I think that all the cymbal companies (Zildjian, Paiste, Meinl, Sabain), all have distinct voices to them. They all have certain aspects that make them who they are.
@MrGuitarandvocals you know somthing here is a fackt ok now my buddy got a customs for xmas last year and he broke them by just playing not hard beating on them either they just broke so over priced hunks of metal
He just doesn't know how to hit a cymbal correctly. I never broke a cymbal in 18 yrs of playing. I have 6 Zildjian a custom cymbals and never broke any of them. Same thing with the Paiste cymbals I own. Never broke any of them
The Sabian Cymbal company was founded in 1981 in Meductic, New Brunswick, Canada by Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. In a nutshell, Sabian cymbals exist becuase of Zildjian in the first place !!
You know, I find it sad that the top comment is one that kind of insults the great Zildjian company. Zildjian has been making cymbals for about 400 years, and they do an outstanding job.
Every company, be it Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste, or any other cymbal maker, has great sounding cymbals. Which one you choose is an individual choice. That doesn't make any of them better or worse than the others.
Hehe okay i have a question, i've been drumming for over 4 years and im thinking of getting a zildjian cymbal set, do you have any suggestions? I was considering the ZXT or the ZBT's what do you recomend?
@acdcjonnyboy The A series, A customs, or the K or K custom series..it depends on what sound you are looking for and if you have the money for them since they are all pretty pricey. I myself have the A series, with a k custom hybrid china.
@acdcjonnyboy i broke my ZXT's in about a year. Im getting Sabians now because they sound awesome and the 2 year warranty sealed the deal for me. Just go to your local store and play them. see what you like
@acdcjonnyboy DON'T get ZBTs. I love Zildjian and their my choice for cymbals but the ZBTs are just not good. Go online to eBay or craigslist and look for used A, A Custom, K, or K Custom cymbals. I get really good deals on professional cymbals by doing this. Just make sure that the used cymbals don't have cracks or keyholes!
No cymbal will ever be as good as zildjian and that is why ziljdian holds 69% of the cymbal maket. I prefer automated hammering over hand hammering because the sound from cymbal to cymbal is much more consistent with automated hammering. I have played and own many brands of cymbals and no brand is as good as zildjian.
Robert Zildjian formed the word "Sabian" from the two first letters of the names of his three children Sally, Bill and Andy (a nickname for Armand), and initially released two lines of cymbals, HH and AA both of them of the traditional bell bronze alloy. Today, Sabian Cymbals' president is Andy Zildjian, the youngest in the family.
I just got a private tour of the whole factory last week. Awesome experience!! Great people. I met Cragie Zildjian that day. Wonderful person. She stopped and talked to us for 15 minutes or so during the tour..
oh, but meinl is cheaper than zildjian price wise.
you can get the mcs pack for the same price as the zbt pack. but in all honestly, you should get the mcs packs because you get a WAY better cymbal for the price compared to the zbt.
it is good, but honestly, you should really get the mcs box set, it's 100 dollars more. I KNOW it sounds like a lot more money, but trust me, they are MUCH MUCH better. With the HCS, you'll replace them soon, but with the MCS, you'll keep them for a long time.
I believe Istanbul Agops are made by the guys that used to make the Zildjian K line so whoever gave a thumbs down doesnt know what they are talking about.
You are somewhat correct. Agop who died some time ago was the factory manager for Kerope Zildjian, where the K name comes from. That factory was shut down and moved to Canada, which is now Sabian, after Bob and Armand Zildjian split after the death of Avedis. The Istanbul company also split, Mehmet was actually the cymbal smith who studied under Kerope.
i have to say that i'm a paiste man myself..but i gotta say that zildjian are THE most famous name on cymbals, and their history is unsurpassed by any other company !..they're the kings (literally !) of cymbal making !!
Blegh, someone thumbs downed my comment. Anyway, i still personally think the HANDS ON Approch of Sabian is way better than the AUTOMATED way of Zildjian.
Zildjian cymbals have no personality in them anymore, they just sound soo manufactured..
Sorry but most of that is just pure marketing hype. I've got a 20 year old K ride that was hammered by a machine and I've yet to find a cymbal to match it's quality and character, other than another K.
The fact is Sabian hand hammers cymbals because Zildjian has patents on most of it's hammering technologies, so Sabian just does it the way they did when they were part of Zildjian.
