again you are delusional from 2 thessalonians 2:10 says that exactly i show you exactly where it says we will not all sleep and we will be murdered others say put to death how can you ttake the mark of the beast and been raptured not one thing you say is truth not one thing is biblical its strong delusions hence i show you it says we will be murdered for our faith then you say it dont say that! delusional and you called jeus and the bible a lie read it!
mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10 this verse is you and you are on your way to hell you do not have understanding and have strong dilusions the bible does not at all talk of the rapture only the 7th trumpet at the end of revelations jesus return!
The VID was good but there is no reason for GRAVES to Split open when the dead are risen because the bodies will be the same as Jesus risen body which passed through solid walls & doors so our bodies will do the same, No GRAVES WILL BE SPLIT OPEN AS OUR BODIES WILL PASS THRU THE DIRT & STONE other wise the Vid was good.
there is one rapture and that starts the millenium rain for 1000 years sorry no pre trip or mid trib its not biblical and i rebuke all who tries to justify it as so when jesus says all threw the bible we will be put to death so i can prove it to be a satanic belief and not biblical
@johninitforfun YOur nuts & don't know the Bible very good. A little knowledge has done you more harm that good and led you into BAD DOCTRINES that you learned from other BAD TEACHINGS. If your mind was not so NARROW try searching gracethrufaith dotcom and read & listen to all of his teaching which are literal bible explanations & logic of GOD. You are swallowing satans lie hook, line & sinker. How sad for you. I rebuke your false beliefs & ignorance.
@MPPFLIPP mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10 this verse is you and you are on your way to hell you do not have understanding and have strong dilusions the bible does not at all talk of the rapture only the 7th trumpet at the end of revelations jesus return!
@MPPFLIPP there read them verses! you will be murdered idiot i know my verses i know the bible i know my lord and the holy spirt you call jesus a liar he told us many times we will be put to death got it so dont tell me to go look at some freaks website trying to manipulate the bible when i just given you very clear evidence we will be murdered and its you 2 thessalonians 2:10 you have strong delusions pal you also dont have the holy spirit as you claim now comment on what i gave you
@johninitforfun What is to comment on in those verses, they are the same verses constantly given by post trib followers & are applied out of context. I sent you verses N Ur inbox but U have not answered them. instead U send these verses which R apply mostly to the Trib Saints, not the Church or R your fake darts thrown at me as if they could hurt, but they are misapplied. If you can not give some explanation of each 1 why send them? Most don't match or complete a story or meaning. Vague aren't U
@johninitforfun You send verses like these & you don't imagine your self as being judgmental. What a joke U R. You know what U know but refuse to study any deeper or to look at verses that go against what you think is correct. U say I call Jesus a 'liar". Prove where I did that. YOU ARE THE LIAR. The only saints to be murdered are the Trib Saint not the Church in the Trib. UR confused by your misunderstandings of what U read. All post tribers R like this. They miss 1/2 of the Bible in confusion
@johninitforfun The Church has been killed for the last 2000 yrs, but in the Trib when GODS WRATH is poured out, it is not on the Church, the BRIDE OF CHRIST. What BRIDEGROOM would punish & kill HIS BRIDE?. You ignore the Promises of GOD to keep us from HIS WRATH as Enoch was b/f the flood. As Lott was b/f Fire fell on Sodom. Rapture examples are all over the Bible. Mat 24/25 is to the Jews & the Trib Saints, not to the Church. But Ur too blind to see & understand. Satan has blinded Ur eyes, SAD
@johninitforfun the only way a man can manipulate the Bible is when the readers do not confirm what the man says by verifying what the Bible says N Context. Something Ur not very good at, it seems. I read every1's teachings to see if thy say what the Bible says. Some have shown me I had some parts wrong in the past, so I changed my beliefs when I saw these Truths. But, if YOU REFUSE TO READ & LOOK, YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE. It is the Bible that will Change you, if you can understand the difference
@johninitforfun "when jesus says all threw the bible we will be put to death so i can prove it to be a satanic belief and not biblical"
I agree, but to be brought to death, according to the Word, means brought-delivered up before the councils(churches) and synagogues of satan who is also called and referred to as "death". Heb 2:14 Jesus tells us not one hair on our head will perish. Luke 21:12-19
@bheadh mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10 look they are nuts here is the proof they cant see and look at the dude above me telling me i dont know scripture and i am a devil
@johninitforfun These people are full of their own pumped-up, delusional self-pride. Thinking that everyone that disagrees with their agenda is evil, demonic, crazy..etc. While they sit in judgement and condemn everyone. (they want people to suffer..especially their detractors and enemies.) If you question their beliefs, they label anyone (even people they don't know) as on their way to hell. Christ is my judge. Not these folks. They twist scripture, much like islam does to promote their agenda.
"Love one another as I have loved you" Is calling people "immature" and doubting their faith part of your "rapture religion"? (no love there) It almost seems like you WANT people to suffer. (no skin off my nose, etc) You have no idea who I am, what I've read or not, and you certainly have NO IDEA about my faith. I do NOT doubt Gods word. However it is my prerogative to doubt YOUR word. You are NOT Gods representative on earth. No matter how condescending you are to others. (says alot about you)
@bheadh Listen, i know that your faith is weak at best. I dont want anyone to suffer but when there given information and they dont pay attention or disregard it or whatever then thats on the person. I do my best to proclaim Gods word. I dont claim to know everything and as a human i will make mistakes but i do what i can to reduce them. And your age and mentality shows your lack of knowledge and makes you look immature...so yeah i seem to know a bit about you.
@JesusDiedforMe01..cont... Question your views. I am as old as you if not older. I have had many trials in life. Jesus has lead me through all of them in His peace. I care not what YOU think of me or how you percieve my veiws. You simply did NOT explain where it says in the bible, you claim to know so well, Jesus will return for some, then later come back for everyone else. Which is what this is all about. Despite your constant charcter assasination of me. and your baby-ish tit for tat posts
@bheadh For your info there is no (1) verse that spells out the Rapture, it is like the TRINITY, you need to look at a number of verses to understand it properly. GOD did this to hide it from satan & stupid people. For the same reason JESUE hid some things from those who listened to HIM so they would not hear the Truth. HE does hide some things from those who will not believe. JESUS is coming for some 1st then returning to the earth at the end to separate the wheat from the tares.Which R U?
@JesusDiedforMe01..cont.. that do little good and definitely do not not spread any kind of "Gospel" of the love of Christ. You condemn others that disagree with your veiws and think so much of yourself by claiming how much you "know" in a self-serving and unloving way. (no skin off my nose if..) You use my words to table turn to make yourself look "better than thou" on not only my post, but every one that dissagrees. This is NOT the Gospel of my Lord. I love you and will continue to pray for you
@bheadh Wrong again. I try to help a lot of people. Now my views might seem bad but thats only becuase i use the bible as the standard. For people out their that add or delete stuff from the bible or lean on their own understandings then yeah ill jump on them beucase what their doing is wrong. And proclaiming Gods word (ME) im supposed to give the information and if i can advise a little bit and possibly help someone then so much the better.
@JesusDiedforMe01 Sir, nobody has said anything about "adding or deleting" anything from the bible. Nobody is "leaning on their own understanding "either. You were simply asked to show where you get your info. (John Darby) You have refused to answer this and then regard yourself as some kinda bible "defender". You aren't that either if you can't explain YOURSELF and HOW you come to your conclusion form the verses you quote. You have condescended to me and "others".Look at your response, "I" "me"
@bheadh John Darby was a LATE COMER. Try looking up "EPHRIAM the SYRIAN" 373AD in which he wrote several sermons on the Catching away. Long b/f Darby. There were many teachers thru the ages who taught the Rapture, your just IGNORANT to them as you believe what ever your told by IGNORANT teachers. If your in any manner malleable try reading or listening to some good teaching at gracethrufaith dotcom. He makes it very clear from all the dozens of scriptures in both the Old & New Testaments.
@MPPFLIPP So, everyone that dissagrees with your rapture fantasy is "ignorant" and "stupid"...how Christlike. (NOT) The source document of quotes from St. Ephraim has been challenged and is regarded by mainstream Christianity as a "bought and paid for FRAUD". These "quotes" "found" in 1995 were suspect from the beginning. $500,000.00 was paid to the "researcher" who "found" them by "evangelicals". It's this simple, Christ doesn't return twice, 1st for some and "later" for others. God bless you!
@JesusDiedforMe01 Con't "I" "me" "MY" etc. Your pumped up opinion of yourself has shown your true message in just about every post to me and others. You "help" no one by insuting them and their faith whether YOU think it is "wrong" or not. You are NOT a bible AUTHORITY, You are no-ones judge, and with people you don't know you sure have alot of disdain for people you are trying to "help". Take the PLANK out of your eye, so then you can MAYBE can help someone with a splinter in theirs.
@bheadh If someone is wrong i WILL correct them whether they like it or not. Im not a bible authority BUT im learning and technically, NO ONE on earth is a 100% bible authority except God and Christ and the angels. You have the pumped up opinion of seeking out people and becuase you dont like what they have to say you think there wrong. Look buddy all i want to do is help where i can and if that means blasting some people then maybe it will wake them up....like you. God Bless
@JesusDiedforMe01 Hey brother keep up your good work, I don't see anything of what our narrow minded 'friend' sees in your comments. MOst post trib thinkers think and act like he does. It must be a disease (mental ) they all have. They hate it when someone who knows the Bible & is guided by the HS tells them so and they make up all types of presumptions about it. It never stops. Satan has blinded them to TRUTH and LOGIC of GODS WORD . You got it right, GOD BLESS Flipp
You've answered nothing. You twist bible verses to further your agenda. The one question you havn't answered is where, ANYWHERE in the bible that Jesus returns 2 times? Once to get some, then another time to get those who've come through the tribulation? It's just not there.
@bheadh You must be very young and immature. You just keep reading the Bible and maybe one day you will understand. As for me, I've been a Born Again Christian for over 50 years and Christ KNOWS me very well. That's why I can't wait to see Him in the Rapture. You have a nice night.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Um...Christ knows EVERYBODY "very well". I guess you think because you believe in the "rapture" (by the way, since you're a big bible quoter, where does it say the church is raptured, using the word "rapture", ...not your version of scripture) that you are somehow better or more "special" than others, you aren't. Please get off your high horse and back into your high chair. A message of hate and condemnation is what you push here, again, not very Christlike at all. God bless!
"rapture" is for certain, hence, the call to "watch". Because Jesus doesn't return twice. It says in the Bible "The dead in Christ shall rise FIRST, then we who REMAIN will be caught up in the air.." These scenarios are dreamt up by these guys to sell books. People should believe in God and not negate His power instead of listening to clowns like LaHaye and others. There will be signs of the "last days" for Christ promised us "I will not leave you orphans".
@bheadh Christ does NOT touch the Earth in the Rapture. He is ABOVE the Clouds when He Calls His Faithful to Him. No one else on Earth see Christ & evidently you won't. Jesus VOICE sounds LIKE a Trumpet: Revelation 1:10 & 4:1. In the Rapture He comes WITH Rewards: Revelation 22:12. Now read 2Timothy 4:8 & 1Peter 5:4. At the 2nd Coming Jesus comes WITH a sword. No Rewards. He will KILL His enemies & guess who's WITH Him? Revelation 17:14 & 19:7-20. EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM THEN!!
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Rev. 1:10 His voice sounded like a "trumpet" when He was explaining Jonhs mission "to write to the churches" what does this have to do with the "rapture"? Same thing in 4:1. All the other verse talk about his return. (ONCE) nowhere in the examples you gave does it say He will return for some..and then another time for everyone else. Acts 1:11. "Men of Galilee..why do you stand here looking up at the skies?, this Jesus, who was taken from you, will return, JUST AS you saw Him...
@bheadh This was spoken to the crowd watching Jesus "go up to the heavens" by an ANGEL. I will believe them (the angel and the writers of ACTs before I believe in some "authors" trying to sell books and so-called "preachers" trying to further their agenda..and line their pockets. Ther is no "special" return for some...and then others later. Jesus will return...ONCE and for ALL. God bless you, and I'll pray for you.
