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  • I don't see how punishing legal gun owners who are breaking no laws will cut down on any crime. If I was gonna commit a gun crime I'm pretty sure it would be with a concealed gun and it would be loaded.

  • Guns are not a threat it's the criminals that have them. People have the right to protect themselves from any threat.

  • BRADY BILL SUPPORTERS, please make a full list of ALL YOUR constitutional rights that you are willing to give up, INCLUDING but not limited to 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Amendments, add that list to a Affirmation, get it notarized, record it in your states and counties, send copies to all police departments, and then I will support you.

  • have to love the Peoples Republic of California

  • MR POLICE CHIEF KEN JAMES, LET'S BEGIN BY UNARMING THE CITY COPS FIRST, THEY CARRY BATTONS, TAZERS, HANDCUFFS, AND ARE IN GENERAL BIG GUYS, THEY CAN FEND FOR THEMSELVES HAND TO HAND; 'CAUSE: "GUNS ARE A THREAT"

  • Open Gun law is retarded, but don't give up. It's another right people will take away from themselves. Before you know it Martial Arts will be illegal.

  • Emeryville Police Chief Ken James: "Guns are a threat".

    No, Chief, criminals are a threat. Guns are a deterrent.

  • I think we should ban open carry of butter knives, they are very deadly. I feel very comfortable around open carry People, even though I do not carry. Teens behind the wheel are more dangerous.

  • GUNS are not a threat. CRIMINALS are a threat. Ban criminals, not firearms.

  • that would be discrimination against a group which means lawsuites. people are going to have guns anyways. GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE USE GUNS TO KILL PEOPLE.

  • Open carry a unloaded firearm. This is another slim rights you have there in california. Here in arizona, we have the right to carry concealed and open carry without a permit. We don't have as many shootout at OK corral as they do in cali. Maybe its your laws that strip the good guys rights and gives the criminal the chance to take advantage of it. now take that to your state senate!

  • Who in their right mind would openly carry an unloaded gun, if they had the option to carry it loaded, or concealed and loaded? Loaded or unloaded OC is a joke. It creates anxiety in civilians and cops. I want to CCW, and will apply in 2012. We need to build a class of citizens who apply for and are refused CCW. We need millions to apply for CCW. We need a million gun owners for a lawsuit. Buy long guns and OC, everywhere! Make videos, record audio. Get recorders at Radio Shack.

  • @borderraven The reason that most people in CA OC is because its near impossible for the average citizen to get granted a CCW permit in this state. It is generally reserved for friends of the head of the sheriff's department, celebrities, and politicians.The only reason that people freak out in CA when they see a gun is because they uneducated-ly associate a gun with criminals. The more exposure that the public has to guns should reduce that fear in time. It is also a deterrent for petty crime

  • @Cookies205, I'm a CA native/resident and 2A advocate. Moonbeam signed the bill making it "illegal to open carry unloaded". But, changing CCW registration laws. I feel we need to use the laws to our favor. Try this, in January, apply for CCW. Keep a file on it. If we get a class of legal gun owners denied CCW, then we sue the Sheriffs, Counties, and State.

    OC has always been a result of inadequate public education on the part of the cops, who should educate callers.

  • @Cookies205 Not true. Im an average citizen and I got my CCW in CA...in supposedly one of the most difficult counties to get one. You just need to know what NOT to say during your interview with the detective or the sheriff.

  • @francobobfred any tips?

  • @Cookies205 Send me a private message with your county and "cause."

  • I want to CCW, and will apply in 2012. We need to build a class of citizens who apply for and are refused CCW. We need millions to apply for CCW.

  • Surely if everyone was armed it would be harder for nutters to shoot up the town, not easier

  • If people allow them to take a citizens rights, or power, they will start sticking their hands in the candy-jar. The only reason they don't want open carry, is because they then feel like 'one of us', and they can't have that. A loss of power to the PIGS, would affect their everyday lives. So in other words, when stopping a citizen, they no longer feel that sense of 'power, and control'. I say, good, 'We The Fucking People' - <== To all you piggish bigots out there, read my freaking lips!

  • i cant help but feel as if this piece was very biased towards those who only aim to observe the law and carry firearms for self defense, as it the open carry folks are part of some problem. the news media, the reporters, the station, all slanted towards some attitude that the ppl who are legally carrying firearms for self defense are part of some ''problem''........pfft, media.

