I just discovered Jonh Cage. I must say that I am amazed by the fact that there are idiots who think he is a genius. Come on! This guy is insane, he is just laughing at you, assholes who think that you discovered something in his "music"! Wake up morons!
@Ugallardo Some of his stuff is just garbage that fools buy because he comes up with some pretentious explanation for it. Other compositions of his, though, are actually kind of good.
This is actually footage of a conversation with Cage, edited by the filmmaker. But it is apt to focus on the incidental sounds taking place in the kitchen given the subject of Cage, and this well-known anecdote about his diet. I really don't know if the word masterpiece can be applied to Cage's work or his attitude about the status any of his pieces should have. He has said before that some people can take his work too seriously, others not serious enough, and others just right.
@ArtD42 You can't denounce music just because it's mainstream, but I don't really enjoy Miley Cyrus's "music" just from hearing it or see any amount of talent in it that makes it something special (autotune and mass-produced lyrics on a cheap beat, come on.) I never really could stand true mainstream music although I mostly grew up on classic popular music. I want to listen to Cage, Shoenburg, Xenakis, Stockhausen etc. every moment and there's nothing wrong with that.
So let me get this straight. John Cage builds himself a snack and you fools think he's composed a sonic masterpiece? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, etc., etc., etc.
@fscarp lol... you're missing the point, it's not a musical masterpiece, it's deeper than that, it's questioning what music and masterpieces even are... don't take it too seriously!
@fscarp It all has to do with how you define music.
If you think that music is only what you hear on mtv and other mainstream musical sources then these are just plain sounds to you. Fair enough.
If, however, you perceive every single sound as music then it's a different story.
It's a matter of one's point of view. If now you want to be a jerk and play mr smart in youtube it shows perfectly how holistic and egotistic your view is.
@fscarp Doesn't really matter if Cage does it or if you do it. It's not a question of if it's music or not - music is just the art of sound through time. The only reason Cage gets the fame for it is because he brought awareness to the idea of this concept of understanding sound.
creo que el arte se hace por necesidad no por que otros deban aceptarlos una de las características del arte es precisamente que no sirve para nada mas que para expresar y comunicar esa avalancha de sentimientos e ideas que llevamos dentro el arte no es dibujar bien o pinar bonito no es complacer al mundo es ante todo complacerte a ti mismo y ser honesto en lo que haces jamas podríamos comparar a cortazar o quizás a borges con la escritora de los libros de harry potter
@fscarp I love John Cage and his pieces but I do not think they are masterpieces (masterpiece is subjective anyway)... They are just sounds - as he would say himself - I like listening to them, simple.
I'm a fan of everybody from Cage to Schoenberg to Xenakis to Stokhausen, and yet, I may want to listen to a Miley Cyrus song more than a Cage composition, simply because I might feel it's more beautiful. Very often the opposite is the case - but it's useless to categorically denounce "mainstream" music because it doesn't follow some sort of intellectual viewpoint you agree with. If anything, Cage taught that ALL music can be beautiful, even Miley Cyrus.
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@Gargantupimp What's the need of mentioning that? Seriously shut the fuck up about shit music, you're not getting smarter, it's a given that that is shit, jesus.
@P33N0 I'm just trying to express my views on the decline in quality of popular music. Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, I am not advertising for them, I am stating that they are inadequate.
And if 'artists' today want to succeed in the music business, I would suggest they fashion themselves after this piece of wonderful music!
This is truly Fascinating and I believe every musician can learn from it.
@Gargantupimp That's not entirely true, popular music has always had a cringe-worthy side. And a beautiful strong one. The "problem" is that this generation are being brought up imagining quality can be found in the x factor and that all the good unknown singers audition to get their breaks. Ironically only the ones with no hope would consider auditioning in the first place...Nothing more than karaoke meets marketing, eugh...but hey, so much new music is still as good as it ever was once, surely
it's so funny, seeing john cage, and then seeing the myriads of angry art snobs arguing over his music. he is one of the most laid back, happy people I've ever seen.
john cage is a yo-yo. all you intellectuals are dumb enough to hear music when some nut drags a feather across a cactus. i listen to music that has soul. And by that, maybe I mean notes. i thik i mean more by that. this guy's music has no soul. I owuldn't call it music. I'm not a snob. I like music. I never went to college. But I got ears don't i?
His 'Sonatas & Interludes for Prepared Piano' has plenty of emotional power.
The man clearly will never be appreciated by all listeners,though,inspite of the fact that he is far more the anti-snob than any classical composers in his inclusiveness of even untrained 'musicians.'
