he insulted people constantly, he was a hateful man, and by saying you did not help the situation you are playing partial blame on us and putting less blame on him. its disgusting you're defending him, he was a racist EVIL man
It's the mob-mindset. Didn't you know? It's cool to be a dick nowadays. People are not cordial to each other anymore. Society as a whole has become a bash-fest. I hope you touched someone enough to make them realize that their harmful words can have detrimental consequences.
@KarlNoten thats not true. The guy claimed to be a christian while making videos denigrating woman in a sexual manner and he readily attacked me and other Christians. Get your facts straight.
@jezuzfreek777 He might have attacked you and other women but he was still a Christian. That was his thing. Want it or not he was one of the boys. One of you guys.
@jezuzfreek777 Oh what bullshit... so basically anyone that claims to be Christian than does something you do not like "wasn't really a Christian?". How convient. Of course, that is not how it works and it is very clear that the murderer was a Christian.
You are lying in the video, right from the get go. Plain and simple.
also if you consider hateful comments like telling him to wise up and open his eyes to the scientific impossibility of the claims of the bible as I did,then you are wrong.To challenge someone to prove with physical,testable evidence,wether the are religious or non religious is the way to go.You cant just make claims as christians do about the bible and not back them up with solid proof
he was a fundamentalist christian,in his videos he believed in creation,people raised from the dead etc.This is what religion does,it leads to mental illness,in his case it went to the extrene.I saw this coming,When I watched some of his videos I said to myself this man is sociopathic and will hurt someone 1 day,and he did
I agree with you that christianity, no matter how fundamental, leads to this. Like gupsphoo said it leads to hate and prejudice and those might enable you to do something like murdering people.
you realize that tony was a crazy christian right? u shouldnt tell someone what THEY believe, i mean he shouldnt have done what he did, but for ur gods sake!
It was Tony's choice to broadcast his idiocy online, if he didn't want negative comments posted on his channel he should have just left.
Tony didn't deserve respect, respect is earned and nothing Tony EVER said earned any respect from me, every word out of that hateful bigots mouth eroded any respect I may have had for him even as a human being, i'm glad he's dead it's just a shame he took another decent human being with him.
speaking of this tony48219 fella story and its very interesting and i apreciate the story and the explanation etc.theres great spiritual value here my brother!!
What people hate about jesus freaks, its their ability with a straight face to deny someones was a "true" Christian as soon as that person fucks up, or does something questionable. Every fucking time someone fucks up, they come out and say "well, we don;t know if he was a "true" christian" Oh really, the guy just dedicated all his online time making videos or talking non stop about christianity, or he admitted to it in his diary and the Vatican was the first entity to recognize him. hypocrisy?
"It is not indicative of a fundamentalist Christian to go kill people. That is not what God commands us to do." What about those who bomb abortion clinics in the name of God? Or the Old Testament and all the examples of genocide, rape and murder in the name of God and under his direct command? Why didn't they just edit those parts out of the bible if that was all mistaken?
@The1Skinsfan We'll see when that happens. But look at the U.S. prison population and you'll notice that very few atheists exist there -- Less than 1 percent. 0.2 I think last time I checked where as we're over 10% of the US population. That's because we aren't willing to make stupid decisions like wasting the only life we have by committing absurd crimes in jail.
@The1Skinsfan We'll see when that happens. But look at the U.S. prison population and you'll notice that very few atheists exist there -- Less than 1 percent. 0.2 I think last time I checked where as we're over 10% of the US population. That's because we aren't willing to make stupid decisions like wasting the only life we have by committing absurd crimes in jail.
What exactly did you say to him? Because sometimes when Christians try to help they end up coming off as arrogant. Usually something like, "Jesus loves you." or "Bless you." I'm an atheist if I was to say something like, "Science be with you." or "May logic guide you." You'd see me as arrogant. Just saying that sometimes its better to leave things alone.
Also, when was the last time an atheist nutjob killed someone? I'd like to read about that story.
yes, its clear the murder has no responcablity for what he's done. Maybe if his victim had just not expressed her own religious beliefs he wouldnt have killed her. Oh no wait, it was those damn guns again killing people. Typical of chrisitans to never take responcablity for anything, and always pan it off on someone or something else, God's will, Satan, Muslims, Atheists...they can never blame themselves...they are 'prefect' through Christ, what a joke
@DaytonaRoadster You do realize that he's explaining that what he did was wrong, but it's not JUST because he was a "christian" is why he snapped. He's saying that all belief systems have "extremists" that would easily do harm to someone. I believe that no matter your belief system your still at fault. (i dont even know where im going with this, its 3:32am and im wacked out of my mind :/)
I'm just now hearing about this sad story. Apparently Jesus and God weren't enough to help this guy. If he weren't so against science he might have received the help he needed via medication. This makes me sick to my stomach.
@phxflyguy I'm also wondering where you think Tony is now. Do you believe that he's in Heaven because he was saved or Hell or because he's a murderer and comitted suicide.
I like how you say fuck all about the poor girl that he shot.
I think that commenters had no effect on that guy whatsoever. Being nice would probably have encouraged him. Yes he needed help- but really, who would want to be friends with someone who acted like that?
How can you hope for the salvation of someone who shot an innocent girl? Or did she deserve it for being an atheist?
You should not camera and drive, you say you watch the road, but I see your eyes aim at the camera all the time.
That said, when I first saw Tony, I thought he was a tard, but I never trolled him, because by the time I really learned about him, he was dead already.
Although to be honest I only feel sorry for the girl. Tony was aggressive, stupid, sexually harassed that girl he killed, and seemed to have nothing going for him. If he had only shot himself, I wouldn't miss him.
Actually to be fair, I don't even think you have a bad point here. But 'kindness for hostile fucktards' is not MY business. I think that's reserved for nice people who are patient with others.
I could attempt to be those things, but it's just not me. And then I'd end up so frustrated I'd start to shoot people. So best for me if I am not nice to people I find annoying.
I knew after watching 1 of his vids that he was unstabe.Mix that with religion and nothing good can come from it.We are all responsible for our actions,christian and athiest alike.I remember talking to a friend at work about this guy and saying that he would become violent if you disagreed with him.
And this is exactly why I like the idea of atheism--go ahead and do whatever the hell one want (kill, murder, lynch, etc), that persons excuse will probably be something like... "It was god's will."
and jesus freak you can stick your prayers up your arse cause it never helped tony48219. your man jesus came to bring peace but the shit still goes on. religion has no place in the modern world
atheists are people who need proofs/evidences before they believe anything. if you faithheads believe in fairytales then why can't we take the piss? if i told you faithheads that the earth is flat and rides on a turtle you would laugh and ask to be shown the turtle. i respect people but not any religious belief!!!!
