@TimothyLionphoenix I think he asked for the bows used in the 9th century. And they were definitely not 40lbs strong ;) 40lbs: it's good for women. An average hungarian bow's strength was much higher than 40! Around 80 lbs. Some historians think they were even stronger :D my sister can draw a 40 lbs strong bow :D
Look. NO ONE knows! The Hungarians gave a shit how many # the bows have. The question was, can I use it on horseback in full galop for fast and aimed shooting, shooting backward, or not. In the 9th century we had NO infantry. Everyone was sitting on a horse. Thats why we was the fastest and we could win with 5000 man to 10-12000. The draw lenght is the key, not the poundage. 80lbs or higher is deffinitiv not good for it. Cunning, speed and accuracy was important.
No one knows. What we know today, fighting from horseback, giving aimed shots forward and backward, doing this every 1,5 - 4 seconds, with a high poundage bow is not really effective. Doing this 10 minutes is ok, but all day in a fight? Foot troops can shoot high poundage, but move on foot make an army slow. Hungarians moved very fast, that means they was horseback fighter. But the exactly no one knows how much power their bows had. No scripts about that. we can only estimate.
Yes, there were some very strong bows, but using strong bows like this in a battle makes no sense, i think. We con only estimate and reconstruction. I am an archer too, and i think, those archer who was able to shoot arrows every 1,5 - 3 sec. (aimed till 100 meters), those not had more than 80-100 pounds. On horseback less than that. remember a battle gone not only a few hours.
Egy a baj hogy e szép nemzetet=9 a Magyart a tetves zsidók szétlopták és most az itt maradt őslakosokkal is el akarnak bánni=)deviza hitel=)cigányság.
1st i love how alot of you guys got into the spirit of things, setting up the yurt etc, but whats causing that strange zipping noise when the man shoots on his own half way along.
@JaKeth3snake Those bows are most likely tuned for target use only, and the shooters in this video are youths. The war bows have much higher poundage, up to 130 pounds draw weight. I use a Mongol bow which I crafted from spring steel stock and it has over 100 pounds of draw. Rode in on a herd of buffalo in Oklahoma, went for a medium weight bull and fired a broadhead which killed it instantly, humane, ethical shot. I carried my .45 revolver just in case but did not even need to fire it.
@JaKeth3snake I am a Chinese- Mongol who grew up in the USA. I have been into hunting, archery and shooting since I was little. I study combat arts, weapons, and military history. I am probably not the best archer in the world but last year I used my same Mongol bow to outshoot a fella' with a 5.56mm AR-15 at a 300 yard pie-plate target haha. He never looks at rifles the same now, I actually got him interested into archery :)
@Anekantavad Probably the real ones from the roman times was hard. They had much more range too, and higher firing power. In this video these ones are only cheap replicates of the original ones, so they have short range, weak impact power, and easy to draw. These are just training bows.
because these inverse bows are originally from central asia and those people has Kipchak routes, you can say it by the yurt they are coming out from at the beginning
I have a hard time believing that this is somewhat of a traditional or historical hungarian style of clothing.
It can't be.
When I think of hungarian, the first thing that comes to my mind are the heavy knights of medieval kingdom of Hungary, and the hussar-type of cavalry of the modern period.
I mean, the bows can be identical. Hell, the hun type bow was used by the western and eastern roman empire by various occasions, so it could be that the hungarians adopted it from them. But the clothes?
@azmhyr If you're not Hungarian or at least familiar with their history, then what you think of isn't worth much. Do you think knights wore armour 24/7? They didn't even shoot bows. Traditional costumes are what the regular people wore.
Luurowns - Igaz, de mi lövünk mindennel, ami kicsit is feszíthető. Mutatok neked olyan srácot itt az egyesületben, aki saját maga csinálja a saját íjait - egyszerű tiszafából. A másik laprugóból faragta - és országos bajnok lett vele. A törökök meg tőlünk tanulták az íjászatot. Ilyen egyszerű. (Lusta vagyok angolul írni, különben is, Google your friend, and can translate too!) F..szom, ánglikus köcsögök. (Utalás az Óvakodj a törpétől egy jelenetére)
@acsimsek hungary was once ruled by the Huns, who were direct descendants of a nomadic nation called Xiongnu. The Xiongnu was once a threat to Han China, but then it later split into two groups after 2 BC: the Huns to the west and Mongolians to the east
Because this is Cuman Turkish culture who got assimilated either willingly or by force in Hungary. Search "Cumans" and "Codex Cumanicus" in Wikipedia to learn some stuff about them.
in the 3-4 centuries Hun empire (Which is a turkish empire) moved to europe and qonquered till roma, Kings name is attila or atilla the hun, Hungarians came from that Hun Empire.
