be worried about robot hackers that can do some serious damage hehe. never know. i wonder if i will be here by the time robots walk the streets or is in everyhome .
technology evolves and society along with it. for those who think robots wont be very common in the future just ask a older person like your granparents if they thought people will use so much computers or that so many exist today
Whenever strong Artificial Intelligence emerges, it will be unlike any other technology that we have ever created as a species. The creation, or even the evolution of our minds to their equivalent (whichever comes first), will be leaps and bounds more significant than any other technology to date.
One of these technologies is unlike the rest:
An airplane, a gps unit, a nasa rocket and an artificial brain.
The brain has conceived every single technology we have ever created!
For as long as humanity has been conscious, there have always been ignorant people who lust for dystopia, they revel on how bad things must be. Most of these pessimists intellectually masturbate on the ideas of the End of Days and revel in drowning everyone around them with their mucous memes.
Through history, pessimists have laid there babbling and doing little to change things
If we relied on the pessimists for progress, we'd all be doomed. Let us instead take the energy they waste on pondering dystopia and use those fears for identifying potential problems, in order to prepare and fix those promptly.
Those who have dared to think beyond the memes that limited us for centuries, and have creatively moved forth are mostly the minds that have improved the human condition.
The advancement of technology will lead to one of several futures. Ludditism will prevail and a new Theocratic Dark Age will begin (Deus Ex Deus). We will wipe out ourselves with mass warfare(Extinction). We will become a race of genetically advance superhuman (Deus Ex Anthropos). We will make intelligent machines, and they will destroy us (Cyber rebellion). Or we will blur the line between man/machine and a become cyberbiotic species(Deus Ex Machina). Which would you prefer? plz respond
popecorkyxxiv, thanks for your comment. Those are potential possibilities, but the future is not limited to those. It might turn out to be a wild mixture of a few of those, with different flavors becoming a reality in different regions of wherever intelligence may be found.
I am expecting the equivalent of a Technological Cambrian Explosion, resulting in a massive variety within the posthuman. I prefer humanity evolving to gain the computational abilities that were once thought only to be achievable by Artificial Intelligence. Blur the line between and Man/Machine. I see all matter regardless of its nature, as having a singular common point of origin in this Universe. I expect life and intelligence, to proliferate within the animate and inanimate.
i belive in that humanity in order to survive the destiny among the stars we must upgrade to humanity 2.0. a race of being who have the imagination and creativity of humanity and the immortality of cybernetics.
I highly disagree. I feel that religion should not be a ruler of the world but rather as a companion in man's quest for true divinity. Stating that Islam will rule the world in the future puts you in the public perspective of a stereotypical radical Muslim. I feel that the creation of technology is completely coherent to the fact that man is willing to shortcut human intelligence and create is hurting the world as we lose our truth to the essences of life.
Hi MMCC47. Were you replying to Izzetpasadangelme's religious babble?
Can you expand on that last part of your comment:
"I feel that the creation of technology is completely coherent to the fact that man is willing to shortcut human intelligence and create is hurting the world as we lose our truth to the essences of life."
If you are looking for a time frame, I suggest you start by reading the Age of the Spiritual Machines, and the time tables in the book The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil.
Hopefully, artificial intelligence will not feel the same way about you as you do about them today, should the need ever arise for you to continue your own evolution, by incorporating various of the innovations or evolutionary pathways they will choose for themselves should they achieve transhuman intelligence.
The tables could be turned, my friend, and some day, it might be us, who by conscious evolution, aim to resemble our creation's own humanity.
If you'll notice, American research in humanoid robots tend to be ugly (not cute or friendly looking). This is because the American intent for military use, not civilian. Typical American mindset.
We are re-evolving artificial minds at ten million times the original speed of human evolution, exponentially growing robot complexity. Currently, a guppylike thousand MIPS and hundreds of megabytes of memory enable our robots to build dense, almost photorealistic 3D maps of their surroundings and navigate intelligently. Within three decades, fourth-generation universal robots with a humanlike 100 million MIPS will be able to abstract and generalize--perhaps replace us.