This only proofs that this guy has no intelligence what so ever. "Its the same as saying ' thats what happens when your an atheist' ", thats EXACTLY what you people are saying, all the time! People like you basically tell atheists all the time that they'r going to hell and burn for their sins, but now your acting like you never said such a thing? Get the fuck off the internet please.
No let me explain your system of constant failure forgiven by dead jews encourages this sort of monster that he is doing the ultimate good and according to your beliefs he is in heaven.
Tony48219 lived his life through youtube. The people who left those comments were a contributing factor in pushing him over the edge. He had a mental problem but people took advantage of that, manipulating him for their own ego. I am not religious in any sense but people got off on goading him online. The words you say make a great impression on people. THose people had a chance to improve someone elses life and to change the destiny of another but instead they were just as ignorant.
After he abuses atheists in the highest degree, and says we "aren't even human" we are expected to talk to him with respect?? What a stupid video jezuzfreek. 'You did not help him'. Blow me.
people have the right to say what ever they want, fuck you for trying to get people to censor them self's, if you go and kill someone and your self, because of what some one said about you you deserve to die. its time like this i wish there was a god because that scumbag would be burning in hell. so will that neck cranking hoe
i agree, Anthony. Im an atheist, but youre right. When i watched his video i thought "who is this mindless moron?!" but youre right, people probably couldve just left him alone.
Religious people (Catholics, in particular) are also more likely to suffer from "demonic possession." In fact, Catholics are the only people who ever get possessed. Go figure.
Besides the issues, i think if he wud have been that troubled, that he shudve been gone to a psychiatry, and/ or talk to a friend, maybe he dint have friends, maybe he did but he dint talk bout it. i think he expressed his anger thru hatin on other religions. ive met friends like that and its not nice. also , i think everybody shud just stick to what they believe and not go on religions; as it was the base to many many wars since mankind can remember. so stick to your belief and dont be misled!
sad thing is he took a moderately hawt chick with him... he trolled youtube then an heroed himself and took some pussy with him... ...he seems like a cock block to me ;O
Also I doubt many xtians would not be pointing the finger if Tony was an atheist. They would have said that he had no morals because of the lack of god in his life. They would say that this happens when man is made the master. I've seen it many times before.
Nevertheless while Xtianity fed a few of his delusions it should not be blamed for what happened. By far the main factors were his mental issues.
This guy had mental issues. The only thing I have to say about his relationship with Christianity is that Christianity can be easily used as a tool of hatred, closed-mindedness, and bigotry, all of which Tony seemed to display. While some of his actions defy the rules of the Bible, some of the views he had are indicative of just how easily skewed Christianity and religion in general can become in someone's mind.
I think Tony said "you suck" and "you die" more than any party involved.
While it is obvious now that Tony had many issues aside from Xtianity, Xtianity no doubt contributed to his negative views on women. The bible has many clear passages where women are put below men (1 Cor 11 comes to mind). Xtianity was the main religion in the west for more than 1000 years yet women were never made equal to men. Not until Xtianity was subjugated to secular institutions did this happen. In fact the last bastions of inequality between men and women today are some churches.
Most of the people who ridiculed, mocked, attacked Tony are probably psychopaths themselves for they took delight in the obvious misery and illness of another person. Now these same people are celebrating or mocking his death; they just have no class, no restraint on their psychopathic enjoyment of the misery of others, These are probably the same ones who'd stand by with their cell phones recording a gang rape or murder so they can post it on youtube rather than calling the police.
I'm not buying he became a murderer because someone posted nasty comments on his page. I understand trying to make sense out of what happened, but he brought that anger and rage to youtube with him.
He didn't kill some random youtuber who had been particularly hateful to him, he killed a woman he was obsessed with, a woman who never displayed the juvenile name calling you think is partly to blame for his behaviour. The internet may be a safe haven for angry people like him, but I don't think there is any evidence that the internet actually creates that anger.
i didn't say the internet created that, but it only made it worse. he found people that were atheist.. and since he already hated them he got even more angry...
i also did not say that name calling made it worse? where did you get that statement?
Trying to be friends with him? Seriously? Not villainize him? How? You can't help someone who doesn't even know that he needs help. You can't help someone who villainizes everyone but a small group of people. If there would have been an atheist, saying: "Dude, you need help. Here's the phone number of a good psychiatrist." you think, he would have accepted that?
He villainized everyone who didn't share his beliefs and those who did wouldn't think that he needed help.
Listen, I don't believe in creationism but this dude has a point. While I don't think it's the responsibility of random others to try and help this man, there is absolutely no need to be so obnoxious and hateful just because you are an anonomous face on the internet. People constantly flaming back and fourth, calling this guy a fag, or that guy a bitch, and hoping people get killed or telling others they should kill them self is completely uncalled for.
I sure wouldn't have wanted to be friends with him. I couldn't have cared less if he killed him self, one less jerk in the world. It's a tragedy that he took the life of an innocent person in the process.
Quit feeling sorry for that asshole! Just because he had a so-called "problem". If you're fucking crazy and all you like to do is kill people, then you need to be whiped out! Point blank. He was a faggot!
I'm an atheist, and i can say that its not the fault of the christian religion, and there are completely reasonable religious people(who don't go door to door and annoy the crap out of people) but religion offers a channel, to give the opportunity to hate, religion may not lead to killing, but it can add to madness. 2:08 atheists would not in an uproar, because its very close to what ben stein said. And for the record Tony481 deserves absolutely no respect.
Don't agree with you much Jezusfreek777 but on this particular situation I guess you're correct. Its person's mind who causes it not the religion to me.
He was a man that was delusional....and he lived in an enviroment that encouraged his delusion. Fundamentalist (insert anything) DOES lead to this. No not on the individual level....but it will encourage the unstable that join that group. Fundamentalism prevents people like this from distinguishing reality and fantasy. You dont hand a delusional person a book full of stories of magic and miracles. It only strengthens their delusion. You hand them logic and reason so they may see it.
If perhaps Tony were a better person, then maybe he wouldn't have gotten hateful comments. If a person is running around yelling "fuck you! you're wrong, I'm right! FUCK YOU!!!!," then i guarantee you'd leave him hateful responses. He was a fool and a lowlife, he knew it, and did himself in.