@ARICI1517 That is absolute nonsense, Hungarians have nothing to do with the Huns. That's a mere phantasy of sick Hungarian minds. Magyars are descendants of seven tribes mostly of Turko-Tartar origin, one of the tribes was a mixture of Arabs and Jews. And those tribes formed somewhere in Kazachstan sometime in the 7-8th centuries.
@luurowns theres not really a great difference between huns and turks. they all come from central asia. clothes, equpments, even their tent making are similar. and they had same army tactics and dicipline... since 209 B.C.
This is from the web site of Csaba Grózer bowmaker:
The core of the bow is joined together of assorted kinds of wood (F.ex: birch, or yew - by me). The inside (that is on the archer's side) is made of horn plating. The outside is made of tendon strings and fishbladder-glue, layered and shrunk onto the bow.
most of the bows in this video are of horn/sinew composite and very flexible and are made to be very compact so to be used on horseback (very useful in the bush too)
@monukv that's who perfected the art of mounted archery centuries ago. The mounted archers of mongolia is why the great wall of china was built. Crazy effective in combat.
I'm surprised at the woman's stupidity, and also at the archers - very surprised nobody stopped shooting or questioned it or while she walked behind the targets. They should also have known better.
It was discussed several times, that it is not visiblie on the video, that the pathway she walks on, turns away, so that she do not walks behind the targets!
@themurkar Relax, buddy. You're a safety-obsessed North American. Which is good, because North Americans are mostly idiots. This is Europe. Loosen up.
@NoisemakerArrow And they're all North Americans getting hurt, because we're all idiots here right? We're not all gun-toting morons over here; just some. No need to start throwing around stereotypes. I'm Canadian by the way, we have the same opinion of Americans that the rest of the world shares (although for some reason we get lumped together as one).
@NoisemakerArrow But not nearly as judgmental and bigoted as some Europeans, you've made apparent. Don't bother replying...this ignorant conversation has ended.
so, no one is going to point out that the woman at the end of the video is taking her life into her hands? she's walking right behind the target, and although i don't doubt the archers accuracy, come on!
As you can see when they hold their bow, their arm is slightly bent outwards, they don't hold their arm straight out as you do when shooting longbows or recurves.
Du er fra Sverige, sant? Da kan vi kommunikere på norsk også, som jeg snakker litt i gran.
I begynnelsen ungarere skjytte fra hesten, men i senere mitelalteren, det vil si i 15-16 tallet de hadde også gående bowmen, som ikke ridde på hesten og kanskje i begynnelsen også.
we call this house "jurta". we are "magyar" people and there are "madjars" in kazakhstan - brothers and sisters of ours. google "kurultaj", it is an annual meeting of the magyar people from all around the world.
lol didnt the english longbow penetrate french plate armor during the 100 year war in the 1400s? Cant really compare the two bows there 100s of years apart LOL. also is the mongol bow the same as the hun cause the mongol bow was known to go through european chainmail.
by the way, turks and maygars come frome the same roots!! magyars and turks has in the past the same culture, the same war tactics, and the same weapons!!
this bow, is typical bow from the central asia, its not turk or magyar, this bow is CENTRAL ASIAN BOW!! turks and magyars are borthers. bloodbrothers!!
There was a documentary on the Ottoman bow, that it was the fastest of all bows. Very similiar to Hungarian bow I think. After all, both are descendants of the Hunnic tribes.
ppl say that hungarian, huns and the likes came from the Ural mountains, even tho, i believe, noone ever found traces of human life in the Ural... I'd say that Turanian people came from central-eastern Asia to eastern Europe, but I dont think they lived in the Ural mountains. Correct me if I'm wron, I'm not entirely sure.
Awesome video bye the way, I've just started taking Baranta lessons, I love it!
i do not know any particular city there. but roots comes from somewhere over there. anyways, turks and magyars come from the same root. we should be able to leave aside the religion and cooperate. i want to see a stronger hunagry.
There are several different types of bows on this vid. May ybe we can call some or one of them ottoman bow, but thee is at least one tukish bow, that was used int the 13-16 century; there is a middle avarish bow on the vid, that was used in the 5-6 century, probably more, and I gess some of the magyars had alsothe same type. An there is one magyar bow o in this vid, which looks ebsolutely like hungarian bows that were found in old hungarian tombs.
hungarians were around for more than 5000 years that is why hungarian is one of the oldest languages in europe , we may of not lived in europe but , around the urals and siberia most likely
the "Turk" name appeared in 546 AD, the Hungarian "Magyar" name in 527 AD. so no one is more older than the other (in the matter of fact, we are a little older than you). believe me I know this because I have my PH in this! and do not insult Hungarians! they are keeping alive this tradition, you just talking but you do not do anything to keep it alive!
Depends what qualities you're looking for. Longbows are better for the Northern European climate and have better range (and carry their power better over longer ranges), but composite have greater power at closer ranges and are much easier to handle. Take your pick.