@bheadh Yes, Just as they saw Him. Hidden by the clouds. Christ loves His Children, His Saints, His Holy Ones, His Bride, His Born-Again Believers. Those who are in the Rapture will NOT suffer His Judgments & Wrath which are going to poured out on the Whole, Unbelieving, Hateful, Unrepentant World. We will be "Home" with Him, then RETURN with Him just as Revelation 17:14 says. We get our Rewards - Revelation 22:12; 2Timothy 4:8; 1Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10; Revelation 3:10 MARANATHA
@JesusHoldMyHand1 I admire your love for Christ, as I love Him as well. I'll just use one of your examples...they ALL talk about the return of the Lord but NONE of them says he returns TWICE. 2nd Peter 5:4.."when the Chief Shepherd appears you will win for yourselves the unfading crown of glory"..where does it say that Christ returns, gathers some, then comes back for others, on ANY of these quotes? Whatever happened to "the dead in Christ will RISE FIRST then we WHO REMAIN will be caught up...
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Your "form" of the "rapture" was dreamt up by John Nelson Darby a defrocked Anglican priest in the 1830s. His contemporaries considered him deranged, but in the religious fanaticism of America at the time..(the "millerites", Joseph Smith, SDAs..etc) his "theory" fit right in. It gives people false hope that they, will somehow be wisked away.while others (usually their enemies) will suffer the torments of the trib. Christ returns ONCE. Those who are living at that time and are
@bheadh Then you don't believe Paul, Jesus, John or even Peter? That's a shame. I think they presented the Rapture in very clear passages, which of course, you don't understand. The Bible was written starting after Christ was murdered in the 1st Century, so you go ahead and believe some false teachers and watch misleading videos all you want. Maybe you'll be Resurrected after the GT. Revelation 20:4-6. Then again, maybe not. I KNOW where I will be, but NOT down here with you. RAPTURE
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Sir, I never condemned you, nor insulted you. In fact I prayed for you and asked Gods blessing upon you. Is this how you treat everyone that disagrees with your "rapture" agenda? You quote the bible very well, but you still have NOT shown ANYWHERE in the scriptures that Christ RETURNS TWICE. You don't know me and don't know what I believe. For you to make condescending comments about someone you don't know isn't very Christlike. In fact Christ asks us not to judge AT ALL.
@JesusHoldMyHandChrist asks us to love one another and lead each other to HIM. You condemn others while considering yourself safe from all harm. Is this what Christ taught? You do not know what my fate will be and cursing someone to evil while you think your protected position will save you from ALL harm is hypocritical. Are you God? do you know the fate of anyone else? And by the way you don't know where you will be unless you can see into the future. Like I said I'll follow Christ and with my
@JesusHoldMyHand1 cont..under the grace of God, will not die. BUT the DEAD IN CHRIST WILL RISE FIRST. as THE BIBLE SAYS. Rev. 3:10"I will keep you safe" doesn't mean going to heaven. It means just what it says, you'll be safe. Go to the very next sentence, "the trial that is comming to THE WHOLE world, to TEST ALL MEN'. (you conveniently left it out) "Hold fast to what you have so that no man may rob you of your crown". My Lord suffered & died for me, Are you willing to do the same for HIM?
@bheadh It's a shame that you don't think anyone's been "tested" during the past 1,950 years!! I've already answered all your questions, so stay down here. It's no skin off my nose. Hope you pass your "testing" ..... too bad you evidently don't believe now, but you will repent during the GT. That's what it's for. For you to repent. Good Day
@bheadh You dont have faith in Jesus or God you know why? Becuase you dont believe the bible. To doubt Gods word is to doubt God which in turn doubting means to not be faithful..plane and simple.
@JesusDi Don't miss you rapture "plane" Mr. "Simple". Maybe when you learn to spell, people might take you seriously, maybe. Sorry, you asked for that one. God bless. I'll continue to pray for y'all.
@bheadh I'm sure Christ is "proud" of your Christian Love?!? That's what I mean by immature. That is what you are..... Very Childish. You need to go through the GT to learn not to "mock" other people & to REPENT. You also should learn some spelling & grammar yourself.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 God bless you sir. It's not your decision to decide who goes through the "GT" and who doesnt. ( you accuse me of mockery) your tit 4 tat additude mirrors your uncompromising position. (without a logical explaination) We are to "test all spirits" and yours is SEVERELY LACKING. It is obvious by your posts that you love to push your agenda but cannot explain it in a Christian manner without insults and condemnation, then you expect people to listen to you? I'll continue to pray4U.
@bheadh Its your pergogative to be argumentative and not listen to people who know a LOT and are trying to help you. But thats cool, because God knows what your game is. Basically do this....READ THE BIBLE page by page and ask God to help you understand it and search the internet as well for help. DO NOT add or delete things to the bible. What you think dont make a difference. If you read the bible its very easy to see what its talking about. NO IFF AND OR BUTTS about it.
@JesusDiedforMe01 You're really proud about what you THINK know. You KNOW NOTHING about my faith or if I've read the bible in it's entirety. You have no idea what I need in life. God does, I'll trust HIM to be my guide, not some one insults, condescends and insults I didn't start the name calling and insults. YOU DID. I see on other posts here you do the same thing to others that question your veiws. Listen to you? are you kidding? How could any one listen to someone that belittles those that
The panic world wide will most likely be the collapse of the world money markets. The "beast" is the 4 horns of power, political, education, financial and religion, and he who raises the beast from the dead will be type of anti-christ, but not the REAL one as he does not appear until the 6th seal, 6th vial, 6th trumpet and Jesus will not appear until the 7th trumpet.
@RememberPaulRevere Your are WRONG. The 7th Trumpet is one of Judgments. Rev. 11:19 - an earthquake & a great hailstorm. The "Trumpet" you are speaking of is Jesus' VOICE: Revelation 1:10 & 4:1. Jesus comes FOR His FAITHFUL Bride BEFORE the antichrist is revealed in Rev 6. The 2nd half of the Tribulation (Rev 13) starts when the antichrist forces everyone to get his mark/number & declares himself god. I don't know who is teaching you all you errors, but you can read the Bible for yourself.
The Bible CLEARLY states When Our Lord and Savior arrives and that is not until AFTER the 7th Trumpet sounds and the two witnesses are called back to Our Father from the dead.
@RememberPaulRevere The Lord Returns at His 2nd Coming AFTER the Rapture, ATER the Great Tribulation. In Rev 17:14, the BRIDE comes back WITH Christ. Same as in Rev. 19:7-20. He then sends out His ANGELS to "gather" all those who are alive, Believers & Non-Believers. Mark 13:26-27; Matthew 25:31-46. After the 2 Witnesses & the 144,000 Believing Jews are Rapture, an ANGEL preaches the Gospel. You had better start reading your Bible & quit listening to false teachers.
II Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. 4) who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped: so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
This does not happen until the 6th Trump, 6th Seal, 6th Vial.
Who are God's chosen people? Those who believe in Him and who love Him.
Jesus Tells us we shall STAND, it is God's will that His elect shall do this.
Jesus also tells us exactly the chain of events that will take place in Matt 24. Verse 9 tells us that we shall be delivered up to be afflicted. Mark 13:9-11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither premeditate, but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye, for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit.
@RememberPaulRevere I will ask you: When are we elect? When do we get our inheritance/rewards? Who are the 12 elders who have Crowns in Rev 4:1-5? When did they get their Crowns? Why does Jesus tell the Believing Churches (Christians - Rev. 2 & 3) to REPENT? When does Jesus come WITH His rewards?
Not sure what any of this has to do with the rapture doctrine, but the 24 Elders according to the Strongs Concordance in the Greek, refers to "members of the Celestial council."
Jesus ONLY approved of 2 churches: Smyrna and Philadelphia. Rev.3:10 "...I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon ALL the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
What is the hour of temptation? Reward is given to those who overcome this test of faith.
@RememberPaulRevere The 24 elders are the 12 Apostles: Matthew 19:28 - The other 12 are Prophets of the Old Testament. We were chosen & elect BEFORE the Creation of the World: Ephesians 1:4-5 & 1:11-12; 1Peter 1:1-2. "When the Chief Shepherd APPEARS you will receive a Crown of Glory..." 1Peter 5:4 (Rapture). Our Rewards are our inheritance: Colossians 3:24; the Old Testament Saints are in the Rapture because Daniel gets his Inheritance then also. Daniel 12:13. Revelation 22:12 RAPTURE!!!!
If Jesus Christ and his throne, kingdom are coming here, where do you think to go before He gets here? This "Prior" arrival you claim He will make before His 2nd arrival, tells me those taken in the 1st round are not taken by Jesus Christ as there is NOTHING that tells us this will happen prior to the son of perdition being revealed, so that leaves who else that takes them? Let's STAY Biblical.....prove to me that Jesus tells us He comes 2 times.
@RememberPaulRevere We go to Jesus in the Rapture. He takes us to His Father's House which is IN HEAVEN. We then come back WITH Him when He returns AFTER the GT. He never touches Earth in the Rapture. He's ABOVE the clouds. Every eye will see Him at His 2nd Coming - NOT at the Rapture. Every Scripture I've given you IS THE WORD OF GOD. I wish you much luck during the antichrist's reign (short, but very murderous). Deny the Bible all you want, it's your life & eternity. MARANATHA
You can not show me the scripture where JESUS tells of 2 comings. But many are well documented where He warns us of those coming in His stead. I mean its real simple to tell us He plans to "Rapture" up a bunch of folks and then will come back a 2nd time where we all are transfigured after the 7th Trumpet. But that is NOT what He tells us, thus, false doctrine is being taught and many will be deceived.
The taken and those left behind is talking about false prophets if you read the SUBJECT. The word Taken in the Greek is not benevolent, but malevolent.
6 comes before 7, so clearly the events BEFORE 7 is Not Our Lord and Savior Jesus, but would be Anti-christ or INSTEAD of Christ.
@RememberPaulRevere You are absolutely dumbfounded. The antichrist is in Chapter 6:1. Jesus Christ is opening the Seals to HIS JUDGMENTS & WRATH. I feel so very sorry for you. You are in a deep fog, or worse.
Anti-christ holds many offices. The full bodied/spirited Anti-christ Satan is not revealed until the 666 signs are completed.
I am not dumbfounded nor in a fog. Father's Word is very clear in my mind. If He could love us so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross for our sins and to defeat death-Satan, those who wish to fly away from the dangers and tribulations ahead, are deceiving themselves. No where in scripture does Father "Fly Away" warriors.
@RememberPaulRevere Do you know and understand that Satan is under complete control of Jesus Christ? Do you know that he can't do ANYTHING WITHOUT Jesus knowing? Do you understand tha JESUS created the Lake of Fire FOR Satan, his angels, his followers, ANYONE who does NOT accept Jesus Christ? Satan gets thrown into the LOF AFTER his main men, the antichrist & the false prophet. You have a lot of reading to do. I suggest you get started!! JESUS WINS & I'LL BE WITH HIM!!!!
Funny how you can exclaim my lack of faith or knowledge of the Word, when you have YET to prove of Jesus 2 comings? i know it does not exist, so who is in a fog?
It was not my intention to get into a long debate over this, but to point out the TRUTH found in Father's Word, the Holy Bible.
Your videos are very well done, if the rapture FLY AWAY doctrine was removed, they would be more accurate to the Word.
@RememberPaulRevere You keep saying "2 comings of Jesus". He does NOT touch Earth at the Rapture. He is ABOVE the clouds, like in Acts 1:9. We go to Him, through the clouds, ABOVE THEM, then go to the Father's House. Do you know where that is? It's IN HEAVEN. No one on Earth sees Him - Only those who meet Him in the air. Read Revelation 3:10. I WILL BE WITH THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. If you think an hour is 60 minutes, YOU ARE WRONG. Soon has been almost 2,000 years! MARANATHA
It was not me saying it, but addressed to your references to the elusive 'rapture". The Bible clearly tells us Jesus Christ will not return to earth until after the son of perdition is revealed and during-after the 7th Trumpet sounds and we do not return to Him until THAT time, not before, unless our destiny in our flesh bodies is destroyed prior to that coming.