I've got nothing bad to say about Sabian, because they make a nice product, but the fact is, it's marketing hype.
Only the HH and HHX series by Sabian are hand hammered. The AA and AAX series use almost the exact same manufacturing process. The main difference with Zildjian is their machining technologies are lightyears ahead of anyone else.
@Yayo015 no obviously ur a guy who bought a pair of sabian cymbals, kinda like a fanboy, but ask anyone what the best cymbaals r and they wud say zildjian A customs
@Yayo015 ...... The Sabian Cymbal company was founded in 1981 in Meductic, New Brunswick, Canada by Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. In a nutshell, Sabian cymbals exist becuase of Zildjian in the first place !!
Goddd!!!!...Its like they are the best cymbals in the world.. oh ooh..sorry my bad....its like no...is they are the best cymbals in the world... 367 years of history... all the cymbals have place in the zildjian factory.. even their names came from avedis zildjian 3...avedis zildjian invents the hi-hats...sooo baisicly all the cymbals came form zildjian...who cares about Sabian??... zildjian since 1,600 and zildjia is here to stay 4 evaa!!!...
This video and the rest of the series are so stupid. I wanted to see how they make it in a specified way. Instead i get a history lesson and indirect shots toward Sabian.
Are these people even full Armenian? They sure don't look Armenian. I don't think they even speak Armenian. They can't even say Avedis the right way. There kids should try to learn Armenian and teach their children.
Getting some new zildjians for Christmas
ikill4joy 1 month ago
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drummer6374 1 month ago
I may sound like a poser here, But I LOVE the Travis Barker set. Just sayin'
Thejesusofsuburbia21 2 months ago
does Zildjian have any factories in Europe? I will be travelling there from February to June and I'd love to see the factory.
healthie 2 months ago
holy c*ap.. :D
go6io 4 months ago
1:02 I LEANED A NEW WORD!!!!
ThePhlipify 5 months ago 7
ZIldjian definitely makes the best rides, but everything else is just ok. Definitely not the worst out there.
Hammy0924 5 months ago
I think Zildjian got the ride cymbal right with the A Custom rides but Sabian definitely does a better job with crashes than Zildjian does.
DeadpoolisCanadian 5 months ago
Zildjian is the oldest company in USA.
anticwar 6 months ago
i wonder if she can get free cymbals?
logansdrums 6 months ago
Zildjian is the icon of cymbals.
dimasal1 7 months ago
que pena que ya no sigan la tradicion manual de antes yo tengo un avedis de 1945 y aun me dura y lo uso
toyopie 7 months ago
I think that all the cymbal companies (Zildjian, Paiste, Meinl, Sabain), all have distinct voices to them. They all have certain aspects that make them who they are.
gtrocksyosocks 8 months ago
zildijian orver rated over priced hunks of metal
xxsexyemodudexx 9 months ago 3
@xxsexyemodudexx
shut your mouth you illiterate fuck
MrGuitarandvocals 5 months ago
@MrGuitarandvocals i like my paiste rude cymbals bitch
xxsexyemodudexx 4 months ago
@xxsexyemodudex
I play rudes - sigs and 2002 myself bitch
MrGuitarandvocals 4 months ago
@MrGuitarandvocals you know somthing here is a fackt ok now my buddy got a customs for xmas last year and he broke them by just playing not hard beating on them either they just broke so over priced hunks of metal
xxsexyemodudexx 4 months ago
@xxsexyemodudexx
He just doesn't know how to hit a cymbal correctly. I never broke a cymbal in 18 yrs of playing. I have 6 Zildjian a custom cymbals and never broke any of them. Same thing with the Paiste cymbals I own. Never broke any of them
MrGuitarandvocals 4 months ago
@MrGuitarandvocals dang u never cracked a customss
16acog 4 months ago
@16acog
Never - I have a thicker A custom projection crash - but I have two a custom splashes and an 18 a custom
crash which I have beat the fuck out of. The cymbals are almost 10 years old. No nicks-dings or cracks
I just recently switched to Paiste - I still own the Zildjians
MrGuitarandvocals 4 months ago
@16acog
Also have a 17 inch projection crash
MrGuitarandvocals 4 months ago
The Sabian Cymbal company was founded in 1981 in Meductic, New Brunswick, Canada by Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. In a nutshell, Sabian cymbals exist becuase of Zildjian in the first place !!