  • These jews want your guns, because once you're disarmed, it will be easy to herd you into fema camps like they did to the Russians with their gulags. There they murdered nearly 50 million people, but imagine if those 50 mil were ARMED! In Armenia they slaughtered another 3 mil people, and in the Ukraine, they starved 7 mil people to death. These jews are dangerous, and America is severely infested with them. Read the jew lists at SubvertedNation/net for confirmation. History repeats people.

  • if the rest of americas states starts this sh*t there will be a war

  • What is wrong with Americans today??? These are your rights!! PLease someone find me one case where a legal open carrier committed a mass shooting...or even a criminal illegally open carrying???? If a criminal wants to commit a violent crime with a firearm he is going to!! no matter how many laws you pass or how many rights you steel from the American people. I personally feel safer knowing we have openly armed citizens...trained or not!

  • Ok...I am an Army Captain and an open carrier. First of al, l for those of you that say it is safer to take guns from law abiding citizens or restricting their access to certain places you are only asking for situations like the mass shooting in AZ. At least you are aware when a law abiding citizen is armed openly, you have no clue how many criminals you pass by or encounter each day that are illegally armed. It is an INDIVIDUALS right to protect themselves, family and property........

  • To everyone who responded to my comment(s): You are avoiding my main point. I am not disagreeing with the second amendment. I am merely stating a point that MOST of the individuals who open carry are not adequately trained to use that firearm if shit where to hit the fan. Look these open carry videos on YouTube. LEOs have enough on their plate as it is, and the way this law was structured a LEO cannot even check if the individual is a felon or not. Put yourself in their shoes.

  •  never been in america, but is there not still a second amendment in america. and dinning resturants should be concerned with crimenal free dinning rather than legal carrying paying costumers, who ever heard of a crimenal walking around with his gun out in the open, lol.

  • The police say that is a threat. A threat to who? To them? Because they can not continue with their abuses and the infringement of peoples rights?

  • @GUALLACOL - Of course it is a threat to "them", as also are cameras and  cell phones (with cameras). Have you not noticed that when there is police abuse, the PIGS (at that point they are no longer police officers) surround their victim? This has to do with them blocking any videos that may be used against them!

  • so what is the status of this fascist-communist push to abrogate the 2nd amendment? 

  • Tough cookie to all my pro open carry people out there. I am a gun owner and a Californian. However,I feel the main excuse made by the protesters (crime deterrence) is unsafe. Most of these open carry people are not adequately trained in the use lethal force, and most of them are not trained observers so the danger is high to the public if one of these individuals attempted to stop criminal activity when using their firearm. Leave the crime deterring to the professionals.

  • @Natelp85 think like a criminal not a normal person.

    I.E. would you walk in and start talking shit or causing a problem some where were you know you will get retaliated against. NO! criminals go out of their way to pray on the weak.

  • @Natelp85 I don't understand much of your comment. EVERYBODY that I know that has a sidearm either is trained (not a requirement) or is familiar with weapons safety from experience. I am not aware of any incident anywhere that an open carrier was even involved in. Your wording around "lethal force" is confusing, and I am not aware of any training courses for "observing." Most important; I don't see open carry as being a crime deterrant. It's a Constitutional Right! That's why open carry!!

  • @ohannahdad Well I am sorry but I do not think you are that popular of a guy to know EVERYONE that exercises open carry, and just cause you and your buds go shooting in the back forty does not mean you are trained in shooting. I am also sorry that you are ignorant and you do not know what lethal force or what a trained observer is. Look it up and educate yourself. Well I believe that a majority of citizens in this country do not agree with open carry. So you will see other states banning it.

  • @Natelp85 A true sign of being (your word) "ignorant" is not being able to carry on a civil discussion without a personal attack. I don't open or conceal carry because it draws too much attention. I have no idea what the hell your talking about with "buds go shooting in the back north forty." It's obvious this communication is at an end. I limit myself to discussion only with thoe who have an IQ higher than my golf score on a good day.

  • @ohannahdad - Perhaps "Nate" was referring to you and your buddies shooting golf "in the back north forty".  Of course, that would probably mean he doesn't know much about golf, either!