So without written proof in the Word, many will go to something in the clouds claiming to be Jesus? SCARY!
Anti-christ comes in prosperous, IN PEACE, beautiful of face. Promising everything under the sun to those who will follow him. His councils will try to convert God's Elect to join them. Father will betray son, Mother betray daughter, neighbor betray neighbor unto Death-Satan. WHY would they do this? Because Our Father in Heaven has WORK for us to do and that is to STAND against the forces of evil and allow the Holy Spirit to speak thru us in order that others might be saved.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 AMEN BROTHER, THESE POST TRIB FOLKS ARE LIKE SNAKES WHO TWIST ALL THEY SEE WHAT A SHAME THEY HAVE SWALLOWED SATANS DECEPTIVE LIES TO CONFUSE THE CHURCH AND KEEP IT IN DISARRAY, PERHAPS GOD USES IT TO SEPARATE THE TRUE TRUSTERS IN GODS WORD FROM FALSE WOULD-BE BELIEVERS WHO DON'T REALLY BELIEVE GOD OR HIS WORD KEEP UP THE DEFENSE OF THE FAITH & GOD BLESS YOU ( CHECK OUT JACK KELLEY AT. . . gracethrufaith dotcom . . . HE TEACHES LIKE YOU BELIEVE AND IS VERY GOOD FREE MP3
@MPPFLIPP Thank you; however, many of the post-tribbers are listening and watching false, misleading videos. They don't know (and most don't care) how to separate Rapture Verses from 2nd Coming Verses. They read something here, skip around round, missing everything inbetween. Most of them "hit the ceiling", "pound the walls", curse at us - because we KNOW Christ is coming FOR His Church - Bride BEFORE His Judgments start to fall. Most of them think Revelation is Satan's WRATH!!!!!
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Right on, it blows my mind how so many folks who claim to be in CHRIST can be so wrong in their understandings. Though I can not judge for sure, I almost think most of them are lost as their 'Fruit" is "bad fruit" from a Bad Tree. You say truth. It is really good to see another believer sharing the Gospel to the LOST and standing up to these misinformed people. The real problem is their too narrow minded to read what is sent to them. So, they never learn more. Sad. GOD BLESS.
@MPPFLIPP Most of the time, you don't even have to "interpret" anything .... it's as clear as ever. It never to ceases to amaze me as to how many think they NEED to be persecuted. Jesus Christ NEVER persecutes His Church - His Believers - His Saints. Where they get that, I'll never know. Discipline, yes - Persecute, no. I just wonder if they also think Jesus pesecuted all the Apostles that were murdered. They'd probably say "yes" - they needed it. I don't think they KNOW Christ
Our Father loves His children and promises to protect us. There is nothing to fear. Just as the Israelites during Moses time, were shielded from the plagues of Egypt, so shall God's elect be. They can not harm one hair on our head, unless it is Father's will they do so!
Funny how not one word called "rapture" can be found in the Bible, yet so many follow it. Just amazes me.
The KEY to understanding Father's Word is knowing what the "subject" is at the beginning of the chapters and NOT taking them out of context. This method simplifies The Word where even a child can understand or an adult like myself, who for years did not understand the Truth and Meaning of the letter Father sent to us.
@RememberPaulRevere Oh yes, it is. Harpazo = Greek. Rapere = Latin. Meaning: to snatch away quckly - 1Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1Corinthinans 15:50-54. A twinkling of an eye is about 1/6 of a nanosecond. Faster than a "blink" of an eye. Jesus comes for us in John 14:1-3. He "receives" us - We go to Him. Above the clouds. That's why His VOICE sounds like a "Trumpet". Now, like I said before, you're not reading the Bible. You're letting someone spoon feed you, and they're WRONG......
Judah is but ONE tribe, what about the other tribes of ISRAEL or those who believe in God and Our Savior Jesus Christ? Are you now judging who God's Elect will be?
Aren't we there? "on the brink of an uncertain and frightful future"...? Have a look at the economies of Europe... The U.S. is now involved in it's longest war ever..with no end in sight...even though the President said b4 taking office that he would end the war in Iraq in 6 months. They have slowly turned our country into a police state while the vast majority (mabe half-vast) of the people sit at home and watch "American Idol". I have a feeling things are going to start alot faster now. Time..
just wondering if i dont get taken up in the rapture does that mean im going to hell ?? I do believe in jesus always have done, But sometimes i do bad things like most.
@i8thegoverment If you believe in Jesus Christ, asked Him to forgive you of your sins & repent (complete change of heart, realizing those sins were wrong) then you are saved. The only way you can miss the Rapture is if you are living in sin when the Rapture happens: living with a lover, having children out of wedlock, lying, stealing, involved in false religions, NOT being FAITHFUL to Jesus, homosexuality, etc. During the Great Tribulation all Christians that were left behind WILL repent.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ok i see what you mean but isnt most people living in sin ?. I think i have change dramatically but we all have bad thought, And do small things wrong, Like drinking to much and stuff. I have 3 children with my partner of 10 yrs we are not married because im to shy to stand infront of people and do it. surely jesus will not punish us for that. I thought he died on the cross to forgive us of our sins because all people sin. i have prayed to jesus to b forgiven
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ok i see what you mean but isnt most people living in sin ?. I think i have change dramatically but we all have bad thought, And do small things wrong, Like drinking to much and stuff. I have 3 children with my partner of 10 yrs we are not married because im to shy to stand infront of people and do it. surely jesus will not punish us for that. I thought he died on the cross to forgive us of our sins because all people sin. i have prayed to jesus to b forgiven
@i8thegoverment You think living with a lover for 10 years is NOT a sin? You think it's OK to God that you are living in "sexual immorality"? Please read 1Corinthians 6:12-20 When you are a Christian, you are to REPENT, (turn away from sin & have a complete change of heart). God wants you to do what He instructed us to do. Get Married. After you read 1Corinthians ask yourself this: Am I being FAITHFUL to Christ? Please don't put off what you're supposed to do & ask the Lord to forgive you.
@i8thegoverment I might also add, when people Accept Christ as their Savior, becoming a Born Again Christian, it is NOT acceptable to the Lord to CONTINUE killing people, stealing, lying, cheating, having affairs, killing unborn babies, worshiping other gods, dabbling in false religions, etc. We are to live a HOLY, FAITHFUL life unto the Lord. If a person does sin (which everyone does), ask for forgiveness right away. Don't let your sins keep adding up over a week, year, decade, decades....
@i8thegoverment no. it's a wake up time to repent. After the tribulation, if you did not take the mark of the beast, you will go to heaven. But you have to do the works of Jesus in that time. To be honest with you, it's gonna be harder than ever since the antichrist will burn all bibles. Repent and sin no more.
There's two kinds of people who believe the world will end in 2012. 1. People who collect disability because their mentally ill. 2. People who should be collecting disability because they are mentally ill. I just cant wait to hear their excuse why we are still here in 2013.
@eddienickels1 Amen brother, I believe in the Church invisible. I can also see how all roads are leading to Rome, especially in the pentecostal movements now. Did you know that Rick Joyner is part of the order of the Knights of Malta?
This is wrong. When Christs returns and raises the dead and catches up the living to meet him in the air, the whole earth will see and mourn. Christ is coming with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God. Every eye shall see him. 2 Peter 3:10 tells us that the heavens will depart with a great noise, and the earth will melt with a fervent heat. We also know that the wicked will perish at the brightness of his coming. The secret rapture is a lie.
@Stayfit4health No, it is not wrong. You don't seem like you know the difference between Christ coming FOR His FAITHFUL Church, Bride, Believers, Saints, Holy Ones & the 2nd Coming, which are 2 DIFFERENT events. Read 1Thessalonians 4:13-15; 1Corinthians 15:50-54; John 14:1-4 for the Rapture. Only those who are in the Rapture see Jesus at that time. All others will see Him when we return WITH Him at His 2nd Coming. Revelation 17:4 & 19:7-20 In the Rapture He comes as a thief VS. in Glory
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Unfortunately you try to divide the same event. Christ is coming back the way he left, with clouds of angels, every eye is going to see him. He is not coming back invisibly, that is a heresy brought in to the church by John Darby.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; IN WHICH THE HEAVENS WILL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE AND THE EARTH SHALL MELT WITH A FERVENT HEAT. This verse alone makes it clear what happens when he comes as a thief.
@Stayfit4health Do you know how many years are after the semi-colon? Quite a few....as Jesus Christ comes for His FAITHFUL Bride, then all Hell breaks out on Earth. The New Heaven & New Earth are AFTER THE 1,000 year reign of Christ. It's called ETERNITY.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 That excuse is not good enough. It makes it very clear that when he comes as a thief, everyone is going to know about it. We know in Rev that when he comes every eye shall see him. Your dispensational theology was derived by jesuit priests back in the day to take Rome out of the pivture as being antichrist.
God is not real... nor these bogus doomsday prophecies. They fail over and over and over when will society learn!? agh well who knows, and plz dont try and scare me with im going to hell, even when i was a theist I did scholarly work and concluded there is NO hell. Thats why NO christian can prove it using the OT. but idc god isn't real and that brings me peace and happiness :D -sincerely from the grave
@buktomsin Do all the scholarly work you want, you're not going to deny Christ WITHOUT Judgment. You will one day stand before the God who created EVERYTHING we can see & can not see. You will hang your head low & try to explain to Jesus Christ why you REJECTED Him. You are blind, deaf & foolish. You and ONLY you will receive what YOU are due. One of these days, you may see the error of your ways, but until then, your final destination is the Lake of Fire. Revelation 21:7-8 Praying for you
@JesusHoldMyHand1 You have an unsubstantiated premise... which deems your words invaild or without truth. After proving to me there is a god, then you could give me all the cultish babble you want. Until then, I will live my life in reality. You must discern, your folklore is as valid to me, as is mine, to YOU; After your bodily demise you will be drowned in a pourage of deer legs and peanuts and cooked by the ALMIGHTY PINK UNICORN! Do you now see how much that shit, actually encumbers my brain?
@buktomsin Who do you think sculpted all the round planets and hung them in the atmosphere? Who made the sun, moon & stars & keeps them from falling down? Who made gravity, plant, animal & human DNA; all different, DNA locks; who made the oceans & EVERYTHING in them, who made the mountains, wheat, oats, corn, flowers, grass, trees, insects, animals, sand, dirt? Who made our nervous system, digestive system, beating heart, brain, hair, toes? I'll tell you who: OUR CREATOR - Jesus made YOU
@JesusHoldMyHand1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Okay well assumptions without evidence have no validity so why bother with your babble, your question fails at it's premise the same question can be inferred simply put "What made etc..." you and I only know the facts as humans, big bang for solar bodies and evolution for terrestrial matters, anything beyond is unsubstantiated claims from the science view and the cultish BS. The difference is science makes claims that are backed up by evidence, "God did it" ..
@buktomsin An artist paints a beautiful painting; a tailor designs an exquisite suit; a GM factory worker makes a car. Now, let's say you want a new swimming pool for your backyard. You just think about it & poof, it's there? You want a new car instead of your 10 year old one. How long will it take to "evolve" into a new one? Everyday & night you see God's handiwork. You don't appreciate or acknowledge His creativity, His majestic use of colors, His design of our Universe.....You're blind
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Yes humans design objects, with matter that pre-exists, with a "Trial and error" technique, just like evolution just like the big bang, thats why evolution creates stupid things well the big bang. Such as the mother spider that gives birth and allows her babies to eat her and her life is over, unlike other spiders that simply find food for their young. Now, the big bang presents us with a huge universe with much chaos and destruction stars imploding and galaxies being destroyed
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Our own planet with disease and strife and natural disasters all around! And you say "see obvious sign of a designer"... HA at best a retarded creator god who seems to like things with MUCH destruction involved. Don't be fooled if you cherry pick nice things about the universe yes a designer seems nice, more of an emotional appeal though, but I dare you to attempt to mesh all the attributes nice and BAD. Then you'd come out with the idea that thinks, "Hey this creator is DUMB!"