I don't know about Longbows, but with our Magyar Reflex-bows, Magyars in the 9th-10th century were able to perform aimed shots at 500 metres, and i think the maximum distance at wich it could kill was 800 metres
I'm not sure about that, but that's what i learned at school, and my History teacher knows this stuff pretty good... I'm too lazy, but if you want you can do some research on it... If you do let me know :D thx
These bows were used way before 900's, how about the english-welsh longbows? I'd say around 1100-1200, but I'm not sure, and these magyar bows were feared across europe at the time :D Dotn get me wrong, english longbows are a marvel too, but I prefer magyar
cserkesztaborban volt utoljara a kezemben eredeti magyar ij, de az felejthetlen volt asszem ha joll emlekszem 32 vagy tobb fontos volt szoval rendesen megszenvedtunk vele. Jo a vidi
Nem az Ural mögötti területekről jöttek a magyarok errefelé, valahonnan ázsiai irányból? A kettős honfoglalás elmélete ma is létező. Tényleg elég gyorsan történt a letelepedés, mégha sokáig meg is maradtak a nomád életforma elemei. A magyarok különböző törzsek szövetségeként érkeztek ide, nem?
A Kárpát medencében pedig tényleg nem egy egységes nemzettel találták szemben magukat, hanem kisebb közösségekkel, nem? Akiket nem egyszerűen leigáztak - beolvadtak. Mi tudok rosszul?
Yes! That time people from the East had quite the similar clothing. And some here in Hungary say, that huns and hungarians have the same origin of their nation. It was taken as fact through almost our whole history. Some say, and I can accept it: Hungarians came to their home two times: First together with the huns.
i thought the huns are from like kazakstan and mongolia? hungarians are more like serbians originally i thought, but they intermixed with central asian huns. and than after they took it over they named it hungaria.
Hungarians came from the place behind URAL mountain - actually more or less the same path than the huns. We call ourselves "magyar", becouse the old hungarian nation was a gathering of several small nations holding together, and the strongest was the "magyar" nation. They came here from the far east, from somewhere in Asia. They were nomads, so they did not have a specified "home-land". At least not the way we talk about "homelands" today. But serbians are an absolutely different nation.
It doesn't matter where Serbia nowadays is on the map. 1100 years ago, when hungarians came to this place, there was no serbia at all. There were very small nations lived here quite separately from eachother. When hungarians came to this place these very small nations inmixed themselves into hungarians. So they were not wiped out, or killed by the hungarians, but involved or sg like that. Look further!
The whole process was very fast, and some scientists say it was becouse when hungarians came here there were "old" hungarians already from the previous incoming - a few hundred years before. Hungarians have found not only unknown nations here. That's why they managed to transform their nomad life-form to a kind of feudalist life-form, or pick the new life-form up that fast.
@heMileniumFalcon thanks :)
shadowfury01 3 months ago
Do Hungarians have these "gers" same as Mongolians? That's pretty neat.
MyNomin 4 months ago
@MyNomin
Maybe not the same, but similar, yes.
Thommys111 2 months ago
@thekabar44 thanks :p
shadowfury01 4 months ago
@gotrian1 its called a ger like a round house/tipi
fenwick101e 4 months ago
what is the power of the hungarian bow?
shadowfury01 4 months ago
@shadowfury01
I think that is around 40 lbs. All the bows that were shot by adults were around 40 lbs.
TimothyLionphoenix 4 months ago
@TimothyLionphoenix I think he asked for the bows used in the 9th century. And they were definitely not 40lbs strong ;) 40lbs: it's good for women. An average hungarian bow's strength was much higher than 40! Around 80 lbs. Some historians think they were even stronger :D my sister can draw a 40 lbs strong bow :D
TheKabar44 4 months ago
@TheKabar44
Look. NO ONE knows! The Hungarians gave a shit how many # the bows have. The question was, can I use it on horseback in full galop for fast and aimed shooting, shooting backward, or not. In the 9th century we had NO infantry. Everyone was sitting on a horse. Thats why we was the fastest and we could win with 5000 man to 10-12000. The draw lenght is the key, not the poundage. 80lbs or higher is deffinitiv not good for it. Cunning, speed and accuracy was important.
Thommys111 2 months ago
speed, 1 minit 20 precizion shoot
watch that youtube.com/watch?v=EOWeU9R1vBs&feature=related
TheMileniumFalcon 3 months ago
@shadowfury01
No one knows. What we know today, fighting from horseback, giving aimed shots forward and backward, doing this every 1,5 - 4 seconds, with a high poundage bow is not really effective. Doing this 10 minutes is ok, but all day in a fight? Foot troops can shoot high poundage, but move on foot make an army slow. Hungarians moved very fast, that means they was horseback fighter. But the exactly no one knows how much power their bows had. No scripts about that. we can only estimate.