This is an atheist saying that this is the best video on this subject. Probably the first 5 stars I have given to a Xtian vid. It is so easy to lose sight of how you could affect a person's life with a few kind words. There is a difference between an asshole and a lunatic
My only criticism is, Fundies point the finger at advocates of Evolution when it comes to tragedy as well. As TF pointed out, Kent Hovind blamed Columbine on the teaching of Evolution.
He basically said that some mystery person lead this murdering dumbfuck to this. But the manipulating asshole secretly told him that he wasn't a real Christian.
What kind of demented mind thinks of this stuff? And thinks others will believe it.
and you are defending him because he blames the "haters" that responded to the murdering assholes fuck you videos.
I think this is the only vid on youtube thats actually ever made me get mad.
No dude, he wasn't blaming anyone else for that tragedy. He was calling people out for being down right HATEFUL to this lunatic. The message I got from this vid was: How different could things have been, if the outraged people watching his videos had tried to help Tony instead of aggravating him with vile and hateful messages? As for the mystery xtians, dunno if that's true.
I agree with this guy and i am Atheist. Lets just put our religion aside and try to live in harmony. We shouldnt try to toss it in peoples faces and try to convert others.
I respect your views. I think that there are good believers and good non believers. Also bad Christians and Bad Atheists.
Morals can be based in scripture, but I feel they ultimately come from the heart also. I don't really believe if I stole all the Bibles that Christians would be amoral. Empathy is always going to affect our actions and decisions.
So maybe good people are not so different, even if they are on opposite sides of the fence.
Yeah, I'm agnostic, I've never read the bible. It's all about empathy. I don't do anything considered immoral, unless it's not hurting anyone or myself. I don't like telling happy Christians my beliefs and try to get them to change theirs.
Jezusfreek actually seems like a good person. And anyways, if people weren't expressing their beliefs on youtube and causing arguments, it would be very boring. Unless you constantly watch keyboard cat videos.
I agree... Its kinda sad why people leave harsh comments, like the girl who killed herself because people were making fun of her on my space... People need love...
soundenergyfusion "move on with your life without leaving pointless, not to mention untrue comments" You mean as pointless as commanding someone to not do that which has already been done? Yes, I'll alter the space time continuum just cuz you sez so. Not to mention commands the recipient has no intention of heeding. You can focus your attention while driving? You can't even focus your attention sitting at a keyboard. Oh look here I've gone and left another comment.
And of course, anyone who dares impugn the holy bible is unholy is naturally reducing the argument to name calling. It is called bloodthirsty, because it's god calls for blood.
No. Christianity is another governmental ruling class for slaves. It is not a religion. And if you knew so much about your religion, perhaps you wouldn't have mentioned David as the proper role model. Or maybe you would have figured out the difference between the 2 laws and the 10 commandments. But you didn't, so reading comprehension obviously wasn't high on your educational to-do list in your studies.
you haven't been washed clean of shit. u r so ignorant of your own religion it is pathetic. where do you think the term judeo-christianity comes from? wtf? you fundies don't even know your own relgiion. of course, those who do study that bs are called atheists or at least of some other religion as it is mostly proven bullshit.
oh yeah, I believe Christ didn't exactly pay much attention to those sabbath rules ether. they are a reminder of the blood which applies to christianity. The blood of the most murderous religion I have ever heard of. No love in those 10, just bullshit propaganda. If you read your iwn book, you would have figured out the irrelevancy of the 10 with the 2. But the bloodthirsty powermongers love the ten because they get their power out of the blood if it's followers.
the ten commandments are not necessary. they are from a different religion. They are judaic. they got pissed because jesus didn't use them, just went by the two. why the hell would you need them if you followed the 2. you think people might get confused on stealing and murder? wtf? get real.
Yes you can. If you follow the 2 you won't break the ten, but you can break the 2 and follow the ten. They are of a different religion entirely. The first part of the two states there is but one god. The jews just claimed theirs as theirs, and the others as weaker.
Oh yeah, like when they murdered the women and children in the land of honey to take Israel. Good first use of an army there. The Old Testament is full of assholes who stole, lied. enslaved, and much worse. Not too much in the way of good people in those heroes. More like a bunch of thugs.
If christianity paid any attention to the laws attributed to jesus, they would not be a dominant force in supporting wars (support the troop school). pro-torture abortion bombings. and the list goes on. If fundies paid attention to those two laws instead of cheering on the 10 commandments, i could at least respect the religion. I respect people who follow the 2 laws but the christian religion is deadly.
Well said , as I agree people can impact each other in a meaningful way. Alot of people say its not my probelm or I dont care. I saved a friend on the edge once with the right words, just unfortunately the right words never found tony. Rest in peace both Tony and Asia.
Respecting other people is something that i don't think is taught much to people anymore or its just that people don't really care about other except themselves. I respect everyone opinions and work such as youtube videos, and other things.I may not like them or i may have a different opinion about it, but i still respect them and don't bash them because of their opinion.Just like Fred on youtube.I can't really stand his videos,But i don't troll him or disrespect him either. Just respect others.
some people need to be talked about and somone is always going to disagree with you. with an open forum where anyone can view you, there is not and should not be restrictions, you just have to take someone comments with the weight of what you view of them. protect freedom of speech
Some Youtubers did see it coming. From my understanding, TONY48219 posted a couple of video last week or so, where he appeared very Suicidal...Out of cercern, some youtubers informed YOUTUBE and Detriot Police. No one was able to save TONY including his family.
Tony was a very disturbed individual. I believe (as his mom has said) that Tony had a lot of good in him, but his illness , whatever it was (bi-polar? Psychosis?) was the MAIN factor in what he did. His religious beliefs and or the subsequent attention he got for his views just exascerbated his problems. No one with any intelligence would consider his death a good thing. It was just tragic. had he got help, took meds...it may have been different. He was just very very disturbed.
OMG. I looked up Brett D Keane in Missouri public records and saw a whole bunch of abuse cases against this author. My friend sent me an email telling me and I didn't believe him til I found it myself at "missouri courts public records casenet search website". They involve what appears to be his wife and his own mother. Google it like I did.
I think anybody who honestly blamed VFX would have to be smoking something illegal.