@JesusHoldMyHand1 "If there are any marks at all of special design in creation, one of the things most evidently designed is that a large proportion of all animals should pass their existence in tormenting and devouring other animals." --John Stuart Mill
And if your that ignorantly confused, watch a damn baby grow in the womb, thats how nature works you dumbshit. And NO god isn't pointing a wand saying grow baby grow! If he is he must be accountable for all the dead fetus' blastocysts etc
@buktomsin "Before I formed you in the womb, I KNEW YOU....." Jeremiah 1:5 "For you created my inmost being, you KNIT me together in my Mother's womb." Psalm 139:13 God knew us BEFORE WE WERE BORN - "For He chose us in Him BEFORE cration of the world...." Ephesians 1:4 "In love He PREDESTINED us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ." Ephesians 1:5 "In Him we were also chosen, having been PREDESTINED according to the plan of Him who works out everything..." Ephesians 1:11
@buktomsin You are speaking directly from the mouth of satan. Feel better?? I will KNOW the Truth in Heaven & you will be FEELING the Truth in Hell. Good Luck to you. You still have time to Repent & ask Jesus to forgive you......
@JesusHoldMyHand1 After our brain dies our body dies and we're gone... grow up. And if I were to pick a prophet to repent to, it would be a much better and nicer one than jesus, he seems to have a dislike toward pigs :D
@MrLlud I'm just telling you the TRUTH. You have the right to reject it all you want, but keep in mind that if you do, you will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire. Good Luck to You.
@MrLlud We are to be slaves for Christ. Dedication, Obedience, Beliefs, Preaching the Gospel, Working for the Lord are just a few things we are to be doing. Yes, Paul said he was a Slave for Christ. I am too. I was bought for a PRICE. God Almighty GAVE His life, so that I will live WITH Him for eternity. I know you are being sarcastic, which is a shame, because Christ DIED for YOU, also. But I see that you're REJECTING His FREE gift to you. You may not like the eternity you're going to.
@tipoomaster Good?? You mean they never did anything wrong? There may be some people who won't be thrown into the Lake of Fire, as Referenced in Revelation 20:15. The could be people that never heard of Jesus Christ, including Old Testament people that worshiped God, not knowing who He was. Don't forget, God knows what everyone does, thinks & says. He sees & hears everything. He will be the Supreme Judge when judging their actions & behaviors.
LOVED THIS VIDEO G-D BLESS YOUR WORK MANY DONT BELIVE THIS BUT ITS A FACT AND ITS COMING SOONER THEN MOST THINK PEOPLE NEED TO GET READY JESUS IS COMING SOON
@onetwopussies The Rapture happens 7+ years BEFORE the 2nd Coming. We will go to Heaven, receive our Crowns & Rewards, watch the Coronation of Christ, go to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, then come back WITH Jesus at His 2nd Coming. MARANATHA
@onetwopussies Read Matthew 25:31-46 When Christ comes back at His 2nd Coming (WITH His Bride - us), He sends His ANGELS to "gather" those who are still alive. None of them "MEET CHRIST IN THE AIR". Those who were killed AFTER the Rapture (who believed in Christ but missed the Rapture & the NEW converts) are "resurrected". Revelation 20:4-6. They NEVER meet Christ "in the air", either. Jesus' VOICE sounds like a TRUMPET Revelation 1:10 & 4:1; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18 Rapture is BEFORE 1st Seal
Study the scriptures carefully...Don't just rely on what is taught to you. End time prophecies is really a critical subject since the first warning of Christ is don't be deceived.. Tribulation is an event that will usher the return of Christ. It is not the wrath of God but Satan's wrath on God's people. The DAY OF THE LORD is judgment of satan, antichrist, his false prophets & those who follow abomination.
The tribulation is the event that will usher the return of Christ. The DAY OF THE LORD is a day of reckoning for all the people and judgment of Satan, the antichrist , his false prophets and those who follow their abominable works. The tribulation is not the wrath of God but the wrath of satan for God's people. The Saints are not appointed unto wrath (God's wrath) not tribulation. Jesus will come after the tribulation of those days and will rapture the Saints before God's wrath be poured out.
The rapture occurs at the last trump - Trumpet #7. It occurs in Rev. 14.God's wrath is the vials not the seals and not the trumpets. Rev. 11:18 God's wrath comes after the 1260 day ministry of the 2 witnesses.Everything before is the conditions of the 7 seals.The 6 trumpets ARE the 7th seal.They are the conditions Satan and God agreed to for Christ to redeem the mortgage of earth.Once they are done, Christ reigns supreme. That is at 7th trump when Satan's reign thru the beast ends at 1260 days.
@conniemaew "...and I heard behind me a loud "VOICE like a TRUMPET which said:Write...." Revelation 1:9-20; "...and there before me was a door standing open. And the "VOICE I had first heard speaking to me like a TRUMPET said, ..." Revelation 4:1-5; 1Thessalonians 4:18-18 "Trump of God" "Trumpet call of God" The 7th trumpet is blown by an ANGEL, a trumpet of JUDGMENT. The Rapture happens BEFORE the 1St Seal. We will be IN HEAVEN when Jesus opens the 7 Seals, the OUTLINE of the Great Tribulation
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Good luck with that view. I'm sure you accept all your theology tells you without question. I was taught pre-trib and believed it until I actually started reading my Bible using my brain. Then I found out that view did not line up with the Scriptures. I hope you are ready to die for the Lord anyhow, because if you are under the impression that God will never make you suffer, there are a lot of martyred Christians who would love to tell you what they think of that attitude.
@conniemaew "Die for the Lord??" You don't think anyone has ever "died for the Lord"? The Martyred Christians in Seal & 5 (who were killed during the first 4 Seals) are "backsliders" & new converts for Christ who are dying during the Great Tribulation. Born Again Believers are NOT there. Just like in Rev 4:1 "Come up Here" is like the 2 Witnesses being "resurrected" & "ascend" into Heaven. You surely don't think there's NEVER been any persecustion of Christians at any time????? MARANATHA
@JesusHoldMyHand1 You make no sense. First you say that only backsliders and new converts die, then born again Christian will not die, then you accuse me of saying that there has never been any persecution of Christians? Did you read my post at all? I said that Christians do have to die for the Lord, must be ready to die, will die for the Lord, and that those who have died for the Lord would be pretty upset to hear your attitude that you don't think God would require that of you. He does.
@conniemaew No, I didn't say that. We were talking about the people who die during the Great Tribulation. Millions & millions of people die. A lot of them will be those who missed the Rapture (only the called, chosen & FAITHFUL followers of Jesus will be in the Rapture), new converts to Christ through the witnessing of the 144,000 & the 2 Witnesses who are murdered. NONE OF THOSE CHRISTIANS WILL BE RAPTURED. Now you had said something stupid, asking if I were willing to die for Christ.
@JesusHoldMyHand1 You are expecting to be raptured & not have to die for Christ. It is not a stupid question to ask if you are willing to die. I find that many who believe in a pre-trib rapture think it is not possible it will be required of them & are not spiritually prepared to face that very real possibility. I hate to disappoint you but there is no pre-trib rapture. I have heard teachers of this say there truly is no real Biblical evidence to support it. Are you prepared for the alternative?
@conniemaew Since I have been a Born Again Christian for over 50 Years, I am ready for anything. We've been studying the Rapture since 1965 and it is definately PRE-TRIBULATION. He can come for HIS Bride, Church, Saints, Holy Ones at any moment or in 50 more years. Only He knows when He's coming for us. I suggest you get smart with someone else who doesn't know anything about the Bible, but you're not going to fluster, intimidate or ridicule me. You mock me, you're mocking Jesus Christ
@JesusHoldMyHand1 I'm not trying to get "smart" with you.I have been a Christian for over 50 years too & was brought up on pre-trib.I saw verses that couldn't be reconciled & pastors had no answers so decades ago I embarked on a thorough study of the Bible from Genesis on.I finally realized that we are not exempt from the tribulation. I am concerned that when a pre-trib rapture doesn't happen, people will fall away or believe the beast is Christ. Sorry for trying to warn you. Good luck.
@dano132454 The true defination of "antichrist" is one who is against Christ, or "in place of or instead of Christ". There have been "many" antichrists, just as there is now. When speaking of the beast of Revelation, the lawless one, the man of sin, we have used "THE antichrist" to refer to him. Hitler was indeed AN antichrist, as were & are now those who reject Christ. Hitler very well may have been the one that satan chose, but since the Rapture didn't happen, he had to move on to others.
again you are delusional from 2 thessalonians 2:10 says that exactly i show you exactly where it says we will not all sleep and we will be murdered others say put to death how can you ttake the mark of the beast and been raptured not one thing you say is truth not one thing is biblical its strong delusions hence i show you it says we will be murdered for our faith then you say it dont say that! delusional and you called jeus and the bible a lie read it!
johninitforfun 6 hours ago
mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10 this verse is you and you are on your way to hell you do not have understanding and have strong dilusions the bible does not at all talk of the rapture only the 7th trumpet at the end of revelations jesus return!
johninitforfun 3 days ago
The VID was good but there is no reason for GRAVES to Split open when the dead are risen because the bodies will be the same as Jesus risen body which passed through solid walls & doors so our bodies will do the same, No GRAVES WILL BE SPLIT OPEN AS OUR BODIES WILL PASS THRU THE DIRT & STONE other wise the Vid was good.
MPPFLIPP 3 days ago
there is one rapture and that starts the millenium rain for 1000 years sorry no pre trip or mid trib its not biblical and i rebuke all who tries to justify it as so when jesus says all threw the bible we will be put to death so i can prove it to be a satanic belief and not biblical
johninitforfun 2 weeks ago
@johninitforfun YOur nuts & don't know the Bible very good. A little knowledge has done you more harm that good and led you into BAD DOCTRINES that you learned from other BAD TEACHINGS. If your mind was not so NARROW try searching gracethrufaith dotcom and read & listen to all of his teaching which are literal bible explanations & logic of GOD. You are swallowing satans lie hook, line & sinker. How sad for you. I rebuke your false beliefs & ignorance.
MPPFLIPP 3 days ago
@MPPFLIPP mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10 this verse is you and you are on your way to hell you do not have understanding and have strong dilusions the bible does not at all talk of the rapture only the 7th trumpet at the end of revelations jesus return!
johninitforfun 3 days ago
@MPPFLIPP there read them verses! you will be murdered idiot i know my verses i know the bible i know my lord and the holy spirt you call jesus a liar he told us many times we will be put to death got it so dont tell me to go look at some freaks website trying to manipulate the bible when i just given you very clear evidence we will be murdered and its you 2 thessalonians 2:10 you have strong delusions pal you also dont have the holy spirit as you claim now comment on what i gave you
johninitforfun 3 days ago
@johninitforfun What is to comment on in those verses, they are the same verses constantly given by post trib followers & are applied out of context. I sent you verses N Ur inbox but U have not answered them. instead U send these verses which R apply mostly to the Trib Saints, not the Church or R your fake darts thrown at me as if they could hurt, but they are misapplied. If you can not give some explanation of each 1 why send them? Most don't match or complete a story or meaning. Vague aren't U
MPPFLIPP 19 hours ago
@johninitforfun You send verses like these & you don't imagine your self as being judgmental. What a joke U R. You know what U know but refuse to study any deeper or to look at verses that go against what you think is correct. U say I call Jesus a 'liar". Prove where I did that. YOU ARE THE LIAR. The only saints to be murdered are the Trib Saint not the Church in the Trib. UR confused by your misunderstandings of what U read. All post tribers R like this. They miss 1/2 of the Bible in confusion
MPPFLIPP 19 hours ago
@johninitforfun The Church has been killed for the last 2000 yrs, but in the Trib when GODS WRATH is poured out, it is not on the Church, the BRIDE OF CHRIST. What BRIDEGROOM would punish & kill HIS BRIDE?. You ignore the Promises of GOD to keep us from HIS WRATH as Enoch was b/f the flood. As Lott was b/f Fire fell on Sodom. Rapture examples are all over the Bible. Mat 24/25 is to the Jews & the Trib Saints, not to the Church. But Ur too blind to see & understand. Satan has blinded Ur eyes, SAD
MPPFLIPP 19 hours ago
@johninitforfun the only way a man can manipulate the Bible is when the readers do not confirm what the man says by verifying what the Bible says N Context. Something Ur not very good at, it seems. I read every1's teachings to see if thy say what the Bible says. Some have shown me I had some parts wrong in the past, so I changed my beliefs when I saw these Truths. But, if YOU REFUSE TO READ & LOOK, YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE. It is the Bible that will Change you, if you can understand the difference
MPPFLIPP 19 hours ago
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@johninitforfun "when jesus says all threw the bible we will be put to death so i can prove it to be a satanic belief and not biblical"
I agree, but to be brought to death, according to the Word, means brought-delivered up before the councils(churches) and synagogues of satan who is also called and referred to as "death". Heb 2:14 Jesus tells us not one hair on our head will perish. Luke 21:12-19
Keep and Have the faith of the Patriarchs Heb 11
Peace be with you
RememberPaulRevere 3 days ago
I will not embrace an end-time view:
1) that re-empowers a disempowered devil.