Thommys111 2 months ago
@Thommys111 well they found a story written on a stone telling about a guy shooting down hees targeth from 500meters !!
GabrielTheViking 1 month ago
@GabrielTheViking
Yes, there were some very strong bows, but using strong bows like this in a battle makes no sense, i think. We con only estimate and reconstruction. I am an archer too, and i think, those archer who was able to shoot arrows every 1,5 - 3 sec. (aimed till 100 meters), those not had more than 80-100 pounds. On horseback less than that. remember a battle gone not only a few hours.
Thommys111 1 month ago
@Thommys111 they actually had two bows one on arround 80 lbs for close range, and one on about 160lbs for long range
GabrielTheViking 1 month ago
@GabrielTheViking
Ok. What is the evidence for your assertion? Because not one complete bow was found ever.
Thommys111 1 month ago
Egy a baj hogy e szép nemzetet=9 a Magyart a tetves zsidók szétlopták és most az itt maradt őslakosokkal is el akarnak bánni=)deviza hitel=)cigányság.
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1hunhun 7 months ago
HUN = TURK ...
PrensHaru 7 months ago
This is old Bulgarien composit bow. Hungarian are cousins of Bulgarian Bal-kan and Bal-a - ton have samo word - bal which means-BIG.
dodoclan 8 months ago
1st i love how alot of you guys got into the spirit of things, setting up the yurt etc, but whats causing that strange zipping noise when the man shoots on his own half way along.
elgostine 8 months ago
waitt aren't these mongolian people with their famous mongol bows..??
buddoyr 8 months ago
@buddoyr they are Hungerian. so Pretty much they are related to Turks, because both of the Hun's desents.
TheOguze 6 months ago
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LOL !
0:02 is a TURKIC YURT and the guys look SO turkic its incredible...
LONG LIVE THE TURKIC TURAN !!!
321illusion 8 months ago
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321illusion 8 months ago
The real origin of these bows come from mongolia.
love2understand 8 months ago
@MrBullshittliar
they isn't mongol, they wearing ancient hungarian clothes. They are magyars.
MsBackpackman 9 months ago
The Hungarian army...
DeePictures1 9 months ago
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felattila 9 months ago
nice mongol warriors!
AttilaMongolGarda88 10 months ago
A sagittis Hungarorum, libera nos Domine :)
970ronaldo 10 months ago
the bows are actually Turkish Made
BayatTurkmen 11 months ago
hunGAYrians=mongols from asia
razvan1928 11 months ago
@razvan1928 another romanian kid, love you people
imsoeevil 8 months ago
what is the average pull back on these types of bows. i just bought a new 50lbs recurve realy do like it.
eagle0924 11 months ago
That is some awesome shooting keep up the good work,
blackfeatherarchery 1 year ago
The poundage on those bows doesn't look like it could pierce mail
JaKeth3snake 1 year ago
@JaKeth3snake Those bows are most likely tuned for target use only, and the shooters in this video are youths. The war bows have much higher poundage, up to 130 pounds draw weight. I use a Mongol bow which I crafted from spring steel stock and it has over 100 pounds of draw. Rode in on a herd of buffalo in Oklahoma, went for a medium weight bull and fired a broadhead which killed it instantly, humane, ethical shot. I carried my .45 revolver just in case but did not even need to fire it.
Rachen30 9 months ago
@Rachen30 You sound like an interesting person. If you don't mind me asking, are you native?
JaKeth3snake 9 months ago
@JaKeth3snake I am a Chinese- Mongol who grew up in the USA. I have been into hunting, archery and shooting since I was little. I study combat arts, weapons, and military history. I am probably not the best archer in the world but last year I used my same Mongol bow to outshoot a fella' with a 5.56mm AR-15 at a 300 yard pie-plate target haha. He never looks at rifles the same now, I actually got him interested into archery :)
Rachen30 9 months ago
anybody who wears an arm guard isn't an archer. They are shooting wrong
Scurge237 1 year ago
I always thought that the composite bow was an extremely difficult draw. When I see young girls manage it, I imagine that it really isn't so :-)
Thanks for posting.
Anekantavad 1 year ago
@Anekantavad Probably the real ones from the roman times was hard. They had much more range too, and higher firing power. In this video these ones are only cheap replicates of the original ones, so they have short range, weak impact power, and easy to draw. These are just training bows.
FODOR00 1 year ago
@Anekantavad If it's got a low draw weight, why would it be hard?
NoisemakerArrow 1 year ago
from mongol!
jacqueskim 1 year ago
cool video i just got a bow like this for christmas its awsome
spetsnazjon14 1 year ago
Turkish Archers
canimkizimbicik 1 year ago
@canimkizimbicik
Bullshit this is ancient hungarian bows. Turkish archers is turkish arches this not this
MsBackpackman 9 months ago
Long live Turan !