@HxHenry I can respect you not enjoying or liking his music, but you do not need to insult people that do, nor those who find it interesting. Its also ignorant and unfair to say John Cage's work has no soul.
@HxHenry There are many ways to create Music or to define it! There is the melody based music, but there is is also the experimental music. People like John Cage like to produce music out of noises, sounds...
I think ur ignorant if u say this kind of music has no "soul". i mean what can have more soul or natur in it, than natural and not defined sounds like dragging a feather across a cactus.. etc.
@HxHenry I have been a musician all my life. When you play music, you don't play notes; you make sounds. Notes are written mnemonic devices to remind the musician what sounds to make. Traditional notation makes limited indication of what kind of sound is desired, for example a pitch and a relative length of time to make the sound. Other features such as articulations are also given. But there are many other features in sounds besides these. FYI, Cage does use notation, even if non-traditional.
@DerangedRanger1 I agree, meloya are not required for muisx, and art music and anti-music excists too, music can be many on so many ways, and its subjective what ppls like. Some can actually prefer listening to Ambient-Noise art music and understand the melody(autist music development+) because peples can get used to different music if they heard it since early childhood, etc.
@DerangedRanger1 Part 2 because of YT limitations; And its subjective, i personly hate poop(pop..corn) music because its(espsecially in the 21 century today...) not about the music just about the fucking artist and fashion, wtf. poop music isn't music...
Cleo, I've never found John Cage to be arrogant, not from what I've read or heard... in fact I would say the opposite would be true of him. I did, however, find your comment to be arrogant, arrogant and bitter actually. I'm saying this about the comment itself, and not you personally. This morning I listened to Couperin, then Hummel, then Cage and never felt any internal conflict. I say that just to make a point. Also, I really don't think Cage should be blamed for the professors you dislike.
At the end of his class, Daniel Brou agreed to write me a letter of recommendation. One year later, I mailed him a cv, statement of purpose, and description of my proposed dissertation. I never heard from him. I orignally mailed him one year later. I only found out recently--THREE YEARS LATER after I sent this material--that he had thrown all of this away and not sent me an email to inform me. He doesn't consider this behavior "unprofessional."
well john cage is such a musical genious that I thought he doesnt even joke. i really want to get thin like him so i can be a genious as well and write such profound music that is almost as good as blink 182...
Dice que está siguiendo una dieta macrobiotica, gracias a John Lennon y Yoko Ono, que consiste en sustituir las grasas animales por vegetales, que antes su muñeca era mucho más gorda, que hace nueve años era incapaz de levantar la taza, que solía tomar 12 aspirinas al día durante 15 años y que tras una semana de dieta ya no las necesitaba y que alguien que se llama Shisuko le dijo que no había que tomar la dieta tan en serio; le dijo: "cuando estés con amigos puedes comer una patata!"
When this was recorded? I think that Pink Floyd were under this influence when they tried to record an album without instruments - ``Household Objects`` in 1974. I think they gave up after just 2 tracks finished.
@xxxslayerxxx666 I know he says it at the end. I just want to know, what he wants to say by that, why he laughes at the end, and why the comment that repeats the sentence has so many positive ratings. I just get nothing out of the sentence. Has nothing to do with adhd.
@mcr89x what he means by it is that when he is around his friends he is allowed to induldge, and since potato's are fattening he's allowed to eat one.....the joke is just that potato's are viewed as healthy food compared to the foods most of us would eat if we wanted to induldge.....that's not complicated one bit, unless you have adhd.
i hope this man died painfully, and all his kids saw it, and then they caught fire and all their nerves melted, and they're all in hell being fucked by wizard demons or some shit w/ huge cocks. the man is a crackpot bullshit lazy muthafucka!
It's not vegetarianism that decreases the size of the brain. It's the lack of the vitamin B12. You're not necessarily in lack of it if you refuse to eat meat or fish.
I don't understand what you're saying. If you're refering to my spelling mistake, I could illuminate it by saying that in my regional dialect of Dutch, a potato is called a 'patat'. (the common Dutch word for potato is 'aardappel', which means 'earth-apple', or as the French call it: 'pomme de tèrre' (although I'm not sure about the accent on the 'e' there). It remains funny nonetheless.
Oh sorry no I don't. I thought you we're making a silly joke. There's so much music I don't know, It's impossible to know everything. I know some music by Louis Armstrong but not that particular song :)
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to my ears he is as beckett to theatre. his writings have some of the most elegant sentences of the 20th century. he writes extensively about the virtues of emptyheadedness...i think fans ruin pretty much everything [religion, art, bands...] and i think its wrong to judge cage by some of the things that people have done after him. he was an excellent man with an excellent mind and our world is poorer for his absence. although he would probably say it is no poorer.