2) that destroys hope for future generations.
... 3) that ignores the command to make disciples of ALL nations.
4) that steals hope for the nations.
5) that changes the nature of a wonderful God.
6) that celebrates bad news as a sign of the times.
goeroeelvis 3 weeks ago
Oh, I'm sorry. Your UN-BIBLICAL rapture fantasy.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10 look they are nuts here is the proof they cant see and look at the dude above me telling me i dont know scripture and i am a devil
johninitforfun 3 days ago
@johninitforfun These people are full of their own pumped-up, delusional self-pride. Thinking that everyone that disagrees with their agenda is evil, demonic, crazy..etc. While they sit in judgement and condemn everyone. (they want people to suffer..especially their detractors and enemies.) If you question their beliefs, they label anyone (even people they don't know) as on their way to hell. Christ is my judge. Not these folks. They twist scripture, much like islam does to promote their agenda.
bheadh 3 days ago
No, sir. look at the posts. yo blast EVERYONE that dissagrees with your little rapture fantasy. I'll pray for you.
bheadh 1 month ago
I get my info from the bible thats it. :)
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01 mathew 25:1 mathew 7:21 mathew 25:31-46 luke 6:46 1 timothy 4:1 1 timothy 6:3-6 2 timothy 3:1-9 1 thessalonians 4:15-18 titus 1:9-11 titus 1:15-16 hosea 4:6 romans 16:17-18 revelations 6:9 mathew 24:9 mark 13:13 luke 21:16 mathew 10:22 2 thessalonians 2:10
johninitforfun 3 days ago
"Love one another as I have loved you" Is calling people "immature" and doubting their faith part of your "rapture religion"? (no love there) It almost seems like you WANT people to suffer. (no skin off my nose, etc) You have no idea who I am, what I've read or not, and you certainly have NO IDEA about my faith. I do NOT doubt Gods word. However it is my prerogative to doubt YOUR word. You are NOT Gods representative on earth. No matter how condescending you are to others. (says alot about you)
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh Listen, i know that your faith is weak at best. I dont want anyone to suffer but when there given information and they dont pay attention or disregard it or whatever then thats on the person. I do my best to proclaim Gods word. I dont claim to know everything and as a human i will make mistakes but i do what i can to reduce them. And your age and mentality shows your lack of knowledge and makes you look immature...so yeah i seem to know a bit about you.
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01..cont... Question your views. I am as old as you if not older. I have had many trials in life. Jesus has lead me through all of them in His peace. I care not what YOU think of me or how you percieve my veiws. You simply did NOT explain where it says in the bible, you claim to know so well, Jesus will return for some, then later come back for everyone else. Which is what this is all about. Despite your constant charcter assasination of me. and your baby-ish tit for tat posts
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh For your info there is no (1) verse that spells out the Rapture, it is like the TRINITY, you need to look at a number of verses to understand it properly. GOD did this to hide it from satan & stupid people. For the same reason JESUE hid some things from those who listened to HIM so they would not hear the Truth. HE does hide some things from those who will not believe. JESUS is coming for some 1st then returning to the earth at the end to separate the wheat from the tares.Which R U?
MPPFLIPP 3 days ago
@JesusDiedforMe01..cont.. that do little good and definitely do not not spread any kind of "Gospel" of the love of Christ. You condemn others that disagree with your veiws and think so much of yourself by claiming how much you "know" in a self-serving and unloving way. (no skin off my nose if..) You use my words to table turn to make yourself look "better than thou" on not only my post, but every one that dissagrees. This is NOT the Gospel of my Lord. I love you and will continue to pray for you
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh Wrong again. I try to help a lot of people. Now my views might seem bad but thats only becuase i use the bible as the standard. For people out their that add or delete stuff from the bible or lean on their own understandings then yeah ill jump on them beucase what their doing is wrong. And proclaiming Gods word (ME) im supposed to give the information and if i can advise a little bit and possibly help someone then so much the better.
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01 Sir, nobody has said anything about "adding or deleting" anything from the bible. Nobody is "leaning on their own understanding "either. You were simply asked to show where you get your info. (John Darby) You have refused to answer this and then regard yourself as some kinda bible "defender". You aren't that either if you can't explain YOURSELF and HOW you come to your conclusion form the verses you quote. You have condescended to me and "others".Look at your response, "I" "me"
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh John Darby was a LATE COMER. Try looking up "EPHRIAM the SYRIAN" 373AD in which he wrote several sermons on the Catching away. Long b/f Darby. There were many teachers thru the ages who taught the Rapture, your just IGNORANT to them as you believe what ever your told by IGNORANT teachers. If your in any manner malleable try reading or listening to some good teaching at gracethrufaith dotcom. He makes it very clear from all the dozens of scriptures in both the Old & New Testaments.
MPPFLIPP 3 days ago
@MPPFLIPP So, everyone that dissagrees with your rapture fantasy is "ignorant" and "stupid"...how Christlike. (NOT) The source document of quotes from St. Ephraim has been challenged and is regarded by mainstream Christianity as a "bought and paid for FRAUD". These "quotes" "found" in 1995 were suspect from the beginning. $500,000.00 was paid to the "researcher" who "found" them by "evangelicals". It's this simple, Christ doesn't return twice, 1st for some and "later" for others. God bless you!
bheadh 3 days ago
@JesusDiedforMe01 Con't "I" "me" "MY" etc. Your pumped up opinion of yourself has shown your true message in just about every post to me and others. You "help" no one by insuting them and their faith whether YOU think it is "wrong" or not. You are NOT a bible AUTHORITY, You are no-ones judge, and with people you don't know you sure have alot of disdain for people you are trying to "help". Take the PLANK out of your eye, so then you can MAYBE can help someone with a splinter in theirs.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh If someone is wrong i WILL correct them whether they like it or not. Im not a bible authority BUT im learning and technically, NO ONE on earth is a 100% bible authority except God and Christ and the angels. You have the pumped up opinion of seeking out people and becuase you dont like what they have to say you think there wrong. Look buddy all i want to do is help where i can and if that means blasting some people then maybe it will wake them up....like you. God Bless
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01 Hey brother keep up your good work, I don't see anything of what our narrow minded 'friend' sees in your comments. MOst post trib thinkers think and act like he does. It must be a disease (mental ) they all have. They hate it when someone who knows the Bible & is guided by the HS tells them so and they make up all types of presumptions about it. It never stops. Satan has blinded them to TRUTH and LOGIC of GODS WORD . You got it right, GOD BLESS Flipp
MPPFLIPP 3 days ago
You've answered nothing. You twist bible verses to further your agenda. The one question you havn't answered is where, ANYWHERE in the bible that Jesus returns 2 times? Once to get some, then another time to get those who've come through the tribulation? It's just not there.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh You must be very young and immature. You just keep reading the Bible and maybe one day you will understand. As for me, I've been a Born Again Christian for over 50 years and Christ KNOWS me very well. That's why I can't wait to see Him in the Rapture. You have a nice night.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Um...Christ knows EVERYBODY "very well". I guess you think because you believe in the "rapture" (by the way, since you're a big bible quoter, where does it say the church is raptured, using the word "rapture", ...not your version of scripture) that you are somehow better or more "special" than others, you aren't. Please get off your high horse and back into your high chair. A message of hate and condemnation is what you push here, again, not very Christlike at all. God bless!
bheadh 1 month ago
Nobody knows when and everything that is happening today is just the start..... the signs are just starting to be revealed.
Alcivevlkyrie 2 months ago
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Alcivevlkyrie 2 months ago
Nobody really knows what the
"rapture" is for certain, hence, the call to "watch". Because Jesus doesn't return twice. It says in the Bible "The dead in Christ shall rise FIRST, then we who REMAIN will be caught up in the air.." These scenarios are dreamt up by these guys to sell books. People should believe in God and not negate His power instead of listening to clowns like LaHaye and others. There will be signs of the "last days" for Christ promised us "I will not leave you orphans".
bheadh 2 months ago
@bheadh Christ does NOT touch the Earth in the Rapture. He is ABOVE the Clouds when He Calls His Faithful to Him. No one else on Earth see Christ & evidently you won't. Jesus VOICE sounds LIKE a Trumpet: Revelation 1:10 & 4:1. In the Rapture He comes WITH Rewards: Revelation 22:12. Now read 2Timothy 4:8 & 1Peter 5:4. At the 2nd Coming Jesus comes WITH a sword. No Rewards. He will KILL His enemies & guess who's WITH Him? Revelation 17:14 & 19:7-20. EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM THEN!!
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Rev. 1:10 His voice sounded like a "trumpet" when He was explaining Jonhs mission "to write to the churches" what does this have to do with the "rapture"? Same thing in 4:1. All the other verse talk about his return. (ONCE) nowhere in the examples you gave does it say He will return for some..and then another time for everyone else. Acts 1:11. "Men of Galilee..why do you stand here looking up at the skies?, this Jesus, who was taken from you, will return, JUST AS you saw Him...