That is one option, however short-sighted it may be.
That would ofcourse defeat the whole purpose of having peace. The best path is usually not the easiest one. We should be able to find many more alternatives to ending political conflict, so that it does not lead to violence.
Thanks. I'm really glad you enjoy the videos. There are a lot more at Thoughtware dot tv :-)
I'd like to know what you mean by religion. Transhumanism is most definitely not a religion. Are you referring to the concept of the singularity or something similar?
If you mean people replacing their life goal from serving a deity or deities (religion) to serving humanity in order to increasing knowledge, advance science, education and technological progress, then, hey I'm all up for it.
that don't make sense. you favor IA over AI yet you want to become AI? I think what you are trying to say is AI is the ultimate goal but currently the technology is not good enough to go directly to AI yet, thus the intermediate step up is to go IA and once there proceed to AI. correct me if I'm wrong.
what do you mean become AI? do you concider uploading becoming AI? What is 'artificial' in your lexicon? If you could harden your neurons so you couldn't be 'squished' and that involved backup systems with bounce back protocals and were consantly updated new. do you have a problem with that?
no i don't have problems with that. My lexicon of AI is a designed thinking machine instead of one based on nature and evolution. Personally, I don't prefer one over the other, because I do not know their capabilites(as they don't exist yet). It is my belief that we should choose the path/system that allows us(civilization) to make progress the fastest. which I think AI will fullfill better than an augmented brain.
"Transhumanism is way more interesting than Artificial Intelligence. I favor IA (Intelligent Augmentation) over AI. Human Intelligence should rise above and beyond machine intelligence. We should race to become the first strong AI IMHO."
I'm suggesting IA are likely to evolve as uploaded minds. I hope uploaded human minds lead the race in the coming intelligence explosion.
...and yes. I think we should most definitely race and challenge machines and any forms of intelligence that face us, but via -friendly- competitions. Peaceful challenges and competitions should be set to drive progress without leading to dangerous conflicts. If we achieve this, the intelligent explosion will likely be fun and full of adventure.
ya, i don't see us getting the 'compasionate' proggrammed into AGI rapidly or accurately or in any failsafe manner. I've read a few papers on 'freindly' and even the best don't seem to come anywhere near close enough for me to be con=mfortable with it. so i'm more or less resigned to humanity births AI but dies in labor.
I do think its important there are people investing and devoting their research to achieving friendly AGI, but there are also heavy investments on unfriendly AI. When the time comes I think the future will see wild varieties at both sides of the spectrum and even more in-between.
i'd like to have a remote colony setup sooner rather than later for contingencies you know? but how can that happen? space is just soo expencive what can we do?
If anyone wants to read the book he's talking about by George Orwell (also author of 1984 and the one who coined up Big Brother), the book is oline at google books com
Well its important to take Ray Kurzweils predictions with a grain of salt. Skepticism is not to be underrated, its an important facet of progress. However to say rate of technological change is anything but exponential or beyond is silly. I am old enough to remember the very fisrt PCs, before the internet, before BBs. However on the skeptical side I assumed back then that there would be colonization of Mars by now.
One of the main reasons for technological leap is war. Now I would be very interested in what twisted way we will use (or already using) robotic intelligence.
I see far more applications of robotic intelligence outside of warfare. Warfare is a force in the development of these technologies, but I would hope the goal for these technological leaps would be aimed at something else.
Regardless, we will use advancements in knowledge that comes from warfare research, for robotic implementations in other fields.
Indeed I agree with you, but however the "destroying mind" is always at work, to find new, refined means to bring havoc. I am just curios for WHAT they are researching robots. DARPA (google it) is being funded billions every year just for this goal.
Yeah I know about DARPA, they comission advanced research for the Department of Defense. They research the stuff of dreams in terms of warfare.