I think, most people, theist, atheist, agnostic, would only blame one person for the terrible tragedy and that is sadly likely to be the individual involved.
he insulted people constantly, he was a hateful man, and by saying you did not help the situation you are playing partial blame on us and putting less blame on him. its disgusting you're defending him, he was a racist EVIL man
Ututwhynot 2 months ago
It's the mob-mindset. Didn't you know? It's cool to be a dick nowadays. People are not cordial to each other anymore. Society as a whole has become a bash-fest. I hope you touched someone enough to make them realize that their harmful words can have detrimental consequences.
Nightx88 3 months ago
prove that he lied. He stated several times that he WAS a christian.
gulbirk 6 months ago
what a load of shit, this guy was a fundie christian who went nuts. His religion made him crazy, end of story
DaytonaRoadster 8 months ago
He would bash christians? He was a huge christian. Way to start out with a lie right away by denouncing his faith for him.
KarlNoten 8 months ago
@KarlNoten thats not true. The guy claimed to be a christian while making videos denigrating woman in a sexual manner and he readily attacked me and other Christians. Get your facts straight.
jezuzfreek777 8 months ago
@jezuzfreek777 He might have attacked you and other women but he was still a Christian. That was his thing. Want it or not he was one of the boys. One of you guys.
KarlNoten 8 months ago
@jezuzfreek777 Who are you to say what his beliefs were?
darththeo 5 months ago
@jezuzfreek777 Hmm that bares a very sinister resemblance to the OT does it not?
You are in no position to say what his beliefs were.
MegaLolburger 4 months ago
@jezuzfreek777 No true Scotsman logical fallacy. Try again, little man.
Graynumber 2 months ago
@jezuzfreek777 Oh what bullshit... so basically anyone that claims to be Christian than does something you do not like "wasn't really a Christian?". How convient. Of course, that is not how it works and it is very clear that the murderer was a Christian.
You are lying in the video, right from the get go. Plain and simple.
815Sox 2 months ago
btw great videos, man. I'm without a doubt listening
Pouchy17 10 months ago
religion doesn't lead to mental illnesses, you twats. These are overall crazy people we're looking at. Don't judge all on the basis of some.
Pouchy17 10 months ago
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If he wasn't a christian ,he would still be crazy and he might have been reasonable to take his medicine.
Tethloach1 1 year ago
also if you consider hateful comments like telling him to wise up and open his eyes to the scientific impossibility of the claims of the bible as I did,then you are wrong.To challenge someone to prove with physical,testable evidence,wether the are religious or non religious is the way to go.You cant just make claims as christians do about the bible and not back them up with solid proof
ranchai100 1 year ago
he was a fundamentalist christian,in his videos he believed in creation,people raised from the dead etc.This is what religion does,it leads to mental illness,in his case it went to the extrene.I saw this coming,When I watched some of his videos I said to myself this man is sociopathic and will hurt someone 1 day,and he did
ranchai100 1 year ago
What would it change if he was a christian ?
I agree with you that christianity, no matter how fundamental, leads to this. Like gupsphoo said it leads to hate and prejudice and those might enable you to do something like murdering people.
Iritas1985 1 year ago
I agree with you even tho I'm an atheist.
likeroby 1 year ago
Fundamental Christianity doesn't necessarily lead to murder and suicide, but it certainly leads to hatred against non-Christians.
gupsphoo 1 year ago
you realize that tony was a crazy christian right? u shouldnt tell someone what THEY believe, i mean he shouldnt have done what he did, but for ur gods sake!
btw im an atheist, lets argue :)
gphhawkins 1 year ago
was that venomfangx
bestcarbonparts 1 year ago
It was Tony's choice to broadcast his idiocy online, if he didn't want negative comments posted on his channel he should have just left.
Tony didn't deserve respect, respect is earned and nothing Tony EVER said earned any respect from me, every word out of that hateful bigots mouth eroded any respect I may have had for him even as a human being, i'm glad he's dead it's just a shame he took another decent human being with him.
bodybag22 1 year ago
He was a very narrow minded christian, there is no way to convert an idiot like that.
rainerfilm 1 year ago
speaking of this tony48219 fella story and its very interesting and i apreciate the story and the explanation etc.theres great spiritual value here my brother!!
ssleslito 1 year ago
@ssleslito Bullshit. Just goes to show some crazy bastard given enough cause will go kill some poor sap. Same old story.
Lemmingologist 1 year ago
What people hate about jesus freaks, its their ability with a straight face to deny someones was a "true" Christian as soon as that person fucks up, or does something questionable. Every fucking time someone fucks up, they come out and say "well, we don;t know if he was a "true" christian" Oh really, the guy just dedicated all his online time making videos or talking non stop about christianity, or he admitted to it in his diary and the Vatican was the first entity to recognize him. hypocrisy?
drgoodvibesxxx 1 year ago
Is it possible to be a non-fundamentalist Christian, if so thats what I am.
The1Skinsfan 1 year ago
fuck him, im glad he is dead. any motherfucker like that , is just too dangerous to remain alive. look at what he did. good riddance
desconocidos27 1 year ago
@desconocidos27 well, he took someone with him guy. are you glad for that, too?
aantiawp 1 year ago
@aantiawp no but he should have taken you with him though
desconocidos27 1 year ago
@desconocidos27 what a brilliant reply, 5 stars
aantiawp 1 year ago
@aantiawp at least your honest
desconocidos27 1 year ago
"It is not indicative of a fundamentalist Christian to go kill people. That is not what God commands us to do." What about those who bomb abortion clinics in the name of God? Or the Old Testament and all the examples of genocide, rape and murder in the name of God and under his direct command? Why didn't they just edit those parts out of the bible if that was all mistaken?
Tony48219 was a Christian.
DeadBeatNick 1 year ago
@DeadBeatNick NO Tony was not a christian
etermal07g 1 year ago
@etermal07g what was he exactly?
DeadBeatNick 1 year ago
@DeadBeatNick What If an atheist went on a rampage and killed 20 people what would you say then.
The1Skinsfan 1 year ago
@The1Skinsfan We'll see when that happens. But look at the U.S. prison population and you'll notice that very few atheists exist there -- Less than 1 percent. 0.2 I think last time I checked where as we're over 10% of the US population. That's because we aren't willing to make stupid decisions like wasting the only life we have by committing absurd crimes in jail.
DeadBeatNick 1 year ago
@The1Skinsfan We'll see when that happens. But look at the U.S. prison population and you'll notice that very few atheists exist there -- Less than 1 percent. 0.2 I think last time I checked where as we're over 10% of the US population. That's because we aren't willing to make stupid decisions like wasting the only life we have by committing absurd crimes in jail.
