WTF TKD blackbelt VS Muay Thai in Chengdu, China 2009

[TheIceLate]

Get easy black belt in McDonald.

[inEarthCEO]

This shows the flaw in TKD actually, black belts are easy to get.. just do the pumse right and you got a belt upgrade.

The Muay Thai fighter wasn't even good either.

[xmanhall360]

lol so WTF doesn't stand for WHAT THE F*CK lol?

TKD guy was fat but MT guy was really really skinny. I though that 1st hook to the jaw was pretty ruthless lol!

[Search4diabetescure]

Sad!

[TheTaeKwonDoHero]

yeah that's not a real TKD black belt he probably went to a bad school where they just give you belt for money. the McDonalds of martial arts.

[jeffchen]

@TheTaeKwonDoHero when a guy loses then he is not a real tkd black belt... what nonsense logic...

why not say that muay thai guy isnt a real one?

[TheTaeKwonDoHero]

@jeffchen well obviously he's going to attract the most attention, that's how our minds work. what my point is his technique and posture isn't up to par with WTF standards. But WTF wont check on all it's practitioners so it's up to the school's master to say if their ready while others just want money.

[mao2103]

hahaha what a stupid video i mean wasthat tkd common stupid muay thai videos

[tikfeedom]

ประเทศไทย

[raybu98]

Hello; I say that the peleador of tkd cometio a great unprudence to the free dejarele in order that I should strike his neck. On the other hand it is the funny thing that I have seen

[MrTeamkikz]

It's HIS fault .he just don't know how to use tkd in a world that doesnt stands by wtf rules .blame him no the art

[j0k3rVIRUS]

because this fighter is very fat and slow

[j0k3rVIRUS]

this taekwondo fighter is very bad and all chinese taekwondo fighters are very bad

[viryilito]

I don't know why you guys keep thinking this kind of videos are real, it just shows they aren't... there is always a guy whos ass its kicked big time in no time!! that doesn't happen in real life, cuz no matter what kind of martial art you practice, if you are a pro, then you have the skills of good reflex, contition and atack and you woudn't get your ass kicked in the first round. I mean, ALL martial arts exist for a reason if they were useless no one would practice a particular one.

[VictorC212121]

to bad the taekwondo, do not look to be or train and be a fighter

[Hwoarang8ify]

thank god for mouth peaces

[Genten96]

HAHAHAHAHHAH



[ivanfragio]

a onde hiba repollo cinturon negro.... en fin tiene k aver de todo en el mundo xDDD

[TheMMAMANIAC101]

Love it lol too funny tkd doesnt stand a chance against muay thai if a good tkd guy and a good muay thai guy fought without any rules the muay thai guy would kill the tkd guy all day

[K186]

this dude who claims he's a black belt is obviously a fake for the following reasons...

1. he's fat as phuk

2. he's slow as phuk

3. he can't even tie his belt

4. he's dumb as phuk

[carlostkd]

@K186 Agree 100%. Modern/Sport TKD has its issues but this guy does not represent WTF Taekwondo in any way. One could dress a dobok on any un-trained, un-willing to fight person and this video would be just the same.

[GleijsteenXIV]

@K186 why  don't you use Fuck?

[MrStathis77]

@K186 A lot of martial artist are. Especially in TKD. I work out with them. I take MT and TKD and Akido. And TKD is not as powerful as MT or Akido. They say it depends on the martial artist. (True) But it also depends on the style. It's both. And this is why most of the time when MT is up against TKD MT wins.

[ikcjjtt]

@MrStathis77 many people would argue akido isnt a fighting art at all. styles are different, but ranking them is difficult if not impossible. First off people rank them based on videos and never personal experience. People claim this is more powerful than that, but train in niether.Take it from a guy who trains in 7 martial arts. Different arts are made for different purposes. they work well for their purposes. Akido is not an offensive art. you are comparing apples to tigers.

[MrStathis77]

@ikcjjtt O.K. then out of 20 videos with different fighters in them TKD wins maybe once or twice. Muay Thai wins 95% of the time. HMMMMMMMMMMMM???????????