Darpa is an example of how war technology can have an impact in society and technology research. That for me is the only thing posistive about warfare research. Youtube came to be as it is today because of DARPA research. Most people dont know that.
I already told you that I agree... unfortunately war research also (and foremost) brings eventually good things... (computers were researched in the first place to calculate trajectory for bombs). However I still wonder in which way robotics will employed on the battlefield
Yeah, I agree with you too. Although I think war research only boosted the development of computers, since computers already existed in more primitive forms.
Offense and Defense Research definitely boosts a lot of scientific research and technology. It not so much war, but the desire to be ready for it, I think.
Electric eyes (cameras) that communicate over the Internet, retinal implants, merge between brain and cameras that allowed the blind to have sight. Cochlear implants that allowed the deaf to hear.. and more..
In our times the pace of progress, thanks to technological and scientific advancements, is accelerating.
The "exponential acceleration of technology" is largely a fallacy. Go read Bob Seidensticker's "Future Hype: The Myths of Technology Change", Ted Modis' "The Singularity Myth", listen to some of Douglas Hofstadter's conference speeches and visit H.P. LaLancette's "Infeasible" site for some serious rebuttals.
And by the way, you do not need exponential acceleration of technology for these things to come to be. We're talking about technologies that are well underway and currently being developed or improved upon.
It just so happens that there is an exponential acceleration of technology. There is empirical evidence since before 1965 that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit for minimum component cost doubles every 24 months.
While you can't deny Moore's law, many have stated that Moore's law would end many times in the past, and yet, it has to continued to hold to this day.
The Law of Accelerating Returns extends Moore's law to describe an exponential growth of technological progress.
I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree. If you consider technological rate to be lineal, it might take a longer time, but the potential to happen is there. If you believe technological progress is completely random, then it could well happen tomorrow.
Regardless of whether or not you believe in exponential technological progress, we already have advanced fields of Science and Technology with much potential and making amazing breakthroughs. There are algorithms evolving and mimicking biology and many different fields of science that are converging.
I have seen the trends and I understand the pace of progress to be exponential. I am aware of what this could mean for the evolution of consciousness and intelligence.
They saw from the creation of cars, to men in space cars across the moon, to robots exploring Mars controlled from a planet away.
They saw the birth of computers, the nuclear age, computer networks, the Internet, the birth of weak artificial intelligence, the World Wide Web, e-commerce, the web 2.0, computers that could analyze text and speech, super computers, moore's law, computers that could create art, beat humans at chess, etc.
From an age of horseback as transport to the development of advanced bicycles evolved into motorcycles, diesel, gasoline, hydrogen and solar powered cars, simple airplanes to autopilot and airplanes that could take off and land by themselves.
They lived through the time in which the only species that could fly were birds to the moment in which men evolved through technology the ability to fly, and eventually when technology could fly by itself. In only a few decades, the convergence of technology and knowledge in different fields led to the birth of the space age, in which men were able to survive in space.
These are amazing technological leaps that often go unnoticed by those who claim things are impossible.
Your grandparents saw how from a single airplane, humanity leaped into exploring and flying through the atmosphere of other planets, and venturing into deep space.
They saw how an International Space Agency was Built, how a telescope floated above the earth allowing us to see back in time.
They learned that space bends, that the universe was expanding, all in a few decades.
Machines are obsolete by design. It's just a matter of time.
Rob187ok 1 year ago
be worried about robot hackers that can do some serious damage hehe. never know. i wonder if i will be here by the time robots walk the streets or is in everyhome .
ricktzer 2 years ago
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demolisher91 2 years ago
Nice that robotics will look more like humans, because more and more humans look like robotics.