I agree with you that the fans are the most ruinous part of the John Cage phenomena, but like Beckett, some of Cage's works reek of artistic decadence and would have been better off left on the drawing board instead of thrown out into the public where they would inevitably be bloated and immaturely perceived. In a dumb intellectual society's hands, Cage's works have had a damaging effect on any composer who dares to use old-fashioned concepts like notes, counterpoint and rhythm.
i really dont know that many composers are anything other than positively influenced by him - expanding the parameters of available sound-production. i dont think his music is decadent either - if anything it tends towards stoicism or asceticism...mind you i dont know what decadence means - i think it has something to do with just hanging around not doing all that much and cage worked extremely hard right up until his death at 79.
The only thing bad about Schoenberg's influence, as with Cage, are people who take the ideas of serialism too seriously. Time has told, though, and the post-Schoenberg composers are probably the only ones in the music world who have anything left to say. The post-Cage bullshitters are following the example of a nihilistic and self-effacing decadent who would rather say fuck off to learning counterpoint, harmony, etc.. effectively rendered their own role obsolete and unnecessary. Brilliant :-|
Of course, most of the post-Schoenberg composers had simply used 12-tone writing as a springboard and ones who are still doing it never use it any sort of crutch. Many of them also have the decency to respect music as a discipline with a rich history, instead of turning it into a plaything or a joke. Because of Cage's crap, our newest generation of composition students seems to be able to get away with never developing any true musical discipline, since apparently everything is now valid.
This is pretty true. Since Shoenberg took tonality and music as far as it could go, we kind of hit a road block. At a music school, you still learn counterpoint and harmony, but it's with a grain of salt. Though, this has become what it is through a couple hundred years, not just after shoenberg/cage. Beethoven, who brought new ideas did not have much schooling. Being able to think outside the box helps, and these days we only have one foot in. If that makes any sense....
I have a problem with shitty music professors (and there are many of these) who get on with pressing Cageian agendas on their composition students at the expense of using a traditional approach and developing traditional disciplines. Could you imagine how well a mathematician functioned if they only studied mathematical ideas from the 1950s forward. People can create whatever sort of art they want. Adopting some arrogant Cageian mindset just gives a blank check to charlatans everywhere.
Where is this video from?
TheCyko157 2 weeks ago
I love how people don't even understand the meaning behind everything John Cage does... Close-minded people -___-
bonanahh 1 month ago
Gay people think they are artists..-_-
9Velja9 1 month ago
@fscarp
Get a life
Heisenberg85 2 months ago
Original Dubstep........
nutboy56 2 months ago
why the fuck he was talkinh about john lennon and yoko? I didnt understand...
nancynovais 2 months ago
@notadeala
Untill you mentioned it, I had never heard of Cypress Hill. But now that I have a chance to listen, I must say that I do not like them.
fscarp 3 months ago
esta idea estaba en un disco de Pink Floyd que nunca salió...
chemofloyd 5 months ago
The beginning reminds me of Requiem for a Dream.
BlackSabbathMonger 6 months ago
@BlackSabbathMonger
The fridge is after me!
marmaladekamikaze 5 months ago
I just discovered Jonh Cage. I must say that I am amazed by the fact that there are idiots who think he is a genius. Come on! This guy is insane, he is just laughing at you, assholes who think that you discovered something in his "music"! Wake up morons!
Ugallardo 6 months ago
@Ugallardo Some of his stuff is just garbage that fools buy because he comes up with some pretentious explanation for it. Other compositions of his, though, are actually kind of good.
Ajapam34 6 months ago
great! :)
Torsti2003z 6 months ago
alan's psichelelic break fast (pink floyd )
fabio78ist1 7 months ago
Biggest troll in musical history.
givenash 7 months ago
Definitely more than hundreds of amateur musicians remixed this.
JottScintille 7 months ago
The sound of one hand clapping idiots, typical NPR morons, duped again in their own little world of pretend.
Baileygeep7 7 months ago
This is actually footage of a conversation with Cage, edited by the filmmaker. But it is apt to focus on the incidental sounds taking place in the kitchen given the subject of Cage, and this well-known anecdote about his diet. I really don't know if the word masterpiece can be applied to Cage's work or his attitude about the status any of his pieces should have. He has said before that some people can take his work too seriously, others not serious enough, and others just right.
nobodady1 9 months ago
I was hoping for a peanut and jelly solo
MIEDNO 10 months ago 3
When youre with friends you can have a potato! XD
conversegrlsgonewild 10 months ago
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Jusstfnsk8 1 year ago
He slipped over to Merce Cunningham's for KFC and Twinkies!