[Artudorockz]

hell yeah still waiting :D

[hazza3]

lmfao i shouldn't laugh because he got him in the throat but damn thats funny.

And its 2,500 years dating back to Subak, the original TKD.

They're using the Sanda rules system. For those who dont know, alot of TKD styles fight with their hands up, its actually the first thing the learn.

[OhNoPaypal]

Why the hell would he challenge a MT fighter?

[arkonastriborg123]

fatty

[kenseisato1989]

that muay thai fighter....

what kinda muay thai is that?

ive done both styles but i never seen a muay thai fighter with one hip forward

[TAC412]

@kenseisato1989 Maybe he doest muay thai but the TKD is down oo easily. Sometimes you cant tell if it's muay thai because knees and elbows are not allowed.

[kenseisato1989]

@TAC412

well it looked more like a kick boxer or someone who's cross trained in TKD.

iv'e never seen a mauy thai practitionor with one hip forward. you don't necassary need to see elbows and knees to see if they've trained in muay thai. usually you can tell by their stance.

[TAC412]

@kenseisato1989 Really? I think some muay thai fighters have this stance as well, especailly when you need to block with your elbow and shin, so it'll be easy to do so.

[kenseisato1989]

@TAC412

true but you leave the other side totally open for kicks, specially the siatic nerve

[KensaiZen]

@kenseisato1989 There is no "one stance" in muay Thai. Stances usualy vary dependant on region styles or master.

[kenseisato1989]

@KensaiZen

its true.

but i just never seen a stance like that ever, not eaven on you tube exept people who cross train

[sappyikir]

fake!

[hazza3]

HAHAHAHAHA poor kid. WTF TKD eh. No wonder his hands are so low and off form.

Im Rhee myself. self defense and no competition Sports.

[manmanguy]

KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP MORON !!!!!!!!!!

[cwmak70]

ROTFL

[urielalvarez24]

muay thai rules



[Jehuty989]

Lmao hahahahah he got owned ahahahah. Dumb fat bastard.

[searchitt]

TKD FAIL! Failed his martial arts and himself...

He kinda look like William Hung too. Hahaha

[TheSonikboom]

this guy is ot a black belt and if he is thats one shit school

[aquin520]

nah TKD is good if they focus on killing the MT fighter's gut with a jumping or turning back kick. This TKD fighter just rushed into the brutal power of the thai fighter, dumb.

[Johnny08000bcn]

Good night, fatty

[seolma]

As always, WTF taekwondo sucks ass. Thats what you get from fighting with your hands down throwing uneffective kicks.

ITF taekwon-do is much better.

[Jehuty989]

@seolma yup, WTF style sparring is more of a sport unlike ITF style.

[SejongDojang]

@seolma as always WTF sucks when you let fight lower skills against good skills you fuck

[SteelSlasher]

@seolma if itf tkd is so much better why is not an olympic sport? i used to train itf now i do wtf and all the people i train with went from itf to wtf and most of them are eastern asian

[ikcjjtt]

@SteelSlasher if muay thai is so much better why is it not an olympic sport? I don't know im just asking...

[SteelSlasher]

@ikcjjtt because its overrated... and is irrelevant to the argument which was that ITF>WTF on the grounds of this video but whilst ITF is more widespread it is abused for commercial profit on a much greater scale than WTF.

Also, someone who has consistently studied muay thai for 20 years has almost no chance of beating someone who has studied tkd for 20 years because the muay thai training is extremely bad for your knees and shins and effects start to show from 15 years of training onwards

[ikcjjtt]

@SteelSlasher lol it was a joke. I dont beleive in this style war crap. Though honestly what is "muay thai training"? That can change depending on what country u r in, and who is training. In Thailand, your fight career is over at age 19, assuming you live that long from injuries of the intense muay thai fights. Though in the USA, they dont train as brutal, and dont have to. Style v style is pointless. it comes down to the individual and situation. I beat a muay thai guy using TKD, and-

[ikcjjtt]

@SteelSlasher and we trained about the same number of years. But i didnt win because i knew TKD. I won because i knew how to fight, he struggled to, i was taller, more reach, more experienced in combat, had more technqiues at my disposal, more weight, more speed, ect. I beat him on many elements, including boxing. It came down to me being just the better fighter. and hell, i beat many karate, kung fu, and MMA guys because of that basic reason, or lose to vise versa.