  • @ThePhnxman1 My issue with Nate was.... would the "bad guys" open carry (just because they could) without being stopped. I say NO! I am surrounded with law enforcement, and they all say the same..... NO! A potential "perp" isn't going to open carry and let the world know he is armed; just because he can. The lesser amount of attention they call to themselves; the better for them. To disagree wiyh me is OK. To make it into a personal attack is cheap shoy!! Then it's time for ......golf!! PEACE!!

  • @Natelp85 It appears that you are not trained in the U.S. constitution. Show me where it says that one must be trained in shooting to have the right to keep and bear arms.

    Also, it's IRRELEVANT if most Americans are against bearing arms. The purpose of the constitution is to protect the rights of the individual from the whims of the majority. Remember, a Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for lunch. A Republic is a well armed sheep contesting the vote.

  • @Natelp85 Most of them are not trained, but the issue is not about that. The issue is the right to exercise (trained or not).

  • @Natelp85 - Are police officers "trained" observers would be of criminal acts, or just trained to see if the public is in tune to THEIR distorted view of the Constitution?

  • California is screwed, brown signed the bill,banning open carry thousands of convicts have been released,it next to impossible to get a concealed carry licence, now the only people who will be carrying guns are the criminals! every legislator in the state of California should be housed next to all the criminals who were released, and they should not be allowed to have armed guards or obtain a gun permit like the rest of Californians! I'm a Californian and this make me sick!

  • Those chiefs and politicians are NWO traitors, and the People of Cali will learn this.

  • I figured it out, it's a RAMI BD but what model Serpa is it in?

  • What make/model gun is that at 0:48- 0:52 and at 1:46 - 1:48 ?

  • @jepp114 CZ Rami 9mm or 40 SW 3 inch barrell, 10 rds of 9mm or 8 Rds of 40SW. Made in the Czech Republic. Very accurate and reliable. i had one before.

  • So I can carry my unloaded gun on my right side and then two loaded clips on the left side? Wow , that is awsome!!

  • What restaurants signed up have gun free zones. I want to post them so the robbers know where its safe to go. with no worries anybody might cap their ass!

    You liberals are living in lala land and need to get a life as well!

  • If he won't defend the rights of the people then fucking get rid of him!

  • YOUTUBE OR GOOGLE "VATICAN ASSASSINS"

    IT'S AN EPIC WORK BY ERIC JON PHELPS THAT SHOULD BE A TOP BEST SELLER, IT TELLS THE WHOLE TRUTH GOING BACK TO 1540AD ON WHY AMERICA IS UPSIDE DOWN.

    IT'S A STUDY OF THE JESUIT ORDER AND THE BLACK POPE.

  • Chief James- where does the authority for YOU to carry a gun come from? Are your rights greater than mine because you work for a corporation (City, County Government)? Does your right to carry originate from some authority GREATER that the U.S. Constitution? Does the law apply to YOU differently than me? If not, then leave your pistol,shotgun, M-16,TASER, Gas Launcher, armor, radio & patrol car at the station when you go home & walk unarmed as you demand of the citizens you swore to protect!

  • People that want to ban guns are filthy pussy faggots.

  • california police need to stop breaking the law and violating the constitution. I'm sure i'll be called a redneck racist for saying that though.

  • It's ironic too, that this state rep. just returned from a trip to Israel where you see people carrying REAL assault weapons -UZI's while hanging out the laundry or in the schoolrooms. Oh- but that's different, they have a "right to exist" there as we are constantly reminded. More guns is good for Israeli citizens and our government but BAD for the American citizenry. This is so typical of our broad-minded liberal millionaire rulers.

  • @ 1:50---It is absolutely PREDICTABLE that an elected official would consider restricting the rights of the citizens. The whole purpose of legislative bodies is to make laws, which are restrictions on otherwise permissible behavior. Lawmakers derive their livelyhood essentially, by restricting the rights of the people -typically exempting themselves as much as possible from the outcomes of such laws, ordinances, and "administrative policies".

  • ALCOHOL IS THREAT TOO... ARE GOING TO BANNE THAT ASSHOLES

  • A "law" passed like that is null and void on it's face, as if it was never passed...