IdelUralState 1 year ago
long live turania
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tengrizm 1 year ago
i love bows and arrows
taalibabdurrahim 1 year ago
The guy with glasses is my favorite! :DDD
gyulap01 1 year ago
because these inverse bows are originally from central asia and those people has Kipchak routes, you can say it by the yurt they are coming out from at the beginning
tyma111 1 year ago
watch out these guys have hunnic blood they know how to work a bow and arrow even on horse back hahaha.
beatthecrowd001 1 year ago
I have a hard time believing that this is somewhat of a traditional or historical hungarian style of clothing.
It can't be.
When I think of hungarian, the first thing that comes to my mind are the heavy knights of medieval kingdom of Hungary, and the hussar-type of cavalry of the modern period.
I mean, the bows can be identical. Hell, the hun type bow was used by the western and eastern roman empire by various occasions, so it could be that the hungarians adopted it from them. But the clothes?
azmhyr 1 year ago
@azmhyr If you're not Hungarian or at least familiar with their history, then what you think of isn't worth much. Do you think knights wore armour 24/7? They didn't even shoot bows. Traditional costumes are what the regular people wore.
NoisemakerArrow 1 year ago
why is someone walking behind the targets?!! how dangerous!
ftcolorado 1 year ago
I love that trusting woman at 1:23 about to walk behind the targets! :D
Simlatio 1 year ago
egyetértek :P
motig92 1 year ago
Luurowns - Igaz, de mi lövünk mindennel, ami kicsit is feszíthető. Mutatok neked olyan srácot itt az egyesületben, aki saját maga csinálja a saját íjait - egyszerű tiszafából. A másik laprugóból faragta - és országos bajnok lett vele. A törökök meg tőlünk tanulták az íjászatot. Ilyen egyszerű. (Lusta vagyok angolul írni, különben is, Google your friend, and can translate too!) F..szom, ánglikus köcsögök. (Utalás az Óvakodj a törpétől egy jelenetére)
Oldm4nHUN 2 years ago
OMG!!
their outfit look so much like turkic people in central asia and what i saw was literally a yurt !!
and the bows, they are ottoman bows, i couldn't believe my eyes!!
they must be turkic origin
acsimsek 2 years ago
Yeah huge portions of eastern Europe descends from central Asia
032125 1 year ago
@acsimsek hungary was once ruled by the Huns, who were direct descendants of a nomadic nation called Xiongnu. The Xiongnu was once a threat to Han China, but then it later split into two groups after 2 BC: the Huns to the west and Mongolians to the east
asdfasdf8904 1 year ago
@acsimsek
Because this is Cuman Turkish culture who got assimilated either willingly or by force in Hungary. Search "Cumans" and "Codex Cumanicus" in Wikipedia to learn some stuff about them.
mail2onur 1 year ago
if these are all hungarian gyes, why does 1 of them has a turkish bow? ^^
luurowns 2 years ago
Becouse in the middle ages (16th century)archers used surely long bows, and turkish type bowes as well in Hungary!
bjdhgj 2 years ago 12
@bjdhgj
Also because of the battle in Eger, we kinda jacked some of the Turks weapons after we sent'em packing thanks to Gergely! haha
MrBagoly14 1 year ago
@bjdhgj NO
in the 3-4 centuries Hun empire (Which is a turkish empire) moved to europe and qonquered till roma, Kings name is attila or atilla the hun, Hungarians came from that Hun Empire.
ARICI1517 1 year ago
@ARICI1517 what is the difference from huns and mongo they have the same bows and almost same clothes and many things are similar?
ilikesuzuki 10 months ago
@ARICI1517 That is absolute nonsense, Hungarians have nothing to do with the Huns. That's a mere phantasy of sick Hungarian minds. Magyars are descendants of seven tribes mostly of Turko-Tartar origin, one of the tribes was a mixture of Arabs and Jews. And those tribes formed somewhere in Kazachstan sometime in the 7-8th centuries.
Panakeje 10 months ago
@luurowns
Még ha azt te tudnád, Norvég cimborám, hogy a Törökök itt voltak ám Magyarországon egy ideig
sujoms 1 year ago
@luurowns Simply because Magyars are of Turko-Tartar origin.
Panakeje 10 months ago
@luurowns Turkish bow...llol..... perhaps you should ask why the ottoman Turks used MONGOL bows. The Turks copied the Mongol technology
good2goskee 9 months ago
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gagalmg 9 months ago
@luurowns
because his mama made love to a Turkish dude
gagalmg 9 months ago
@luurowns theres not really a great difference between huns and turks. they all come from central asia. clothes, equpments, even their tent making are similar. and they had same army tactics and dicipline... since 209 B.C.
karteorhan 8 months ago
@luurowns turks and hungarians are related...did you ever heard about the Hun-Turks
milliyetgee 7 months ago
Greeting to all Hungarian brothers from Turks...