[SteelSlasher]

@ikcjjtt sorry, you cant really tell voice tones in text, it really depends on the person and the training, and speaking of which i have watched this video somewhere else but it was some kind asian tv show

[MrStathis77]

@ikcjjtt Because it is too deadly. It is too violent. The Olympic counsel will not allow it.

[K186]

@seolma

As always, fatasses who don't train and buy their belts and think they are any good suck. No matter what country they come from. No matter what the style. ITF has their share of these fools too. Don't even start attempting to put ITF against WTF.

[WinserEX]

@seolma I agree when we are talking about the punches, but rest assured WTF's kicks are something to see.

[corkystorky]

@seolma I agree with you, they got used to having their guards down, stupid WTF taekwondo does it everytime, wtf what the...

[joelakastud123]

@seolma dude that guy is a chubby little chump this is a horible example i bet running up a set of stairs would knock him out just as good!

[TaekwondoFitness101]

@seolma Its the fighter, not the organisation.

[isdoma]

Baya mierda te taekwondista... k deshonra...

[shatinswimming]

tkd is a good martial art...............so there are many idiots to practise~~ha ha

blackbelt...........ho, my ass

[shatinswimming]

tkd 係好野來的................唔係邊有咁多白痴仔­練~~哈哈

練D乜帶乜帶比人KO

[ante9224]

thats what you get for not haveing your hands up ;P muay thai > the rest

[rugbylover95]

?! that tkd black belt is terrible, A he lookes like he has a boner after he has been knocked out and B he didnt throw any shots lol

[PFOLEY]

@ TKDFighterJoe: you are 100% correct! KKW is the dan issuing body for TKD...and this was a fat kid vs an athlete. Put a chubby recreational Muay Thai athlete against an athletic TKD player and the result would be the opposite.

[TKDFighterJoe]

the WTF does not issue black belts, kukkiwon does. Furthermore, having a blackbelt in taekwondo does not mean you are a competitor, physically fit, or have good skill. It means very little. On top of that this guy had no taekwondo stance, movement or technique that would make me think this was a legitimate test of taekwondo ability. On top of all that the setting is muay thai friendly.

Seriously, a world full of haters hating on something they do not properly understand.

[tapoutcampion111]

@TKDFighterJoe wtf does give black belts i do itf and wtf and little bit of taeguk

[StephanieA317]

TKD is a great sport, lots of fun and great exercise. As a black belt who competed all over the U.S. I would recommend it. If you want to learn how to fight however, I would strongly advise against it. I cannot think of a martial art more poorly suited of street fighting. TKD relies on moves and techniques that are entirely unrealistic and have a low percentage of success. If street fighting is what you want go to BJJ or Wrestling, thats a reality you cant escape. Sorry to break the news.

[heartlessKOR]

@StephanieA317 clearly lots of ppl like you only learn tkd as a sport and think they can apply the olympic method in street. no wonder u fail lol

[iliketopeeondoodoo]

that tkd guys was the fattest motherfucler ive ever seen

[Iamverycoolism]

Muay Thai rules yada yada ok we know that . But my boy had his lead hand waaaaay too low. TKD should have faked leaf and went with a right kick or a cross and would have hurt him.