SweetSweetWaldo 1 year ago
Cage is great! And brilliant! And most of our diets suck--he's a genius in and out of the kitchen.
windstorm1000 1 year ago
I LOVE JOHN CAGE...HE IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME..LANDSCAPE IS A PIANO TRACK HE DID WICH TAKES ME 2 ANOTHER WORLD
spainoner 1 year ago
@ArtD42 You can't denounce music just because it's mainstream, but I don't really enjoy Miley Cyrus's "music" just from hearing it or see any amount of talent in it that makes it something special (autotune and mass-produced lyrics on a cheap beat, come on.) I never really could stand true mainstream music although I mostly grew up on classic popular music. I want to listen to Cage, Shoenburg, Xenakis, Stockhausen etc. every moment and there's nothing wrong with that.
AyumuVanguard 1 year ago
John Cage 4'33''
ETO5254 1 year ago
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.............I think John Cage sounds like ' The Brain ' from " Pinky and The Brain "
Lunatic187000 1 year ago
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I think John Cage sounds like ' The Brain ' from " Pinky and The Brain "
Lunatic187000 1 year ago
this must be where MysteryGuitarMan's got his inspiration from! ;-)
SeppHaslinger 1 year ago
DOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EbClectic 1 year ago
what the *hell* is he cooking? :/
fluffytom82 1 year ago
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LOL, that's exactly what i was wondering.... O___O
XGreyCrowX 1 year ago
His laugh at the end reminds me of The Joker..
DaBubba235 1 year ago 2
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So let me get this straight. John Cage builds himself a snack and you fools think he's composed a sonic masterpiece? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, etc., etc., etc.
fscarp 1 year ago 34
@fscarp lol. I love Cage but this comment made me seriously lol. Touche, friend, touche...
TotalitarianHypnosis 1 year ago
@fscarp lol... you're missing the point, it's not a musical masterpiece, it's deeper than that, it's questioning what music and masterpieces even are... don't take it too seriously!
eaglepies 10 months ago 4
@fscarp god, I wish I had his talent. My sonic masterpieces only include 2 minutes of microwave....
NevinJarek 10 months ago 3
@fscarp No.
aperionproject 10 months ago
@fscarp Your laugh is a sonic masterpiece ;-*
FloydIV 10 months ago 5
@fscarp I'm on neither side but surely those fools must have fantastic minds, beyond your comprehension. Surely it's beyond mine.
UnintentionalSwitch 8 months ago
@fscarp This comment is a joke right?
sebias2 8 months ago
@fscarp It all has to do with how you define music.
If you think that music is only what you hear on mtv and other mainstream musical sources then these are just plain sounds to you. Fair enough.
If, however, you perceive every single sound as music then it's a different story.
It's a matter of one's point of view. If now you want to be a jerk and play mr smart in youtube it shows perfectly how holistic and egotistic your view is.
NukeGenious 8 months ago
@NukeGenious Hey Jackass, who said anything about music. Read the comment a little more carefully, Mr. Smart.
fscarp 8 months ago
@fscarp Whether he composed it or not, the masterpiece is there.
goldencricket 8 months ago
@fscarp Maybe try closing your eyes and opening your ears.
Manwithcam 7 months ago
@fscarp Doesn't really matter if Cage does it or if you do it. It's not a question of if it's music or not - music is just the art of sound through time. The only reason Cage gets the fame for it is because he brought awareness to the idea of this concept of understanding sound.
pathsounds 6 months ago 2
creo que el arte se hace por necesidad no por que otros deban aceptarlos una de las características del arte es precisamente que no sirve para nada mas que para expresar y comunicar esa avalancha de sentimientos e ideas que llevamos dentro el arte no es dibujar bien o pinar bonito no es complacer al mundo es ante todo complacerte a ti mismo y ser honesto en lo que haces jamas podríamos comparar a cortazar o quizás a borges con la escritora de los libros de harry potter
levinard1 5 months ago
esta sin duda es mas famosa que los dos juntos y mas rica que dios pero hay una diferencia entre lo que es arte y lo que es popular.
levinard1 5 months ago
@fscarp I love John Cage and his pieces but I do not think they are masterpieces (masterpiece is subjective anyway)... They are just sounds - as he would say himself - I like listening to them, simple.
DamiaanVDW 4 months ago
@fscarp You must like Cypress Hill
notadeala 3 months ago
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SuperMikeyLive 3 months ago
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@fscarp It's actually nice to play along with. I usually accompany on the asparagus.