Aybarsli 2 years ago
Nice yurt. Good archery. Stupid woman. ;-)
Syrinx69 2 years ago
what in the world type of wood did they make it out of that the limbs can be almost parallel at full draw and not break
hitshitthefan 2 years ago
This is from the web site of Csaba Grózer bowmaker:
The core of the bow is joined together of assorted kinds of wood (F.ex: birch, or yew - by me). The inside (that is on the archer's side) is made of horn plating. The outside is made of tendon strings and fishbladder-glue, layered and shrunk onto the bow.
bjdhgj 2 years ago
nice thats amazing wonder how long it took em to get it right
hitshitthefan 2 years ago 2
@hitshitthefan
Because it is composit.. not one peace of limb or wood...
lofaszt 2 years ago
most of the bows in this video are of horn/sinew composite and very flexible and are made to be very compact so to be used on horseback (very useful in the bush too)
thompsonsrock 2 years ago
@thompsonsrock
why they dress similar to mongols?
monukv 1 year ago
@monukv that's who perfected the art of mounted archery centuries ago. The mounted archers of mongolia is why the great wall of china was built. Crazy effective in combat.
thompsonsrock 1 year ago
I'm surprised at the woman's stupidity, and also at the archers - very surprised nobody stopped shooting or questioned it or while she walked behind the targets. They should also have known better.
themurkar 2 years ago
It was discussed several times, that it is not visiblie on the video, that the pathway she walks on, turns away, so that she do not walks behind the targets!
bjdhgj 2 years ago
@themurkar Relax, buddy. You're a safety-obsessed North American. Which is good, because North Americans are mostly idiots. This is Europe. Loosen up.
NoisemakerArrow 1 year ago
@NoisemakerArrow More than a little uncalled for, don't you think?
themurkar 1 year ago
@themurkar Not really, no. Every day I hear of another idiot getting himself hurt and then suing.
NoisemakerArrow 1 year ago
@NoisemakerArrow And they're all North Americans getting hurt, because we're all idiots here right? We're not all gun-toting morons over here; just some. No need to start throwing around stereotypes. I'm Canadian by the way, we have the same opinion of Americans that the rest of the world shares (although for some reason we get lumped together as one).
themurkar 1 year ago
@themurkar Well, it's the ones that don't have guns that are morons. You get lumped together because you're equally fat, stupid and useless.
NoisemakerArrow 1 year ago
@NoisemakerArrow But not nearly as judgmental and bigoted as some Europeans, you've made apparent. Don't bother replying...this ignorant conversation has ended.
themurkar 1 year ago
were can i found a hungarian or a mongol bow in a international site (true site, not fake)?
FranciscoSRO2 2 years ago
1:28 heh looks like a porcupine lol
lifedragon3 2 years ago
very brave woman at the end
rhinenio 2 years ago 14
Sorry for pointing this out, but I find it rather strange that none of you are shooting with thumb rings, as they did back then.
TYKKETYKKE 2 years ago
i was about to say the exact same thing.
MrStickbow 2 years ago
they were made over 5,000 years ago with bronze tools
5tonyvvvv 2 years ago
so, no one is going to point out that the woman at the end of the video is taking her life into her hands? she's walking right behind the target, and although i don't doubt the archers accuracy, come on!
Seoch 2 years ago
Hajrá Magyarok!
gabornagy25 2 years ago 4
Magyarország és Törökország ! Egy Lélek ! Hajrá Turán!
kursad86 2 years ago 4
How do you get away with now wearing an armguard? Usally I get a bruse if I don't wear one.
33justjoshin 2 years ago
it all depends on how you shoot... i don´t use any armguard and have only manage to bruse myself 3-4 times
Naldorian 2 years ago
As you can see when they hold their bow, their arm is slightly bent outwards, they don't hold their arm straight out as you do when shooting longbows or recurves.
Kaoskadosk 2 years ago
if you learn not to lock your bow arm out and keep your elbow slightly bent, it keeps the arm away from the string.
MrStickbow 2 years ago
There's a lot.
szmesz 2 years ago
thats awsome where is that
matthew5rocks 2 years ago
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KopKranker 2 years ago
not gay , but i agree they could scip the hats(=
betiboyyer 2 years ago
idézet: "Magyarok nyilaitól ments meg uram minket!"
hamagu1 2 years ago
The little "shoo" sounds are funny. haha
Gawd legolas makes this look so easy
V19torrent 2 years ago
it looks like they arent even trying
BoookChild 2 years ago
Hei!
Du er fra Sverige, sant? Da kan vi kommunikere på norsk også, som jeg snakker litt i gran.
