Paint Walls Very Fast - Paint Pad Method (clip)

[plestes]

I paint for a living , an Im telling you there is no way the pad can hold enough paint. to make this any faster. the video lies. why would a painter put drops down for 1 an not the other.

[Timliesl]

@plestes I too am a skeptic about new things. I don't have money to throw around creating lies. I used the pad method for over 15 years professionally. The roller has as much speed as the pad, but cannot be used to cut-in much. this is one major way that makes the pad so fast. Also, if you know how to control the drips (which I go into in the full 28 min video), you don't need a drop because the pad doesn't spin and produce a fine splatter, thus removing the need for a drop much of the time.

[upfish]

i like paint pads cos they're less messy than rollers and faster than brushes, but can anyone suggest a way to avoid the stripes/tramlines effect?

[Timliesl]

@upfish What brand of paint pad are you using? The Padco pads have a more dense "flocking" (the fine bristles) than the others. This makes it so that the lines are more fine and less noticeable. However, if you are trying to paint in smooth walls, this will be more of an issue than other textures. On smooth-wall, everything shows up. The type/brand of paint can also contribute toward the "striping". I am assuming that the striping is the fine lines produced by the bristles.

[LunarHalo50]

given everything else equal, the prep, nail pops, etc etc, why does it take someone 4 hours before they even begin to pain a wall

[Timliesl]

@LunarHalo50 - It just depends on how much prep needs to be done. It doesn't always take 4 hours to prep. If the wall is clean enough and has no holes - you can set up and paint.

[MegaBrassneck]

It looks good...

[Timliesl]

@MegaBrassneck It can also look bad if not done carefully.

[HeyyHuda]

very cool, i think ill purchase one, ill let you guys know if it worked out for me or not

[Timliesl]

The pad works for dark colors, but I have said before that it is not that great for cutting in high contrast. The pad is not putting the brush out of work, it can be used to team up with a brush in this case. This can still save time by possibly not needing drops

[Timliesl]

I am not sure what you mean by "patches", but the pad is great for touching up. It feathers extremely well to blend in wall patches, if that is what you are asking about. Watch out on touching up smooth walls that have not been back-rolled--it may still flash on you.

[Timliesl]

Also, I am not saying the paint pad is good for all painting, what I am saying is that it is another tool that can be added to the basic list--the roller, brush, airless sprayer, HVLP sprayer, and the pad. That is my basic list. If you don't have a sprayer, a roller, a brush (or more), etc, is the rag faster? The paint pad is faster (and better) in a good number of applications than all the rest of the tools. I'm sorry to go on so long--thanks for commenting! Tim V.

[Timliesl]

It isn't that well known yet. Most Contractors that I know of that use paint pads, use them for closet, kitchen, and bath repaints. The paint pad method has been used mostly to do rental turnover repaints -- these people are often lone self-employed painters like the way I started out. Also, homeowners used it. People I hired to paint for me were often skeptical like you, but when they did piecework, they made more money after they learned the method (using the right tools of course).

[Timliesl]

The best paint pad that I know of is the Padco shake painters attached to a Sherlock 2'-4' ext. pole. Padco, Inc. in Minneapolis is the inventor of the pad. They didn't know of the method I used until about 5-6 years ago when I sent them a demo video. Bob Janssen--the original patent holder of the paint pad--told me that he was astounded at what he saw and had never seen the paint pad used that way before. Padco sells millions of dollars of these kind of tools.

[hammerheart14]

I have been selling padco for many years, and they are by far, the best paint pads on the market!!!

[Timliesl]

I got a chance to know them a little in the last few years too and they seem to really care how they do business and are keeping their products American made.

[insideriverside]

10 minutes for that wall if fast for us mere mortals :)

[Timliesl]

I'm sure there are people that can do it faster than me--maybe better too!

[JLEspinosa]

I have to agree that is a good option, it can save some time and I can see that we can use it only when you have light paint colors and smooth walls, but try to use the pad on a textured wall and post the video with dark colors and please zoom at the cutting. Also using the pad on a wall will work as you are showing it on the video, but it may require several coats compared as the roll. Regards,

[Timliesl]

The pad that I use is good for textured walls. I like it better than using it on smooth walls. It is not great for high contrast cutting, but it still works on dark colors. How much experience do you have with this? I recommend buying my 28 minute DVD at my filmbaby link above in the info column, learn the method and we'll discuss it. My ProSpeedPainting link is down due to a domain name transfer. Thanks for posting! Tim V.

[tawkingjames79]

I use a pad all the time, for doing around cabinets and such it is very convenient. But come on- using a pad for an entire wall? With no drops? I gotta say very impressive. How much paint did you put on the wall with the pad though? And you didnt have to clean any carpets?