MrBailey55 9 months ago
x]
StephenFiorentini 9 months ago
you think the ceo or the vicepresident can play drums?
santiago0497 9 months ago
id love to have the second name zildjian :L
Punchinrocksintheeye 10 months ago
@Punchinrocksintheeye my son's name is zildjian. :))
polel 9 months ago
@polel ah thats class i like your shttyle :P
Punchinrocksintheeye 9 months ago
You know, I find it sad that the top comment is one that kind of insults the great Zildjian company. Zildjian has been making cymbals for about 400 years, and they do an outstanding job.
Every company, be it Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste, or any other cymbal maker, has great sounding cymbals. Which one you choose is an individual choice. That doesn't make any of them better or worse than the others.
Its all about the sound in the end.
drummergod522 10 months ago
@drummergod522
You sir are a genious!
MrGuitarandvocals 5 months ago
Is that a weiner dog at 2:28?
Beatpoet19 10 months ago
3:42 That's @travisbarker's drum kit!
PlanetDrumLtd 10 months ago
Sabians win lol
rmarc11 11 months ago
Samoans win
rmarc11 11 months ago
I use Zildjian symbols in my school's band. They sound pretty good for school instruments, which are usually just standard equipment.
MechWarrior324 1 year ago
i wish my last name was zildjian...
mikeyalvarado 1 year ago
what an unique products. respects from Turkey, Armenians will be always our friends. god bless glory Zildjian family.
hakopera 1 year ago
Hehe okay i have a question, i've been drumming for over 4 years and im thinking of getting a zildjian cymbal set, do you have any suggestions? I was considering the ZXT or the ZBT's what do you recomend?
acdcjonnyboy 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy The A series, A customs, or the K or K custom series..it depends on what sound you are looking for and if you have the money for them since they are all pretty pricey. I myself have the A series, with a k custom hybrid china.
JeanLucLovesDrums 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy i broke my ZXT's in about a year. Im getting Sabians now because they sound awesome and the 2 year warranty sealed the deal for me. Just go to your local store and play them. see what you like
Pouteen 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy how can you consider the zbt or zxt's? if youre on a budget, get some xs20's from sabian.
xXguitardude9Xx 1 year ago
@xXguitardude9Xx i dont buy from sabian anymore cuz i bought 3 cymbals from them, and they all broke within 2-3 months and i had barely used it
jesse17ful 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy DON'T get ZBTs. I love Zildjian and their my choice for cymbals but the ZBTs are just not good. Go online to eBay or craigslist and look for used A, A Custom, K, or K Custom cymbals. I get really good deals on professional cymbals by doing this. Just make sure that the used cymbals don't have cracks or keyholes!
IDontUsePicks 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy dude, I recommend you the ZHT's cymbals, they sound great!!! and are cheap
dimasal1 7 months ago
Wicked video! Do you think if i sailed all the way from the uk to that factory they'd let me make my own cymbal? ;D or at least pick up some cheap?
acdcjonnyboy 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy ...we wouldn't recommend that.
ZildjianCompany 1 year ago 34
@ZildjianCompany well what do you recommend?
jesse17ful 1 year ago
@acdcjonnyboy
the money it would take u to sail would be more than enough to buy then from ur local music store
drummer6374 1 month ago
@drummer6374 yeah... but a holiday would be more fun! - plus it was a joke
acdcjonnyboy 1 month ago
@acdcjonnyboy
i know i was joking to
drummer6374 1 month ago
i would love to have that last name!
pathemus 1 year ago
My brother's uncle used to be the VP of Zildjian a few years ago
justnotme3002 1 year ago
Zildjian is a weird lastname :|
AndyPFTW 1 year ago
you will never b forgotten buddy rich.....Zildjian your the best...!!!!
Playero909 1 year ago
what can i do or use to clean my cymbals without harming them?
georgemg55 1 year ago
@georgemg55 groove juice
it works like a charm
jesse17ful 1 year ago
@georgemg55
cum
MrGuitarandvocals 5 months ago
Guys, maybe sabian is better but if there were no Zildjian there would be no Sabian
Djboborei 1 year ago
they were born with a cymbal meaning sir name
Djboborei 1 year ago
a damn good sounding cymbal with a great background...thnx for posting this
rickface13 1 year ago
No cymbal will ever be as good as zildjian and that is why ziljdian holds 69% of the cymbal maket. I prefer automated hammering over hand hammering because the sound from cymbal to cymbal is much more consistent with automated hammering. I have played and own many brands of cymbals and no brand is as good as zildjian.
blooddrummer 1 year ago
Sabian is better.