DeadBeatNick 1 year ago
1:22 gear fail, u fool.
hahahahahaha
thedayitriedtodie 1 year ago
What exactly did you say to him? Because sometimes when Christians try to help they end up coming off as arrogant. Usually something like, "Jesus loves you." or "Bless you." I'm an atheist if I was to say something like, "Science be with you." or "May logic guide you." You'd see me as arrogant. Just saying that sometimes its better to leave things alone.
Also, when was the last time an atheist nutjob killed someone? I'd like to read about that story.
DuykRuyk 1 year ago
@DuykRuyk There have been many incidents
etermal07g 1 year ago
@etermal07g Do tell, I'll wait....
DuykRuyk 1 year ago
whenever a christian does something wrong the other christian kick the person out of their group to make the group look good.
ilovetheview47 1 year ago
yes, its clear the murder has no responcablity for what he's done. Maybe if his victim had just not expressed her own religious beliefs he wouldnt have killed her. Oh no wait, it was those damn guns again killing people. Typical of chrisitans to never take responcablity for anything, and always pan it off on someone or something else, God's will, Satan, Muslims, Atheists...they can never blame themselves...they are 'prefect' through Christ, what a joke
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago
@DaytonaRoadster You do realize that he's explaining that what he did was wrong, but it's not JUST because he was a "christian" is why he snapped. He's saying that all belief systems have "extremists" that would easily do harm to someone. I believe that no matter your belief system your still at fault. (i dont even know where im going with this, its 3:32am and im wacked out of my mind :/)
WoaBonus 1 year ago
I'm just now hearing about this sad story. Apparently Jesus and God weren't enough to help this guy. If he weren't so against science he might have received the help he needed via medication. This makes me sick to my stomach.
phxflyguy 1 year ago
@phxflyguy I'm also wondering where you think Tony is now. Do you believe that he's in Heaven because he was saved or Hell or because he's a murderer and comitted suicide.
phxflyguy 1 year ago
all the "help" this guy needed was a lethal ECT session.
fenderkid6 1 year ago
I like how you say fuck all about the poor girl that he shot.
I think that commenters had no effect on that guy whatsoever. Being nice would probably have encouraged him. Yes he needed help- but really, who would want to be friends with someone who acted like that?
How can you hope for the salvation of someone who shot an innocent girl? Or did she deserve it for being an atheist?
humancondition28 1 year ago
hey jezuzfaake - wassup guy
holywaterroller 1 year ago
You should not camera and drive, you say you watch the road, but I see your eyes aim at the camera all the time.
That said, when I first saw Tony, I thought he was a tard, but I never trolled him, because by the time I really learned about him, he was dead already.
Although to be honest I only feel sorry for the girl. Tony was aggressive, stupid, sexually harassed that girl he killed, and seemed to have nothing going for him. If he had only shot himself, I wouldn't miss him.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
Actually to be fair, I don't even think you have a bad point here. But 'kindness for hostile fucktards' is not MY business. I think that's reserved for nice people who are patient with others.
I could attempt to be those things, but it's just not me. And then I'd end up so frustrated I'd start to shoot people. So best for me if I am not nice to people I find annoying.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
For once I actually agree with Jeezuzfreak. Atleast hes not an arrogant holier-than-thou christian.
DirtyFuckingStudent 1 year ago
I knew after watching 1 of his vids that he was unstabe.Mix that with religion and nothing good can come from it.We are all responsible for our actions,christian and athiest alike.I remember talking to a friend at work about this guy and saying that he would become violent if you disagreed with him.
ranchai100 1 year ago
he was a big fan of VFX
swinewarrior 1 year ago
And this is exactly why I like the idea of atheism--go ahead and do whatever the hell one want (kill, murder, lynch, etc), that persons excuse will probably be something like... "It was god's will."
VirusMan254 1 year ago
stick your prayers up your backside. didn't do tony any good
fourbabies1 1 year ago
and jesus freak you can stick your prayers up your arse cause it never helped tony48219. your man jesus came to bring peace but the shit still goes on. religion has no place in the modern world
fourbabies1 1 year ago
atheists are people who need proofs/evidences before they believe anything. if you faithheads believe in fairytales then why can't we take the piss? if i told you faithheads that the earth is flat and rides on a turtle you would laugh and ask to be shown the turtle. i respect people but not any religious belief!!!!
fourbabies1 1 year ago
It's those godless atheists on youtube who "pushed him over the edge."
AggressiveAtheist 2 years ago
So your saying people on YouTube made him kill a girl?
In that case your comment to him has more of a valid effect of "Pushing him over the edge"
If I uploaded a rant saying "All Christians are rapist" I would expect to have hate mail.
Don't push the blame of someones problems onto the whole of YouTube.
phillitupp 2 years ago
This only proofs that this guy has no intelligence what so ever. "Its the same as saying ' thats what happens when your an atheist' ", thats EXACTLY what you people are saying, all the time! People like you basically tell atheists all the time that they'r going to hell and burn for their sins, but now your acting like you never said such a thing? Get the fuck off the internet please.
Agentbromsnor 2 years ago
No let me explain your system of constant failure forgiven by dead jews encourages this sort of monster that he is doing the ultimate good and according to your beliefs he is in heaven.
ytben26 2 years ago
Tony48219 lived his life through youtube. The people who left those comments were a contributing factor in pushing him over the edge. He had a mental problem but people took advantage of that, manipulating him for their own ego. I am not religious in any sense but people got off on goading him online. The words you say make a great impression on people. THose people had a chance to improve someone elses life and to change the destiny of another but instead they were just as ignorant.
khalilahinjapan 2 years ago
After he abuses atheists in the highest degree, and says we "aren't even human" we are expected to talk to him with respect?? What a stupid video jezuzfreek. 'You did not help him'. Blow me.
ElectricG 2 years ago
well said. blame everything except religion
fourbabies1 1 year ago
damn I was hoping you would at least take your eyes off the road for a minute and die
that would make 2 down.
to bad. :(
ChaosBW 2 years ago
Although I do not share your religion I think you can be reasonable at times. tis is a good video :)
theloveshineatheist 2 years ago
people have the right to say what ever they want, fuck you for trying to get people to censor them self's, if you go and kill someone and your self, because of what some one said about you you deserve to die. its time like this i wish there was a god because that scumbag would be burning in hell. so will that neck cranking hoe
elmexnpwr 2 years ago
i agree, Anthony. Im an atheist, but youre right. When i watched his video i thought "who is this mindless moron?!" but youre right, people probably couldve just left him alone.