Allyredstar 2 years ago 2
fuck yeah
folypers 2 years ago
technology evolves and society along with it. for those who think robots wont be very common in the future just ask a older person like your granparents if they thought people will use so much computers or that so many exist today
runXner12 2 years ago
@runXner12
Well said my friend. : )
thoughtwaretv 2 years ago
@atheistcapitalist
Whenever strong Artificial Intelligence emerges, it will be unlike any other technology that we have ever created as a species. The creation, or even the evolution of our minds to their equivalent (whichever comes first), will be leaps and bounds more significant than any other technology to date.
One of these technologies is unlike the rest:
An airplane, a gps unit, a nasa rocket and an artificial brain.
The brain has conceived every single technology we have ever created!
thoughtwaretv 2 years ago
its not our future its the robots future
ifk6666 3 years ago
Wall-E
SimGretina 3 years ago
Oh shut upp about your fairytales.
Elvenass 3 years ago
For as long as humanity has been conscious, there have always been ignorant people who lust for dystopia, they revel on how bad things must be. Most of these pessimists intellectually masturbate on the ideas of the End of Days and revel in drowning everyone around them with their mucous memes.
Through history, pessimists have laid there babbling and doing little to change things
thoughtwaretv 3 years ago
If we relied on the pessimists for progress, we'd all be doomed. Let us instead take the energy they waste on pondering dystopia and use those fears for identifying potential problems, in order to prepare and fix those promptly.
Those who have dared to think beyond the memes that limited us for centuries, and have creatively moved forth are mostly the minds that have improved the human condition.
thoughtwaretv 3 years ago
It is you who are mistaking about a great many things! Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen!! lol..
bramcorleone 3 years ago
The advancement of technology will lead to one of several futures. Ludditism will prevail and a new Theocratic Dark Age will begin (Deus Ex Deus). We will wipe out ourselves with mass warfare(Extinction). We will become a race of genetically advance superhuman (Deus Ex Anthropos). We will make intelligent machines, and they will destroy us (Cyber rebellion). Or we will blur the line between man/machine and a become cyberbiotic species(Deus Ex Machina). Which would you prefer? plz respond
popecorkyxxiv 4 years ago 2
popecorkyxxiv, thanks for your comment. Those are potential possibilities, but the future is not limited to those. It might turn out to be a wild mixture of a few of those, with different flavors becoming a reality in different regions of wherever intelligence may be found.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I am expecting the equivalent of a Technological Cambrian Explosion, resulting in a massive variety within the posthuman. I prefer humanity evolving to gain the computational abilities that were once thought only to be achievable by Artificial Intelligence. Blur the line between and Man/Machine. I see all matter regardless of its nature, as having a singular common point of origin in this Universe. I expect life and intelligence, to proliferate within the animate and inanimate.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I totally agree on this one! I really like to see diversity increase even further than it is today to a point which is currently unimaginable!
bramcorleone 3 years ago 5
i belive in that humanity in order to survive the destiny among the stars we must upgrade to humanity 2.0. a race of being who have the imagination and creativity of humanity and the immortality of cybernetics.
redrevenger89 3 years ago 4
I highly disagree. I feel that religion should not be a ruler of the world but rather as a companion in man's quest for true divinity. Stating that Islam will rule the world in the future puts you in the public perspective of a stereotypical radical Muslim. I feel that the creation of technology is completely coherent to the fact that man is willing to shortcut human intelligence and create is hurting the world as we lose our truth to the essences of life.
MMCC47 4 years ago
Hi MMCC47. Were you replying to Izzetpasadangelme's religious babble?
Can you expand on that last part of your comment:
"I feel that the creation of technology is completely coherent to the fact that man is willing to shortcut human intelligence and create is hurting the world as we lose our truth to the essences of life."
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
If you are looking for a time frame, I suggest you start by reading the Age of the Spiritual Machines, and the time tables in the book The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil.
Also see: The Law of Accelerating Returns
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
i am not looking forward to having trouble distinguishing robots from humans.
ragagaga 4 years ago
Hopefully, artificial intelligence will not feel the same way about you as you do about them today, should the need ever arise for you to continue your own evolution, by incorporating various of the innovations or evolutionary pathways they will choose for themselves should they achieve transhuman intelligence.