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh This was spoken to the crowd watching Jesus "go up to the heavens" by an ANGEL. I will believe them (the angel and the writers of ACTs before I believe in some "authors" trying to sell books and so-called "preachers" trying to further their agenda..and line their pockets. Ther is no "special" return for some...and then others later. Jesus will return...ONCE and for ALL. God bless you, and I'll pray for you.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh Yes, Just as they saw Him. Hidden by the clouds. Christ loves His Children, His Saints, His Holy Ones, His Bride, His Born-Again Believers. Those who are in the Rapture will NOT suffer His Judgments & Wrath which are going to poured out on the Whole, Unbelieving, Hateful, Unrepentant World. We will be "Home" with Him, then RETURN with Him just as Revelation 17:14 says. We get our Rewards - Revelation 22:12; 2Timothy 4:8; 1Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10; Revelation 3:10 MARANATHA
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 I admire your love for Christ, as I love Him as well. I'll just use one of your examples...they ALL talk about the return of the Lord but NONE of them says he returns TWICE. 2nd Peter 5:4.."when the Chief Shepherd appears you will win for yourselves the unfading crown of glory"..where does it say that Christ returns, gathers some, then comes back for others, on ANY of these quotes? Whatever happened to "the dead in Christ will RISE FIRST then we WHO REMAIN will be caught up...
bheadh 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Your "form" of the "rapture" was dreamt up by John Nelson Darby a defrocked Anglican priest in the 1830s. His contemporaries considered him deranged, but in the religious fanaticism of America at the time..(the "millerites", Joseph Smith, SDAs..etc) his "theory" fit right in. It gives people false hope that they, will somehow be wisked away.while others (usually their enemies) will suffer the torments of the trib. Christ returns ONCE. Those who are living at that time and are
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh Then you don't believe Paul, Jesus, John or even Peter? That's a shame. I think they presented the Rapture in very clear passages, which of course, you don't understand. The Bible was written starting after Christ was murdered in the 1st Century, so you go ahead and believe some false teachers and watch misleading videos all you want. Maybe you'll be Resurrected after the GT. Revelation 20:4-6. Then again, maybe not. I KNOW where I will be, but NOT down here with you. RAPTURE
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Sir, I never condemned you, nor insulted you. In fact I prayed for you and asked Gods blessing upon you. Is this how you treat everyone that disagrees with your "rapture" agenda? You quote the bible very well, but you still have NOT shown ANYWHERE in the scriptures that Christ RETURNS TWICE. You don't know me and don't know what I believe. For you to make condescending comments about someone you don't know isn't very Christlike. In fact Christ asks us not to judge AT ALL.
bheadh 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHandChrist asks us to love one another and lead each other to HIM. You condemn others while considering yourself safe from all harm. Is this what Christ taught? You do not know what my fate will be and cursing someone to evil while you think your protected position will save you from ALL harm is hypocritical. Are you God? do you know the fate of anyone else? And by the way you don't know where you will be unless you can see into the future. Like I said I'll follow Christ and with my
bheadh 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 cont..under the grace of God, will not die. BUT the DEAD IN CHRIST WILL RISE FIRST. as THE BIBLE SAYS. Rev. 3:10"I will keep you safe" doesn't mean going to heaven. It means just what it says, you'll be safe. Go to the very next sentence, "the trial that is comming to THE WHOLE world, to TEST ALL MEN'. (you conveniently left it out) "Hold fast to what you have so that no man may rob you of your crown". My Lord suffered & died for me, Are you willing to do the same for HIM?
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh It's a shame that you don't think anyone's been "tested" during the past 1,950 years!! I've already answered all your questions, so stay down here. It's no skin off my nose. Hope you pass your "testing" ..... too bad you evidently don't believe now, but you will repent during the GT. That's what it's for. For you to repent. Good Day
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@bheadh BTW - "From" also means "Out Of" - No GT for them. Hallelujah!!! Rapture Time.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Keep repeating that to yourself. Maybe it'll come true if you wish on it long enough. I'll have faith in JESUS. Not ANYONE else.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh You dont have faith in Jesus or God you know why? Becuase you dont believe the bible. To doubt Gods word is to doubt God which in turn doubting means to not be faithful..plane and simple.
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDi Don't miss you rapture "plane" Mr. "Simple". Maybe when you learn to spell, people might take you seriously, maybe. Sorry, you asked for that one. God bless. I'll continue to pray for y'all.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh I'm sure Christ is "proud" of your Christian Love?!? That's what I mean by immature. That is what you are..... Very Childish. You need to go through the GT to learn not to "mock" other people & to REPENT. You also should learn some spelling & grammar yourself.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 God bless you sir. It's not your decision to decide who goes through the "GT" and who doesnt. ( you accuse me of mockery) your tit 4 tat additude mirrors your uncompromising position. (without a logical explaination) We are to "test all spirits" and yours is SEVERELY LACKING. It is obvious by your posts that you love to push your agenda but cannot explain it in a Christian manner without insults and condemnation, then you expect people to listen to you? I'll continue to pray4U.
bheadh 1 month ago
@bheadh Its your pergogative to be argumentative and not listen to people who know a LOT and are trying to help you. But thats cool, because God knows what your game is. Basically do this....READ THE BIBLE page by page and ask God to help you understand it and search the internet as well for help. DO NOT add or delete things to the bible. What you think dont make a difference. If you read the bible its very easy to see what its talking about. NO IFF AND OR BUTTS about it.
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01 You're really proud about what you THINK know. You KNOW NOTHING about my faith or if I've read the bible in it's entirety. You have no idea what I need in life. God does, I'll trust HIM to be my guide, not some one insults, condescends and insults I didn't start the name calling and insults. YOU DID. I see on other posts here you do the same thing to others that question your veiws. Listen to you? are you kidding? How could any one listen to someone that belittles those that
bheadh 1 month ago
BTW, I don't answer 4-5-6 email/posts. Send one or don't send any. You're flooding my email inbox.....
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
The panic world wide will most likely be the collapse of the world money markets. The "beast" is the 4 horns of power, political, education, financial and religion, and he who raises the beast from the dead will be type of anti-christ, but not the REAL one as he does not appear until the 6th seal, 6th vial, 6th trumpet and Jesus will not appear until the 7th trumpet.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere Your are WRONG. The 7th Trumpet is one of Judgments. Rev. 11:19 - an earthquake & a great hailstorm. The "Trumpet" you are speaking of is Jesus' VOICE: Revelation 1:10 & 4:1. Jesus comes FOR His FAITHFUL Bride BEFORE the antichrist is revealed in Rev 6. The 2nd half of the Tribulation (Rev 13) starts when the antichrist forces everyone to get his mark/number & declares himself god. I don't know who is teaching you all you errors, but you can read the Bible for yourself.
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
The Bible CLEARLY states When Our Lord and Savior arrives and that is not until AFTER the 7th Trumpet sounds and the two witnesses are called back to Our Father from the dead.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere The Lord Returns at His 2nd Coming AFTER the Rapture, ATER the Great Tribulation. In Rev 17:14, the BRIDE comes back WITH Christ. Same as in Rev. 19:7-20. He then sends out His ANGELS to "gather" all those who are alive, Believers & Non-Believers. Mark 13:26-27; Matthew 25:31-46. After the 2 Witnesses & the 144,000 Believing Jews are Rapture, an ANGEL preaches the Gospel. You had better start reading your Bible & quit listening to false teachers.
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
II Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. 4) who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped: so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
This does not happen until the 6th Trump, 6th Seal, 6th Vial.
Who are God's chosen people? Those who believe in Him and who love Him.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
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johninitforfun 3 days ago
Jesus Tells us we shall STAND, it is God's will that His elect shall do this.
Jesus also tells us exactly the chain of events that will take place in Matt 24. Verse 9 tells us that we shall be delivered up to be afflicted. Mark 13:9-11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither premeditate, but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye, for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere I will ask you: When are we elect? When do we get our inheritance/rewards? Who are the 12 elders who have Crowns in Rev 4:1-5? When did they get their Crowns? Why does Jesus tell the Believing Churches (Christians - Rev. 2 & 3) to REPENT? When does Jesus come WITH His rewards?
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Not sure what any of this has to do with the rapture doctrine, but the 24 Elders according to the Strongs Concordance in the Greek, refers to "members of the Celestial council."
Jesus ONLY approved of 2 churches: Smyrna and Philadelphia. Rev.3:10 "...I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon ALL the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
What is the hour of temptation? Reward is given to those who overcome this test of faith.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere The 24 elders are the 12 Apostles: Matthew 19:28 - The other 12 are Prophets of the Old Testament. We were chosen & elect BEFORE the Creation of the World: Ephesians 1:4-5 & 1:11-12; 1Peter 1:1-2. "When the Chief Shepherd APPEARS you will receive a Crown of Glory..." 1Peter 5:4 (Rapture). Our Rewards are our inheritance: Colossians 3:24; the Old Testament Saints are in the Rapture because Daniel gets his Inheritance then also. Daniel 12:13. Revelation 22:12 RAPTURE!!!!
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
If Jesus Christ and his throne, kingdom are coming here, where do you think to go before He gets here? This "Prior" arrival you claim He will make before His 2nd arrival, tells me those taken in the 1st round are not taken by Jesus Christ as there is NOTHING that tells us this will happen prior to the son of perdition being revealed, so that leaves who else that takes them? Let's STAY Biblical.....prove to me that Jesus tells us He comes 2 times.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere We go to Jesus in the Rapture. He takes us to His Father's House which is IN HEAVEN. We then come back WITH Him when He returns AFTER the GT. He never touches Earth in the Rapture. He's ABOVE the clouds. Every eye will see Him at His 2nd Coming - NOT at the Rapture. Every Scripture I've given you IS THE WORD OF GOD. I wish you much luck during the antichrist's reign (short, but very murderous). Deny the Bible all you want, it's your life & eternity. MARANATHA
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
You can not show me the scripture where JESUS tells of 2 comings. But many are well documented where He warns us of those coming in His stead. I mean its real simple to tell us He plans to "Rapture" up a bunch of folks and then will come back a 2nd time where we all are transfigured after the 7th Trumpet. But that is NOT what He tells us, thus, false doctrine is being taught and many will be deceived.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere John 14:1-3 & Revelation 19:11-15. Each One.
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Thank you for posting, but Neither of these scriptures states Jesus comes twice in the end times. Rev 19:11-15 comes after the 7th Trumpet sounds.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
The taken and those left behind is talking about false prophets if you read the SUBJECT. The word Taken in the Greek is not benevolent, but malevolent.
6 comes before 7, so clearly the events BEFORE 7 is Not Our Lord and Savior Jesus, but would be Anti-christ or INSTEAD of Christ.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere You are absolutely dumbfounded. The antichrist is in Chapter 6:1. Jesus Christ is opening the Seals to HIS JUDGMENTS & WRATH. I feel so very sorry for you. You are in a deep fog, or worse.
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Anti-christ holds many offices. The full bodied/spirited Anti-christ Satan is not revealed until the 666 signs are completed.
I am not dumbfounded nor in a fog. Father's Word is very clear in my mind. If He could love us so much that He sent His only begotten Son to die on the cross for our sins and to defeat death-Satan, those who wish to fly away from the dangers and tribulations ahead, are deceiving themselves. No where in scripture does Father "Fly Away" warriors.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere Do you know and understand that Satan is under complete control of Jesus Christ? Do you know that he can't do ANYTHING WITHOUT Jesus knowing? Do you understand tha JESUS created the Lake of Fire FOR Satan, his angels, his followers, ANYONE who does NOT accept Jesus Christ? Satan gets thrown into the LOF AFTER his main men, the antichrist & the false prophet. You have a lot of reading to do. I suggest you get started!! JESUS WINS & I'LL BE WITH HIM!!!!
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Funny how you can exclaim my lack of faith or knowledge of the Word, when you have YET to prove of Jesus 2 comings? i know it does not exist, so who is in a fog?
It was not my intention to get into a long debate over this, but to point out the TRUTH found in Father's Word, the Holy Bible.
Your videos are very well done, if the rapture FLY AWAY doctrine was removed, they would be more accurate to the Word.
Peace and Love be with you.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere You keep saying "2 comings of Jesus". He does NOT touch Earth at the Rapture. He is ABOVE the clouds, like in Acts 1:9. We go to Him, through the clouds, ABOVE THEM, then go to the Father's House. Do you know where that is? It's IN HEAVEN. No one on Earth sees Him - Only those who meet Him in the air. Read Revelation 3:10. I WILL BE WITH THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. If you think an hour is 60 minutes, YOU ARE WRONG. Soon has been almost 2,000 years! MARANATHA
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
It was not me saying it, but addressed to your references to the elusive 'rapture". The Bible clearly tells us Jesus Christ will not return to earth until after the son of perdition is revealed and during-after the 7th Trumpet sounds and we do not return to Him until THAT time, not before, unless our destiny in our flesh bodies is destroyed prior to that coming.
So without written proof in the Word, many will go to something in the clouds claiming to be Jesus? SCARY!
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Anti-christ comes in prosperous, IN PEACE, beautiful of face. Promising everything under the sun to those who will follow him. His councils will try to convert God's Elect to join them. Father will betray son, Mother betray daughter, neighbor betray neighbor unto Death-Satan. WHY would they do this? Because Our Father in Heaven has WORK for us to do and that is to STAND against the forces of evil and allow the Holy Spirit to speak thru us in order that others might be saved.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
I don NOT deny God's Word as written in the Holy Bible, just FALSE TEACHINGS by those who would deceive God's children.
Rapture doctrine is FALSE and NOT written in the Word of God. WE ARE TO STAND in faith until the end.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere You HAVE been denying God's Word.