[atg27111]

tkd is a joke

[neilmma]

@atg27111 ahahaha no

[atg27111]

@neilmma r u watching the same vid as me. hahaha yes

[neilmma]

@atg27111 dude you guys are soo lame saying a martial art sucks or doesnt work go on other videos and you will see its the fighter not the style jesus

[atg27111]

@neilmma tkd is all flash with no results. if you must know 90% of all fights end up on the ground. so boxing and wrestling are very important styles to pick up. not round house kicks. tkd lol what a joke

[neilmma]

@atg27111 man thts what u think who are u to say shit like tht and ive done mma before (bjj muay thai wrestling) and yea there great but theres nothing wrong with tkd at all i prefer the fast kicks so i dont end up hurting my leg by kicking to slow and it getting blocked with his shit so dude fuck off anything u say wont change my mind keep your thoughts to yourself

[atg27111]

@neilmma you fucking nerd you probably never been in competition. tkd is a fucking joke i took do jo karate and the shit is for nerds who cant fight. therefore i took up boxing and couldnt be more happy. you keep your stupid opinion to yourself asswipe

[neilmma]

@atg27111 dude fuck yu, you say the same shit all the time and calling me a nerd actually is saying i have more kwoledge over you pal and dont get me wrong i love mma muay thai bjj etc but i do not like ppl disrespecting other arts thts all im asking asshole and i bet your gonna reply wiht some stupid shit i could care less about and yea i have been in competetions thank you very much

[atg27111]

@neilmma your clueless. growing up karate helped me get my ass kicked. boxing and weight lifting got me respect not this bs

[neilmma]

@atg27111 soo i dont care i guess you didnt use it right ddue i dont care about your stupid comment soo just plz shut up

[atg27111]

@neilmma stop replying if you dont want to read what i got to say

[neilmma]

@atg27111 ahah i just basically said tht whast are u trying to do get the last word or something? ahah give it a break

[atg27111]

@neilmma what r u 12?

[aucteakwondomaster]

what an idiot, he is a disegrace for TKD and give shame for those who use tkd sucessfully in kickboxing (e.g. keiji ozeki, sherkan yilmaz). well nice kick from the MT guy

[franko10ful]

woo es cinturon negro? ja prefiero mil vecs el muay

[topkaful]

OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!! WTF TKD MAN IS NOOOOOOB........ they giving theme black belts... above 1 years training..... this is crazy .... :S

[CodenameAdidas]

knock down flawless victory

[Navyseals3]

Is this fake??

[Slayeroid]

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa

[Slayeroid]

@Slayeroid btw i do tae kwon do but can't stop laughing.

[BuySomethingWillYa]

I did six years of Taekwondo and a few years of Muay Thai and let me say, as much as people love to bash TKD to make themselves feel tougher, in all fairness, that TKD fighter obviously sucked. His footwork was terrible.

Taekwondo is not a "top-tier" street combat martial art, but don't judge it by this one pussy.

[khairuleven]

putting disadvantage on himself.he deserve it.unrealistic version of tkd

[sevensixtwomm]

Olympic TKD that only promotes the use of kicks, and no guard. Of course you're gonna get the fuck knocked out of you.

[arwidcool]

Lmfao thats why WTF takwondo sux... when you see them fight you say... what the fuck

[mongolnudraga]

Comparing martial art is stupid, but must compare the fighters. There are many great TKD fighters who can break that Muay Thai guy into pieces..

[chiconspiracy]

@mongolnudraga

So you have to find "great" TKD fighters to fight an average no-name Thai boxer....

I think I know why I went with Muay Thai to begin with.

[mongolnudraga]

@chiconspiracy : i didn't mean that. i was just saying that there are many better tkd fighters than this weak dude

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy I agree with mongulnudraga... It's all about the fighter.

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

The fighter has a lot to do with it, but to say its ALL about the fighter is simply wrong. If a fighting style consisted of standing on one leg and windmilling, the fighter wouldn't mean shit. In the same token, Muay Thai, Kyokushin, Sanshou, ect tend to be more efficient at hitting the other guy while avoiding damage thank TKD, most kung fu, ect.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy You really don't know about fighting.

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

By your logic, training methods and techniques have nothing to do with the fight. That is IDIOTIC, plain and simple.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy It's all about the fighter. If you think thatTaekwondo/Karate is weaker then Muay Thai. Then watch this video.