  • If restaurants deny open carriers they will loose out on business. I find it hard to believe this will ever happen.

  • 2ND AMENDMENT !! LOOK IT UP ...

  • Lol arizona GUN RAMPAGE typical media scare tactics not the truth. Um violent criminal gos on rampage with illegal gun. Lol you are not getting ours guns. Ignorance of the law is as bad as law breakers stupidity right is a right. No debate nessesary.

  • heres what might happen with the brady campaigns gun free dinning campaign. search cop gets kicked out of coffee shop

  • @1:00 the cop seems like a retard. he probably is retarded, but thats his parent problem, but gun control like they talk about it stupid. Guns will always be around

  • "We don't know who.. ha.... who they are, they are a deadly danger." Cars and alcohol kill more people, dumbshit.

  • "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

    --Sigmund Freud--

  • Police Chiefs Association is a giant league of pussies. "Guns are a threat". You're damn right, they are. They are a threat to your ability to have totalitarian control over us. Deal with it. Change the Constitution if you don't like it, you whimpering bags of shit.

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  • So they want to deny our rights? that's awesome I love how there are people who are such communistic bastards they believe they are saving people when they are just feeding the wolves and to say something as ridiculous as that this will stop crimes is absolutely horse shit.

  • LOL - "Gun free dining" No happy meals and no guns - The liberals will never be happy

  • But open carry allows criminals to be able to carry guns openly, without being stopped. So yea you can defend yourself but a criminal will go unnoticed and easily be able to harm or kill someone. Its a two way street, ask yourself is it really worth the effort?

  • @Broons2112Bane Criminals already carry firearms concealed illegally but there has not been one confirmed case of a criminal "Open Carrying" on his way to commit a crime. And convicted felons are not allowed to purchase firearms and getting caught with one will result in additional prison time. All the Open Carry people in this video were required to take the California Handgun safety course and undergo a criminal background check before they were able to purchase or own their firearms

  • @Broons2112Bane LOL....criminals will easily be able to harm or kill someone regardless....they don't follow laws in case you haven't noticed. Besides most criminals prefer to conceal their pieces....better for element of surprise. The way I see it if a criminal always carries a gun regardless of what the law says u might as well allow law abiding citizens to carry as well...level the playing field.

  • Fuck You Brady your a traitor to our County.

  • @TheDolamite74 Which Brady? I really hated cindy brady for sum reason

  • See what a lovely brick home that Karen Arntzen from the Brady Campain lives in. I am sure her local police response time is blistering compared to those in less wealthy neighborhoods. Gun Control is a form of race and class supression.

  • The police chiefs need to be reminded how many deaths by cars happen in Kalifornia every day, as much as 10 times that of guns.

  • Notice all the reverends? Fucking liberal cocksuckers!

  • How's the cop "we don't know who they are" we're citizens following the law that's who!!! "gun's are dangerous" but hidden guns fully loaded in the hands of criminals are even more dangerous.Most criminals don't open carry their weapons for all to see!

  • cheif Ken James is a fat ugly tub of shit.

  • The police chief believes that people have the potential to be deadly dangers because they carry guns? I wonder if he thinks all women are prostitution risks because they have vaginas?

  • hitler,stalin,mao all agrees that gun control works.

  • @rstawarz111 Especially because a "no weapons" sign in the form of policy is NOT law. It just means that the policy of the property owner. If you just ignore the sign you could be charged with defiant trespassing. Which is why you just play "what sign?"

  • Oh god a few seconds in and I raged already, that tone of voice.

    And then they go to a vigil which had fucking nothing to do with an anti-gun rally?

    1:01 - we can say the same about any random cop. But what can I expect, you are trained to think every citizen is a potential killer

    1:16 - god damn it Hollywood. MAGAZINE. Clips are loading aids, not housing mechanisms.

    2:13 - LOL BRADY, that group is like PETA of gun control. Nothing but alarmists who resort to personal attacks on gun owners.

  • So... a criminal shoots people, so the best course of action is to restrict people who obey the law from carrying their weapons?

    I'm no genius, but I'm pretty sure that a criminal is defined as a criminal BECAUSE THEY DON'T FUCKING FOLLOW THE LAW. And what criminal would open carry their weapon to draw attention to themselves?