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 AMEN BROTHER, THESE POST TRIB FOLKS ARE LIKE SNAKES WHO TWIST ALL THEY SEE WHAT A SHAME THEY HAVE SWALLOWED SATANS DECEPTIVE LIES TO CONFUSE THE CHURCH AND KEEP IT IN DISARRAY, PERHAPS GOD USES IT TO SEPARATE THE TRUE TRUSTERS IN GODS WORD FROM FALSE WOULD-BE BELIEVERS WHO DON'T REALLY BELIEVE GOD OR HIS WORD KEEP UP THE DEFENSE OF THE FAITH & GOD BLESS YOU ( CHECK OUT JACK KELLEY AT. . . gracethrufaith dotcom . . . HE TEACHES LIKE YOU BELIEVE AND IS VERY GOOD FREE MP3
MPPFLIPP 16 hours ago
@MPPFLIPP Thank you; however, many of the post-tribbers are listening and watching false, misleading videos. They don't know (and most don't care) how to separate Rapture Verses from 2nd Coming Verses. They read something here, skip around round, missing everything inbetween. Most of them "hit the ceiling", "pound the walls", curse at us - because we KNOW Christ is coming FOR His Church - Bride BEFORE His Judgments start to fall. Most of them think Revelation is Satan's WRATH!!!!!
JesusHoldMyHand1 5 hours ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Right on, it blows my mind how so many folks who claim to be in CHRIST can be so wrong in their understandings. Though I can not judge for sure, I almost think most of them are lost as their 'Fruit" is "bad fruit" from a Bad Tree. You say truth. It is really good to see another believer sharing the Gospel to the LOST and standing up to these misinformed people. The real problem is their too narrow minded to read what is sent to them. So, they never learn more. Sad. GOD BLESS.
MPPFLIPP 3 hours ago
@MPPFLIPP Most of the time, you don't even have to "interpret" anything .... it's as clear as ever. It never to ceases to amaze me as to how many think they NEED to be persecuted. Jesus Christ NEVER persecutes His Church - His Believers - His Saints. Where they get that, I'll never know. Discipline, yes - Persecute, no. I just wonder if they also think Jesus pesecuted all the Apostles that were murdered. They'd probably say "yes" - they needed it. I don't think they KNOW Christ
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 hours ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Our Father loves His children and promises to protect us. There is nothing to fear. Just as the Israelites during Moses time, were shielded from the plagues of Egypt, so shall God's elect be. They can not harm one hair on our head, unless it is Father's will they do so!
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Funny how not one word called "rapture" can be found in the Bible, yet so many follow it. Just amazes me.
The KEY to understanding Father's Word is knowing what the "subject" is at the beginning of the chapters and NOT taking them out of context. This method simplifies The Word where even a child can understand or an adult like myself, who for years did not understand the Truth and Meaning of the letter Father sent to us.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
@RememberPaulRevere Oh yes, it is. Harpazo = Greek. Rapere = Latin. Meaning: to snatch away quckly - 1Thessalonians 4:13-18; 1Corinthinans 15:50-54. A twinkling of an eye is about 1/6 of a nanosecond. Faster than a "blink" of an eye. Jesus comes for us in John 14:1-3. He "receives" us - We go to Him. Above the clouds. That's why His VOICE sounds like a "Trumpet". Now, like I said before, you're not reading the Bible. You're letting someone spoon feed you, and they're WRONG......
JesusHoldMyHand1 3 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Judah is but ONE tribe, what about the other tribes of ISRAEL or those who believe in God and Our Savior Jesus Christ? Are you now judging who God's Elect will be?
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
Well, I was really enjoying your series until the deception of the rapture was given. How disappointing.
RememberPaulRevere 3 months ago
Aren't we there? "on the brink of an uncertain and frightful future"...? Have a look at the economies of Europe... The U.S. is now involved in it's longest war ever..with no end in sight...even though the President said b4 taking office that he would end the war in Iraq in 6 months. They have slowly turned our country into a police state while the vast majority (mabe half-vast) of the people sit at home and watch "American Idol". I have a feeling things are going to start alot faster now. Time..
bheadh 4 months ago
just wondering if i dont get taken up in the rapture does that mean im going to hell ?? I do believe in jesus always have done, But sometimes i do bad things like most.
i8thegoverment 5 months ago
@i8thegoverment If you believe in Jesus Christ, asked Him to forgive you of your sins & repent (complete change of heart, realizing those sins were wrong) then you are saved. The only way you can miss the Rapture is if you are living in sin when the Rapture happens: living with a lover, having children out of wedlock, lying, stealing, involved in false religions, NOT being FAITHFUL to Jesus, homosexuality, etc. During the Great Tribulation all Christians that were left behind WILL repent.
JesusHoldMyHand1 5 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ok i see what you mean but isnt most people living in sin ?. I think i have change dramatically but we all have bad thought, And do small things wrong, Like drinking to much and stuff. I have 3 children with my partner of 10 yrs we are not married because im to shy to stand infront of people and do it. surely jesus will not punish us for that. I thought he died on the cross to forgive us of our sins because all people sin. i have prayed to jesus to b forgiven
i8thegoverment 5 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 ok i see what you mean but isnt most people living in sin ?. I think i have change dramatically but we all have bad thought, And do small things wrong, Like drinking to much and stuff. I have 3 children with my partner of 10 yrs we are not married because im to shy to stand infront of people and do it. surely jesus will not punish us for that. I thought he died on the cross to forgive us of our sins because all people sin. i have prayed to jesus to b forgiven
i8thegoverment 5 months ago
@i8thegoverment You think living with a lover for 10 years is NOT a sin? You think it's OK to God that you are living in "sexual immorality"? Please read 1Corinthians 6:12-20 When you are a Christian, you are to REPENT, (turn away from sin & have a complete change of heart). God wants you to do what He instructed us to do. Get Married. After you read 1Corinthians ask yourself this: Am I being FAITHFUL to Christ? Please don't put off what you're supposed to do & ask the Lord to forgive you.
JesusHoldMyHand1 5 months ago
@i8thegoverment I might also add, when people Accept Christ as their Savior, becoming a Born Again Christian, it is NOT acceptable to the Lord to CONTINUE killing people, stealing, lying, cheating, having affairs, killing unborn babies, worshiping other gods, dabbling in false religions, etc. We are to live a HOLY, FAITHFUL life unto the Lord. If a person does sin (which everyone does), ask for forgiveness right away. Don't let your sins keep adding up over a week, year, decade, decades....
JesusHoldMyHand1 5 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 thank you for your comments
i8thegoverment 5 months ago
@i8thegoverment no. it's a wake up time to repent. After the tribulation, if you did not take the mark of the beast, you will go to heaven. But you have to do the works of Jesus in that time. To be honest with you, it's gonna be harder than ever since the antichrist will burn all bibles. Repent and sin no more.
purewhitedaisy24 5 months ago
No man knows the day or hour when Jesus will return not even the angels in heaven, only the father. AMEN
trust20001 6 months ago
There's two kinds of people who believe the world will end in 2012. 1. People who collect disability because their mentally ill. 2. People who should be collecting disability because they are mentally ill. I just cant wait to hear their excuse why we are still here in 2013.
beeferetown 6 months ago
@eddienickels1 Amen brother, I believe in the Church invisible. I can also see how all roads are leading to Rome, especially in the pentecostal movements now. Did you know that Rick Joyner is part of the order of the Knights of Malta?
Stayfit4health 6 months ago
@eddienickels1 You still a pentecostal?
Stayfit4health 6 months ago
@eddienickels1 Cheers Eddie, unfortunately more and more of the churches are made up of these pseudo christians.
Stayfit4health 6 months ago
Rapture is coming very very soon! Repent and make sure Jesus is your lord and savior. Seek Jesus everyday. God bless
bass109 7 months ago
This is wrong. When Christs returns and raises the dead and catches up the living to meet him in the air, the whole earth will see and mourn. Christ is coming with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God. Every eye shall see him. 2 Peter 3:10 tells us that the heavens will depart with a great noise, and the earth will melt with a fervent heat. We also know that the wicked will perish at the brightness of his coming. The secret rapture is a lie.
Stayfit4health 7 months ago
@Stayfit4health No, it is not wrong. You don't seem like you know the difference between Christ coming FOR His FAITHFUL Church, Bride, Believers, Saints, Holy Ones & the 2nd Coming, which are 2 DIFFERENT events. Read 1Thessalonians 4:13-15; 1Corinthians 15:50-54; John 14:1-4 for the Rapture. Only those who are in the Rapture see Jesus at that time. All others will see Him when we return WITH Him at His 2nd Coming. Revelation 17:4 & 19:7-20 In the Rapture He comes as a thief VS. in Glory
JesusHoldMyHand1 6 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Unfortunately you try to divide the same event. Christ is coming back the way he left, with clouds of angels, every eye is going to see him. He is not coming back invisibly, that is a heresy brought in to the church by John Darby.
Stayfit4health 6 months ago
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; IN WHICH THE HEAVENS WILL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE AND THE EARTH SHALL MELT WITH A FERVENT HEAT. This verse alone makes it clear what happens when he comes as a thief.
Stayfit4health 6 months ago
@Stayfit4health Do you know how many years are after the semi-colon? Quite a few....as Jesus Christ comes for His FAITHFUL Bride, then all Hell breaks out on Earth. The New Heaven & New Earth are AFTER THE 1,000 year reign of Christ. It's called ETERNITY.
JesusHoldMyHand1 6 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 That excuse is not good enough. It makes it very clear that when he comes as a thief, everyone is going to know about it. We know in Rev that when he comes every eye shall see him. Your dispensational theology was derived by jesuit priests back in the day to take Rome out of the pivture as being antichrist.
Stayfit4health 6 months ago
@Stayfit4health Excuse. You don't know God very well, do you? I'll pray for you.
JesusHoldMyHand1 6 months ago
@Adamillionaire123 Mental retardation is no exception, I will not engage in your stupidity ALLAH FOR LIFE!!!
buktomsin 7 months ago
God is not real... nor these bogus doomsday prophecies. They fail over and over and over when will society learn!? agh well who knows, and plz dont try and scare me with im going to hell, even when i was a theist I did scholarly work and concluded there is NO hell. Thats why NO christian can prove it using the OT. but idc god isn't real and that brings me peace and happiness :D -sincerely from the grave
buktomsin 7 months ago
@buktomsin Do all the scholarly work you want, you're not going to deny Christ WITHOUT Judgment. You will one day stand before the God who created EVERYTHING we can see & can not see. You will hang your head low & try to explain to Jesus Christ why you REJECTED Him. You are blind, deaf & foolish. You and ONLY you will receive what YOU are due. One of these days, you may see the error of your ways, but until then, your final destination is the Lake of Fire. Revelation 21:7-8 Praying for you
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 You have an unsubstantiated premise... which deems your words invaild or without truth. After proving to me there is a god, then you could give me all the cultish babble you want. Until then, I will live my life in reality. You must discern, your folklore is as valid to me, as is mine, to YOU; After your bodily demise you will be drowned in a pourage of deer legs and peanuts and cooked by the ALMIGHTY PINK UNICORN! Do you now see how much that shit, actually encumbers my brain?
buktomsin 7 months ago
@buktomsin Who do you think sculpted all the round planets and hung them in the atmosphere? Who made the sun, moon & stars & keeps them from falling down? Who made gravity, plant, animal & human DNA; all different, DNA locks; who made the oceans & EVERYTHING in them, who made the mountains, wheat, oats, corn, flowers, grass, trees, insects, animals, sand, dirt? Who made our nervous system, digestive system, beating heart, brain, hair, toes? I'll tell you who: OUR CREATOR - Jesus made YOU
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Okay well assumptions without evidence have no validity so why bother with your babble, your question fails at it's premise the same question can be inferred simply put "What made etc..." you and I only know the facts as humans, big bang for solar bodies and evolution for terrestrial matters, anything beyond is unsubstantiated claims from the science view and the cultish BS. The difference is science makes claims that are backed up by evidence, "God did it" ..
