Tim Montgomerie and Donal Blaney argue on Pinochet

[elycurly24]

what a load of rubbish this show is, nothing excuses murder, full stop.after pinochet CHile had a 20 years of leftist government in the country, with no murder record, and it was nothing like cuba!!now they have a right wing government and are things better?

[BaronVonAlucard]

@elycurly24 Chile did not have 20 years of Socialists after Pinochet. President Aylwin was not a Socialist in fact he supported the coup, President Frei was not a socialist either him and his father also supported the coup. Socialist President Lagos is responsible for the biggest corruption scandal in Chile with the MOP Gate and President Bachelet increased poverty and managed the tragedy of the earthquake horribly where hundreds of people died due to the lack of response & they weren't Marxists

[elycurly24]

@BaronVonAlucard did I mention anywhere in my comment anything of what you are saying? did I ?try to comprehend better,I grew up in Chile, you will not tell me how is my homeland to begin with, no country is ever prepared for a disaster, or will you tell me that bush was more prepared with "catrina" , or thailand with the tsunami, no government is ever prepared. and I'm not talking about left or right here, all I mention that there is not excuse for murder, that's it.Period , no excuses!

[BaronVonAlucard]

@elycurly24 You did mention what I corrected you with. You said "CHile had a 20 years of leftist government" which is not true. Aylwin and Frei were not 100% Left and the ones that were are responsible for the biggest scandals are poor direction of the country.

Things are better now in Chile

No excuse for murder? Do you not know what the DEATH PENALTY is? Especially for terrorists? Dont be a hypocrite and dont compara natural disasters with man made disasters like Allendes disaster

Foolish

[elycurly24]

@BaronVonAlucard yes leftist government , because they where the coalition, and involved every party that was not right wing, that meant that it was the center to the left. yet, I did not mention socialist, you did. again learnt how to read... furthermore, no , I do not agree with capital punishment, or any punishment that violates life. No the country is not any better, just look at the income per capita, and then we can talk, get involved with history, open your eyes,then lets see who's fool.

[BaronVonAlucard]

@elycurly24 Aylwin and Frei were not center-left either remember that they supported the coup they were center-right. The Concertacion was made to defeat Hernán Büchi without that coalition Büchi would've won. I know plenty of history especially since 1810 till now, and Chile income per capita is one of the highest in Latin America. By the way where is that coalition now? Completely lost.

Stop making a mockery out of yourself.

[elycurly24]

Respond to this video... and by the way is compare not compara as we are not speaking in "castellano" the nerve to call me foolish!!hahahha

[BaronVonAlucard]

@elycurly24 one small typo is all you can concentrate on? ok. must not have anything relevant to say.

[tooyjfwn]

t.m. is a fuckwit and a tosser who has opinions for money.

[formworksucks]

They have stained the honour of our glorious military. Imbeciles point to the fact that Pinochet saved the economy. He had never heard of Milton Friedman and his Chicago boys!!!! If Allende had been voted out, there's no reason why we couldn't have introduced similar or better policies, like eliminating a fixed currency which gave us the terrible recession of '82 '84. Many loyal officers were killed by the traitors for not supporting the coup. These magnificent men should be remembered.

[ProjectoMayhem]

2,000+ people in 17 years. And people cry like it's some sort of Holocaust. Please, more people commit suicide in 2 years than that! And for what? Certainly not for nothing, Chile is now a prosperous country in the region

2,000+ people who were NOT all innocent. There were several terrorist groups in the 70s, 80s and even 90s who were armed and died in gun battles against the police or militarty and sometimes used women and children as shields

Chile is great right now thanks to Pinochet.

[ProjectoMayhem]

@JAVIeyzaguirre Europeo? Aweonao soy Chileno y se muchísima historia.

[JAVIeyzaguirre]

@ProjectoMayhem No me interesa saber lo que sabes o no y porfavor no me respondas de vuelta CHANO.

[JAVIeyzaguirre]

@ProjectoMayhem No solo queria dejar un punto en claro y eso perra, pero no, no me estoy escapando. Si te gusta Pinochet esta bien pero Chile no es lo que es gracias a él.