  • @rstawarz111 there were several people armed there.

  • I am stuck in La Republica de Mexico Norte (aka California) where we aren't allowed to defend ourselves or others. I find it absurd and appalling that when I was a teen, the GOVERNMENT gave me a machine gun and grenades, but now that I am older, more level-headed and responsible, I can't be trusted to carry a handgun to defend my family out here in the boonies as the drug mules run across our property.

  • Of COURSE its in the bay area! The place that welcomes illegal immigrants, that hands out marijuana like its candy, where you can marry someone of the same sex. Where else would this retarded bill get started?

  • it dosnt matter what police chiefs want its what the PEOPLE want !

  • @dtaxmakingyoufamous

    I wouldn't let them have the pleasure :)

  • open carry is safe,only people that hide their guns are the ones you need to worry about,honest people open carry their guns.It has been shown when people open carry crime goes down!!! don't let them fool you or the only ones that will be armed is the criminals.

  • it was a cocealed carry citizen that took the bad guy down .these commies don't tel you that .this is conduct unbecomeing of american .you can look it up the malitia is every able body person not the national gard .they are mititary and its unconstitutional to use them against the sheeple but these commies should be striped of their citizrnship charge with perjury( for braking their oath of office) jail for their crimes against thpeople and deported forthwith

  • Why are their magazine wells empty? You are legally allowed to insert an empty magazine in your Open Carry firearm. Am I correct?

  • So the cops and feds can carry loaded firrearms but we the people who right their check cannot?? Whats wrong with these people who would want their freedoms taken away? Thats freakin brilliant ,law abiding citizens turn in your guns and rely on the corrupt cops to protect you! Crimes are not commited with registered guns! All this can accomplish is disarming law abiding citizens.

  • “It is still legal in California to strap on an unloaded weapon and carry it, almost anywhere you go.” Misleading and provokes fear

    “It is legal in California to open carry an unloaded firearm, law-abiding citizens can carry almost anywhere they go.” Direct and truthful

  • @gear2728 hey obamanite you know very well the sentence provokes the wrong impression. Lousy reporting, liberal reporter. Damn Liberals. Wake up before you start losing legal rights. Moron liberals, can't wait to wear chains of slavery.!

  • this "police chief " is wrong guns are not a threat, criminals are. the the state issues me a police officer to follow me are and grantee my safety I might think about giving up carrying a fire arm.

  • the people that open carry do not commit crimes, they are law abiding, crime free citizens

  • This is comparable to an African village that has a lion sneaking in every night to maul a villager, and the people are afraid of the witch doctor's house cat and decide to ban domesticated cats. It makes no sense at all. Open carriers are not shooting people. What good does it do to ban OC?

  • Wow, I can't believe people are afraid of UNLOADED GUNS.

  • You don't get to be chief of police unless you are willing to take rights away.

  • Concealed carry is the answer. Then all the hand wringing will stop. You can't hope for people to get any smarter, as the dumbing down process has been going on for far too long. Critical thinking is a dying skill, being replaced by fear and a desire for life to be handed to you. I conceal carry everywhere, and no one is the wiser.

  • @begladicarry

    May I ask if you live in California? How were you able to obtain a Concealed Carry permit?

  • @GTVAlfaMan I grew up there, but live in the wonderful state of TN now. I will never live in CA again until it is not impossible for an average citizen to obtain a CC permit. If I visit there I may do it anyway, no one ever knows that I'm armed here anyway.

  • @GTVAlfaMan Sorry I missed this question, Alfa. I live in TN, where we are allowed to conceal with a permit. I grew up in California, and would never live there again unless they change the laws. If I had to live there again, I would go through all the channels to get one, but it would be extremely difficult. It wouldn't be hard to prove that my training is more extensive than most of the cops there.

  • guns are not a threat. law abiding citizens carrying guns make a society safer. no gun law will prevent violence criminals will all ways carry guns because they are criminals, these idiots seek to disarm law abiding citizens and give the criminals all the power.

  • These people would look stupid when the British were coming over on ships in 1812.