The tables could be turned, my friend, and some day, it might be us, who by conscious evolution, aim to resemble our creation's own humanity.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
If you'll notice, American research in humanoid robots tend to be ugly (not cute or friendly looking). This is because the American intent for military use, not civilian. Typical American mindset.
Tristar10h 4 years ago
That is not always the norm. :)
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
we will make robots part of our future, and they will do our household work, our killing and for some they will be best/only friends.
laugensohn 4 years ago 2
Robots are going to kill us due to an error, Our skys will be filled with polution. We will try to find a way to live in mars but fail.
RegiSeuga 4 years ago
that is awfully pessimistic of you.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
By Hans Moravec
We are re-evolving artificial minds at ten million times the original speed of human evolution, exponentially growing robot complexity. Currently, a guppylike thousand MIPS and hundreds of megabytes of memory enable our robots to build dense, almost photorealistic 3D maps of their surroundings and navigate intelligently. Within three decades, fourth-generation universal robots with a humanlike 100 million MIPS will be able to abstract and generalize--perhaps replace us.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
That is one option, however short-sighted it may be.
That would ofcourse defeat the whole purpose of having peace. The best path is usually not the easiest one. We should be able to find many more alternatives to ending political conflict, so that it does not lead to violence.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
Thanks. I'm really glad you enjoy the videos. There are a lot more at Thoughtware dot tv :-)
I'd like to know what you mean by religion. Transhumanism is most definitely not a religion. Are you referring to the concept of the singularity or something similar?
If you mean people replacing their life goal from serving a deity or deities (religion) to serving humanity in order to increasing knowledge, advance science, education and technological progress, then, hey I'm all up for it.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I'm not saying its going to be perfect, but it does have the potential to make things a lot better. :-)
we just need to work hard enough and want it bad enough! And specially, stand up against injustice and ignorance.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I agree. Transhumanism is way more interesting than Artificial Intelligence.
I favor IA (Intelligent Augmentation) over AI (Artificial Intelligence).
Human Intelligence should rise above and beyond machine intelligence. We should race to become the first strong AI IMHO.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
that don't make sense. you favor IA over AI yet you want to become AI? I think what you are trying to say is AI is the ultimate goal but currently the technology is not good enough to go directly to AI yet, thus the intermediate step up is to go IA and once there proceed to AI. correct me if I'm wrong.
progenitor00 4 years ago
what do you mean become AI? do you concider uploading becoming AI? What is 'artificial' in your lexicon? If you could harden your neurons so you couldn't be 'squished' and that involved backup systems with bounce back protocals and were consantly updated new. do you have a problem with that?
damianpoirier 4 years ago
no i don't have problems with that. My lexicon of AI is a designed thinking machine instead of one based on nature and evolution. Personally, I don't prefer one over the other, because I do not know their capabilites(as they don't exist yet). It is my belief that we should choose the path/system that allows us(civilization) to make progress the fastest. which I think AI will fullfill better than an augmented brain.
progenitor00 4 years ago
I'm sure AI will help us evolve in leaps and bounds...but when it comes to conscious evolution, I rather be as close to the wheel as possible.
When it comes to survival, racing to the top of the intelligence chain sounds to great me :)
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
also just in case you didn't read the comments, I was replying to someone instead of ranting.
progenitor00 4 years ago
count me in!
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
When I sated:
"Transhumanism is way more interesting than Artificial Intelligence. I favor IA (Intelligent Augmentation) over AI. Human Intelligence should rise above and beyond machine intelligence. We should race to become the first strong AI IMHO."