SuperMikeyLive 3 months ago
@fscarp nigga likes sounds, nigga
Ievolovel 3 months ago
@fscarp 2deep4u
BruisedEyeSockets 2 months ago
@BruisedEyeSockets Yes, I fear I may drown.
fscarp 2 months ago
I'm a fan of everybody from Cage to Schoenberg to Xenakis to Stokhausen, and yet, I may want to listen to a Miley Cyrus song more than a Cage composition, simply because I might feel it's more beautiful. Very often the opposite is the case - but it's useless to categorically denounce "mainstream" music because it doesn't follow some sort of intellectual viewpoint you agree with. If anything, Cage taught that ALL music can be beautiful, even Miley Cyrus.
ArtD42 1 year ago
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bly0912 1 year ago
hmm...65.700 aspirins....
phobikore 1 year ago 3
I like this song, alot better than Miley Cyrus and alot of the crap the kids listen to now
Gargantupimp 1 year ago 13
@Gargantupimp What's the need of mentioning that? Seriously shut the fuck up about shit music, you're not getting smarter, it's a given that that is shit, jesus.
P33N0 1 year ago
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Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@P33N0 I'm just trying to express my views on the decline in quality of popular music. Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, I am not advertising for them, I am stating that they are inadequate.
And if 'artists' today want to succeed in the music business, I would suggest they fashion themselves after this piece of wonderful music!
This is truly Fascinating and I believe every musician can learn from it.
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp That's not entirely true, popular music has always had a cringe-worthy side. And a beautiful strong one. The "problem" is that this generation are being brought up imagining quality can be found in the x factor and that all the good unknown singers audition to get their breaks. Ironically only the ones with no hope would consider auditioning in the first place...Nothing more than karaoke meets marketing, eugh...but hey, so much new music is still as good as it ever was once, surely
ofdarknessandlight 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp
alot of people (although i am not one of them)
feel very passionately, even obsessively about the music made by , lady gaga for example.
how can her say her music is bad - inadaquate - if it evokes that kind of feeling.
if the feelings of these people dont matter - dont count for anything - then whos do?
yours i suppose.
funnyfacerful 1 year ago
@Gargantupimp and I thumbed your comment up because I thought you were being ironic oh well
X66081 11 months ago
hay dos casos a considerar sobre john cage, uno es que se puede considerar un genio y otras (como en mi caso) un idiota demasiado pretensioso
mariano26788 1 year ago
it's so funny, seeing john cage, and then seeing the myriads of angry art snobs arguing over his music. he is one of the most laid back, happy people I've ever seen.
KaliumMusic 1 year ago 6
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john cage is a yo-yo. all you intellectuals are dumb enough to hear music when some nut drags a feather across a cactus. i listen to music that has soul. And by that, maybe I mean notes. i thik i mean more by that. this guy's music has no soul. I owuldn't call it music. I'm not a snob. I like music. I never went to college. But I got ears don't i?
HxHenry 1 year ago
His 'Sonatas & Interludes for Prepared Piano' has plenty of emotional power.
The man clearly will never be appreciated by all listeners,though,inspite of the fact that he is far more the anti-snob than any classical composers in his inclusiveness of even untrained 'musicians.'
thirdshift47 1 year ago
@thirdshift47 Why did you put untrained 'musicians' in quotes?
Proud2playitloud 1 year ago
@HxHenry I can respect you not enjoying or liking his music, but you do not need to insult people that do, nor those who find it interesting. Its also ignorant and unfair to say John Cage's work has no soul.
DarkZekeX 1 year ago
@HxHenry There are many ways to create Music or to define it! There is the melody based music, but there is is also the experimental music. People like John Cage like to produce music out of noises, sounds...
I think ur ignorant if u say this kind of music has no "soul". i mean what can have more soul or natur in it, than natural and not defined sounds like dragging a feather across a cactus.. etc.
sry not so good in english, dude!
oldlastz 1 year ago
@HxHenry I have been a musician all my life. When you play music, you don't play notes; you make sounds. Notes are written mnemonic devices to remind the musician what sounds to make. Traditional notation makes limited indication of what kind of sound is desired, for example a pitch and a relative length of time to make the sound. Other features such as articulations are also given. But there are many other features in sounds besides these. FYI, Cage does use notation, even if non-traditional.
DerangedRanger1 1 year ago 6
@DerangedRanger1 I agree, meloya are not required for muisx, and art music and anti-music excists too, music can be many on so many ways, and its subjective what ppls like. Some can actually prefer listening to Ambient-Noise art music and understand the melody(autist music development+) because peples can get used to different music if they heard it since early childhood, etc.
