GE Dash 8-40CW Autostart (cold start)

[sertox12345]

they should use start they had for planes rember i dont know what they arecalled they would do the job

[craeburn31]

Technically the Aux Generator is used as a starter.. (which is directly connected to the main gen)

[SpeakerPolice]

I think you are correct :3

[lj2729]

man the starter on these trains must be huge to fight all that diesel compresion

[SpeakerPolice]

They are. Many use the main generator as the starter!

[alexander1485]

mmmmm CW40-8

[Eng8492]

Should have been in Maximum Overdrive, or a Killdozer Sequel.

[SpeakerPolice]

That would be interesting to see O_o xD

[mattdean1003]

Did you happen to take this camera with a Canon SX20is by chance?

[SpeakerPolice]

This was taken using a Kodak EasyShare M1033.

[klaudinhopinduca]

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EMD GM SD40-T2 9462 na Ponte na Serra do Cadeado

Trem na Serra do Cadeado

U40 patinando

C22 no Viaduto Paraná

serra a baixo

maquinista conduzindo um trem

[klaudinhopinduca]

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Subindo lch-ltd trem C33

Km 39

TREM ALL- G22U com tração maxima na rampa em Curitiba.

TREM ALL-Ramal LBR Rio Branco do Sul - Cargueiros 2008

Super-Distribuida da ALL subindo a Serra do Mar/PR

[klaudinhopinduca]

I am a train driver in the company ALL here in Curitiba - Paraná - Brazil Here locomotives are quite different from Curitiba ramail Work at the port of Paranagua

[SpeakerPolice]

Very cool, ALL have awesome locomotives :)

[petitnj]

Submarines only have one high pressure air system. It is spread among many tanks with check valves between some of the banks. But there is usually one system used primarily for blowing ballast tanks. The tanks are used for blowing ballast tanks normally thru a manifold but in an emergency, they dump directly into the ballast tanks.

[metroliner89]

Genset Switchers sound wierd when starting! I was in Bay city, TX and saw a couple BNSF gensets and pulled over to see them and one of the engines started!

[BTCRAIL101FILMS]

Yea, it was something like this. But it wanst an auto start.

[SpeakerPolice]

Ah, I see.

[petitnj]

Air start requires a fully charged air tank. Most air systems leak enough to lose their air in a day or so. Since you have to start it with the battery anyway, locomotives are wired to battery start.

[SpeakerPolice]

This is true. xD

[sloowburn]

@petitnj isnt there a separate tank for the air starters???? i remember testing those during some commissioning of new units..

[spartan0738]

poor engine lol looks and sounds pretty beaten up

[SpeakerPolice]

CSX beats the crap out of their Dash 8s. xD

[gnukix]

@spartan0738 yeaaah CSX runs their gear into the ground, sounded like this one allllmost didn't make it to life when the auto start went off!

[SpeakerPolice]

I would not be surprised.

[stonent]

If it ruins the batteries to cold start these engines, I wonder why they don't have an air starter?

[SpeakerPolice]

Air starting is not as widely used here in the US as it is in Europe. I think some of CSX's SD70MAC's have air starters, though. It doesn't really ruin the batteries, only damages them if the engine doesn't want to start. xD

[Vaportrail69]

Wow...what a crappy paint job

[SpeakerPolice]

*laughs out loud* Tell me about it xD

[GTASAModder1]

sounds like a ton of bottles clanking

[SpeakerPolice]

I totally agree. xD

[chipjumper]

Sounds like my Volkswagen trying to start

[SpeakerPolice]

Ahahaha, that made me LOL my arse off. xDDD *gigglesnort*

[SpeakerPolice]

Haha, the locomotive you heard in another of my videos may have been an EMD. xD They sound smoother than the GEs do. If it was my B40-8 startup video, that one sounded smoother and more powerful because the engineer was manually cranking the engine up a few notches to warm it up faster. AESS stands for 'Automatic Engine Start and Stop', and it is a computer system that's designed to save fuel by regulating the engine's activity.