  • california cops are just an enforcement arm of a the most draconian state government in america. california is a state to be avoided at all costs. dont vacation there, dont buy things made or grown there. s.pend the money in other states and keep it away from california

  • Considering that the founding fathers held that that we have the right to bare arms for the protection of life,family, liberty, property and country and the faact that a fully armed populace is extremely dangerous to unjust government. It's not surprising therefore, that this Ken James scumbag would say that guns are a threat. Honest citizens carrying guns is indeed an extreme threat....to jackbooted braindead thugs like him.

  • We don't need that pesky 2nd ammendment. It's a complete waste of time. Why did those guys back in 1787 even bother putting stuff like that in that silly document anyway? Let's recite that other thing that was written in 1892... "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United NATIONS of the world..." oooops, sorry, Just getting ready for what's to come...

  • Ya great idea, take away guns so only bad guys have them . Making all of us a big fat bulls eye. WAKE UP PEOPLE, VOTE OUT THESE LIBS.

  • The chief is right...guns are a threat. Please disarm yourself and all police officers in the State; we don't know who you are and you pose a deadly danger to the citizens.

  • police chief numb-nuts thinks profilling law abiding citizen as "potentially" dangerous is an excuse to deny our second amendment RIGHT. hey jackass enforce the law and STOP FORCING YOUR BULLSHIT HIPPIE FEELINGS ON LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

  • Criminals will have guns as long as police and military have guns. Humans are corruptible. There is no point of taking weapons away from law abiding citizens. Wanna stop gun crime? Make people take an IQ test before getting a firearms permit.

  • Prepare a lawsuit from the NRA. If this bill passed into law, I'd upgrade my NRA membership to lifetime.

    Dear Police Chief, I see that you have a potential of dying from a heart attack, please do us a favor and resign. Oh, and also ban your police officers from eating donuts.

  • If you want to help STOP this bill from even passing contact the Public Safety Committee. Contact all members and tell them, "As soon as the Police & the Stated of California is legally responsible for the public safety, is the day I will go along with a ban on Open Carry." CA is broke and Portantino is writing these type of bills. Why not make a bill that create more jobs and less taxes. Isn't that what the public needs most of all.

  • The Brady Campaign is against individual rights, not gun violence!

  • and all the time the criminals are packing there guns loaded in there pants.. what a joke...

  • Had a law abiding citizen been armed in Arizona and killed that lunatic before he killed the Judge, Congresswoman and Child what do you suppose the reports would have been. "Citizen Hero" or "Vigilante takes law into own hands, Endangers many" My guess is the later. Californians need to wake up before they find themselves at the complete mercy of the thugs. On the street and in their government. I was amazed that you can legally do this in the "Peoples Republic of California". Wake up sheep.

  • @Nicodemus98 Funny how the states and districts with the most restrictive guns law continue to have the highest crime rates. Missouri passed concealed carry, has open carry and the castle doctrine, which extends to your car, so carrying a concealed loaded gun in your car is legal, provided your not a felon. And guess what, the crime rate has gone down dramatically since. Seems criminals don't like robbing folks who might shot them. Go figure.

  • How can Californian's be anti-gay marriage and opposed to open carry?

  • protest outside lady house

  • I'm not from Commiefornia... Has there been ANY criminal activity by open carriers?

    Is there any data to support that open carriers are a problem, other than an "annoyance" to police?

  • Damn democrats. I puke on them. Who the hell do they think they are taking away your safety?

  • Zionists!!

  • Picture this situation, that nutjob trying to kill a politician with these guys around. Result , nutjob stopped. Without = 9 yr old dead.

  • Refuse to patronize any business that will not allow open carry. Crush their business and put them out of business.

  • Guns are a threat?  You know what kills more people every day than guns? Cars. Let's start by banning cars.

  • Why do people wait for something bad to happen to them or their family members before deciding to defend themselves? Guns save lives, that is why cops carry them. The people of the open carry movement are pioneers. They suffer through arrest and ridicule for the many of us to fearful to stand up for our own rights.

  • Guns are a threat when carried by police these days also, considering the mentality of most of them. Take guns away from the public, take them away from the public servants.

  • Is not it also illegal for the average citizen to conceal carry?.. So, is not an open carry ban effectively an entire gun ban?... .. Shall. not. be. infringed.

  • If you have never been arrested... ever... for anything... And don't have mental problems... I don't see the problem with letting you openly carry a firearm.

