Slavery Can Be Fun

[shanhun770]

All year, I've seen God moving and heard Him speaking to me...and I PROMISE ..Chan's messages are such a blessing..the affirmation of the ideas I've always had about God, even as a child..he so vividly manifests...sadly though, I somehow lost the very core of meaning of it all..GOD is INFINITE..so many things I take for granted...and it pains me...really grateful for this

[generaly04]

my brothers stray from from arguements of irreverant babble for these lead to more ungodliness...

[WweMariaa]

THIS WAS absolutely LOVELY !!!!!

I actually couldn't be bothered to watch this at first but i'm ...GLAD!!! i watch the whole of it,

I actually have the fattest smile on my face we have amazing LORD !!!!

btw what does rebulk mean?

[jlee7351]

Amen. Amazing Message, Glory to God

[jesusfresus]

Jesus Fresus! John 8:32

[frosty4700]

I like being a slave of the NWO. Makes life simple and infinite entertainment available all the time

[JesusFreakMusicLover]

i've met him. the author of the number one selling Christian book of our day was at a remote unkown church serving the homeless in the name of Jesus. and that is the greatest witness of all

[tdhtv]

Why would a loving father who is omniscient create sin? He allows many to be born to this earth with no hope of being saved. Men throughout history individually killed millions, according to the bible God sends millions to a fate worse than death.

[SeraphsWitness]

@tdhtv God created sin? What Bible are you reading?

[tdhtv]

@SeraphsWitness God created EVERYTHING right? He knows things before they happen. So even if it were Satan that brought sin about it was God who created Satan. And its not like a man creating a gun to hunt and then another man uses it to kill humans. The man creating the gun doesn't know everything like God, so the gun creator isn't responsible. But God knows about things before they come into existence so He is responsible for it.

[Forgiv3n777]

@tdhtv He did not create sin. Sin is just merely an absence of good.

[tdhtv]

@Forgiv3n777 Absence of good? So God is good right, and what you are saying is that by God being absent (even though thats not possible because He's supposed to be omniscient) Satan is able to create sin. Listen to me, God created everything and he was fully aware that by making Satan, Satan would by nature disobey God and damn mankind. How does this not make sense, God could have avoided all of this but CHOSE NOT TO.

[zipperlry]

@tdhtv I'm not sure I agree with Forgiv3n's argument, but here is a way that I think of it. If you had the choice of forcing someone to love you, or having them choose to love you, which would you choose? God has the power to destroy satan, yet he allows him to exist so that us humans can reject satan and choose God so that we, by our own free will, will love God and choose eternal life. God does not lead us to sin, it is satan's influence and our own will that leads us into temptation.

[tdhtv]

@zipperlry I know God doesn't lead us into sin, but he doesn't have to. According to the Bible after Adam and Eve it became human nature to sin (God knew this). You cant force someone to love you, its an emotion that has to be developed by the individual. Sin doesn't need to be present in order to love God, I'm sure Adam and Eve loved God before they fell into temptation. A God that sends most of mankind to a eternity of pain just to prove that love is better won is disgusting.

[zipperlry]

@tdhtv For the most part, I would agree (except the last sentence, obviously). The whole point is that God gave us free will. Because Adam and Eve chose to sin, we are no longer pure in the eyes of God (hence the reason for sending Christ as the Perfect sacrifice so that we could be clean again). I do agree that it is sad that the majority will not be saved, but it is not God's fault -- God truly wishes for us all to be saved, but it is up to us to accept His grace.

[tdhtv]

@zipperlry I used to be a christian so I know how it's almost impossible to convince you to use knowledge rather than blind faith. So he gave us free will, Adam and Eve screwed it up. So God said look how cool I am, Ill send Jesus down to suffer as a man like you guys and believe in him and you're saved. All of you who don't want to except Me as God will burn in hell. Yeah sure I could have just NOT CREATED SATAN but who would gain from that? I mean a perfect world, how boring!

[zipperlry]

@tdhtv Just as you say that it would be impossible for you to convince me, so it is just as unlikely that I will be able to convince you. I respect your opinion, though I disagree with it. I think we should agree to disagree, but I do hope that one day you may be able to see things a little differently. Please, don't take my word as it is but read God's word (again) and try to see it from my perspective. I wish you all the best and pray that you would come to love God.