I begynnelsen ungarere skjytte fra hesten, men i senere mitelalteren, det vil si i 15-16 tallet de hadde også gående bowmen, som ikke ridde på hesten og kanskje i begynnelsen også.
Jeg har ikke hest, så jeg må bare bli på jorden!
Ha det bra! Hilsen: János
bjdhgj 2 years ago
isn't traditonal hungarian archery from horse?
lakotadak 2 years ago 3
Huns, avars, türks, magyars (hungarians) have the same roots.
HungariansAreHuns 2 years ago 5
That style of the clothing and weapons looks exactly the same as ours (kazakh). Btw the house ( we call it jurt looks similar as well)
Suleimenoff 2 years ago 3
we call this house "jurta". we are "magyar" people and there are "madjars" in kazakhstan - brothers and sisters of ours. google "kurultaj", it is an annual meeting of the magyar people from all around the world.
recurvebows 2 years ago 4
plus they shot them from horseback
trianglechokes 2 years ago
the huns recurve was way better at penetrating armor than the english long bow hands down thats y it was soooooooooooooo feared
trianglechokes 2 years ago
lol didnt the english longbow penetrate french plate armor during the 100 year war in the 1400s? Cant really compare the two bows there 100s of years apart LOL. also is the mongol bow the same as the hun cause the mongol bow was known to go through european chainmail.
ralphyboy1 2 years ago
actually it is 'thousands of years apart'. any asian design recurve is superior to the primitive longbow.
recurvebows 2 years ago
bow is fucking nice!!
SpicyHam 3 years ago
by the way, turks and maygars come frome the same roots!! magyars and turks has in the past the same culture, the same war tactics, and the same weapons!!
TurKDeutscheR 3 years ago
they are both Turanian and that pretty much sums it up :D
BurianAttila 3 years ago
this bow, is typical bow from the central asia, its not turk or magyar, this bow is CENTRAL ASIAN BOW!! turks and magyars are borthers. bloodbrothers!!
TurKDeutscheR 3 years ago
There was a documentary on the Ottoman bow, that it was the fastest of all bows. Very similiar to Hungarian bow I think. After all, both are descendants of the Hunnic tribes.
AnaMurida 3 years ago
The Ottomans did not only fight Hungarians but Mongols too. Timurlenk wanted unity but also wanted to lead the Ottomans, brother fought brother.
Sometimes politics takes over, and in the case of Turks-Hungarians, it was in the interests of the Pope and others.
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hirsutesimia 3 years ago
surely ottoman bows...
if im right??
southparkguildwars 3 years ago
hungarian bows, they are earlyer than ottoman, from 800 - 900 AD
szalard 3 years ago
they both come from the same source, ural mountains
nabecaydim 3 years ago
ppl say that hungarian, huns and the likes came from the Ural mountains, even tho, i believe, noone ever found traces of human life in the Ural... I'd say that Turanian people came from central-eastern Asia to eastern Europe, but I dont think they lived in the Ural mountains. Correct me if I'm wron, I'm not entirely sure.
Awesome video bye the way, I've just started taking Baranta lessons, I love it!
BurianAttila 3 years ago
i do not know any particular city there. but roots comes from somewhere over there. anyways, turks and magyars come from the same root. we should be able to leave aside the religion and cooperate. i want to see a stronger hunagry.
nabecaydim 3 years ago
I WANT THOSE HATS!!
:D:D:D
UberLenovo 3 years ago 3
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this is 5000 years old ottoman [osmanli]bows.. not hungarian..
balikci035 3 years ago
There are several different types of bows on this vid. May ybe we can call some or one of them ottoman bow, but thee is at least one tukish bow, that was used int the 13-16 century; there is a middle avarish bow on the vid, that was used in the 5-6 century, probably more, and I gess some of the magyars had alsothe same type. An there is one magyar bow o in this vid, which looks ebsolutely like hungarian bows that were found in old hungarian tombs.
bjdhgj 3 years ago
hungarian kingdom was around long before the ottomon empire was these are magyar bows
overflow77 3 years ago
lol there was no hungaria before 5000 years. so youare dreaming my friend.. but there turks in the world 5000years so learn some!!!!!
balikci035 3 years ago
hungarians were around for more than 5000 years that is why hungarian is one of the oldest languages in europe , we may of not lived in europe but , around the urals and siberia most likely
overflow77 3 years ago 3
the "Turk" name appeared in 546 AD, the Hungarian "Magyar" name in 527 AD. so no one is more older than the other (in the matter of fact, we are a little older than you). believe me I know this because I have my PH in this! and do not insult Hungarians! they are keeping alive this tradition, you just talking but you do not do anything to keep it alive!
szalard 3 years ago
how about you learn some english before posting stuff without any solid foundation?
