Democracy and freedom are often confused to be the same. Freedom is not only about being free from a "government" or sovereign entity but also freedom from a highly exploiting capitalist system.
USA fits exactly into the latter. A nation where money can buy people out of the court system on to an alleviated staged above the legal system.
A nation where corporate interests are held above people's lives. e.g War on Iraq has killed millions for OIL.
Chinese government provides MORE incentive than the American government to provide people with the opportunity to become richer
this guy is just a loser who couldnt live a good life in China
Its never the government's fault if u r poor. Look at the poor black people in America for example. They might go to China and become rich basketball players
Maybe you don't have eyes, but it is your deal host Chinese Communist Party's word, the distance between rich and poor in China is getting large in a high speed. He didn't say the reason, but the Chinese officers are getting public money more crazily.
CPC also clamps down on the Chinese people whose human rights have been infringed upon while clamps down on Tibet protestors. I don't think these unti-China job is something good for me. But it may benefit you and CPC, who exploit Chinese like slaves without mercy.
What you said sounds good, but it is not the fact what CPC is doing. You live in HongKong, don't you? I live in mainland, I know the human rights of Chinese.
We don't have vote rights, superintendence rights, liberty of speech. It is funny for you to say western devils. Although most Chinese don't care about westerner, their human rights have been infringed upon. Don't tell me they are murder,rape, theft. Is only CPC good in China?
if ur human rights is infringed in mainland, how can u be here criticising CPC?
btw HK has no vote. Liberty of speech is restricted by every government.
I respect CPC because of its improvement in people's lives overall. The denial of food is the ultimate human rights abuse of them all and it would have been impossible to achieve our economic growth without CPC.
Democracy spends too much time in discussion. I'd rather see fake action than to see no action.
Here is not China, here's youtube, whose servers belongs to American. Maybe you forgot youtube had been shield by CPC for some years. HK has no votes since CPC deprived of that since 1997. Few country restricts liberty of speech as CPC because CPC anti-China and also China's democracy. Without turning in large amount to CPC to let it commit embezzlement, Chinese people will certainlly improve their life. You'd better see more China's actuality but not some strange saying.
"HK has no votes since CPC deprived of that since 1997" - HK NEVER had the right to vote under the British system. The Queen simply appoints a governer to HK and thats it. Now, HK has become a partial democracy with a small amount of people voting.
o btw.. be pessimistic if u want but WE WILL become the richest and most POWERFUL nation on earth soon.
U r probably some pan green supporter wishing CCP falls so that you can get your independence.
HK has no votes, but it should have under the rule of CPC, shouldn't it? It is our human rights.
CPC won't lead China to richest totally. Only the CPC officers have the right to be rich without hard-working, because the money is from people, but people don't have the right to supervise the officers.
I am a not green supporter but a blue supporter. Our great country ROC was born since 1912 with the blood of Chinese revolutionists of and she will come back to mainland and lead China to strong!
I fear you are a Taiwanese Pan Green Supporter using Democracy as a mere excuse to weaken the PRC. Even if we lose Taiwan... who cares right??? We still have 97% of Chinese land.
If your eyes are not clear enough and can not see my previous comment , then once again shall I tell you: I come from mainland China, Taiwan is one part of China, I am a blue supporter. Does your eyes work well this time?
怎么样才能加入后援会？ 我也不想回国了，怎么才能留下来呢？ 英语不好噢~~~~~~
miejuewumao 1 year ago
以民為主就是目前最理想的制度.
TheLinmukaho 2 years ago
人民共和国建立之初 共产党建立了民主 但后来民主变了质 最后甚至蜕变成某种独裁 就是因为没有监督力量 赞赏杨教授 关于不做暴民的论述 杨教授具有很好的民主素养 比柴小姐鼓吹暴力好太多了
blue365365 2 years ago 2
暴力可以推翻共产党 但暴力只对打破旧势力有用 对民主的建立几乎没用 看看当年国民党的例子 看看共产党的例子 如果共产党不暴力推翻国民党 而是保留国民党 双方互相尊重 相互监督 这样才可能真正保证民主的建立
blue365365 2 years ago 2
孙中山先前依赖军阀求民主，失败了。清醒后用暴力打破旧世界，建立新中国。所以只有暴力才能推翻共产党的妖魔统治，这是唯一的道路。不用暴力是幻想，不现实。
fankangzhe1 3 years ago
ROC sux
Pan Blue supporter is the same as Pan Independence supporter except u guys want to act like we gotta go through conditions before reunification.
I'd rather not unify than to see democracy in China. Chinese democracy is impossible.