[tdhtv]

@zipperlry Oh I still read the Bible all the time, but now I find it cruel, contradicting, and funny. I was in high school, young and impressionable. Once I realized this God was false my world opened up and now I'm living a more respectful life than most christians I know. I think its funny how Christians live this American lifestyle thinking that it's not against the word of God. No Christian or Pastor has been able to answer why God chose to allow evil to happen. Prideful, scared humans.

[zipperlry]

@tdhtv That's unfortunate that you feel that way...But, you do have a point that Christians tend to be hypocrites. As Friedrich Nietzsche said, "There was only one true Christian, and He died on the cross." Christian's are still human, and are still vulnerable to sin. Francis Chan discusses this in a few of his sermons. Answering why God "allows" evil to happen is a monumental task because, honestly, there is no easy answer, and I for one am not prepared nor authorized to give it.

[zipperlry]

@tdhtv I feel like I should also add that God did give us the opportunity for a perfect world, but it was ruined when Eve took a bite from the apple. God didn't make her; in fact he explicity told them not to take the fruit from the tree of knowledge, yet she was tempted by satan into taking it. Because of this they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, not because God just didn't want a perfect world.

[tdhtv]

@zipperlry I was being sarcastic, I don't believe any of this ever happened. I'm not slow, I understand what this book talks about. And it wasn't an apple hahaha, I eat apples all the time. Read closely, God created Satan knowing the future events. All I'm saying is God knew what he was doing and because of him people with good hearts and poor influences will spend eternity in Hell, I wouldn't wish hell on anyone. And I refuse to believe in a God that does.

[zipperlry]

@tdhtv Oh-- sorry, sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate very well over the Internet. I'm certainly no priest, and by no means do I think you're slow. But like I said, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and though I don't agree with yours, I do respect it and I won't try to force mine upon you. I am constantly learning from the Bible, myself, and trying everyday to understand it better. I hope I have been a good witness to you, and I wish you all the best in your life.

[flakoveli617]

@tdhtv The last thing i aim to do is jump into a convo that doesnt concern me but i just cant help it. You should get your hands on the Apocrypha (a set of about 14 books removed by the romans when the "christian/catholic" bible was created) and read 2 Esdras 4. I too did not understand God's ways and it helped me understand that i NEVER will. It is foolish to even think we are capable of such a thing. -i write this with nothing but love and pray that you concider my argument. GOD bless our soul

[tdhtv]

@flakoveli617 Thank you for the missing books, I've read Esdras 4 which you recommended. This still doesn't answer my question. So what's the point of the Bible if it doesn't explain everything? Why wouldn't God give us the knowledge to understand him completely? He would most certainly have the power to help us comprehend, and why isn't it this way? Maybe because men wrote this book.

[flakoveli617]

@tdhtv Thanks for reading it. But that was my point, we would never understand. Our mind is a can of coke and GOD is the 7 oceans. How could we ever fit it all in our "little" minds? and dont you think by us wanting to know ALL the answers, is us wanting to be GOD? I do agree that it was written by man, but if you think that way then it means you cant believe in GOD himself, because all we know about him, and any other topic for that matter, has been written and taught by man. agree? GOD bless.

[tdhtv]

@flakoveli617 You know that human brain size doesn't determine how smart an individual is right? First of all I would never want to be a god or like the Christian god, and second knowing what God knows would never make us remotely like him. If we had his knowledge it wouldn't mean we had his power. If the Bible were true it wasn't Adam/Eves fault It was God's for tempting man and allowing Satan to place the final straw.

[flakoveli617]

@tdhtv Albert Einstien only used 15% of his brain. Once again, GOD knows why he placed a limit on our ability to use our giving brain, even if we dont understand his purpose. The bible is true and it was never God's fault. He gave Adam & Eve free will to obey or disobey. Is God responsible for our wicked ways? or do we find escape in blaming him before taking responsibility for our own actions? Him, being our father, knows what is best, but lack of faith makes us rebellious children.

[flakoveli617]

@tdhtv Albert Einstien only used 15% of his brain. Once again, GOD knows why he placed a limit on our ability to use our giving brain, even if we dont understand his purpose. The bible is true and it was never God's fault. He gave Adam & Eve free will to obey or disobey. Is God responsible for our wicked ways? or do we find escape in blaming him before taking responsibility for our own actions? Him, being our father, knows what is best, but lack of faith makes us rebellious children.

[klsjafksjdfklsdfjkls]

@flakoveli617 Saying that someone only used 15% of their brain implies that the other 85% was useless.. when the hell did that myth arise anyway?