TheDaltonator1234 1 year ago
Robert Zildjian formed the word "Sabian" from the two first letters of the names of his three children Sally, Bill and Andy (a nickname for Armand), and initially released two lines of cymbals, HH and AA both of them of the traditional bell bronze alloy. Today, Sabian Cymbals' president is Andy Zildjian, the youngest in the family.
mushhhi 1 year ago
lol Sabian is still Zildjian
darrel1551 1 year ago
Everyone join zildjian fan base on palringo right now!
camarofan101 1 year ago
Constantinople? Oh please.. is that really hard to say Istanbul?
ubmsw 1 year ago
GO ZILDJIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drummer4life54 1 year ago
zildjian's were so much better before...
Ryder904 1 year ago
We know how to pronounce Avedis now, cool...
zerekx 1 year ago
I just got a private tour of the whole factory last week. Awesome experience!! Great people. I met Cragie Zildjian that day. Wonderful person. She stopped and talked to us for 15 minutes or so during the tour..
avhrules 1 year ago
the Z3's are the best Rock cymbal line in the world.
stoogman 1 year ago
I have the ZBT Series there okay but not really the rock sound I want
GeekUltra 2 years ago
I wish my last name was Zildjian.
flashvideomasta 2 years ago 2
@flashvideomasta oh yess
LastMinLife 1 year ago
The Zildjians are Armenians
adsunreal 2 years ago
The Zildjians are Armenians
adsunreal 2 years ago
when did the Turkish k and American a zildjian become one company??
dartthewarrior 2 years ago
im a MEINL cymbal fella. But I always wanted Zildjian cymbals. But parents dun let. T.T
metalrockdrummer 2 years ago
why not?
peopleperson111 2 years ago
because its too expensive. i want a zildjian zbt cymbal already costs already $60+
metalrockdrummer 2 years ago
oh, but meinl is cheaper than zildjian price wise.
you can get the mcs pack for the same price as the zbt pack. but in all honestly, you should get the mcs packs because you get a WAY better cymbal for the price compared to the zbt.
peopleperson111 2 years ago
im using HCS Box Set. Quite good
metalrockdrummer 2 years ago
it is good, but honestly, you should really get the mcs box set, it's 100 dollars more. I KNOW it sounds like a lot more money, but trust me, they are MUCH MUCH better. With the HCS, you'll replace them soon, but with the MCS, you'll keep them for a long time.
peopleperson111 2 years ago
istanbul cymbals best
1afet1 2 years ago
I believe Istanbul Agops are made by the guys that used to make the Zildjian K line so whoever gave a thumbs down doesnt know what they are talking about.
buttersworth13 2 years ago
You are somewhat correct. Agop who died some time ago was the factory manager for Kerope Zildjian, where the K name comes from. That factory was shut down and moved to Canada, which is now Sabian, after Bob and Armand Zildjian split after the death of Avedis. The Istanbul company also split, Mehmet was actually the cymbal smith who studied under Kerope.
bmbell71 2 years ago
thats awesome!!! there names are armand and avedis!!!
drummer36325 2 years ago
i have to say that i'm a paiste man myself..but i gotta say that zildjian are THE most famous name on cymbals, and their history is unsurpassed by any other company !..they're the kings (literally !) of cymbal making !!
blica1 2 years ago
nice lambo
TheOverheard 2 years ago
Blegh, someone thumbs downed my comment. Anyway, i still personally think the HANDS ON Approch of Sabian is way better than the AUTOMATED way of Zildjian.
Zildjian cymbals have no personality in them anymore, they just sound soo manufactured..
Yayo015 2 years ago 32
i like the hands on approach of sabian too. but i still think Zildjian is better. but thats just me.
Cheers :)
motoguy05 2 years ago 3
Sorry but most of that is just pure marketing hype. I've got a 20 year old K ride that was hammered by a machine and I've yet to find a cymbal to match it's quality and character, other than another K.