buktomsin 7 months ago
@buktomsin says NOTHING.
buktomsin 7 months ago
@buktomsin An artist paints a beautiful painting; a tailor designs an exquisite suit; a GM factory worker makes a car. Now, let's say you want a new swimming pool for your backyard. You just think about it & poof, it's there? You want a new car instead of your 10 year old one. How long will it take to "evolve" into a new one? Everyday & night you see God's handiwork. You don't appreciate or acknowledge His creativity, His majestic use of colors, His design of our Universe.....You're blind
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Yes humans design objects, with matter that pre-exists, with a "Trial and error" technique, just like evolution just like the big bang, thats why evolution creates stupid things well the big bang. Such as the mother spider that gives birth and allows her babies to eat her and her life is over, unlike other spiders that simply find food for their young. Now, the big bang presents us with a huge universe with much chaos and destruction stars imploding and galaxies being destroyed
buktomsin 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Our own planet with disease and strife and natural disasters all around! And you say "see obvious sign of a designer"... HA at best a retarded creator god who seems to like things with MUCH destruction involved. Don't be fooled if you cherry pick nice things about the universe yes a designer seems nice, more of an emotional appeal though, but I dare you to attempt to mesh all the attributes nice and BAD. Then you'd come out with the idea that thinks, "Hey this creator is DUMB!"
buktomsin 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 "If there are any marks at all of special design in creation, one of the things most evidently designed is that a large proportion of all animals should pass their existence in tormenting and devouring other animals." --John Stuart Mill
And if your that ignorantly confused, watch a damn baby grow in the womb, thats how nature works you dumbshit. And NO god isn't pointing a wand saying grow baby grow! If he is he must be accountable for all the dead fetus' blastocysts etc
buktomsin 7 months ago
@buktomsin "Before I formed you in the womb, I KNEW YOU....." Jeremiah 1:5 "For you created my inmost being, you KNIT me together in my Mother's womb." Psalm 139:13 God knew us BEFORE WE WERE BORN - "For He chose us in Him BEFORE cration of the world...." Ephesians 1:4 "In love He PREDESTINED us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ." Ephesians 1:5 "In Him we were also chosen, having been PREDESTINED according to the plan of Him who works out everything..." Ephesians 1:11
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Yes please go back to your unprovable holy book, was that the torah? koran? bravook? lol nuff said.
buktomsin 7 months ago
@buktomsin You are speaking directly from the mouth of satan. Feel better?? I will KNOW the Truth in Heaven & you will be FEELING the Truth in Hell. Good Luck to you. You still have time to Repent & ask Jesus to forgive you......
JesusHoldMyHand1 7 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 After our brain dies our body dies and we're gone... grow up. And if I were to pick a prophet to repent to, it would be a much better and nicer one than jesus, he seems to have a dislike toward pigs :D
buktomsin 7 months ago
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youneekk 8 months ago
ahahahahaha...you are a troll aren't you?
you can't be real.
MrLlud 9 months ago
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@MrLlud I'm just telling you the TRUTH. You have the right to reject it all you want, but keep in mind that if you do, you will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire. Good Luck to You.
JesusHoldMyHand1 9 months ago
There is no rapture in the bible...this is a concept introduced by the American Evangelists twisting what they read.
MrLlud 9 months ago
@MrLlud Rapture = Greek Harpazo....Latin Rapere...1Thessalonians 4:13-18 & 1Corinthians 15:50-54 & John 14:1-4
JesusHoldMyHand1 9 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 That's how you read in the US? no wonder you see flying donkeys.
Example
Slave=servus(lat.) SouAos(gr.)
'Paulus servus Christi Iesu' 'Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus'
APOSTOLI AD ROMANOS EPISTULA SANCTI PAULI 1,1
The bible is a diary about someone called Paul, at that time slave of MrJesus.
Let's make a nmber of video on youtube saying THE TRUTH about what the bible really is....yuppi!!!
MrLlud 9 months ago
@MrLlud We are to be slaves for Christ. Dedication, Obedience, Beliefs, Preaching the Gospel, Working for the Lord are just a few things we are to be doing. Yes, Paul said he was a Slave for Christ. I am too. I was bought for a PRICE. God Almighty GAVE His life, so that I will live WITH Him for eternity. I know you are being sarcastic, which is a shame, because Christ DIED for YOU, also. But I see that you're REJECTING His FREE gift to you. You may not like the eternity you're going to.
JesusHoldMyHand1 9 months ago
What about people who were good and died but weren't christians?
tipoomaster 9 months ago
@tipoomaster Good?? You mean they never did anything wrong? There may be some people who won't be thrown into the Lake of Fire, as Referenced in Revelation 20:15. The could be people that never heard of Jesus Christ, including Old Testament people that worshiped God, not knowing who He was. Don't forget, God knows what everyone does, thinks & says. He sees & hears everything. He will be the Supreme Judge when judging their actions & behaviors.
JesusHoldMyHand1 9 months ago
LOVED THIS VIDEO G-D BLESS YOUR WORK MANY DONT BELIVE THIS BUT ITS A FACT AND ITS COMING SOONER THEN MOST THINK PEOPLE NEED TO GET READY JESUS IS COMING SOON
TheSteveie37 9 months ago
The Rapture as you people call it WILL ONLY happen after the Tribulation.
People who teach the Rapture before the Tribulation period are unlearned about Scripture.
onetwopussies 10 months ago
@onetwopussies The Rapture happens 7+ years BEFORE the 2nd Coming. We will go to Heaven, receive our Crowns & Rewards, watch the Coronation of Christ, go to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, then come back WITH Jesus at His 2nd Coming. MARANATHA
JesusHoldMyHand1 10 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Not so. The Rapture happens after the Tares have been weeded out first and then the Wheat is gathered last.
The Evil is taken out of the way first and those left behind are the ones who then have their bodies transformed.
onetwopussies 10 months ago
@onetwopussies Read Matthew 25:31-46 When Christ comes back at His 2nd Coming (WITH His Bride - us), He sends His ANGELS to "gather" those who are still alive. None of them "MEET CHRIST IN THE AIR". Those who were killed AFTER the Rapture (who believed in Christ but missed the Rapture & the NEW converts) are "resurrected". Revelation 20:4-6. They NEVER meet Christ "in the air", either. Jesus' VOICE sounds like a TRUMPET Revelation 1:10 & 4:1; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18 Rapture is BEFORE 1st Seal
JesusHoldMyHand1 10 months ago
Study the scriptures carefully...Don't just rely on what is taught to you. End time prophecies is really a critical subject since the first warning of Christ is don't be deceived.. Tribulation is an event that will usher the return of Christ. It is not the wrath of God but Satan's wrath on God's people. The DAY OF THE LORD is judgment of satan, antichrist, his false prophets & those who follow abomination.
macynthia05 10 months ago
The tribulation is the event that will usher the return of Christ. The DAY OF THE LORD is a day of reckoning for all the people and judgment of Satan, the antichrist , his false prophets and those who follow their abominable works. The tribulation is not the wrath of God but the wrath of satan for God's people. The Saints are not appointed unto wrath (God's wrath) not tribulation. Jesus will come after the tribulation of those days and will rapture the Saints before God's wrath be poured out.
macynthia05 10 months ago
The rapture occurs at the last trump - Trumpet #7. It occurs in Rev. 14.God's wrath is the vials not the seals and not the trumpets. Rev. 11:18 God's wrath comes after the 1260 day ministry of the 2 witnesses.Everything before is the conditions of the 7 seals.The 6 trumpets ARE the 7th seal.They are the conditions Satan and God agreed to for Christ to redeem the mortgage of earth.Once they are done, Christ reigns supreme. That is at 7th trump when Satan's reign thru the beast ends at 1260 days.
conniemaew 11 months ago
@conniemaew "...and I heard behind me a loud "VOICE like a TRUMPET which said:Write...." Revelation 1:9-20; "...and there before me was a door standing open. And the "VOICE I had first heard speaking to me like a TRUMPET said, ..." Revelation 4:1-5; 1Thessalonians 4:18-18 "Trump of God" "Trumpet call of God" The 7th trumpet is blown by an ANGEL, a trumpet of JUDGMENT. The Rapture happens BEFORE the 1St Seal. We will be IN HEAVEN when Jesus opens the 7 Seals, the OUTLINE of the Great Tribulation
JesusHoldMyHand1 11 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 Good luck with that view. I'm sure you accept all your theology tells you without question. I was taught pre-trib and believed it until I actually started reading my Bible using my brain. Then I found out that view did not line up with the Scriptures. I hope you are ready to die for the Lord anyhow, because if you are under the impression that God will never make you suffer, there are a lot of martyred Christians who would love to tell you what they think of that attitude.
conniemaew 11 months ago
@conniemaew "Die for the Lord??" You don't think anyone has ever "died for the Lord"? The Martyred Christians in Seal & 5 (who were killed during the first 4 Seals) are "backsliders" & new converts for Christ who are dying during the Great Tribulation. Born Again Believers are NOT there. Just like in Rev 4:1 "Come up Here" is like the 2 Witnesses being "resurrected" & "ascend" into Heaven. You surely don't think there's NEVER been any persecustion of Christians at any time????? MARANATHA
JesusHoldMyHand1 11 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 You make no sense. First you say that only backsliders and new converts die, then born again Christian will not die, then you accuse me of saying that there has never been any persecution of Christians? Did you read my post at all? I said that Christians do have to die for the Lord, must be ready to die, will die for the Lord, and that those who have died for the Lord would be pretty upset to hear your attitude that you don't think God would require that of you. He does.
conniemaew 11 months ago
@conniemaew No, I didn't say that. We were talking about the people who die during the Great Tribulation. Millions & millions of people die. A lot of them will be those who missed the Rapture (only the called, chosen & FAITHFUL followers of Jesus will be in the Rapture), new converts to Christ through the witnessing of the 144,000 & the 2 Witnesses who are murdered. NONE OF THOSE CHRISTIANS WILL BE RAPTURED. Now you had said something stupid, asking if I were willing to die for Christ.
JesusHoldMyHand1 11 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 You are expecting to be raptured & not have to die for Christ. It is not a stupid question to ask if you are willing to die. I find that many who believe in a pre-trib rapture think it is not possible it will be required of them & are not spiritually prepared to face that very real possibility. I hate to disappoint you but there is no pre-trib rapture. I have heard teachers of this say there truly is no real Biblical evidence to support it. Are you prepared for the alternative?
conniemaew 11 months ago
@conniemaew Since I have been a Born Again Christian for over 50 Years, I am ready for anything. We've been studying the Rapture since 1965 and it is definately PRE-TRIBULATION. He can come for HIS Bride, Church, Saints, Holy Ones at any moment or in 50 more years. Only He knows when He's coming for us. I suggest you get smart with someone else who doesn't know anything about the Bible, but you're not going to fluster, intimidate or ridicule me. You mock me, you're mocking Jesus Christ
JesusHoldMyHand1 10 months ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1 I'm not trying to get "smart" with you.I have been a Christian for over 50 years too & was brought up on pre-trib.I saw verses that couldn't be reconciled & pastors had no answers so decades ago I embarked on a thorough study of the Bible from Genesis on.I finally realized that we are not exempt from the tribulation. I am concerned that when a pre-trib rapture doesn't happen, people will fall away or believe the beast is Christ. Sorry for trying to warn you. Good luck.
conniemaew 10 months ago
hitler wasnt an antichrist. he was just crazy. what kind of antichrist would kill himself.
dano132454 11 months ago
@dano132454 The true defination of "antichrist" is one who is against Christ, or "in place of or instead of Christ". There have been "many" antichrists, just as there is now. When speaking of the beast of Revelation, the lawless one, the man of sin, we have used "THE antichrist" to refer to him. Hitler was indeed AN antichrist, as were & are now those who reject Christ. Hitler very well may have been the one that satan chose, but since the Rapture didn't happen, he had to move on to others.
JesusHoldMyHand1 11 months ago