[aTribeCalledNate]

we heard this last night, soo blazed, thought it was optimus prime

[SpeakerPolice]

Haha, wow. xD

[xtremepadrefan]

awesome sound

[SpeakerPolice]

Thanks ^^

[xtremepadrefan]

@SpeakerPolice I grew up with these but in ATSF livery :D

[SpeakerPolice]

The Superfleet! 8D Such a shame the condition they're in now...

[Rtchugg]

They shut down and turn on for reasons to save fuel and to stay warm

[SpeakerPolice]

Yes, that's correct. Though down here in Florida, they don't really get the chance to get cold. xD

[morfeusz120]

Great video!

[SpeakerPolice]

Thanks!

[train2589]

ge more like emd imatators. early emd's have the burgling when starting up and i think the sound is awsome.

[SpeakerPolice]

Yeah, I agree. xD

[BigBoyO56]

The Dash 8-40CW narrow nose is ugly to me

[SpeakerPolice]

Narrow nose? What do you mean? Comparing it to what? xD

[BigBoyO56]

@SpeakerPolice The narrow nose Dash8 diesal engine GE build it...It's brothers to the wide nose Dash8-40CW.

[SpeakerPolice]

What, you mean a standard cab C40-8? Wow, I happen to greatly prefer those over the widecab models. Much rarer, and better built, in my experience. xD

[BigBoyO56]

@SpeakerPolice Go to google images and type in''Dash 8 narrow nose diesal engine. you'll see then.

[SpeakerPolice]

Yes, like the 7509. I prefer those guys, actually. xD

[BigBoyO56]

@SpeakerPolice OOOOOOOKKKKKKKKK

[Herve747]

Ok but nice sound ! Some clatterings!

[SpeakerPolice]

Yes, it's great =)

[Herve747]

"8 in-line" sound!

[SpeakerPolice]

Rather, "vee 16" sound! xD

[nikandraathelvete]

I love those big diesels.

I live ca 50m from a trainstation.

When a diesel train idles, the earth is shaking.

[SpeakerPolice]

Isn't it great? =)

[truckeetl79]

Sounds great to be an engineer, until you realize that the railroad owns you.

[SpeakerPolice]

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Yeah, engineers work long hours and are always on call, but I wouldn't say that a company 'owns' their employees xD

[mp897]

Great one Patrick! Love the GE!

[SpeakerPolice]

Thanks! =)

[mikefromont]

I Cranked the Bass Up, Had the Whole House Shakin.. lol Great Video!! thanx

[SpeakerPolice]

It sounds great with bass, doesn't it? xD You're welcome =)

[danwat1234]

@SpeakerPolice Sounded like the mic was a bit overloaded after the engine got into it's groove .. great vid though, r u an engineer?

[SpeakerPolice]

It shouldn't have been, I've recorded much noisier things (horns xD) without problems. And no, I'm not an engineer, though it would be an awesome job to have. 8D

[captainmcduche]

i will keep watching your vids till you stop hehe

[captainmcduche]

beautiful! love that train. great vids keep it up!

[SpeakerPolice]

Thank you =)

[stormspotter67]

add bass to the noise of the engine n it sounds pretty cool

[SpeakerPolice]

I agree, adding bass to almost any loco engine makes it better. xD

[phildoethedildoe]

Another thing that GE added to their Later Model Dash-8 and Dash-9 Locomotives was the advent of an Auto charge system for the Batteries. If the Lead Loco tossed the Main Generator you could Couple the power from the other engines(Providing they were also GE's) and you could still operate that lead engine as a Slug with the traction motors still being powered.

[SpeakerPolice]

Really now?! That's pretty dang cool!

[6V92TA]

@phildoethedildoe i think that feature now is in place for all locomotives from the late 80s up.

[phildoethedildoe]

@6V92TA Your right, i do Believe that all GE locomotives have that same feature installed on them, but you would be amazed at how many there are still out there without that innovation installed. I still got to say that there is no soothing feeling like being in the Engineers seat of a GE Diesel. Makes one feel like your operating an old Alco.