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
@MagnitudePerson I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. Can you clean up the spelling errors and form complete sentences please?
DerangedRanger1 1 year ago
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DeiNostri 1 year ago
@DerangedRanger1 Part 2 because of YT limitations; And its subjective, i personly hate poop(pop..corn) music because its(espsecially in the 21 century today...) not about the music just about the fucking artist and fashion, wtf. poop music isn't music...
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
Cleo, I've never found John Cage to be arrogant, not from what I've read or heard... in fact I would say the opposite would be true of him. I did, however, find your comment to be arrogant, arrogant and bitter actually. I'm saying this about the comment itself, and not you personally. This morning I listened to Couperin, then Hummel, then Cage and never felt any internal conflict. I say that just to make a point. Also, I really don't think Cage should be blamed for the professors you dislike.
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it should be called LOL XD 27 NOISES manufactured in the kitchen u.u thats not music or art u.u
fohd128 1 year ago
What a legend!!!! My friend met him once - apparently he was lovely.
m0thland 1 year ago 3
hey could you post the rest of this documentary the american masters one? its awesome and really well edited.
plutoohno 1 year ago 2
this is kind of like "proto-industrial" or something.
et6yEhzxexzhrz 1 year ago
Love this.
travelingvegetarian 1 year ago
I fucking love this guy.
ssbmmasterxyz 2 years ago 7
he's so funny. i love his laugh. i wish i could have met him.
andrew11235 2 years ago 4
ke nene!
johnxfango 2 years ago
This is what you call "absurd." Or a joke, etc...
broosetv 2 years ago
"fine doctors" lol
socrstreets 2 years ago
I think this video was shown in an art history class last yr. Now if I can only remember why someone help plz?
jscrewed 2 years ago
You watched it because your teacher likes to indulge in avant-garde hippie posturing.
cleomagoolando 2 years ago
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I Just wanna Say FFUCK JOHN CAGE!!! this piece of work is just crap...I think The beatles wrote better music than this ASSHOLE
brownjamesify 2 years ago
Well you don't have any issues, now, do you?
topologyrob 2 years ago
you could have at least shouted it *for real* in full bath
shicjkuli 2 years ago
wow. how ignorant.
Barcodeplane 2 years ago
amen!
piano12161770 2 years ago
when you're with friends you can have a potato. POTATO. BAHAHAHAHAHA.
JayLovesGerard 2 years ago
Mr. Cage, can you possibly recommend something for my back?
Marmalade000000 2 years ago
That's DR. Cage to you darling.....: )
sparkalot 2 years ago
At the end of his class, Daniel Brou agreed to write me a letter of recommendation. One year later, I mailed him a cv, statement of purpose, and description of my proposed dissertation. I never heard from him. I orignally mailed him one year later. I only found out recently--THREE YEARS LATER after I sent this material--that he had thrown all of this away and not sent me an email to inform me. He doesn't consider this behavior "unprofessional."
oracle12340 2 years ago
Alan psychedelic's breakfast
Esquizoide88 2 years ago
which diet is this?
bezmolvie 2 years ago
it was a joke
TheScooterHouse 2 years ago
well john cage is such a musical genious that I thought he doesnt even joke. i really want to get thin like him so i can be a genious as well and write such profound music that is almost as good as blink 182...
mcnekit 2 years ago
The only music that is better than this is Mozart.
organman52 2 years ago
como me gustaria que estubiera subtitulado
jorsitoh 2 years ago
Dice que está siguiendo una dieta macrobiotica, gracias a John Lennon y Yoko Ono, que consiste en sustituir las grasas animales por vegetales, que antes su muñeca era mucho más gorda, que hace nueve años era incapaz de levantar la taza, que solía tomar 12 aspirinas al día durante 15 años y que tras una semana de dieta ya no las necesitaba y que alguien que se llama Shisuko le dijo que no había que tomar la dieta tan en serio; le dijo: "cuando estés con amigos puedes comer una patata!"
arneperschel 2 years ago
who said that funny potato comment to him
jamesaellis 2 years ago
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this was interesting for about 9 seconds ............find me better entertainment
johnartmaster 2 years ago
That was amazing.
Patricka0a01 2 years ago
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cage is a prick
MoroJesha 2 years ago
I love this man!
melodiatune 2 years ago 32
Interesting and amusing.
wisteela 2 years ago 3
when your with friends,you can have a patato........Boooooooooooooohhhhhh!!!!!!1
Whit3King 3 years ago 3
"when your with friends,you can have a patato........Booooooooooooooh hhhhh!!!!!!1"
don't you mean Kakow!!!!