Ilikenuman 2 years ago
if only one of u christians contacted Cobain, and not the mormons, like in the movie....
maybe jezusfreek777 could've saved him.....
man, even ur nick is ridiculous... ur not 16.
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
isnt this what you do with theamazingathiest ?
soldout4Jesus100 2 years ago
Being respectful and forthcoming to a psychopathic lunatic? What he needed was a straightjacket and a padded cell.
KarmaKahn 2 years ago
Religious are less likely to seek professional help for mental illnesses. Something to keep in mind.
secchioo 2 years ago
Religious people (Catholics, in particular) are also more likely to suffer from "demonic possession." In fact, Catholics are the only people who ever get possessed. Go figure.
porsche911sbs 2 years ago
But regardless of whether he was a christian or not, won't he go to hell for committing suicide?
thornekatt 2 years ago
If you're going to put yourself out on youtube for whatever reason, then expect criticism.
SwervMontana 2 years ago
Besides the issues, i think if he wud have been that troubled, that he shudve been gone to a psychiatry, and/ or talk to a friend, maybe he dint have friends, maybe he did but he dint talk bout it. i think he expressed his anger thru hatin on other religions. ive met friends like that and its not nice. also , i think everybody shud just stick to what they believe and not go on religions; as it was the base to many many wars since mankind can remember. so stick to your belief and dont be misled!
silverhawkroman 2 years ago
sad thing is he took a moderately hawt chick with him... he trolled youtube then an heroed himself and took some pussy with him... ...he seems like a cock block to me ;O
turnipdaisy 2 years ago
There is always room for civility.
pumkinpi2 2 years ago
One more thing. You talk about respect and love, but are you not the one that calls the amazingatheist the "amazingbutthole"?
rm991 2 years ago
Also I doubt many xtians would not be pointing the finger if Tony was an atheist. They would have said that he had no morals because of the lack of god in his life. They would say that this happens when man is made the master. I've seen it many times before.
Nevertheless while Xtianity fed a few of his delusions it should not be blamed for what happened. By far the main factors were his mental issues.
rm991 2 years ago
Exactly
This guy had mental issues. The only thing I have to say about his relationship with Christianity is that Christianity can be easily used as a tool of hatred, closed-mindedness, and bigotry, all of which Tony seemed to display. While some of his actions defy the rules of the Bible, some of the views he had are indicative of just how easily skewed Christianity and religion in general can become in someone's mind.
I think Tony said "you suck" and "you die" more than any party involved.
robobrow 2 years ago
While it is obvious now that Tony had many issues aside from Xtianity, Xtianity no doubt contributed to his negative views on women. The bible has many clear passages where women are put below men (1 Cor 11 comes to mind). Xtianity was the main religion in the west for more than 1000 years yet women were never made equal to men. Not until Xtianity was subjugated to secular institutions did this happen. In fact the last bastions of inequality between men and women today are some churches.
rm991 2 years ago
Most of the people who ridiculed, mocked, attacked Tony are probably psychopaths themselves for they took delight in the obvious misery and illness of another person. Now these same people are celebrating or mocking his death; they just have no class, no restraint on their psychopathic enjoyment of the misery of others, These are probably the same ones who'd stand by with their cell phones recording a gang rape or murder so they can post it on youtube rather than calling the police.
ChristianMission 2 years ago
I'm not buying he became a murderer because someone posted nasty comments on his page. I understand trying to make sense out of what happened, but he brought that anger and rage to youtube with him.
icthus560 2 years ago
agreed. but i think youtube fueled his anger and pushed him over the edge.
TheShakty1 2 years ago
He didn't kill some random youtuber who had been particularly hateful to him, he killed a woman he was obsessed with, a woman who never displayed the juvenile name calling you think is partly to blame for his behaviour. The internet may be a safe haven for angry people like him, but I don't think there is any evidence that the internet actually creates that anger.
icthus560 2 years ago
i didn't say the internet created that, but it only made it worse. he found people that were atheist.. and since he already hated them he got even more angry...
i also did not say that name calling made it worse? where did you get that statement?
TheShakty1 2 years ago
so you think it was the presence of atheists that made it worse, not the harassment from some of them?
icthus560 2 years ago
yeah.. pretty much i mean, you saw his videos right?
TheShakty1 2 years ago
Trying to be friends with him? Seriously? Not villainize him? How? You can't help someone who doesn't even know that he needs help. You can't help someone who villainizes everyone but a small group of people. If there would have been an atheist, saying: "Dude, you need help. Here's the phone number of a good psychiatrist." you think, he would have accepted that?
He villainized everyone who didn't share his beliefs and those who did wouldn't think that he needed help.
MetaKnight345 2 years ago
Listen, I don't believe in creationism but this dude has a point. While I don't think it's the responsibility of random others to try and help this man, there is absolutely no need to be so obnoxious and hateful just because you are an anonomous face on the internet. People constantly flaming back and fourth, calling this guy a fag, or that guy a bitch, and hoping people get killed or telling others they should kill them self is completely uncalled for.
Griminal 2 years ago
An hero + 1
good night sweet prince
MrDylaneric 2 years ago
Oh you're so cool with your 4chan memes.
Griminal 2 years ago
Quite original too might I add
Griminal 2 years ago
So what if I liked the guy? I still do.
He was a fine human being and did what he felt was right. People should follow in his footsteps.
MrDylaneric 2 years ago
I sure wouldn't have wanted to be friends with him. I couldn't have cared less if he killed him self, one less jerk in the world. It's a tragedy that he took the life of an innocent person in the process.
andytom 2 years ago
Nigga I aint dead i iz still here!
tony482I9 2 years ago
holy shit?!
Zurassh 2 years ago
Surprised? haha
tony482I9 2 years ago
You forgot to wipe the cum off your face before you turned the camera on.
deengew 2 years ago
Quit feeling sorry for that asshole! Just because he had a so-called "problem". If you're fucking crazy and all you like to do is kill people, then you need to be whiped out! Point blank. He was a faggot!
MissMarthaMay3288 2 years ago
I'm an atheist, and i can say that its not the fault of the christian religion, and there are completely reasonable religious people(who don't go door to door and annoy the crap out of people) but religion offers a channel, to give the opportunity to hate, religion may not lead to killing, but it can add to madness. 2:08 atheists would not in an uproar, because its very close to what ben stein said. And for the record Tony481 deserves absolutely no respect.