  • @Vindaven oh come on! who hasnt been arrested for something??

  • @NMghost223 ~90% of Americans have never been arrested. Problem is the ~10% keeps getting arrested and released over and over again... even the violent ones.

  • @Vindaven well ive been arrested before, why shouldnt i be allowed to open carry? im not a felon

  • @NMghost223 Because criminals... people who are not law abiding citizens... should not have guns. Only those who follow rules (not the rule breakers) should be armed. You are more likely to use a weapon with poor judgment and for a bad reason. The cops should not have to deal with you, someone who has been arrested, being legally justified carrying a firearm.

  • @Vindaven so everyone whos ever been arrested is a criminal? martin luther king was a criminal? ghandi was a criminal? jesus was a criminal? see youre mixing up the concept of being a criminal with "following the rules" when they are two completely separate things in reality, a criminal is someone who actively commits crimes, i was ambushed by two cops sleeping in my car with the keys in the floorboard and took 11 stitches in my face when the cops slammed my faced into the street to wake me up

  • @NMghost223 Someone who commits crime is a criminal. I personally believe marijuana should be legal. Do I think people who use it should be arrested? Yes. Why? It is currently illegal. I believe in order; not chaos. The majority if people need to be controlled. You willingly intoxicated yourself knowing that you did not have a ride home. You need to be controlled. If you think you should be allowed to have a gun on your waist while you were in that situation you are mistaken.

  • @Vindaven "need to be controlled" wtf is wrong with you fucking communist?! fuckin freedom hating hitler loving big brother cocksucker piece of shit!!

  • @NMghost223 A perfect society would be big government. Without government you have chaos and anarchy... no order... no progression... just gangs.

    Hilter was a fool to think the bane of society are a race of people. He also killed instead of sterilized.

    Communist? Maybe. Socialist? Yup. Government's aim should be for the greatest amount of happiness, for the greatest amount of people, for the greatest amount of time.

  • @Vindaven the perfect society would be an natural agrarian industrialist society based in harmony with nature with no big govt whatsoever, sort of sherwood forest meets the amish only without the stupid hats.. youre preaching outdated bullshit ideology and quite frankly, if i had my way motherfucker, you would be publicly hanged for crimes against humanity.. you, and people like you, being alive is a cancer upon us all

  • @NMghost223 Your idea of a society without government is naive. You seem to think that, if left alone, people will behave on their own. This is not the case for the majority of people... currently.

  • @Vindaven no that is the case and was the case for thousands of years before bitch made fuckin faggots like you starting hording all the resources and forcing class struggle upon the majority of people.. youre a fuckin leviathon spewing piece of dog shit that fucks his mother.. btw, i dont argue with nazis, i fuckin beat the shit out of them, so dont expect me to be in the least bit civil with you.. your kind make me sick

  • @Vindaven im not a criminal, i got caught up in some scandalous bullshit and since cops are fuckin tax collectors with guns i got screwed even when the supreme court of new mexico ruled in my favor 3 months after i was sentenced for DWI sleeping in a non moving vehicle in a neighborhood with the keys not in my possession.. am i criminal dude?? answer me that please and tell me why i shouldnt be allowed to carry a gun

  • @NMghost223 Call me an elitist, but I think only the most moral people should be allowed to openly carry. Moral... as in... does not commit crime. While you, being a criminal, do not like police... I think you are wrong to do so. Police, when compared to other professions, are among the most moral (least likely to commit crime) people in the world.

  • @Vindaven holy freakin jesus youre a moron dude, and yeah you are an elitist dickwad at that, didnt you read the fuckin post?! the supreme court in my state ruled in my favor but i got sentenced 3 months earlier you stupid motherfucker, you obviously suck big govt dick all fuckin day or wouldnt talk such insane bullshit!! I WASNT DRIVING!!! i didnt want to commit a crime so i decided to sleep it off, i was doing the right thing and i got fucked for it, SO FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR MORALITY!!

  • @NMghost223 Emotions are a weakness. Logic reins supreme. Ad hoc insults are irrelevant. Courts are silly. If I had my way it would be a Judge-Dread (street judge) style government. The best people to decide punishment and guilt are those that see it first hand - cops. Require police to become doctors of law and call them Judges. Those that do their dirty work (requiring military combat) may be called Executioners. Remove the courts. Pay the "judges" a lot. It would save more money over all.