I'm suggesting IA are likely to evolve as uploaded minds. I hope uploaded human minds lead the race in the coming intelligence explosion.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
...and yes. I think we should most definitely race and challenge machines and any forms of intelligence that face us, but via -friendly- competitions. Peaceful challenges and competitions should be set to drive progress without leading to dangerous conflicts. If we achieve this, the intelligent explosion will likely be fun and full of adventure.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
ya, i don't see us getting the 'compasionate' proggrammed into AGI rapidly or accurately or in any failsafe manner. I've read a few papers on 'freindly' and even the best don't seem to come anywhere near close enough for me to be con=mfortable with it. so i'm more or less resigned to humanity births AI but dies in labor.
damianpoirier 4 years ago
I do think its important there are people investing and devoting their research to achieving friendly AGI, but there are also heavy investments on unfriendly AI. When the time comes I think the future will see wild varieties at both sides of the spectrum and even more in-between.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
i'd like to have a remote colony setup sooner rather than later for contingencies you know? but how can that happen? space is just soo expencive what can we do?
damianpoirier 4 years ago
it is conceivable, but we can't allow it. Thats why education and the end of political conflicts are so crucial.
We all have to do our part...soon.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
Interesting point you make there about Tvs being kind of nannies. If they were smarter, perhaps they could do a better job.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
i hate robots... :(
GreenSword15 4 years ago
You hate your washing machine? Not all robots are created equal.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
"Not all robots are created equal."
aye, but some are more equal than others.
great vid! 5/5
i thouroughly apprve your optimism.
damianpoirier 4 years ago 2
that don't make sense
progenitor00 4 years ago
"progenitor00: that don't make sense"
Hi progenitor00. What doesn't make sense? That not all robots are created equal?
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
He probably never heard of or read the book. It would be confusing to most anyone hearing it for the first time.
FYI
"All animals are created equall, but some are more equall than others" was a quote from "Animal Farm"
damianpoirier 4 years ago
Ah, thanks damianpoirier :)
If anyone wants to read the book he's talking about by George Orwell (also author of 1984 and the one who coined up Big Brother), the book is oline at google books com
Just search for Animal Farm.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I was pretty sure it was orwell but i thought with the ease of looking things up these day, what the hey :-)
damianpoirier 4 years ago
Hey Damian, you should join us at Thoughtware TV :)
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
cool thanks :-)
damianpoirier 4 years ago
robot hooker FTW
rmeddy1 4 years ago
Well its important to take Ray Kurzweils predictions with a grain of salt. Skepticism is not to be underrated, its an important facet of progress. However to say rate of technological change is anything but exponential or beyond is silly. I am old enough to remember the very fisrt PCs, before the internet, before BBs. However on the skeptical side I assumed back then that there would be colonization of Mars by now.
Gr3mpy123 4 years ago
yeah dude, reality happens
rmeddy1 4 years ago
You probably assumed all these without sitting down, crunching numbers and analyzing enough data. :-)
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
One of the main reasons for technological leap is war. Now I would be very interested in what twisted way we will use (or already using) robotic intelligence.
camorramerda 4 years ago
I see far more applications of robotic intelligence outside of warfare. Warfare is a force in the development of these technologies, but I would hope the goal for these technological leaps would be aimed at something else.
Regardless, we will use advancements in knowledge that comes from warfare research, for robotic implementations in other fields.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
Indeed I agree with you, but however the "destroying mind" is always at work, to find new, refined means to bring havoc. I am just curios for WHAT they are researching robots. DARPA (google it) is being funded billions every year just for this goal.
camorramerda 4 years ago
Yeah I know about DARPA, they comission advanced research for the Department of Defense. They research the stuff of dreams in terms of warfare.
Darpa is an example of how war technology can have an impact in society and technology research. That for me is the only thing posistive about warfare research. Youtube came to be as it is today because of DARPA research. Most people dont know that.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I already told you that I agree... unfortunately war research also (and foremost) brings eventually good things... (computers were researched in the first place to calculate trajectory for bombs). However I still wonder in which way robotics will employed on the battlefield
camorramerda 4 years ago
Yeah, I agree with you too. Although I think war research only boosted the development of computers, since computers already existed in more primitive forms.