[Mirage2000H]

Is it true that American diesel locos use regular water for water cooling? I've read it on Wikipedia...

Also that would make also a lot of sense for the autostart, so that the coolant doesn't freeze. But it bothers me, why not use antifreeze just in case?

[SpeakerPolice]

Most do use regular water, although some railroads elect to use antifreeze as an additive. Or so that's what I've been told. =)

[CP359]

I believe it's typically water treated with anti-corrosives, but not antifreeze. Before APUs were in common use, an engine would dump its coolant if the prime mover was shut down and the temp approached freezing, so it wouldn't crack the block. The environmental authorities weren't crazy about having 450 gallons of antifreeze being dumped :o) so it was typically just treated water. Now with APUs to start up the locomotive, freezing temps (and dumping water) aren't much of a concern.

Dave

[SpeakerPolice]

Thanks very much for that, I wasn't sure. Now I am =)

[jagboi64]

Water has more heat capacity than a water glycol mix, so the radiators would need to be bigger if antifreeze were used.

For a 50/50 mix the radiators need to be about 15% larger to be able to shed the same amount of heat as water only.

[horseguy1]

@jagboi64 i never realized that it was that much....

[freedomunrestricted]

@Mirage2000H Some UP locomotives use antifreeze but they are few and far between. Automatic water dump valves and Guru plugs dump a locomotives water if water temp drops below 35-40 depending on the system specifics. Biggest flaw with antifreeze is if it isn't closely monitored and straight water is added it can end up defeating the purpose. And it is usually easier just to dump a units water, shut it down and drag it to a shop.

[Superedit]

Good catch! Sounds like a big truck...very similar to the Cat engines.

[SpeakerPolice]

Hey...you're right! XD and thanks!

[dueltruck700]

yeah it basicly is except onb a larger scale..love the sound of a diesel engine!!

[SpeakerPolice]

You and me both! =D

[skodas]

nice sound

[SpeakerPolice]

Thanks!

[skodas]

ive have heard many trains but this ones the nices sound almost like a V8

[SpeakerPolice]

It's basically two V8's together. =)

[joejeckle]

the funny thing is ive seen a BNSF new and older engines sit for hours but never heard them auto start or shut down and i figured bnsf 2933 would have that feature even tho it's older but i guess they don't use it

[SpeakerPolice]

It's hard to say when a locomotive will actually autostart; it's rarely used unless the locomotive is sitting ready to pull a train, at least in this area. If the loco is stored in a yard, it's not used much.

[strato311]

Yea most likely this was just the autostart system...alot of GE locos, well probably all of them, and others are equipped with it basically just to keep power running through the engine and to keep it warm and what not...usually it starts and stops like every 15 minutes or so, theres a timer in the cab. Also it could be used kind of as a "defense mechanism" incase someone wants to try and get inside, theyll hear the engine turn on and the radio in the cab thinking itll be occupied.

[roundhouser]

The AESS activates after being stopped for more than a few minutes. There is a button you can push to extend the time or suspend the AESS. When it kills a engine, it doesnt start unless their is a drop in train line pressure, or the reverser is moved in either direction. If it is below 35 degress or the batteries are weak, AESS wont kill the engine. Saving diesel is the major reason for this system.

[csxcw44ac]

I see that alot. The train would be fully on,radio and everything but nobodys in the cab.

[SpeakerPolice]

Exactly. I figured it might autostart because just about everything but the prime mover was on.

[Krause12689]

its because the batteries cost thousands for these and everytime you start a locomotive up when its cold, it eats up about 1/50th of the battery life

[SpeakerPolice]

That also makes sense. Cold engines take a lot more juice (and time) to crank.

[sloowburn]

@Krause12689 thoses batteries are brutal.. i dont have to change them that much..

[SpeakerPolice]

BIG 64-volt batteries. xD