  • are you finished?? seriously, are you fucking done with your insane views?? youre a freakin hitler dude, straight up you should just strap on the SS regalia and start heiling around your mothers house while she sucks you off cuz genocide gets your family hot and bothered in the pants.. its people like you that make this world a terrible place, not stupid people cuz they dont control anything, its maniacal little peckerwoods like you that fuck up the planet cuz youre a spoiled selfish bitch

  • @Vindaven Logic would be you eating a bullet like right now, do it, i mean think about it, smart people dont reproduce right?? you said it yourself!! so if thats the case, why even continue living when you possess the capability of getting someone pregnant and contributing to over-population which you so firmly believe in?? you should go get your morality gun, stick it in your mouth, and masterpiece your walls and ceiling, try not to get any blood on your hitler poster faggot

  • @NMghost223 I never said smart people don't reproduce. I said smart people are *less likely* to reproduce than unintelligent people. However, thank you for calling me smart... I guess?

    Not reproducing does not equal suicide. The meaning of life is happiness. Death is neither good nor bad, it is an absolute neutral.

    Eugenics does not equal Hitler. Hitler promoted genocide... and I only promote the sterilization of criminals. Big difference.

    Also: Hitler was a religious man and I am not.

  • @Vindaven oh i was being quite sarcastic in calling you smart, if anything you probably fuck your sister on a daily basis while you heil your supreme leader barry soetoro and drink fluoridated water straight from the tap.. there is no happiness in big govt, this has been thoroughly proven time and again.. btw, eugenics was behind the genocide by the nazis so yes you are a hitler supporter.. youre pretty much the dumbest asshole i think ive ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with

  • @NMghost223 I drink water straight from the tap. Why?  Because I'm not dumb enough to buy the conspiracy theory crap. I get my flu shot too. Some people will believe anything they hear I guess...

    Eugenics can be brought about in many ways. Hitler chose murder. I choose sterilization. Those genetically predisposed to lacking in intelligence and violent tendencies should not reproduce and spread that on.

  • @Vindaven yo faggot check it ive totally owned your bitch ass in this argument, you have nothing to counter me with.. and actually, im very happy to hear you get your flu shot because i didnt get one, ever, and now you have a virus laying dormant in your system just waiting to make contact with another organism that will set it off and kill you within a few days, two weeks tops, whereas I wont die from some genetically engineered lab disease.. the nazis also sterilized you stupid fuck, so eat it

  • @Vindaven you need to wrap your head around the real world, and in the real world you have to take it case by case, you cant just see one or two incidents and just make a law restricting peoples freedoms especially when those freedoms are burned into people like me who have had my liberty taken away, falsely charged, run through the system, and for what? money.. more revenue so the governor can jet set around the country.. sorry for the rant its really late for me and im tired

  • @NMghost223 I would go even further than taking gun rights away from criminals. I would have them sterilized so that they cannot reproduce. Criminals tend to be less intelligent than non-criminals. Evolution requires natural (or unnatural) selection. Unfortunately we are evolving into a lesser intelligent species... This is because the dumber you are the more likely you are to reproduce... and the smarter you are the less likely you are to reproduce.

  • @Vindaven so youre a eugenicist as well, at least i know the level of absolute douche im talking to here.. you seriously have fuckin issues man, you would willingly sterilize so called "criminals", where have i heard that before?? oh right the nazi's did that shit, i mean they did just copy the US on a bigger scale but still, you just associated yourself with totalitarian if not nazi ideology, if anyone needs to be fuckin takin out back and put out, its you homie

  • I think the people of California need to band together and fight to take their state government back. Even if that means war. Revolution!

  • @mem11977 Man, thankfully we don't need to fight a war in this country.. you can RUN for office and make the laws.. that's how it was intended.. citizen legislators, not professional politicians. State and Federal governments are run by international special interests who pour tons of money into the political system, be it wall street, unions, pharma, defense contractors, international oil interests... if people would just WAKE UP and elect people not bought and paid for it could really change.

  • Socialist whackos.

  • traitors

  • I would comment but since the talking heads will call my comment extremest ill just zip it 1984 style.

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