OF POINTING THE FINGER AT THE EASY TARGET, why not hold one responsible for one's actions? That boy died because HE was irresponsible about his drinking and it was HIS FAULT, nobody else's. A Marine dies in a battle in Iraq, do you blame the Marines? No. He signed up to fight and knew what could possibly happen. Same exact thing. Fuck you.
frewski 2 years ago
Oh jeez he's crying!
You're still missing the point. At least the military builds REAL character. Don't compare what goes on in greek life to what goes on in the military. Bottom line, the frat was just as much to blame because they knew, or at least I hope they knew, the risks involved. Hazing doesnt build positive character the military does. See I just found a huge hole in ur logic. Why do I even bother? Ur original comment has several thumbs down, meaning the majority disagrees with u.
Byrdee66 2 years ago 2
Guy, so many CEOs, presidents, and politicians were once in college fraternities themselves-the same guys YOU probably admire. It builds character, morals, and maturity. Sorry if homeboy in the video couldn't take it, but either way you spin it it's still his fault. Marines build GOOD character? They're trained to kill towelheads and they subsequently go home and beat their wives and ignore their kids. Nice logic there. BTW, the military hazes HARDER than frats. Hole in YOUR logic faggot.
frewski 2 years ago
You still didnt answer my original question. Why is it that commitees can shut frats down when they get word of hazing?
Byrdee66 2 years ago
and what are you talikng about? I ADMIRE? How do you know who I admire?! Well u know what? None of my idols were in frats. And do u know how I know this? Cause none of my idols went to college.
Byrdee66 2 years ago
"Hazing" is just a more harsh word for "bullying." Kids who didn't make it through the hazing process will always whine and complain because they're sore losers. Chapters are shut down because the university would like to avoid a lawsuit at the hands of some soft pussies. You know I own you, bitch. I never said "idol," I said "people you admire." Two completely different things. None of your idols went to college because you have no initiative to be anything more than a fucking loser. fag
frewski 2 years ago
I'm ending this. Hazing doesnt build good character, frat guys are to blame for these messes, and I believe the only reason ur defending hazing is cause you went through it, and u'd feel like a jackass if others didnt have to. Well ur a jackass either way. And I dont hate all frat guys, just assholes like you who think it's ok to haze overly aggressive and won't at least admit that hazers are mostly to blame. I aint answering ur shit anymore but u aint done. Someone will pik up where i left off.
Byrdee66 2 years ago 23
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Exactly. Run like a little bitch when you get shown up. You'd be one of those little pussies that sues a fraternity because "they were mean to me." Hazing builds excellent character- I went through a shitload of it and I'm a better person for it. "Hazers" are not to blame at all. Just in the same way a road sign saying "you should go 50 miles over the speed limit" is not to blame when one crashes for actually following that guideline. You're a loser, I bet you have no friends, go jerk off.
frewski 2 years ago
hey dog. byrdee66 is right about everything - especially his last statement, "someone will pick up where i left off". i'm so ready to do that - but it will be a FUTILE attempt with a stereo-typical, closed-minded, aggressive, moron like yourself.
if you were to use ur arguments in court, you would have lost after your first premise
i've read all your guys's stuff and found flaws in every premise and example you gave.
for real, there are way better arguments FOR hazing than the ones u used.
CollegeBoardDotCom 2 years ago 2
CollegeBoardDotCom, everything I said about hazing is true. It builds excellent character and a strong bond between pledge brothers who all have to endure the same physical and mental strain. Without hazing, fraternities are nothing more than a glorified social club where the members go to meetings, take a few tests, meet some members and get to wear the fraternity's letters without WORKING for anything. Bitch and moan all you want, Gordie is responsible for his own death, not the fraternity.
frewski 2 years ago
i promise myself that this will be my last comment to U.
what creates leadership/character is SERVICE to the frat/community and critical thinking.
btw, haven't you learned about causation and correlation?
hazing DOES NOT CAUSE leadership
someone became a leader after being hazed = CORRELATION
i'm in a frat. and i feel connected with my bros. i didn't have to haze. (which i wish they did - just not w/ homo-erotic/alcoholic means)
gordie &the frat were both responsible. he shud of depledged
CollegeBoardDotCom 2 years ago 3
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Yeah you're probably part of the Sigma Nu pussies who were too soft to haze and thus made it the cornerstone of their fraternity.
Fraternities haze to see if a member will be willing to put up with bullshit, thick and thin, given any circumstance. A week of no sleep, nonstop brotherhood-building activity and physical rigor. They then understand what it is to be a true BROTHER, not just a guy who shows up to meetings and fundraisers like your bitch ass.
Go choke on a cock you queer.
frewski 2 years ago
lol, nvm about being the last comment, ur way too fun
side note:
nah i'm not part of sigma nu. i think they were suspended at my university for hazing. :P
it is an entertainment to challenge you, dawg, but super pointless. cuz the majority of what you have said has no validity. byrdee66 and i do make valid points. you just call us queer at the end of every paragraph :P
(and knowing myself, i will probably respond to you again) hahaha :P
severe hazing, like u said, is artificial brotherhood
CollegeBoardDotCom 2 years ago 3
i agree but you look like a faggot i know 12 "queers" how could beat you ass
so yah
nightmare060isfaggot 2 years ago
For thinking your so smart, your grammar is atrocious.