[ProjectoMayhem]

@JAVIeyzaguirre Como que el Chile de hoy no es gracias a Pinochet?!^%#$*@

Que acaso Allende impuso el sistema neoliberal en Chile? Que acaso Allende privatizo la salud y el sistema de pensiones en Chile? Todo eso fue gracias a Pinochet, lo mismo con la inversión extranjera y la Constitución. El congreso. El mismo Peso Chileno fue puesto por Pinochet con Allende existía el Escudo.

El Chile que tenemos ahora es el Chile que quería Pinochet y no el Chile de Allende. Como mierda puedes negar eso!!

[raderator]

Pinochet killed about 1K commie terrorists. BTW, Hitler was elected too. But unlike Allende, his economic reforms were a success.

[tooyjfwn]

Wow, donal is REALLY fat there.

[joralba1]

pinochet a disgraceful piece of feces....I am against capital punishment but if there was ever a case for it, it would support the public hanging of pinochet.

He has brought so much shame to the Chilean people...they should construct a museum of criminals and he would be the principal example of the worst criminal in the history of Chile....What a piece of dung...

[drones200]

@joralba1 Wow how hyprocritical of you. Is funny how your blatantly against one thing but are willing to support it in certain cases. Can't you make the same case for Pinochet? Because any pragmatist here with 2 fingers infront of his face will say that hes measures were necesssary to stop the expansion of communism in Chile.

Same thing as Franco, Soviet and US influence ran deep during the cold war in all central/south american nations.

[mykacike86]

@joralba1 and he never said sorry ahahah lol good on him lol

[davidchile007]

pinochet : heroe anticomunism

[nigokid]

GRACIAS MI GENERAL

THANK YOU MY GENERAL FOR SAVING CHILE

he will be remebered as a great hero.

he saved chile from the communist dictatorship.

Even the actual goverment (that is from the left) kept the 1980 constitution (created by general pinochet).

[lunaix]

They also kept the financial policies he used! look at chile now, one of the best, if not the best performing south american country and an oecd candidate!

[MasterSasha1]

The only good Communist is a dead Communist.

Glory to Pinochet!!

[nigokid]

I agree with you 100%.

[edj66]

Donal Blaney is a fat idiot.

[koeniggraetzer]

chucha estos son ingleses...buena al final la misma mierda...yankis e inlgeses...

[koeniggraetzer]

these yankis have the impudence to say...pinochet el gran dictador...damn yankis is the guilty of the coup d'etat in Chile. the corrupt and killer government nixon and to kissinger, took to Chile to hell and put to pinochet in the power.

yankis hijos de puta.

grengo good is grengo dead!

[Miggins88]

What the fuck are they arguing about? It was in the interests of American national security to provide support for the Pinochet regime to prevent Chile from becoming a soviet satellite. That does not in any way excuse Pinochet from his many serious crimes. He was a horrible man end of. Sometimes we need to back horrible dictators. The national security of America should be the priority of the US government, not human rights abuses in foreign countries.

[drizztf88]

Pinochet ROT IN HELL. Fat guy FUCK YOU!

[twizzer88]

Doesn't matter that Allende was elected? Of course the economy was better under Pinochet because the US lifted their sanctions then!

[nigokid]

did you know that 729 people died under allende?, in only 3 years?...

so yea...fuck you.

[flazor]

Five guys... yeah that's right...

How much is two plus two... ten, don't even think about it, it's ten. It has been proven by people who need it to be ten, so don't question it...

Congratulations, you know math now too

[coolguypersonguy]

maybe ten, ok im wrong there, I admit it, but wait look below, ive proven you WRONG for all of your other accusations cause you know they've been proven WRONG!!

[flazor]

This is it... you know nothig that's it...

Bodygards is what they told you, what do you think they were going to tell you??? GAP fully loaded people armed by russia and cuba... NOOO you are cracy, GAP were a group of dancers, white pigeons, SANTA CLAUS...

Wonderful information received, congratulations... I can tell you are an american, because you buy everything.

[coolguypersonguy]

??Me an american, if i was american i would be agreing with you. THe CIA admitted that GAP and all those groups they called terrorist were lies, cause THEY (the CIA) funded The propogands Funny thing is, you got NOTHING cause everything you claim has been proven WRONG by the US Officials and British OFficials who also took part. Lastly, Im Chilean/Ecaudorian. By the Way GAP was made up of less then FIVE bodygaurds, Why donn't you get you facts straight and do some research.