[flakoveli617]

@klsjafksjdfklsdfjkls midth? do you even research? oh, let me guess... u follow main stream media? by your comment i can clearly see you only use less then 15%...

[klsjafksjdfklsdfjkls]

@flakoveli617 How the hell do you get the word midth when I used the word myth? If you want proof here's an .edu website.. a website created by a university but written for KIDS so even you could understand.. an article written by a professor.. using several sources including scientific journals. Is that good enough for you? Google washington faculty brain myth

Anyways all I'm saying is that comment is misleading.. you make it sound as though we'd be just as smart if you removed 85% of it..

[flakoveli617]

@tdhtv on another note.. keep in mind the reward he has for those who seek him with faith and love is eternal life in the kingdom of heaven. if you owned a cup of pure wine, would you water it down and disrupt its quality to feed more? or would you keep its quality and only give it to drink to those few who earn it? he knows it is not easy living in a wicked world of temptation, but those who fight it and dont allow it to rule their lifes will be rewarded. a reward that unmeasurable.

[tdhtv]

@flakoveli617 The Bible say's God knows everything, so if he knew his creation would be harmful it is his fault. If a man creates a child the child's actions aren't the parents blame. But if a man creates a bomb he is responsible for that bomb even if it's not the man that physically blows up. Well first of all it's a cup of wine, I don't drink alcohol so I would give what's available to whom ever wanted it. Out of charity, not because someone owed me something.

[Brucev7]

@zipperlry God creates life, and He sustains life. That is love. To wipe out a created being, is not love.

[Brucev7]

@tdhtv Darkness is the absence of Light. Sour is the absence of sweet. Cold is the absence of Heat.

[tdhtv]

@Brucev7 No. Sour is just a different sensation than sweet and cold is just a change in thermal energy.

[Brucev7]

@tdhtv Not the issue. I wasn't speaking Chemically or in sensation.

[HardKoreCrew]

God bless us man, These messages are great. May God use us all & open our hearts to him as one. Word.

[bsball1891]

10:40 thats 2 Timothy 4:1-3 not 2 Timothy 1

[Motjeko]

May GOD continue to use you....Thanks for the message, We give Him the Glory

[arkkenpo]

Brother...You are very encouraging to a whole lot of people. Keep up the good work.

[MsFireproof777]

Brother.....you have a gift......keep preaching, keep it real and humble and the Lord will continue to use you no doubt.

[MrWatsonComeHere]

Another great and compelling message by Francis straight from the Word of God.

[HarmonyinJesus]

Love that, "make your decisions based upon what is the most loving" towards God and others.

[jrwilsonsr]

You can find lots of wonderful messages on his church's website Cornerstone Simi Valley, CA

[whithagemann]

These are truely wonderful msges. i watched the luke warm one either 2 or 3 times. its great. do you have anymore of these msges that you can put up???

[Spideywoman23]

He and Ben Cerullo are real men of God.

[JesusRad20]

@Spideywoman23 SO TRUE!!!!

[NWOnitsway]

Like he said, all glory goes to God! God sure has given him a voice to speak truth.

[brentheart888]

what a great message!.. i pray that Holy Spirit give me wisdom that i could speak also like that to my family, relatives, and friends, God bless you pastor chan..

[jgattorno]

Love this guy so real not fake like some preachers and pastors. This pastor reminds me of Pastor Punch, and Raul Ries from Calvary Chapel Ministries.

[draggeddownthehole]

AMEN!

[wesisnotcool]

what an awesome pastor =)

[Slaught1004]

IT must be great to speak to the

world and ppl holding on to ur everyword....

but IT must also be very hard...

ppl counting on u...

i hav great RESPECT for PASTORS..

to be able to speak the love of GOD to the

world!!!

AMEN!!!

[Minja226Song]

you da man

[Morgaen]

Great message! -Seoul, Korea

[tattypatty]

He was sitting beside me on a plane ride from LA to Chicago. Now I find him on YT. Weird.

[Slaught1004]

WOW how was it?

[AtThEg00dlife]

@tattypatty did you talk to him at all?

[libertyeconomics]

Pastor Chan is sharp.

[TirzahRose]

where is this church located?

[J27G]

simi valley California

[JCsolution116]

la illaha illa YHWH

[imaChristian88]

i'm listening to this as i'm sitting in the computer lab writing a paper and it has really given me something I needed to hear.

[musicalfruit123]

uplifting!

[lindajscott]

Awesome word!

[jwalk3]

Awesome