Here's the link: watch?v=QvFDjvAf10o

If you watch it...You'll know. Plain and Simple. :)

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

Peter Aerts and Ernesto Hoost got the better of him, using Muay Thai. Do you think they would have done so if they used Taekwondo, or wing chun, or Tai Chi instead? Hug cross trained in Muay Thai actually, because he knew karate by itself wasn't complete enough for K-1. Don't be silly. Saying all martial arts are equal is just stupid. Some are dominant and preferred in fighting sports, because they WORK BETTER.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy Still not good enough? Ok. ONE MORE TIME!!!

Link: watch?v=10XUsQs2H1w&feature=re­lated

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

Why did you use Andy Hug as an example of TKD in the first place? He did Kyokushin/Seidokan Karate, which have more in common with Thai boxing than typical TKD/Karate styles. You showed him fighting a Thai under knockdown Karate rules as proof of "beating" Muay Thai? You also failed to answer the FACT that most dominant fighters use Muay Thai, PERIOD.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy Cuz most of the people think that Karate is weaker then Muay Thai. So im helping it too, PERIOD

You want me to help Taekwondo again? OK

Link: watch?v=-cl8_Hj3Ao0

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

Why do most people think it's weaker than Muay Thai? Are you actually saying that someone training one year in Muay Thai will be an EQUAL fighter to someone training one year in TKD? Why do people like Peter Aerts, Mike Bernardo, Ernesto Hoost Masato NOT feel the need to train TKD or Karate? Why does almost every Karate practitioner feel the need to at least cross train seriously in Muay Thai before taking part in something like K1?

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

And who the fuck are those two? Except for Andy Hug, you haven't shown me one person you can name in your favor. What are their fight records? Their names? How do you know that guy is even Muay Thai, and not standard kickboxing? How long have they trained? See, the videos you TKD defenders use as proof of equality can't even be defined. Show me a pure TKD guy at an elite level not failing. I can certainly show you HIGH LEVEL TKD guys getting beat, due to INFERIOR STYLE.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy They are FIGHTERS to be EXACT. ITS ALL ABOUT THE FREAKING FIGHTER!!!

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

You really think if Andy Hug trained in Wing Chun instead of Kyokushin and Seidokan Karate, he would have been as good of a fighter as he was? Some styles work better for MOST PEOPLE than others. If your statement was true, we'd have Tai Chi champions in K1 and Taekwondo masters holding UFC belts, a snake fist master holding the Strikeforce belt, ect ect. The reality is, some styles allow the individual to more efficiently beat up the other guy.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy You think there are no Taekwondo Experts holding UFC belts? WRONG! Incase you didn't know Anderson Silva is Taekwondo and he's a champion. Former Champ Lyoto Machida does Karate. The person who took the belt from Lyoto Machida, Shogun Rua does Karate (He's even a Blue Belt!). Taekwondo Expert Serkan Yilmaz was former K-1 champion. (He has a losing record now tho). Former K-1 Champion Andy Hug, (He never continued to be a Champ because of his death or he lost to some guy,I think).

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

Fail. Anderson Silva uses MUAY THAI in his fights, he says so himself. If you look at his instruction series, he shows Muay Thai, not karate, not TKD. Just because he trained it doesn't mean he uses it. Lol, Shogun, MUAY THAI, beat the best Karate user in all of MMA. Andy Hug did Seidokan Karate, and Kyokushin, which have NOTHING to do with TKD. Yilmaz was a champion of what in K1? He lost to 7 people using primarily MUAY THAI. Yilmaz, BEST TKD ever in K-1, went 3 wins 7 loses!

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy FAIL. Anderson Silva used a Taekwondo's Turning Side Kick to win once,and did i ever say that Yilmaz was having a good record? I said he has losing record.

Answer This Question: DO you think its all about the fighter? Or Taekwondo is weaker? Or Taekwondo is stronger? I mean even George St. Pierre is still a champ in the UFC.

