knew these guys since the good ol days with conca,wow what a whirlwind you took us all on,still a fan at 63,their music will always be a reminder of the days on Sunset and the setting sun,R.I.P.all of you,hey Echols,unit 5 was a bore when you left,but you had heart,so did the rest,what a shame,,I,m still alive,so is Micheal,love the book,and your old Porshe,the red one!!in 69?Love lives in our heart.DD
you can still blow,specially in our heads,grew up on your music,gigs,Bito Lito,s,Moulin Rouge,Whisky,Filmore,thank God we can still find you guys on cds
I don't know man. I'm sure he influenced Jimi, but this sounds very influenced by Jimi also. Especially if this was released in 72. I'll even admit my dearly beloved JB would rip off people back who originally ripped him off to sound even bigger and badder. It's not always, but often a 2 way street. I have my issues when it comes to sampling, but I'll still admit it can be done tastefully.
Man " Forever Changes " is wonderful and great, because it is wonderful and great. Not because " many of todays musicans cite it as (such) an influence".
I don´t see Forever Changes as masterpiece. It´s too complicated, boring, not enough good melodies. Just technical playing around. I don´t say anything against the musicians, they´re brilliant, but the compositions just aren´t so brilliant. I´m not surprised that the Doors overtook them very easily, because they had the killer songs.
Yes, I know. But I can´t help it, it did not impress me at all. See my comment. But of course Love was an interesting band any way, I don´t have anything against them, really.
Funny you should say that. Ron Asheton cited Love as one of his faves. By the way, it was Arthur Lee that got the Doors their record contract with Elektra and he helped them on to their success.
Forever changes is in the top 10 of the most influential sixties rock albums, up there with the Beatles' Sergeant Pepper's and Beach Boys Pet Sounds. Where's your album?
Close my eyes and I hear Jimi about the time of Are You Experienced, in which case I say Vindicator, toward the end, I also heard Cream. Am I the only one?
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considering Vindicator was released in 1972 you may want to check your head....Arthur more likely was influenced by Jimi Hendrix. I've heard Love songs back to 1966 and Arthur Leee was nowhere close to doing anything Hendrix was doing ion 1967 or even by 1972. Good music, good player, no Hendrix not even close. Get real.
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Arthur prbably dabbled in Satanism since the band Love lived at the Spiral Staircase in Cali., probably hung out with Manson too...there's some feel good vibes for ya.
You get real, Hendrix was a great guitar player, but he was no Arthur Lee when it came to song writing or composition. When Hendrix hit the scene Love was already on their second album. My guess is Vindicator (a minor work for Lee) was a deliberate tribute to Hendrix's sound - the two were friends and intended to team up, but it never happened. Arthur Lee never made 2 albums that sounded the same - but he was definitely the original black psychedelic rocker who lead the way for Hendrix.
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Lee's tone is questionable, the riffs are basic blues cops, and nothing special. That's why you don't hear his music anymore, that's why guitarists except for very few spend any time listening to his very mundane riffs and spend almost no time studying Lee. Hendrix influenced guitar music forever, Lee is a footnote. That's real...
Lee probably took too much acid and hung out with too many Manson freaks to get his act together. Real = He's a footnote.
@w0smith Firstly i agree Arthur Lee is one of the greatest songwriters ever but i always get riled up when someone puts down Hendrix as a writer/composer. Jimi was a master composer - Castles Made of Sand, Axis, Angel, One Rainy Wish, House Burning Down, Straight Ahead, Little Wing etc. etc. etc. are up there with anything Arthur has ever done lyrically & as for constructing songs in a studio setting no one even touches Hendrix. (THEN OR NOW)
Lee recorded as far back as 63 on Capitol. Cant judge lee by this album(even though great), which sounds nothing like the original line-up. Forever Changes, one of Brian Wilson's fave albums so nuff said. if the original line-up were to kept it together LOVE would of been a powerhouse through out the 70's..looped daily along with Zep n Floyd on dreaded classic rock stations today.
@neduddgi Love TOTALLY %100 paved the way for The Doors, Aurthur Lee prob inspired Hendrix as a black man not having to play the blues or R&B, but Hendrix ultimately was his own flame.