[flazor]

If it wasn't for Pinochets goverment we would have had a horrible time here in Chile. People from the left wing try and make big efforts to avoid this true because for them is really hard to know that history will judge them really bad.

Stupid left winggers, can you tell me why Chile grew so fast during Pinochet's goverment?

[coolguypersonguy]

ya i can tell you, during allendes rule, the USA put an economic blockade against Chile forbidding the world bank and the IMF to help chile, factories and companies in Chile owned by right-wing elites stopped production and were compensated by the CIA, this is all true, CIA agents have admitted it and actually released these documents

[flazor]

Ok, but can you tell me why should Chile have needed help from the IMF if, as you have been told, Allende was shuch a wonderfull president.

Did they tell you that the companies were owned by the goverment? I don't think so. Have you herd about the GAP (Grupo de Amigos del Presidente) an armed group very good friends of the president. Have you herd about terrorism? Do you know what in hell is it? well that's what your people (left wingers) helped here in Chile and Pinochet kick their butts.

[coolguypersonguy]

actually, not all the companies were owned by the government, the mining and telecommunication sector was nationalized. Now yes ive heard of GAP, but they were the presidents bodygaurds, what terrorism did they commit. Want to know terroristm, how about the Patria y Libertad the fascist group funded by the CIA that sabotaged railways, pipelines and food supply depots and other utilities? Now comes the big question, if allende was so bad, how come in a congress election in 1972 he gained seats

[TheUNSCspartanClan]

@flazor Stupid Right wing pig.

[sheshdd]

try watching a documentary called "The War on Democracy",it's on google video and it shows how the US government has ALWAYS messed with latin american democracies.so Pinochet?Videla?and so on,they're not heroes,they're fucking puppets!

[sheshdd]

And if you want to know what really happened,inform yourself,an opinion is not really valid if you only see one side of the story.I know communism has murderes millions thoughout history,and i don't agree with those methods,but you don't see me in denial about this whole situation.Right wing?Left wing?by now it's the same shit,they both wan't the same thing.they want power,they want to control,and they want to divide us.

[sheshdd]

it's really funny to see how fucking ignorant people are,and most funny is that they just believe what they're told by the mainstream media.So we get a bunch that say "pinochet saved us from allende,allende bankrupted the nation",but they don't see the massive propaganda sponsored by the CIA,everything that happened in chile was planned long before and Pinochet was just the guy in the front,there's no fucking way he would have pulled it off withoud the CIA help.

[fachcondor]

An example was RODRIGO ANFRUNS, the poor boy was even tortured and then killed by PINOCHET'S agents.

[nigokid]

agents...not his fault, not his orders, jerk

[fachcondor]

poor nazi bastard, of course they follow orders, they were military.

[nigokid]

jackass of course u didnt live here in times of allende...

[fachcondor]

poor faggot, you didnt live in times of

Frei Montalva, and Alesandri,

Sucker!

[nigokid]

uuu yes i did, and they sucked just as bad as allende, corruption, violence, no punishment for the criminals...(i said the allende thing as a bad thing...)

[fachcondor]

HAHAHA!,

You are 25 years old and you lived in times

of Frei and Allesandri?

you are lying like your beloved dictator

Pinochet,

poor asshole.

[nigokid]

I just created the account quickly, not many people put their real birthdates on the internet you know?...

[THEBULLANGUEROCK]

My conclusion is...

Pinochet prevented Chile of becoming a second Cuba (I think most of people know what are Cuba's conditions today, and I also think that communism is the worst type of government and it doesn't work today) However, killing people was not necessary. That was Pinochet's mistake.

[shokerasd]

fschcondor eris un saco de wea en cada video de pinochet sale un post tuyo aweoano cualio ediondo a zorra

Que tanta wea alegan si pinochet no mato a nadie, fueron los militares que por cierto se echaron a wns comunistas que nisiquiera son humanos, bien merecidos se lo tenian por estupidos

[fachcondor]

Are the children communists?

poor asshole.

[fachcondor]

60 children were killed by Pinochet, those children were not communists.

[vonhochstetter]

Why don't you reprimend on Bush's "concentration camps" or "jails" for Irak War prisioners?

I mean (exept for Estadio nacional cases) what's the difference between the prosecution of the terrorists in Chile by 1973 and the prosecutions of the nazis in the Numberg Trial in 1945.