DMCv3142 2 years ago
Tony 48219 could not even see through a clean window never mind a guy pretending to be a christian
GodMarley666 2 years ago
jezuzfuck24777 .....xD
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
neoarcadezr YOU THINK THAT'S FUNNY YOU STUPID IDIOT?
pimas11 2 years ago
its HILLARIOUS have u seen his videos thats result of religion he was a byproduct of religion
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
Don't agree with you much Jezusfreek777 but on this particular situation I guess you're correct. Its person's mind who causes it not the religion to me.
MrPuffyable 2 years ago
what a bunch of bullshit.
"Yeah the guy said im not a true christian, to bad this other murdering dumbfuck wasnt as smart as me"
Hey asshole no one is buying this bullshit
Do you even realize how much of an asshole you made yourself out to look on this video?
qarohc 2 years ago
He was a man that was delusional....and he lived in an enviroment that encouraged his delusion. Fundamentalist (insert anything) DOES lead to this. No not on the individual level....but it will encourage the unstable that join that group. Fundamentalism prevents people like this from distinguishing reality and fantasy. You dont hand a delusional person a book full of stories of magic and miracles. It only strengthens their delusion. You hand them logic and reason so they may see it.
boorens18 2 years ago
If perhaps Tony were a better person, then maybe he wouldn't have gotten hateful comments. If a person is running around yelling "fuck you! you're wrong, I'm right! FUCK YOU!!!!," then i guarantee you'd leave him hateful responses. He was a fool and a lowlife, he knew it, and did himself in.
JamesStarkweather 2 years ago
This is an atheist saying that this is the best video on this subject. Probably the first 5 stars I have given to a Xtian vid. It is so easy to lose sight of how you could affect a person's life with a few kind words. There is a difference between an asshole and a lunatic
My only criticism is, Fundies point the finger at advocates of Evolution when it comes to tragedy as well. As TF pointed out, Kent Hovind blamed Columbine on the teaching of Evolution.
Dusty341 2 years ago
are you serious?
Did you watch the video?
He basically said that some mystery person lead this murdering dumbfuck to this. But the manipulating asshole secretly told him that he wasn't a real Christian.
What kind of demented mind thinks of this stuff? And thinks others will believe it.
and you are defending him because he blames the "haters" that responded to the murdering assholes fuck you videos.
I think this is the only vid on youtube thats actually ever made me get mad.
qarohc 2 years ago
No dude, he wasn't blaming anyone else for that tragedy. He was calling people out for being down right HATEFUL to this lunatic. The message I got from this vid was: How different could things have been, if the outraged people watching his videos had tried to help Tony instead of aggravating him with vile and hateful messages? As for the mystery xtians, dunno if that's true.
Dusty341 2 years ago
Of course I disagree with Jezuzfreek's methods, but his heart is in the right place. I think he genuinely wanted to help Tony.
Dusty341 2 years ago
Shits himself at 1:21
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago
I agree with this guy and i am Atheist. Lets just put our religion aside and try to live in harmony. We shouldnt try to toss it in peoples faces and try to convert others.
DanusMax 2 years ago
Atheism is not a religion.
yuothineyesasian 2 years ago
Exactly.
MrPuffyable 2 years ago
rofl wow anyone that makes utube vids should just accept the fact they will get hate comments so making a vid will bring that to yourself
blingking880 2 years ago
The only bad thing that happened here was the murder of this girl.
As for Tony? Obviously he was a weak human being and did not warrant living.
He did us all a favor in ending his pitiful time on this earth, he just didn't need to take that girl with him.
azdvldog 2 years ago
Your a hypo emotional faggot, Your a fucking lie, Your fucking faith
is blaspheme to life, Your a fucking faggot. Ave satanas, Your god
is fucking dead, Rupture christs ass with his burnt wooden cross,
fucking laughing stock to the modern world. Fuck christ christ is dead
Fuck your god hes fucking dead too, I rip your holy book to fucking shreds
you fucking ego christian shit eating fundi maniac, I feel sorry for your kids,
Fucking virgin brats will never see cunt. Pathetic cuntlipped fool.
iCUMFUDGE 2 years ago
jesusfreak please dont kill anyone for your mythical sky daddy
nyarltep 2 years ago
are you shitting me??? its random people on youtube's job to help a psycho gain self esteem? honestly thats stupid as hell.
"you did not help him?" stop making excuses for him.
"i tried to be a friend to him" wow. way to wash your hands of all blame.
fucking self righteous bullshit.
theZodiacDigital 2 years ago
I respect your views. I think that there are good believers and good non believers. Also bad Christians and Bad Atheists.
Morals can be based in scripture, but I feel they ultimately come from the heart also. I don't really believe if I stole all the Bibles that Christians would be amoral. Empathy is always going to affect our actions and decisions.
So maybe good people are not so different, even if they are on opposite sides of the fence.
Peace
HeftyHeathen 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm agnostic, I've never read the bible. It's all about empathy. I don't do anything considered immoral, unless it's not hurting anyone or myself. I don't like telling happy Christians my beliefs and try to get them to change theirs.
Jezusfreek actually seems like a good person. And anyways, if people weren't expressing their beliefs on youtube and causing arguments, it would be very boring. Unless you constantly watch keyboard cat videos.
Killcows 2 years ago
I agree... Its kinda sad why people leave harsh comments, like the girl who killed herself because people were making fun of her on my space... People need love...
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gzyyy6 2 years ago
soundenergyfusion "move on with your life without leaving pointless, not to mention untrue comments" You mean as pointless as commanding someone to not do that which has already been done? Yes, I'll alter the space time continuum just cuz you sez so. Not to mention commands the recipient has no intention of heeding. You can focus your attention while driving? You can't even focus your attention sitting at a keyboard. Oh look here I've gone and left another comment.
WordOfTheLivingLie 2 years ago
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WordOfTheLivingLie 2 years ago
nice humanist values jfreak.
respect for each other without considering
life choices, belief system or what tribe you belong to.
But who came up with the whole "He who is not with me is against me" nonsense?
hard to have it both ways.
I'm not being a smart ass.