BurianAttila 3 years ago
what do you guys want you want me to lie comeon..
balikci035 3 years ago
@balikci035
idiot.....
MsBackpackman 9 months ago
these are ottoman bows
love2understand 3 years ago
@love2understand
NO COMMENT....
MsBackpackman 9 months ago
hun-mongols..
NotOK88 3 years ago
would you mind to be less pathetic? thanx
DamnedNationalists 3 years ago 2
dont mix huns and mongols..
balikci035 3 years ago 3
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Like the bows but the English/welsh Longbow is better
phillitupp 3 years ago
Depends what qualities you're looking for. Longbows are better for the Northern European climate and have better range (and carry their power better over longer ranges), but composite have greater power at closer ranges and are much easier to handle. Take your pick.
Ornolfr 3 years ago
I don't know about Longbows, but with our Magyar Reflex-bows, Magyars in the 9th-10th century were able to perform aimed shots at 500 metres, and i think the maximum distance at wich it could kill was 800 metres
BurianAttila 3 years ago
That's a very long distance, I was under the impression that 800N longbows could just about reach the 500m mark.
I may be wrong.
xxxIRossHi 2 years ago
I'm not sure about that, but that's what i learned at school, and my History teacher knows this stuff pretty good... I'm too lazy, but if you want you can do some research on it... If you do let me know :D thx
BurianAttila 2 years ago
These bows were used way before 900's, how about the english-welsh longbows? I'd say around 1100-1200, but I'm not sure, and these magyar bows were feared across europe at the time :D Dotn get me wrong, english longbows are a marvel too, but I prefer magyar
BurianAttila 3 years ago
cserkesztaborban volt utoljara a kezemben eredeti magyar ij, de az felejthetlen volt asszem ha joll emlekszem 32 vagy tobb fontos volt szoval rendesen megszenvedtunk vele. Jo a vidi
jklonmajszter 3 years ago
wants one!!!
IIOllOII 3 years ago
wow man this is nice!
Greetings Turkish
Sellos23 3 years ago 5
im half hungarian :)
forganater 3 years ago 4
Never forget about it!:))))
darkwindmill 3 years ago 3
i never will.
i might be getting a hungarian bow for christmas tho!
forganater 3 years ago 3
your hungarian history: zero....
bbobo1 3 years ago
Hát, szívesen meghallgatom a te verziódat ...
bjdhgj 3 years ago
Nem az Ural mögötti területekről jöttek a magyarok errefelé, valahonnan ázsiai irányból? A kettős honfoglalás elmélete ma is létező. Tényleg elég gyorsan történt a letelepedés, mégha sokáig meg is maradtak a nomád életforma elemei. A magyarok különböző törzsek szövetségeként érkeztek ide, nem?
bjdhgj 3 years ago
A Kárpát medencében pedig tényleg nem egy egységes nemzettel találták szemben magukat, hanem kisebb közösségekkel, nem? Akiket nem egyszerűen leigáztak - beolvadtak. Mi tudok rosszul?
bjdhgj 3 years ago
theyre dressed like huns lol.
ralphyboy1 3 years ago
Yes! That time people from the East had quite the similar clothing. And some here in Hungary say, that huns and hungarians have the same origin of their nation. It was taken as fact through almost our whole history. Some say, and I can accept it: Hungarians came to their home two times: First together with the huns.
bjdhgj 3 years ago
i thought the huns are from like kazakstan and mongolia? hungarians are more like serbians originally i thought, but they intermixed with central asian huns. and than after they took it over they named it hungaria.
ralphyboy1 3 years ago
Hungarians came from the place behind URAL mountain - actually more or less the same path than the huns. We call ourselves "magyar", becouse the old hungarian nation was a gathering of several small nations holding together, and the strongest was the "magyar" nation. They came here from the far east, from somewhere in Asia. They were nomads, so they did not have a specified "home-land". At least not the way we talk about "homelands" today. But serbians are an absolutely different nation.
bjdhgj 3 years ago
oh sorry i thought serbia was next to hungary.
ralphyboy1 3 years ago
It doesn't matter where Serbia nowadays is on the map. 1100 years ago, when hungarians came to this place, there was no serbia at all. There were very small nations lived here quite separately from eachother. When hungarians came to this place these very small nations inmixed themselves into hungarians. So they were not wiped out, or killed by the hungarians, but involved or sg like that. Look further!
bjdhgj 3 years ago
The whole process was very fast, and some scientists say it was becouse when hungarians came here there were "old" hungarians already from the previous incoming - a few hundred years before. Hungarians have found not only unknown nations here. That's why they managed to transform their nomad life-form to a kind of feudalist life-form, or pick the new life-form up that fast.
bjdhgj 3 years ago
Why nobody is using a thumb release?
Kuba022 3 years ago