Offense and Defense Research definitely boosts a lot of scientific research and technology. It not so much war, but the desire to be ready for it, I think.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
Darpa, formerly known as ARPA, created the ARPA net, which eventually transformed into what we now call the Internet.
Darpa is now researching Human Machine integration. How will this impact our lives? This is the topic of my next video.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
Electric eyes (cameras) that communicate over the Internet, retinal implants, merge between brain and cameras that allowed the blind to have sight. Cochlear implants that allowed the deaf to hear.. and more..
In our times the pace of progress, thanks to technological and scientific advancements, is accelerating.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
The "exponential acceleration of technology" is largely a fallacy. Go read Bob Seidensticker's "Future Hype: The Myths of Technology Change", Ted Modis' "The Singularity Myth", listen to some of Douglas Hofstadter's conference speeches and visit H.P. LaLancette's "Infeasible" site for some serious rebuttals.
AD2080 4 years ago
Technological change is not accelerating? Tell that to my old cellphone :)
I read Future Hype, I ordered the ebooks you recommended.
I would like you to read moore's law and the law of accelerating returns, check out the age of the spiritual machines.
I stated the pace of technological progress is quickening. This is not a fallacy.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
And by the way, you do not need exponential acceleration of technology for these things to come to be. We're talking about technologies that are well underway and currently being developed or improved upon.
It just so happens that there is an exponential acceleration of technology. There is empirical evidence since before 1965 that the number of transistors on an integrated circuit for minimum component cost doubles every 24 months.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
While you can't deny Moore's law, many have stated that Moore's law would end many times in the past, and yet, it has to continued to hold to this day.
The Law of Accelerating Returns extends Moore's law to describe an exponential growth of technological progress.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
I respect your opinion, but respectfully disagree. If you consider technological rate to be lineal, it might take a longer time, but the potential to happen is there. If you believe technological progress is completely random, then it could well happen tomorrow.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
Regardless of whether or not you believe in exponential technological progress, we already have advanced fields of Science and Technology with much potential and making amazing breakthroughs. There are algorithms evolving and mimicking biology and many different fields of science that are converging.
I have seen the trends and I understand the pace of progress to be exponential. I am aware of what this could mean for the evolution of consciousness and intelligence.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
They saw from the creation of cars, to men in space cars across the moon, to robots exploring Mars controlled from a planet away.
They saw the birth of computers, the nuclear age, computer networks, the Internet, the birth of weak artificial intelligence, the World Wide Web, e-commerce, the web 2.0, computers that could analyze text and speech, super computers, moore's law, computers that could create art, beat humans at chess, etc.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
This will not happen in our lifetimes.
AD2080 4 years ago
No? You should not make the mistake of saying for certain what will or will not happen in our lifetimes.
The pace of progress is quickening.
Consider what our predecessors have seen. Consider what our grandparents and great grandparents alive today have seen and achieved...
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
From an age of horseback as transport to the development of advanced bicycles evolved into motorcycles, diesel, gasoline, hydrogen and solar powered cars, simple airplanes to autopilot and airplanes that could take off and land by themselves.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
They lived through the time in which the only species that could fly were birds to the moment in which men evolved through technology the ability to fly, and eventually when technology could fly by itself. In only a few decades, the convergence of technology and knowledge in different fields led to the birth of the space age, in which men were able to survive in space.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago
These are amazing technological leaps that often go unnoticed by those who claim things are impossible.
Your grandparents saw how from a single airplane, humanity leaped into exploring and flying through the atmosphere of other planets, and venturing into deep space.
They saw how an International Space Agency was Built, how a telescope floated above the earth allowing us to see back in time.
They learned that space bends, that the universe was expanding, all in a few decades.
thoughtwaretv 4 years ago