@neduddgi Right they were. I think Love didn't toured much and that was part of the problem .. maybe bigger than what we think. Just a note of interest: Art was around Neil and Buffalo Springfield during production of their fine records and Art asked Neil to produce Love Forever Changes. Neil is the best but I am glad Neil just didn't show up.
Well I don't think arthur lee was a main influence to jimi hendrix. in this song you actually hear that jimi was an influence to arthur, since this song was recorded in 1972
All of these silly people running around talking about Ramones and Sex Pistols as the founders of punk know nothing. After Arthur, there was a great band called MC5 that followed in his punky, hard style...
@musikfanat It's a fight for the photo finish between Love, The Music Machine("Talk, Talk"), T and the Velvet Underground touring with Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable. What's this? The Who's "My Generation" a length ahead with the date 1965. OK, we'll allow for the fact that it didn't hit our airwaves for long months after that.
@fgldnglbs Well, the Who was essentially trying to play RnB, the Velvets were trying to play RnB (the intro from There She Goes Again was from a Marvin Gaye song) and didn't record until 2 years after Love. Music Machine's first recording wasn't until '66. Arthur was already going up and down Sunset Blvd. with one shoe on and granny glasses in '64. He gave Jimi Hendrix his first recording session in '64...
@MePJtheDJ yeah he's right. i was around then, listened to love, the hendrix and altho there was some back and forth byt this point, and particularly in this song, Lee is copying Hendrix more than Hendrix ever was influenced by Lee.
That's probably true, but if nothing else this record speaks to the breadth of Lee's genius and versatility... I mean, who would believe that the guy who did this is the same guy who wrote and sang on "You Set the Scene" (one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded) and, before that, something as trippy as "She Comes in Colors"?
Arthur Lee was a major and totally underrated musician.
we miss him !
greta1643 1 month ago
This is NOT the version from the Vindicator album !!!!!!!!!!!!
pbstratocaster 2 months ago
knew these guys since the good ol days with conca,wow what a whirlwind you took us all on,still a fan at 63,their music will always be a reminder of the days on Sunset and the setting sun,R.I.P.all of you,hey Echols,unit 5 was a bore when you left,but you had heart,so did the rest,what a shame,,I,m still alive,so is Micheal,love the book,and your old Porshe,the red one!!in 69?Love lives in our heart.DD
deni1149 3 months ago
you can still blow,specially in our heads,grew up on your music,gigs,Bito Lito,s,Moulin Rouge,Whisky,Filmore,thank God we can still find you guys on cds
deni1149 3 months ago
a bluesman, this ROCKS!!!
TheRealTommyRock 4 months ago
he sounds exactly like jimi hendrix.exactly.maybe its jimi?
srekazinskas 7 months ago
I have VINDICATOR. This is a different version. Who's that playing lead guitar?
jacksterner 1 year ago
@jacksterner , that's Charlie Karp of Slo Leak on guitar. He also played with Buddy Miles.
muncher64 7 months ago
I don't know man. I'm sure he influenced Jimi, but this sounds very influenced by Jimi also. Especially if this was released in 72. I'll even admit my dearly beloved JB would rip off people back who originally ripped him off to sound even bigger and badder. It's not always, but often a 2 way street. I have my issues when it comes to sampling, but I'll still admit it can be done tastefully.
RikJamezBich 1 year ago
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RastafariPoet 1 year ago
arthurs angel dust days.
gittahfiend 1 year ago
this rocks awesome - madly awesome - never heard this solo stuff before! listen to LOVE since I was 13 : )
mydnyc 1 year ago
That's blues guitarist Charlie Karp on guitar.
muncher64 1 year ago
love "forever changes" isnt that good? dont be so stupid, is that why so many of todays musicans cite it as such an influence
tjversion7 1 year ago
Man " Forever Changes " is wonderful and great, because it is wonderful and great. Not because " many of todays musicans cite it as (such) an influence".
nassreiskulturen 1 year ago 5
C'est du tonnerre!
donarias82 1 year ago
At 1:58-two of the Greatest in music, EVER!!!
musikfanat 2 years ago
nice to see this track on Youtube!
JoeChrisMorris 2 years ago
I don´t see Forever Changes as masterpiece. It´s too complicated, boring, not enough good melodies. Just technical playing around. I don´t say anything against the musicians, they´re brilliant, but the compositions just aren´t so brilliant. I´m not surprised that the Doors overtook them very easily, because they had the killer songs.
ashetonpop 2 years ago
um, isn't Forever Changes considered to be LoVE's peak?