The fact is Sabian hand hammers cymbals because Zildjian has patents on most of it's hammering technologies, so Sabian just does it the way they did when they were part of Zildjian.
I've got nothing bad to say about Sabian, because they make a nice product, but the fact is, it's marketing hype.
bmbell71 2 years ago
So, both Ziljdian and Sabian, hammer they cymbal with machines?
biglalu 2 years ago
sabian still does there by hand zildjian has moved on to mixing matchine with hand lathing by a human
drinktehbooz 2 years ago
Only the HH and HHX series by Sabian are hand hammered. The AA and AAX series use almost the exact same manufacturing process. The main difference with Zildjian is their machining technologies are lightyears ahead of anyone else.
bmbell71 2 years ago
I understand, thanks for those informations! I prefer hand hammering to some machining technologies..
biglalu 2 years ago
@Yayo015 thats so true they're just blah
ryanandbranslurppiss 1 year ago
@Yayo015 say whaaat
Megarokk 1 year ago
@Yayo015 yea but zildjian started it all they use machines because their company had to meet customer demands.
chrisx8x23x95 1 year ago
@Yayo015 Agreed. Sabian is FAR superior. But credit where credit is due, without Zildjian there would be no Sabian!
thsterrain 1 year ago
@thsterrain Yep, because the owner of Sabian is a Zildjian xD
Yayo015 1 year ago
@Yayo015 So true.
ZumeProductions 1 year ago
@Yayo015 No Sabian cymbal could stand up to one of Zildjian's Constantinoples cymbals.
samboadie 1 year ago
@Yayo015 no obviously ur a guy who bought a pair of sabian cymbals, kinda like a fanboy, but ask anyone what the best cymbaals r and they wud say zildjian A customs
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@Yayo015 ...... The Sabian Cymbal company was founded in 1981 in Meductic, New Brunswick, Canada by Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. In a nutshell, Sabian cymbals exist becuase of Zildjian in the first place !!
MrBailey55 9 months ago
OOOOh yes look at all these shimmering a-customs!!!
llllllllllluuuuuuuv it
ArneBergsch 2 years ago 5
same here. They look sooo sweet. And the sound is nearly better! :D
3rdfriend 2 years ago
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My dad works with Dennis Chambers and you're right. He's amazing. Zildjian's the best@
cjguth3 2 years ago
oh..
ISHIACE 2 years ago
Zzzzzzz
MaracaTastic 2 years ago 2
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Blah, Sabian video is better..
Yayo015 2 years ago
lol its like sabian is the retarded step child they keep in the closet
dmcoheed18 2 years ago 2
lol
GNproductions13 2 years ago
holy shit she's related to armand!
kohead 2 years ago
Goddd!!!!...Its like they are the best cymbals in the world.. oh ooh..sorry my bad....its like no...is they are the best cymbals in the world... 367 years of history... all the cymbals have place in the zildjian factory.. even their names came from avedis zildjian 3...avedis zildjian invents the hi-hats...sooo baisicly all the cymbals came form zildjian...who cares about Sabian??... zildjian since 1,600 and zildjia is here to stay 4 evaa!!!...
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JOEY KRAMER HAS A LAMBORGHINI!!!!!!!! holy crap, how much money does he make with aerosmith!!?
Lolman240 2 years ago
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Lolman240 2 years ago
Wow. Talk about bragging. I agree with 13thFlash, they were basically rubbing in Sabian's face how many great, popular drummers use Zildjian.
CAFanTom 2 years ago
This video and the rest of the series are so stupid. I wanted to see how they make it in a specified way. Instead i get a history lesson and indirect shots toward Sabian.
13thFlash 2 years ago
Are these people even full Armenian? They sure don't look Armenian. I don't think they even speak Armenian. They can't even say Avedis the right way. There kids should try to learn Armenian and teach their children.
USCTrojans89 2 years ago
All my Zildjians will go with me to the grave. Thanks for existing.
DrummerGS 3 years ago
this is amazing. thanks for this enlightenment. your cymbals will stay with me till the day I die.
KilikaDrums 3 years ago
I LOVE ZILDJIAN !!!!!!!!
FOR EVER !!!
Raagnarokk 3 years ago
Great. I just bought the 14 Mastersound ZHT Hats and I love them to death!!! haha. Great Video
BNSFDisneyZildjian 3 years ago 2