PRCForever 3 years ago
@PRCForever roc 难道不是中国人历史的一部分。ROC有什么问题值得你如此仇恨。意识形态白痴。
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Democracy and freedom are often confused to be the same. Freedom is not only about being free from a "government" or sovereign entity but also freedom from a highly exploiting capitalist system.
USA fits exactly into the latter. A nation where money can buy people out of the court system on to an alleviated staged above the legal system.
A nation where corporate interests are held above people's lives. e.g War on Iraq has killed millions for OIL.
USA is definitely not a moral nation
PRCForever 3 years ago
haha
Chinese government provides MORE incentive than the American government to provide people with the opportunity to become richer
this guy is just a loser who couldnt live a good life in China
Its never the government's fault if u r poor. Look at the poor black people in America for example. They might go to China and become rich basketball players
PRCForever 3 years ago
Chinese government only provides rich opportunity to the officers or their relations. It is not fair for the others
caremoon123 3 years ago
That is capitalism
Capitalism is all about personal relations where rich people get together and get even richer
PRCForever 3 years ago
Maybe you don't have eyes, but it is your deal host Chinese Communist Party's word, the distance between rich and poor in China is getting large in a high speed. He didn't say the reason, but the Chinese officers are getting public money more crazily.
caremoon123 3 years ago
owell who cares
Chineses till are dependent on CPC for many great services. Also CPC clamps down on Free Two Bed protestors which is good for the rest of us.
PRCForever 3 years ago
CPC also clamps down on the Chinese people whose human rights have been infringed upon while clamps down on Tibet protestors. I don't think these unti-China job is something good for me. But it may benefit you and CPC, who exploit Chinese like slaves without mercy.
caremoon123 3 years ago
Chinese will only get their human rights infringed upon if they infringe on other people's rights first.
Murder, rape, theft are all deserving of imprisonment.
Collaborating with Western devils is also treason which hurts China economically and socially. Therefore the HR guys deserve to be killed.
PRCForever 3 years ago
What you said sounds good, but it is not the fact what CPC is doing. You live in HongKong, don't you? I live in mainland, I know the human rights of Chinese.
We don't have vote rights, superintendence rights, liberty of speech. It is funny for you to say western devils. Although most Chinese don't care about westerner, their human rights have been infringed upon. Don't tell me they are murder,rape, theft. Is only CPC good in China?
caremoon123 3 years ago
if ur human rights is infringed in mainland, how can u be here criticising CPC?
btw HK has no vote. Liberty of speech is restricted by every government.
I respect CPC because of its improvement in people's lives overall. The denial of food is the ultimate human rights abuse of them all and it would have been impossible to achieve our economic growth without CPC.
Democracy spends too much time in discussion. I'd rather see fake action than to see no action.
PRCForever 3 years ago
Here is not China, here's youtube, whose servers belongs to American. Maybe you forgot youtube had been shield by CPC for some years. HK has no votes since CPC deprived of that since 1997. Few country restricts liberty of speech as CPC because CPC anti-China and also China's democracy. Without turning in large amount to CPC to let it commit embezzlement, Chinese people will certainlly improve their life. You'd better see more China's actuality but not some strange saying.
caremoon123 3 years ago
"HK has no votes since CPC deprived of that since 1997" - HK NEVER had the right to vote under the British system. The Queen simply appoints a governer to HK and thats it. Now, HK has become a partial democracy with a small amount of people voting.
o btw.. be pessimistic if u want but WE WILL become the richest and most POWERFUL nation on earth soon.
U r probably some pan green supporter wishing CCP falls so that you can get your independence.
PRCForever 3 years ago
HK has no votes, but it should have under the rule of CPC, shouldn't it? It is our human rights.
CPC won't lead China to richest totally. Only the CPC officers have the right to be rich without hard-working, because the money is from people, but people don't have the right to supervise the officers.
I am a not green supporter but a blue supporter. Our great country ROC was born since 1912 with the blood of Chinese revolutionists of and she will come back to mainland and lead China to strong!
caremoon123 3 years ago
你要是中国人就讲汉语吧。
caremoon123 3 years ago
why should i bother writing chinese to u??
i only use chinese with real chinese
pro democracy chinese arent human to me
PRCForever 3 years ago
You can't answer my questions because of your fear. At last you have to say, pro democracy Chinese aren't human to you. Fine, you little loser.
caremoon123 3 years ago
Yes I do fear you.
I fear you are a Taiwanese Pan Green Supporter using Democracy as a mere excuse to weaken the PRC. Even if we lose Taiwan... who cares right??? We still have 97% of Chinese land.
PRCForever 3 years ago
If your eyes are not clear enough and can not see my previous comment , then once again shall I tell you: I come from mainland China, Taiwan is one part of China, I am a blue supporter. Does your eyes work well this time?
caremoon123 3 years ago