JoeChrisMorris 2 years ago
Yes, I know. But I can´t help it, it did not impress me at all. See my comment. But of course Love was an interesting band any way, I don´t have anything against them, really.
chainrelease 2 years ago
Forever changes is in the top 10 of the most influential sixties rock albums, up there with the Beatles' Sergeant Pepper's and Beach Boys Pet Sounds.
musikfanat 2 years ago 4
Funny you should say that. Ron Asheton cited Love as one of his faves. By the way, it was Arthur Lee that got the Doors their record contract with Elektra and he helped them on to their success.
Forever changes is in the top 10 of the most influential sixties rock albums, up there with the Beatles' Sergeant Pepper's and Beach Boys Pet Sounds. Where's your album?
musikfanat 2 years ago
Close my eyes and I hear Jimi about the time of Are You Experienced, in which case I say Vindicator, toward the end, I also heard Cream. Am I the only one?
Observerx10 2 years ago
even though i actually love Jimi's voice, Lee was tops. Lenny Kravitz totally knocked off Lee's yelp n scream.
Danyelli1976 2 years ago 4
who cares who was first...forever changes is a masterpiece...written primarily by a 21 year old arthur...think about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
lloydyherbal 2 years ago
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considering Vindicator was released in 1972 you may want to check your head....Arthur more likely was influenced by Jimi Hendrix. I've heard Love songs back to 1966 and Arthur Leee was nowhere close to doing anything Hendrix was doing ion 1967 or even by 1972. Good music, good player, no Hendrix not even close. Get real.
HEMISURFER 2 years ago
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Arthur prbably dabbled in Satanism since the band Love lived at the Spiral Staircase in Cali., probably hung out with Manson too...there's some feel good vibes for ya.
HEMISURFER 2 years ago
You get real, Hendrix was a great guitar player, but he was no Arthur Lee when it came to song writing or composition. When Hendrix hit the scene Love was already on their second album. My guess is Vindicator (a minor work for Lee) was a deliberate tribute to Hendrix's sound - the two were friends and intended to team up, but it never happened. Arthur Lee never made 2 albums that sounded the same - but he was definitely the original black psychedelic rocker who lead the way for Hendrix.
w0smith 2 years ago
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Lee's tone is questionable, the riffs are basic blues cops, and nothing special. That's why you don't hear his music anymore, that's why guitarists except for very few spend any time listening to his very mundane riffs and spend almost no time studying Lee. Hendrix influenced guitar music forever, Lee is a footnote. That's real...
Lee probably took too much acid and hung out with too many Manson freaks to get his act together. Real = He's a footnote.
HEMISURFER 2 years ago
@w0smith Firstly i agree Arthur Lee is one of the greatest songwriters ever but i always get riled up when someone puts down Hendrix as a writer/composer. Jimi was a master composer - Castles Made of Sand, Axis, Angel, One Rainy Wish, House Burning Down, Straight Ahead, Little Wing etc. etc. etc. are up there with anything Arthur has ever done lyrically & as for constructing songs in a studio setting no one even touches Hendrix. (THEN OR NOW)
AbsintheDream 1 year ago
@AbsintheDream AMEN
blackdude57 1 year ago
Lee recorded as far back as 63 on Capitol. Cant judge lee by this album(even though great), which sounds nothing like the original line-up. Forever Changes, one of Brian Wilson's fave albums so nuff said. if the original line-up were to kept it together LOVE would of been a powerhouse through out the 70's..looped daily along with Zep n Floyd on dreaded classic rock stations today.
Danyelli1976 2 years ago
@Danyelli1976, Hey Confused LIL'one get your facts straight, your trying to ed-
ucate some Cat , that just is trying to Share, Take your insults & no-knowledge a/b Arthur to some Lame that just might Buy it, GO TO SLEEP!
TIAPROMO/L.A., CA., USA
tiapromo 2 years ago
Really what facts did i get wrong, Troll?
Maybe you replied to the wrong name.