CharlesDingus 2 years ago
does anyone know what he is cooking?
trinkijankapoka 3 years ago
A potatoe! Kakow!
brain1012 2 years ago
When this was recorded? I think that Pink Floyd were under this influence when they tried to record an album without instruments - ``Household Objects`` in 1974. I think they gave up after just 2 tracks finished.
vokshumana 3 years ago
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wtf? gay?
koolaidjohnson5 3 years ago
Yes. What's it to you? Check out Wikipedia.
jdbs1978 3 years ago
"When you're with friends, you could have a potato" :)
twistontheclassic 3 years ago 55
@twistontheclassic is there any "deeper meaning" in this sentence? If so, I don't get it
mcr89x 11 months ago
@mcr89x adhd much?....he says it at the end!
xxxslayerxxx666 10 months ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 I know he says it at the end. I just want to know, what he wants to say by that, why he laughes at the end, and why the comment that repeats the sentence has so many positive ratings. I just get nothing out of the sentence. Has nothing to do with adhd.
mcr89x 10 months ago
@mcr89x what he means by it is that when he is around his friends he is allowed to induldge, and since potato's are fattening he's allowed to eat one.....the joke is just that potato's are viewed as healthy food compared to the foods most of us would eat if we wanted to induldge.....that's not complicated one bit, unless you have adhd.
xxxslayerxxx666 10 months ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 stop that shit with adhd ;) Thanks though.
mcr89x 10 months ago
@mcr89x no, freedom of speech :D thank you!
xxxslayerxxx666 10 months ago
Macrobtiotics works for me like nothing else ever has. So nice to discover this vid.
graywarrior 3 years ago
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John Cage is a crazy fuck! he knows nothing about music!
picapin 3 years ago
he knows everything about music
DarkAndMartyr 3 years ago 7
He knows more of it then you probly do.
lobzunpreston 3 years ago 2
you are probably wrong!
picapin 3 years ago
Ok cool. If you don't like it then don't watch his videos..
lobzunpreston 3 years ago
you're a clever one...
picapin 3 years ago
Really? That means alot coming from the god of music himself.
lobzunpreston 3 years ago
John Cage is a genious..You're an ignorant little bastard who knows nothing.
MisterNicholasGuitar 3 years ago 5
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you and john cage can kiss my arse!
picapin 3 years ago
Only if you put peanut butter on it.
MisterNicholasGuitar 3 years ago 5
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you can count on it!
And that guy John Cage needs a hair cut!
picapin 3 years ago
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you need castration, redneck!
budalo 3 years ago
when was this video made??
PortOut 3 years ago
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i hope this man died painfully, and all his kids saw it, and then they caught fire and all their nerves melted, and they're all in hell being fucked by wizard demons or some shit w/ huge cocks. the man is a crackpot bullshit lazy muthafucka!
beatlesfan2788 3 years ago
A new study says eating only vegetables and no meat decreases the size of brains.
dingorex 3 years ago
I must have an extremely small brain then.
Twig6 3 years ago
is this study on the internet?
johnnycorvo 3 years ago 2
It was at Oxford and the test group was small as I recall, only 110 in the study.
I think the article cites vitamin deficiency as the cause.
Do a google search and it pulls it up as being released this month.
dingorex 3 years ago
A lot of vegetarians don't get the necessary vitamins, but it isn't impossible.
Of course, brains are made largely of fat.
ycz13 3 years ago
It's not vegetarianism that decreases the size of the brain. It's the lack of the vitamin B12. You're not necessarily in lack of it if you refuse to eat meat or fish.
godsuckscocks 3 years ago 3
You cook in Pam now, John?
spottedliver 3 years ago
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what a load of bollocks
ThePukingExperience 3 years ago
I'd like to be in his kitchen. The music at the begining would have been fun to be part of.
This reminds of John & Yoko's Two Virgins. Maybe because he talked about them I guess.
VomitSelf7 3 years ago
Oh well - I also cook my own meals...
keeskogel3291 3 years ago
lol
HomoSapiensSUCK 3 years ago
whats the diet called
jamesaellis 3 years ago
so, wasn't 4'33'' just the duration of the first performace? can't it last any length of time? and how was that duration arrived at?
whatthecello42 3 years ago
4'33'' has to be 4'33'', however it is in 3 movements and a break can be taken between movements which is not included in the total time.
0'00'' is Cage's revision of 4'33''. 0'00'' can be played by any one / thing in any way! 0'00'' can be as long or as short as you like.
steakmonster 3 years ago
Read The China Study
bariswheel 3 years ago
"When you're with friends, you can have a patato" haha.