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

You really think the turning side kick is unique to TKD? Thai fighters use it too. Although, they must be doing TKD by your logic. You think using one movement that happens to exist in TKD makes him a TKD guy? George St. Pierre originally trained Kyokushin Karate, which doesn't suck like TKD. He currently trains BOXING AND MUAY THAI. Does he use TKD in his fights? Hell no.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy I SAID. Anderson did Taekwondo AND Anderson got him with a kick used in TKD and Does he use Karate in his fights? Hell Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

TKD has very few kicks that can't be attributed to another style using them FIRST. For centuries in Japan (at least) and thousands of years in China, people have been using TURNING BACK KICKS. Seidokan Karate has the jab and the cross...does that mean when I'm in a boxing gym, I'm using seidokan Karate? Fuck no. Same with TKD. Anderson Silva says HIMSELF that he primarily uses MUAY THAI. Get over it. Muay Thai has the turning back kick. They had it before TKD EXISTED.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy But still. It's all about the fighter.

[chiconspiracy]

@ymk19

So if Shogun had used only Tai Chi tactics against Machida, by your logic, he would still have won. When I stopped doing useless wing chun, and started lessons in Muay Thai, I just MAGICALLY became a better fighter. You know, since the style doesn't matter.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy ??? Whaddya mean?

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy Cancel the Shogun Rua part. xD

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy I'll cancel the Shogun part (He isn't Taekwondo or Karate). I'll replace it with Champion George St. Pierre.

[ymk19]

@chiconspiracy Its all about the fighter.

[TAC412]

0:13 the muay thai guy said, "stop jumping around bitch! now bow!" lol

[garveyli]

Jumping forward with his open arm... Of course he is gonna get Knock out...

Also the Thai boy punch him in the face in the beginning.

[MartialValor]

YOU SEE? TKD IS TTHE BEST! lol

[joyouslife4all]

wow!

great kick!!!!!

got em by one kick!

[ninjazz]

where can I find martial arts schools in Chengdu?

Anyone who know pls inform me.

[LieCheatSteal4]

yeahh find any let me know tooo please :)

[81chiry]

ese flaco no sabe nada desen cuenta q ni caminar sabia es re cualquiera es re trucha esa pelea x no lo ponen a ese de muay con alguien q sepa de verdad ridiculos

[dannielpreto]

LOL the ref has no business handling the fighters LOL he tried to help him and just threw him. Nice timing by the kickboxer though he timed the TKDs guys move nicely.

[Roddykm77]

Getting kick from a muithai fighter is like getting hit with a baseball bat. Basically from the knee down to the ankle muithai fighter aim for bone to bone contact. If u don't trained for pain like those fighters. U will feel it n really feel it the next day. Trust me I study taekwondo before n spar with muithai fighters. Our biggest flaws is that we don't train for pain n our body aren't used to taking bone to bone hits.

[a13grace]

lol

[phamjthaisbaor]

this tkd guy doesn't look like a real black belt

just white belt

[ZEN824]

@phamjthaisbaor of course, even I can Knocked him down like that. he is a black belt with a skill of white belt.

[phamjthaisbaor]

It's fake!

[shinmajuk23]

The TKD guy looks really out of shape and fat. I'd like to see a real match than this piece of crap.

[SinclairCeltics1990]

OMG Muay Thai! LOL

[thewhoopimen]

omg... wtf...what is with the TKD guy dropping his guard and charging in like that.

[leotaebo]

When you fight against other disciplines., Always keep their guard up, like taekwondo players always make that mistake. not also forget that our taekwondo is a martial art, not just a sport

[ZEN824]

@leotaebo man, i think he even doesn't deserved a taekwondo black belt because it is an honor for it. he is suck! even if he is not in taekwondo and maybe in muay thai or kickboxing, he is still sucks.. I will never call him a taekwondo black belt, he deserves a white belt.

[poolboyinla]

looks fake

[Xnake]

He tried to fight like he would fight another WTF TKD practitioner. Huge mistake. You have to adapt your system...

[nanhuazhenren]

Nice KO.

Still a person has lost the fight, not a system.