Danyelli1976 2 years ago
way better than jimi! jimi got famous but copied arthur lee in clothes and style! arthur was far more talented!
shaneshaky1 2 years ago
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME Other way around dumbass
jahstp 2 years ago
this is from Vindicator
a bonus track?
gonna get the new solo Arthur lee
album this month?
JoeChrisMorris 2 years ago
before there was jimi hendrix there was arthur lee. everybody ripped him off, including the doors and jimi
newcrate1 2 years ago 15
Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison were avowed fans of Love's Arthur Lee.
neduddgi 2 years ago 13
@neduddgi Love TOTALLY %100 paved the way for The Doors, Aurthur Lee prob inspired Hendrix as a black man not having to play the blues or R&B, but Hendrix ultimately was his own flame.
miktruk 1 year ago
@neduddgi How could you NOT BE???!!!!!!!! creashonrebel@yahoo.com
Mangosunsplash 1 year ago
@neduddgi Right they were. I think Love didn't toured much and that was part of the problem .. maybe bigger than what we think. Just a note of interest: Art was around Neil and Buffalo Springfield during production of their fine records and Art asked Neil to produce Love Forever Changes. Neil is the best but I am glad Neil just didn't show up.
11xzxzxz 9 months ago
@newcrate1
Well I don't think arthur lee was a main influence to jimi hendrix. in this song you actually hear that jimi was an influence to arthur, since this song was recorded in 1972
Qhuit8 1 year ago
havent you heard forever changes? 7&7 is the first true punk track! arthur was more aware of anything that jimi had!
shaneshaky1 1 year ago
@shaneshaky1 Finally someone recognizes this!
7&7 was the FIRST punk rock tune!
All of these silly people running around talking about Ramones and Sex Pistols as the founders of punk know nothing. After Arthur, there was a great band called MC5 that followed in his punky, hard style...
musikfanat 1 year ago
@musikfanat It's a fight for the photo finish between Love, The Music Machine("Talk, Talk"), T and the Velvet Underground touring with Warhol's Exploding Plastic Inevitable. What's this? The Who's "My Generation" a length ahead with the date 1965. OK, we'll allow for the fact that it didn't hit our airwaves for long months after that.
fgldnglbs 1 year ago
@fgldnglbs Well, the Who was essentially trying to play RnB, the Velvets were trying to play RnB (the intro from There She Goes Again was from a Marvin Gaye song) and didn't record until 2 years after Love. Music Machine's first recording wasn't until '66. Arthur was already going up and down Sunset Blvd. with one shoe on and granny glasses in '64. He gave Jimi Hendrix his first recording session in '64...
musikfanat 1 year ago
@newcrate1 Arthur got the Doors their record contract...
musikfanat 1 year ago
add the stones to that! their song she`s a rainbow was ripped off from she comes in colours!
shaneshakyid 2 months ago
@newcrate1
say what you feel - he's copying Jimi here NOT the other way around friend..! 1972 was few years beyond Jimi's appearance on the scene
note: it sounds nothing like LOVE
MePJtheDJ 2 months ago
@MePJtheDJ yeah he's right. i was around then, listened to love, the hendrix and altho there was some back and forth byt this point, and particularly in this song, Lee is copying Hendrix more than Hendrix ever was influenced by Lee.
slimturnpike 1 month ago
@slimturnpike
That's probably true, but if nothing else this record speaks to the breadth of Lee's genius and versatility... I mean, who would believe that the guy who did this is the same guy who wrote and sang on "You Set the Scene" (one of the most beautiful songs ever recorded) and, before that, something as trippy as "She Comes in Colors"?
logicalthought 1 month ago
J E S U S !!!
Tonymostrom 2 years ago
there's a different version on my copy of Vindicator, and it's called 'You Want Change For Your Re-run'
harrycapstan 2 years ago
guess this is without Love??
Nikoline95 2 years ago
Yes, this is solo album, the Vindicator, 1972.
neduddgi 2 years ago
WOW!
kingchrisuk2009 2 years ago
Very Jimi like . Damn good !
vintagezigg 2 years ago
bold statement but he did write some amazing songs.
goodbye41 2 years ago
greatest singer/songwriter ever!!! more of a delight than hendrix id say!
shaneshaky1 2 years ago
This sounds like a blatant Hendrix ripoff. Not a put down to Arthur...but he did much better music than this song. R.I.P Mr Lee.
theonlytruepunk 2 years ago