@Djshew Keep the toe down... you mean like what Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Tim Lincecum, and about 50 percent of the MLB pitchers don't do? What exactly do you think keeping the toe down does?
@ThePapayaKing Wow. Relax. just giving some tips.As I mentioned in the previous post: There is a lot of upper body and not much legs. Like, abenge11 mentioned: longer stride. That is exactly right. Keeping the toe down is more of a correction tool or practice if the toe is rotated too much to home causing a stiff landing leg. Keeping the toe down is just to help with that until it is mastered. No, not all pros do this because look at Linecum's & Johnson's stride, it's is huge.
@Djshew I'm totally relaxed. First, it's not helpful when people post instructions without saying what the reasoning is. Second, the "toe down" thing is an old wive's tale that has no proven benefit. The pitcher's motion is complicated enough. When you tell a pitcher to fix things that have no effect – like the angle of the toe – you're just confusing them and giving them too many things to think about. The toe angle on both lift and landing is a non-teach. It makes no difference at all.
@Djshew (cont.) About 50 percent of MLB pitchers will lift with their toe down, the other half with their foot parallel to the ground. 50 percent land pointing at the plate, 25 percent toes closed, 25 percent toes open. These are are natural parts of the motion (like arm slot) and shouldn't be messed with. Not only do they not matter, but messing with them distracts the pitcher from focusing on the things that do matter.
@ThePapayaKing I will agree I did not explain why "keep toe down" in the original post. I apologize for that, but we will have to agree to disagree on that reasoning. It's undeniable he is stopping his momentum and throwing using primarily his upper body. Pitching is legs.....that is a fact. I was simply trying to explain keeping the toe down is a drill that can be done and practiced to assist in developing a longer stride. Linecum and Johnson are fortunate to have a natural long slide.
@ThePapayaKing (cont) Stephen Strasburg is a great example. He came into the collegiate level throwing 87mph. By developing his mechanics he was able to gain nearly 11mph.(i'm not saying keeping his toe down caused his velocity change) But Things can be changed.....that is the whole point of developing mechanics. I was just pointing out.....longer stride (like the other comment-er stated as well)
@Djshew One more thing... I'm not trying to pick on you or be argumentative, but Randy Johnson's stride was not huge. I actually agree that pitchers should strive to have the longest stride possible (which is a big part of what helps small pitchers like Lincecum and Robertson be so effective), but Johnson's stride was not big. Well, it was "big" just because he was 6'10", but it wasn't long in terms of a percentage of his body. It was actually below average.
Longer stride.
abenge11 2 years ago
keep that toe down. Get those hands separated a little quicker. Looks like a lot of upper body and not much legs. Not bad though overall.
Djshew 2 years ago
@Djshew Keep the toe down... you mean like what Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Tim Lincecum, and about 50 percent of the MLB pitchers don't do? What exactly do you think keeping the toe down does?
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@ThePapayaKing Wow. Relax. just giving some tips.As I mentioned in the previous post: There is a lot of upper body and not much legs. Like, abenge11 mentioned: longer stride. That is exactly right. Keeping the toe down is more of a correction tool or practice if the toe is rotated too much to home causing a stiff landing leg. Keeping the toe down is just to help with that until it is mastered. No, not all pros do this because look at Linecum's & Johnson's stride, it's is huge.
Djshew 1 month ago
@Djshew I'm totally relaxed. First, it's not helpful when people post instructions without saying what the reasoning is. Second, the "toe down" thing is an old wive's tale that has no proven benefit. The pitcher's motion is complicated enough. When you tell a pitcher to fix things that have no effect – like the angle of the toe – you're just confusing them and giving them too many things to think about. The toe angle on both lift and landing is a non-teach. It makes no difference at all.
ThePapayaKing 1 month ago
@Djshew (cont.) About 50 percent of MLB pitchers will lift with their toe down, the other half with their foot parallel to the ground. 50 percent land pointing at the plate, 25 percent toes closed, 25 percent toes open. These are are natural parts of the motion (like arm slot) and shouldn't be messed with. Not only do they not matter, but messing with them distracts the pitcher from focusing on the things that do matter.
ThePapayaKing 1 month ago
@ThePapayaKing I will agree I did not explain why "keep toe down" in the original post. I apologize for that, but we will have to agree to disagree on that reasoning. It's undeniable he is stopping his momentum and throwing using primarily his upper body. Pitching is legs.....that is a fact. I was simply trying to explain keeping the toe down is a drill that can be done and practiced to assist in developing a longer stride. Linecum and Johnson are fortunate to have a natural long slide.
Djshew 1 month ago
@ThePapayaKing (cont) Stephen Strasburg is a great example. He came into the collegiate level throwing 87mph. By developing his mechanics he was able to gain nearly 11mph.(i'm not saying keeping his toe down caused his velocity change) But Things can be changed.....that is the whole point of developing mechanics. I was just pointing out.....longer stride (like the other comment-er stated as well)
Djshew 1 month ago
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@Djshew One more thing... I'm not trying to pick on you or be argumentative, but Randy Johnson's stride was not huge. I actually agree that pitchers should strive to have the longest stride possible (which is a big part of what helps small pitchers like Lincecum and Robertson be so effective), but Johnson's stride was not big. Well, it was "big" just because he was 6'10", but it wasn't long in terms of a percentage of his body. It was actually below average.
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