[Timliesl]

I didn't fake it without drops. You can put the paint on as thick as you want (until it sags or runs) or as thin as you want. You can drip on the carpet if you aren't careful-so learn to be careful. If you use a runner and aren't careful, you can drip on the runner, step on the drip and track it around the carpet. Which makes you scrub the carpet even more. The real trick is dipping out of the bucket. Most people I've trained don't want the little mini-drop under the paint bucket after 3 days.

[Timliesl]

I actually used this method in about 1500 apartment turnovers. This is not a gimmick--there are times that I tried the regular way with rollers and such, and found that I moved much faster with a pad in most cases. In order to make money on the apartments I painted, I had to use a faster method. I didn't invent this method, I just helped to perfect it and then made a "how-to" DVD. The original Idea of the DVD was to help myself spend less time training employees.

[SFConifer]

If time were the only consideration you should buy an airless sprayer

[Timliesl]

Time and quality are both considerations. I like to use the most efficient tool for the job. In this case, the masking of the non-painted woodwork would take longer than painting all the walls with a pad. For a place like the one in the video, where I may paint all the ceilings, I like to do a limited masking job and spray the ceilings out with an airless. The purpose of this video is to advertise for a method that can be added to a painter's arsenal of abilities to save time where he/she can.

[Timliesl]

For the couple of posts that thought that the right wall did not look as even as the left...The left wall hadn't started drying yet, the right wall was partially dry, so it looked a little mottled. The right wall looked as good as the left when completly dry. Thanks for your comments. Tim V.

[JhneMd]

just watched again. noticed you stayed away from that bath cabinet lol. that definitely calls for a brush. great video though. peace

[Timliesl]

Actually, in the full commercial video, I cut in sharply next to the vanity. What allows me to do this is the fact that the vanity trim is smooth (an not porous). I can remove any small amount of residue with a clean damp rag if I need to. This part of the technique can require a little practice. You can still slip with the brush if you get in too much of a hurry, and have to use a damp rag anyway. I appreciate your questions, and feedback. Take care.

[JhneMd]

what if some clown comes in and accidentally falls over your bucket and u have a few gallons of paint on the carpet and no drop cloth? ive seen it happen.who wants a pad brushed wall? the roller gives a subtle texture look on the wall the way its supposed to be. there s no way that thing could make a perfect cut with dark colors next to a white ceiling.

[Timliesl]

Too many clowns, the drops go down. The same clown could dump over a bucket near the edge of a drop, too. Pad brushed walls look fine in many cases, so that depends. And, I agree with you about high contrast situations, use a brush or tape, etc. Use what ever tool is most efficient and cost effective for the particular job. The pad is just another tool.

[JhneMd]

have you tried the Accubrush yet for cutting? i saw a video of it on here somewhere. ive tried all the gimmick stuff in the past but the accubrush i saw on here looked like it might actually have potential. i may get one just to give it a fair chance. the fastest way to paint walls is to use my $5000.00 sprayer lol. i'll try your pad idea one day before i knock it though.

[Timliesl]

I have not yet tried it. I am also slow to adopt new tools. I have used the paint pad for nearly 15 years, the brush and roller longer, and airless sprayers past the point of tendonitis. The airless is fast, but not if there is massive amounts of masking to do. If you try the pad, get the Padco red handled 8 inch shake painter. The other brands are not as good.

[incisionsound]

oh smearing paint on the walls yeah that looks professional lol

[Timliesl]

The paint flows off of the pad like a wide brush. There are rollers, brushes, airless paint sprayers, HVLP guns, and paint pads. All of these are tools for painters. If you scoff at painting with pads, you will be like all the people that scoffed at the roller. The roller was thought a toy by many old timers. If you don't learn to use the pad, you will be wasting time and money on jobs where the pad works best.. Those who experiment are the ones that learn new things.

[mmodnao]

Thank you.

[sweetrage101]

I don't understand. Why doenst the pad drip? Is it really true that you don't need tape or cloth and plastic on the floor?

[Timliesl]

The pad wont splatter because no spinning motion. If the user puts paint on the pad and slings it around, or is careless, it will make a mess. The full how-to DVD, the video clip represents, goes more in depth into this. Tape can be eliminated for much of painting. Still, sometimes tape is needed, but far less often--this can save significant time and supplies. It takes a little courage in the beginning to not use drops, but in the end, you may see the drops as a false sense of security. Tim V.

[sweetrage101]

Thanks for responding and forgive my typos. I was tying to fast.

[Reloader1]

Excellent!

[spawnergr]

Nice. I'm gonna try it!! :)

[sebadaba]

Wow. It's new to me. Thanks.