It's just nonsense... You allways have to put yourself on the temporal perspective of that period.

(don't think I agree with these things I'm just trying to be objective)

[mykacike86]

Pinochet saved Chile. He did not kill people, he killed TERRORISTS. allende had the country in ruins, food and other neccisities were scarce because of him and Pinochet changed everything. Pinochet mi gran tata.

[chuncho06]

Mykacike86,por favor no habli' weas conchetumadre. Victor Jara, Tucapel Jimenez, Eduardo Frei Montalva,...no eran terroristas. Si no sabi' quienes son, infórmate antes de hablar imbecilidades. Otra cosa, saco wea, si Chile estaba en la ruina es porque la derecha chilena y los EE.UU lo boicotearon poh.

Ya xau facho culiao

[ninthwave]

Blaney is right. Montgomerie is a wolf in sheep's clothing; he's not a conservative! Pinochet helped us in the Falklands so from a British interest point of view it was right to support him. But of course Montgomerie doesn't care about British national interest! Traitor.

[gatoyoshi]

Pinochet saved lots of lives on chile as well he killed 3200 terrorists.

Communism as killed over 100,000 people.

[loomisnueve]

100.000.000... you missed a couple of zeros.

[george3444]

Why is Chile in such better shape than Cuba? Because Pinochet brutally nipped the Marxists in the bud instead of letting their thugs & enablers subvert the Chilean economy. Pinochet was a bastard but probably better than the alternative.

[curicano71]

Pinochet was a Dictaor, and that is the truh, the rest is just lies...

[supervideosuper]

what about the motherfucking stalin? the biggets assassin on history

[neilmoody]

This Blaney guy, what an arsehole

[johnnysev]

How on earth do you save a country by depriving freedom,organising death squads to torture and kill the dissidents and imposing a cruel dictatorship?As far as Pinochet's economic 'miracle',that happened beacause of US loans, in return to his services for his master ,Kissinger.I have to inform you that Castro eliminated illiteracy and many diseases,Saddam also had a very good health system,Hitler and Mussolini created very impressive infrostructures.

[zoretero]

freedom is priceless.i do and think whatever i want. that's what i have today in chile because of military coup.

chile is moving forward using pinochet's model.

im wondering where are you typing your comments. let me guess that's not cuba or north korea, they are not able to..

[loomisnueve]

you're right. i'm positive that everyone arguing against pinochet are living in free non-marxist countries.

wonder what'd be their opinion living in north korea or cuba.

We wouldn't be able to hear it anyway.

[kidheadcase]

Don't have to be Jewish to know Adolf was evil. Same rules apply here.

[tariqziyad]

you were calling Hitler "uncle adolf" before, now your saying he's evil? you need to stop riding the fence

[kidheadcase]

Uncle Adolf? Never said it. Must have me confused with someone else. Get you facts right before commenting please.

[binomio12345]

Pinochet was one of the numerous students of the professors from Washington, in the fight for the "democracy" and the "freedom" in Latin America; Kissinger was its godfather; Yankees hypocrites, Yankees murderers, Yankees liars.

[vatolocosmart]

nop. pinochet was an unique case. chilean army NEVER attack democratic goverments. this is a point. chile is not the tipycal latinamerican country for many reasons. allende was comunist and was killing our country

[binomio12345]

Por lo que he visto, veo que usted es Chileno, asi que mejor le respondo en nuestro idioma (me queda mas comodo): ¿que el ejercito chileno no ataco la democracia?, ahh no?, y que paso el 11 de septiembre de 1973?, ¿una despedida de invierno?; Si Allende fue un asesino (de las multinacionales de USA), que podemos decir de Pinochet?, un supergenocida aplaudido y apoyado por los triple H.P. de los USA; Si usted cree que Pinochet salvo a Chile, yo creo que Chile se jodio con Pinochet.

[zoretero]

cree mal amigo mio. el sr allende revento el pais en solo 1000 dias. plena banca rota. el ejercito reacciono ante el clamor popular de sacar a este individuo. hubiese ocurrido aqui o en cualquier parte del mundo con un ejercito resuelto y defensor de su patria como el nuestro. hoy chile es libre y tiene futuro, siguiendo los lineamientos instaurados por pinochet. si ud es de pensamiento politico de izquierda seguro no le gustara escuchar estas afirmaciones sustentadas en hechos. pero asi es.