Waranoa 4 years ago 5
@Waranoa: I say potaytoes, you say potattos...Potaytoes, potattos, tomaytoes, tomattos...
keeskogel3291 3 years ago
I don't understand what you're saying. If you're refering to my spelling mistake, I could illuminate it by saying that in my regional dialect of Dutch, a potato is called a 'patat'. (the common Dutch word for potato is 'aardappel', which means 'earth-apple', or as the French call it: 'pomme de tèrre' (although I'm not sure about the accent on the 'e' there). It remains funny nonetheless.
Waranoa 3 years ago
Don't you know Louis Armstrong's song? At least I believe it's Louis Armstrong...
48montblanc07 3 years ago
Oh sorry no I don't. I thought you we're making a silly joke. There's so much music I don't know, It's impossible to know everything. I know some music by Louis Armstrong but not that particular song :)
Waranoa 3 years ago
It's Gershwin's song, I think.
MYNOSEISFULLOFSNOT 3 years ago
let's call the whole thing of... I say eether and you say either XD.
christian6657 3 years ago
12 asprin a day for 15 years
this man had a problem
also I dont think he had to pay his bills with earnings from music.
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LetMeDrownInMyBooze 4 years ago
aple..haven..you understand NOTHING
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WiseWordsAboutSpam 4 years ago
to my ears he is as beckett to theatre. his writings have some of the most elegant sentences of the 20th century. he writes extensively about the virtues of emptyheadedness...i think fans ruin pretty much everything [religion, art, bands...] and i think its wrong to judge cage by some of the things that people have done after him. he was an excellent man with an excellent mind and our world is poorer for his absence. although he would probably say it is no poorer.
ivegoneswimming 4 years ago
I agree with you that the fans are the most ruinous part of the John Cage phenomena, but like Beckett, some of Cage's works reek of artistic decadence and would have been better off left on the drawing board instead of thrown out into the public where they would inevitably be bloated and immaturely perceived. In a dumb intellectual society's hands, Cage's works have had a damaging effect on any composer who dares to use old-fashioned concepts like notes, counterpoint and rhythm.
cleomagoolando 4 years ago
i really dont know that many composers are anything other than positively influenced by him - expanding the parameters of available sound-production. i dont think his music is decadent either - if anything it tends towards stoicism or asceticism...mind you i dont know what decadence means - i think it has something to do with just hanging around not doing all that much and cage worked extremely hard right up until his death at 79.
ivegoneswimming 4 years ago
personally i think schoenberg was far worse for music than cage. a musicircus is a joyous event but serialism rapidly implodes up its own behind.
ivegoneswimming 4 years ago
Do you mean (about serialism) that it is a "dead end" or too restrictive or something like that?
iwanttowatchsomethin 4 years ago
The only thing bad about Schoenberg's influence, as with Cage, are people who take the ideas of serialism too seriously. Time has told, though, and the post-Schoenberg composers are probably the only ones in the music world who have anything left to say. The post-Cage bullshitters are following the example of a nihilistic and self-effacing decadent who would rather say fuck off to learning counterpoint, harmony, etc.. effectively rendered their own role obsolete and unnecessary. Brilliant :-|
cleomagoolando 2 years ago
Of course, most of the post-Schoenberg composers had simply used 12-tone writing as a springboard and ones who are still doing it never use it any sort of crutch. Many of them also have the decency to respect music as a discipline with a rich history, instead of turning it into a plaything or a joke. Because of Cage's crap, our newest generation of composition students seems to be able to get away with never developing any true musical discipline, since apparently everything is now valid.
cleomagoolando 2 years ago
This is pretty true. Since Shoenberg took tonality and music as far as it could go, we kind of hit a road block. At a music school, you still learn counterpoint and harmony, but it's with a grain of salt. Though, this has become what it is through a couple hundred years, not just after shoenberg/cage. Beethoven, who brought new ideas did not have much schooling. Being able to think outside the box helps, and these days we only have one foot in. If that makes any sense....
Heifsin85 2 years ago
I have a problem with shitty music professors (and there are many of these) who get on with pressing Cageian agendas on their composition students at the expense of using a traditional approach and developing traditional disciplines. Could you imagine how well a mathematician functioned if they only studied mathematical ideas from the 1950s forward. People can create whatever sort of art they want. Adopting some arrogant Cageian mindset just gives a blank check to charlatans everywhere.
cleomagoolando 2 years ago 3
that's your problem then. have fun with that
waywardhighfive 2 years ago