Bottom line is: no stable, reputable chapter of any fraternity is going to force people to drink more than they're able to or do anything 'gay' or homo-erotic. Hazing builds a strong fraternal bond, but making someone drink isn't what a fraternity is all about. Making a pledge feel responsible for his pledge brothers as well as himself is a much more effective means.
ryanschan 2 years ago
ur some loser u know that
brokenglassesshaner 1 year ago
@Byrdee66
i sort of agree with you
but i think its okay to haze in the marine corps
RayWilliamJohansen 10 months ago
@RayWilliamJohansen It's a completely different topic. When I went to Ranger school they beat us down physically, mentally, and emotionally, but it was in a controlled environment, and it was for a reason. It's designed to teach you how to deal with the riggers of combat. Fraternity hazing has no real merit behind it. It's purely entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. "It's meant to build a bond between brothers" - B.S.
steve8388 8 months ago
That's why all people with authority fuck everything up.
anythingnew 2 years ago
You can draw a lot of parallels between fraternities and the military. A lot of fraternities rituals and hazing comes directly from military training and vice versa.
ryanschan 2 years ago
frats, and what they stand for are not bad. but hazing should stop, there is absolutely no point for them
Amathew107 2 years ago 3
There's such a thing as effective hazing and there is such a thing as pointless hazing. Making someone drink more than they can handle is on the less effective side.
ryanschan 2 years ago
I never understood why it;s fun to draw on someone who's passed out. My brother has "geek nites" and they draw on the first person to fall asleep without trying to wake them up...and for some reason I find that more funny, especially when he only has half a curly mustashe
gigglebabi2768 2 years ago
oh that OHHLUCKY person, you are a dumb ass. This hazing thing is a serious issue. Why would you join a frat if they are humiliating you. Why would you put yourself in that position. People liek you are so stupid. Screw the fact thats its hurting an institution, teens are dying because of this greek institution you fucking dumb ass
Aztec6women 2 years ago
He had a legitimate point. Your argument is pure emotion. Obviously some people screwed up here. This happens in high school as well. Should we get rid of all public gatherings just to be safe?
ryanschan 2 years ago
To many people go to college and should think about the work force, trade school, the military etc. after high school instead of simply going simply for social reasons, wasting their parents, governments money, etc.
sketchyinc 2 years ago 4
stupid frat arseholes
caramellokoala84 2 years ago
aaaaaah College....What a trip...
JohnnyStarScream 2 years ago
They largely generalize the greek system in this by pressing one issue. they don't show the things that fraternities do well and the advantages of being in one. I feel that this is very one-sided and puts the greek system in a bad light. that's like saying that all fathers are bad because a few beat their wives and children. It hurts to think that there are people out there that would want to abolish an institution. An institution they don't understand or are apart of.
ohhlucky 3 years ago
They should show this video in high school.
peppermint23 3 years ago 2
it is frustrating to hear comments like this... I am a "frat boy" and I am involved in nothing like this in this video... i was never hazed and i do not haze. most fraternities are there to better men in lives... and they do some great things for the community... its something that you cant understand unless your in.. just let it be
whalerfanforever 2 years ago
Alcohol can be a nasty drug, people just think they can drink as much as they can and the worst they think can happen is you are sick, thats bullshit. If your so drunk you don't know what your doing there's loads of high risks like; choking on your own vomit, chances increase of getting hit by a car loads and there's loads of other various risks, compared to an illegal drug like weed which doesnt make you aggressive and the worst that can happen is your sick, alcohol is worse than weed I wreckon
jbird3232 3 years ago
This video is scary! That is a shame that people would do this and go through this just as a way to day that you are acepted. If a fraternity is suppose to be found on the principles of brotherhood then why are they hazing?...I do not understand why the guy actually went through all that just to be accepted. I would have been like hell to the no, why is it so hard to say no when they ask you to do things like that...this video is sad, but I hope it helps others to wake up..
pclinksc 3 years ago 4
This is sooo sad =[. My brother is in college and I really hope he doesn't join a fraternity. He is too good of a man to be brutally tortured like that. =[ I am also from Colorado and it was sad to hear how Gordie died in a Colorado University. =[
puglover94 3 years ago
Was that fraturnatie a top tier on the campus?
sarv2011 3 years ago
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this video is hilarious
lulzyhorn 3 years ago
No It's Not It's Sickning. You Just Nedd More Attention Because If You Ment That Then Seriously Your Going To End Up Dead At 18
xXcRysTalXx243 2 years ago
And you need some grammar lessons. Or maybe, just stop using random capitals. Grow up.
ryanschan 2 years ago
In some fraternities and sororities they brand you, beat you, make you stand naked in the snow. Everyone knows about it, no one does anything to stop it. I hope they raise more awareness about this bullshit. HAZING DOES NOT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER PENDEJOS.
salsera68 3 years ago
ok i dont really get it, if you want to get people into your fraternity,sorority or what ever group you have why would do that shit and expect people to want to join you. I understand tryin to get loyal members but you got other ways to test determination and loyalty and not have to go to jail for it.
Blurryvisions 3 years ago
I saw this video this past weekend at Greek 101 during our hazing workshop and it was so awful to see how gordie's "brothers" left him like that. I'm so glad that they made this documentary to show how horrible and wrong hazing is. You shouldn't have to do it period.
upfreely 3 years ago
propaganda.
bobiton65 3 years ago
CNN AND FOX ARE PROPOGANDA! This is a documentary about a friend of mine (Gordie) who died from alcohol poisoning. Everything is a choice, and this video is helping to point that out, as well as the fact that many fraternities are filled with irresponsible people.
homad123 3 years ago
Hazing and binge drinking. So unhealthy. So wrong. So dumb when college has so much more to offer. I like this video.
bruintran 3 years ago
This video is excellent! It is so sad how people have to suffer through this in high school and college! Hopefully, if the general public raises more awareness about hazing, maybe people would be kinder to each other because in reality, were all human who deserve to live a good life.
liveforeverindreams 3 years ago