[binomio12345]

Yo no me considero "izquierdista", puede ser que tenga cosas de pensamiento de la izquierda, pero en general, no me interesa ponerme rotulos y posiciones politicas, porque eso me tiene totalmente decepcionado; Que hoy Chile es libre y tiene futuro, pues ojala, yo lo quisiera, pero lo dudo un poco, y no entendi eso de "siguiendo los lineamientos instaurados por pinochet", entonces, porque Chile no armo un espectaculo de luto (al estilo Viña del mar), cuando se murio el viejo titere de Washington?

[binomio12345]

Pinochet was one of the numerous students of the professors from Washington, in the fight for the "democracy" and the "freedom" in Latin America; Kissinger was its godfather; Yankees hypocrites, Yankees murderers, Yankees liars.

[binomio12345]

Pinochet was one of the numerous students of the professors from Washington, in the fight for the "democracy" and the "freedom" in Latin America; Kissinger was its godfather; Yankees hypocrites, Yankees murderers, Yankees liars.

[AdamzClaw]

I dare say that you're right in one way, however: some right-wing Chileans did support Pinochet...but that's something else that bugs me...every Pinochet supporter always goes on about how all Chileans supported Pinochet - if that was the case, why didn't he wait until Allende's (who was democratically elected, BTW) term of office ended, and beaten him in an election rather than depose him in a bloody 1973 coup?

Just a thought.

[AdamzClaw]

alvaroMCR,

Bad example. I only said made that comment about Gordon Brown as an elaboration of my point for this; for all I know, you could be an authority on world politics, but it's clear - right from the outset - that you know not one thing about Augusto Pinochet.

Do you actually believe that only "1000" people were executed? WTF? Look up any news source or read a reliable book and I think you'll find that the number is 3000.

[soyeljuggernaut]

u guys r obviously not chilean ,watch my video and the one in my favourite about pinochet ,they will change your thoughts about him

[picasso2008x]

Ther are always two sides to every story. True, there were crimes commited during Pinochet's regime, however, many of those numbers also include supporters of the coup which were killed by leftist guerilla. If wee're going to lay blame, lets be fair about it, at least. There are also many missing people that have appeared under different aliases in other countries. That's a fact.

[AdamzClaw]

oh, and lobostos, are you honestly calling Victor Jara a "terrorist with a weapon?" He was one of the best known human rights activists of the time, and before you know it he was tortured and killed just for supporting Allende! Fucking hell, read a book please.

[AdamzClaw]

alvaroMCR, just because your Chilean doesn't mean you know more about Pinochet's brutal and oppressive regime than I do.

So, does that give me the right to say I immediately know more about Gordon Brown than you do just because I'm British? Of course not.

[alvaroMCR]

Actually, I must recognize that you probably know more about Gordon Brown than I do hahaha... I know almost nothing about him...

so, as a matter of fact you probably know more about Gordon Brown than i do, as i know more about pinochet than you probably do...

[gratex]

These pro-pinochet middle class trumpets are tiresome little scumbags. Consider that you'll only ever hear their side of the story because they are the only ones in Chile that can afford computers because Pinochet worked for them and their parents.

[alvaroMCR]

Oh My God!!! i can't believe what i'm reading! I do not only disagree with what you are saying, but i also feel tired that people in other parts of the world think that just because Chile is a southamerican, distant country, it is a backwards country. more than 60% of the chilean population has access to computers and internet. And that includes the poorest.

[gratex]

That's not why I said that, I said that due to reports I've seen on the economic condition in the country that were contradictory to the "golden age" myth perpetrated by the people I mentioned in my comment.

[zoretero]

in fact, social conditions in chile are the best among southamerican countries, because of pinochet's legacy, one curious thing is that today we have a leftish government, supporters of allende on '73, but today they forgot about that and follow what pinochet start.

[chaoconcertacion]

Good give the life, Pinochet my fredoom, thanks pinochet you are a national and a international leader an hero

[barnabas65collins]

And now his whole family is in jail because of all the money he stole from the chilean people (four thousand million pesos, which is about 80 million dollars) not only was he a cold blooded murdere, but a major thief as well. If that was the best president Chile ever had, I can´t even begin to imagine what the worst one was like.