But some books really need a rewrite, know what I mean.
mikkfrmoz 2 years ago
And of course, anyone who dares impugn the holy bible is unholy is naturally reducing the argument to name calling. It is called bloodthirsty, because it's god calls for blood.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
No. Christianity is another governmental ruling class for slaves. It is not a religion. And if you knew so much about your religion, perhaps you wouldn't have mentioned David as the proper role model. Or maybe you would have figured out the difference between the 2 laws and the 10 commandments. But you didn't, so reading comprehension obviously wasn't high on your educational to-do list in your studies.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
you haven't been washed clean of shit. u r so ignorant of your own religion it is pathetic. where do you think the term judeo-christianity comes from? wtf? you fundies don't even know your own relgiion. of course, those who do study that bs are called atheists or at least of some other religion as it is mostly proven bullshit.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
oh yeah, I believe Christ didn't exactly pay much attention to those sabbath rules ether. they are a reminder of the blood which applies to christianity. The blood of the most murderous religion I have ever heard of. No love in those 10, just bullshit propaganda. If you read your iwn book, you would have figured out the irrelevancy of the 10 with the 2. But the bloodthirsty powermongers love the ten because they get their power out of the blood if it's followers.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
the ten commandments are not necessary. they are from a different religion. They are judaic. they got pissed because jesus didn't use them, just went by the two. why the hell would you need them if you followed the 2. you think people might get confused on stealing and murder? wtf? get real.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
Oh yes, good king david the foreskin collector. Great guy to have ovler for dinner. the old testament sucks for good people.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
Yes you can. If you follow the 2 you won't break the ten, but you can break the 2 and follow the ten. They are of a different religion entirely. The first part of the two states there is but one god. The jews just claimed theirs as theirs, and the others as weaker.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
Oh yeah, like when they murdered the women and children in the land of honey to take Israel. Good first use of an army there. The Old Testament is full of assholes who stole, lied. enslaved, and much worse. Not too much in the way of good people in those heroes. More like a bunch of thugs.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
How about if Shiva was the real one and jesus was just a thought shiva had while stoned? lol
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
If christianity paid any attention to the laws attributed to jesus, they would not be a dominant force in supporting wars (support the troop school). pro-torture abortion bombings. and the list goes on. If fundies paid attention to those two laws instead of cheering on the 10 commandments, i could at least respect the religion. I respect people who follow the 2 laws but the christian religion is deadly.
wingsuitfreak 2 years ago
Sure his attention isn't divided, of course not. Perfectly safe to be babbling away with your mind primarily on the content of your Youtube video.
If you happened to hit some kid, I'm sure this would go over big at your trial.
"Am I to understand Mr. Freek that at the time that you ran over little Sally you were talking into a video camera while driving?"
WordOfTheLivingLie 2 years ago
Imma get you too nigga
tony482I9 2 years ago
...it's not what goes into your mouth, but what comes out of your mouth that makes you unclean.
in this case it was a shotgun.......irony or divine intervention, you decide.......
Kalezian 2 years ago
you posted like 3 comments
lol
LTmattYT 2 years ago
"We need to realize why these things happen and it is because of hatred and lack of respect for others. And, of course, mental illness."
_You don't see the problem here?
I watched the video again for you're sake.
All I can say to this guy is, I hope your driving to a job. Something productive I hope, since you just wasted my time.Twice.
RandyLayhea 2 years ago
You're a good guy jezusfreek.
R0L4M 2 years ago
Jezuzfreek777, you're a good guy. You may have said some foolish things, but you're a good person.
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
Okay, there is a way to fix all of this. Send a T-800 back in time, and kill Tony48219 before he can kill that poor girl.
Fluorescent523 2 years ago
or just kill yourself for making this bullshit youtube drama anything more than something to laugh about on ed
LTmattYT 2 years ago
Well said , as I agree people can impact each other in a meaningful way. Alot of people say its not my probelm or I dont care. I saved a friend on the edge once with the right words, just unfortunately the right words never found tony. Rest in peace both Tony and Asia.
Lastjustice 2 years ago
Asia McGowan,Tony48219 rest in piece. I talked to both of them , its sad what happen.
artistcrowley 2 years ago
Respecting other people is something that i don't think is taught much to people anymore or its just that people don't really care about other except themselves. I respect everyone opinions and work such as youtube videos, and other things.I may not like them or i may have a different opinion about it, but i still respect them and don't bash them because of their opinion.Just like Fred on youtube.I can't really stand his videos,But i don't troll him or disrespect him either. Just respect others.
TheMav3rick 2 years ago
continued:
The power of the tongue is very powerful.
TheMav3rick 2 years ago
some people need to be talked about and somone is always going to disagree with you. with an open forum where anyone can view you, there is not and should not be restrictions, you just have to take someone comments with the weight of what you view of them. protect freedom of speech
Simplify1122 2 years ago
admit it you're insane.
verstwo2 2 years ago
Tony a christian with "gods absolute morality" commited suicide, the "ultimate sin"
Now thats comedy.
Surathan 2 years ago
Suicide is not the ultimate sin. Where does it say that in the Bible? The greatest sin to God is rejecting His son.
NoFaceNowThatsAce 2 years ago
It doesnt have to say it in the bible to be true
ask PCS
"It doesnt say anywhere in the bible that god will restore peoples legs" its a fact.
Oh wait, right, sorry... PCS doesnt read the bible, he gets all his information direct from his imagination.
Surathan 2 years ago
Some Youtubers did see it coming. From my understanding, TONY48219 posted a couple of video last week or so, where he appeared very Suicidal...Out of cercern, some youtubers informed YOUTUBE and Detriot Police. No one was able to save TONY including his family.
allTRIPLE1 2 years ago
lol Tony did it for jesus and venonFangX
vinetari 2 years ago
He was a bastard
Mark1MileLeft 2 years ago
Tony was a very disturbed individual. I believe (as his mom has said) that Tony had a lot of good in him, but his illness , whatever it was (bi-polar? Psychosis?) was the MAIN factor in what he did. His religious beliefs and or the subsequent attention he got for his views just exascerbated his problems. No one with any intelligence would consider his death a good thing. It was just tragic. had he got help, took meds...it may have been different. He was just very very disturbed.
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DawnHeyNow 2 years ago
I think you think too much. I hope your driving to a job. Something productive I hope, since you just wasted my time.
RandyLayhea 2 years ago
respect should be earned not given
CliveSinclairZX 2 years ago
Isn't this pot calling the kettle black? A bit?
turcca 2 years ago
Obviously its a tragedy.
I think anybody who honestly blamed VFX would have to be smoking something illegal.
I think, most people, theist, atheist, agnostic, would only blame one person for the terrible tragedy and that is sadly likely to be the individual involved.
Suicide is bad enough, only murder is worse. :(.
whoinventedwhom 2 years ago