[tacj237]

well first of all i am chilean. And against pinochet, he was a murderer and a thief. He did not save chile from any communist revolution. Allende was the first socialist to be elected democtraticly as a president. So if people did not like how he was controlling the country they could have just elected against of him the next election. So there are no excuses for what he did. he was simply a capitalist dictator.

[aacr111]

There is a thing that any dictator or his followers will understand ever; human life have not price. Murders, torture, exile... CANNOT be justified by anything, and anybody who commit those crimes can be a "hero", or a respectable person... because some ones richness increase do NOT validate others extermination... but they will no understand. pinochet is dead, his closest people are in jail... a little of justice for the killed, for the tortured and for those who still cry theirs victims.

[zoretero]

i have to tell you that most historic heroes did killed people

when you say that human life has not price i agree with you, maybe pinochet didn't thought that but, allende neither, he supported guerillas and terrorist groups, and marxism does include eliminating people for the'revolution' so

[aacr111]

Well, you are in a common mistake, President Allende was the first democratically elected socialist president of the world, and one of the main problem that he had with the Comunist party was his pacifist way to the socialism, actually he had arguments with Fidel Castro because their differences regarding to the use of violence.

[zoretero]

being democratically elected is not a guarantee of democratic behavour, in fact he was accused a few months later, by the senate, of constitution violation. and communist (the party itself) weren't much violentists than socialist group (altamirano) they wanted to take control, communists had faith in allende's way more than most socialists.

[AdamzClaw]

Oh, and another popular lie is that Pinochet "immediately brought democracy to Chile". WRONG! He didn't allow free elections until 17 years after he came in power, and as soon as the Chileans got a chance they kicked him out. Coincidence? I think not.

[alvaroMCR]

You don't know anithing, do you?

i'm Chilean... so I think i know chilean history a lot more than you do...

pinochet was a hero... and actually he did allow free elections in 1980, about 5 year after he got to the power.

And because he is a hero and everybody in that time recognized that, he was elected and continued to be the president... in 1990 nobody kicked him out... he called for elections himself... but by then all the comunists had brainwashed chilean people so he lost with a 44%

[barnabas65collins]

Just because you´re chilean, doesn´t mean you know chilean history. . Maybe you should read a little more about what happened in Chile during those 17 years of terror. In 1989 he had a referendum to see if the people wanted him to continue being in power for another 8 years and the majority voted NO. The only reason why he made that referendum was because he was sure he was going to win. So that´s you "hero".

[AdamzClaw]

I violently disagree. This man [Pinochet] was a criminal from start to finish. How can you call the murder of 3000 of his own people [and the torture of many others] a "minimum of bloodshed?" Oh, and the idea that Chile's economy expanded under Pinochet is a filthy lie. Pinochet policies led to MASSIVE impoverishment of the Chilean people, and the only reason people like him was because he was anti-communist. You people are literally putting a price on human life.

[alvaroMCR]

I'm from Chile, therefore i know Chilean history more than you do.

actually there were not 3000 murdered people. There were hardly about 1000 murdered people and other 1000 disapeared (most of them are actually living in europe and they are not all dead as people may think).

[barnabas65collins]

So you think that killing a thousand people is OK? who told you that the people who dissapeard are living in Europe? The people who still live in Europe are people who were exiled by Pinochet and have a life there and probably choose not to go back to Chile. Try to stop lying about chilean history!!

[zoretero]

it's not about economic growth that was just an extra for good politics and administration. the main thing here is freedom, anyone who have lived under soviet curtain can tell you how is to live in a country-jail. we chileans didn't wanted that. gladly we could get rid of maxism

[alvaroMCR]

Of course Chile's economy expanded under Pinochet's government!!!

when he assumed the power Chile was the country with the highest rate of inflation in the world!

and still today no country has reached that level of inflation ever!

Economy expanded and after 3 years of a comunist regime, people finaly had something in their tables to eat

[desertfalcon]

I agree with Prusiano73. Gen. Pinochet won the first battle of the West in the Cold War.  Until then we had ALL stalemated at best (Europe, Korea) or been miserablly defeated at worst, (Vietnam). He said BASTANTES! when no one else would. He saved his country from communism with a minimum of bloodshed, carried out by a fist class military, and built a free economy that could support the return to participatory government. I will miss him...

[3575839]

hes just a fat man with no education except for the military one, which is very unuseful in a country that never goes to war

[3575839]

fuck u Im chilean too and Im rich and I hate pinochet hahahahah fuck u fucken republicans and pinochet lovers, he didnt even kno whow to read, for those of you who can speak spanish watch my videos

[gratex]

There's no way to excuse torture, murder and persecution, how can you reach freedom through fascism? Chile is in a worse state for the lower classes now that it was prior to 1973. The only people who comment here are those that are rich enough to do so, so why would they want anything to change?

[mandrago]

Pinochet was the muppet of the Derecha Chilena (kind of republicans....) and of course was the leading actor in the play of the USGOVERNMENT :

"How to kill a President" (the first one to be a socialist Democratically elected in the world....)

Uncle Sam doesn't like politicians who think the social issue is important...he likes stupids or criminal ones.

Pinochet was the weapon used by the Derecha and U-S-A

Gov. ....quite a weapon knowing that he was the Chief

commander of Chilean army.

[Prusiano73]

who's Pinochet? he was a great man that save chileans from a communist regime, he is the second father of our country. gracias Pinochet lider mundial anti comunista

[elbucalemu]

thanks Pinochet, world anti communist hero

[3575839]

fuck u peice of shit u defend others ideals that cannot be aplied to u because u are poor, wake up, pinochet didnt think about the poor or the rich, he thought only of how to turn rich himself, thing that he did after he stole all the money

[sheshdd]

it is a shame to see that there's still a group of people who consider that anyone who doesn't agree with pinochet,are communists.Who are you guys kidding?It doesn't take a communist to say that pinochet ordered the killing and torturing of so many people,open up your stupid eyes,stupid ignorant fucks.That's what makes politics so boring,it makes people stupid,very fucking stupid i must say.i'm glad pinochet is dead,let chile move ahead without that kind of nazi scum.

[zoretero]

"it is a shame to see that there's still a group of people who consider that anyone who doesn't agree with pinochet,are communists." and then you treat the ones who agree with pinochet as nazis??? that's funny. by the way, chile is moving ahead because of pinochet. that's a fact.

[sheshdd]

"and then you treat the ones who agree with pinochet as nazis???" you couldn't be more wrong,the nazi scum talking about is pinochet himself.And the guy who mentions castro:man,i'm not discussing castro,stay on topic,but for the record,i don't agree with castro either.i don't support anything involving violence as a method.jeez,you people are way off.

[zoretero]

way off is some people talking things without knowing the situation back on 70's on chile, with soviets and cubans arming and brainwashing people, and a violence level that would definately cause a civil war if pinochet had not acted.

it´s not about supporting violence, it´s putting things on scale and take the option that represents a good future for the country instead of the destruction of it.

[Marleneagnes]

President Pinochet was a great man indeed!

[zoretero]

the first guy doesn't remember that marxists act under a terrorist formation, so it's easy to say that pinochet's dictatorship should be a murder-free regime.

kills happened. However, he prevented a civil war, total destroy of chile, prevented comunist expansion in america and finally left (via elections) a good strong country.

[3575839]

strong country? we are not a strong country, we are just better than the shit that lives beside us,pinochet laws are the reason that the country cant get full improovement, 10 of copper has to go to the military, education law is clasist shit and nobody can change it know

[funkmasterswede]

Allende was elected and had not became a dictator. He was in power for all of 3 years. Pinochet was a terrible person. He only killed 17 000 people.

[elbucalemu]

3100 dead, don't lie, what about castro? and cuba in poverty

[damithx]

pinochet sucks!

[elbucalemu]

Thanks Pinochet world anti communist hero, you save us froma a marxist dictatorship and froma a civil war, Pinochet you will be in our hearts for ever VIVA PINOCHET

[gangstarrstu]

well sed "fabrixiuss". to the rest of you: shut the fuck up, google "pinochet" and read about how murdered 100's. uv no fucking idea.

[fabrixiuss]

fuck pinochet and all the bastards like him!

[Jacobopolitano]

Fuck you bastard communist!!!

[fabcvd]

Go Pinochet!!! You saved ussss!!!

[diablo2k6]

Viva PINOCHET!!!!

[Arjozof]

Viva Augusto the Great!