Red Letters

[pistislj]

I so very much enjoy hearing the two of you singing together. One voice is a tad more raspy and the other is clear and strong -- so very much LOVE the combination!! Please sing more worship songs together! Love your voices -- but, especially hearing your hearts as you worship! Such a Blessing!!!

[luisaferish]

me gustaria saber si el es Toby mac en su juventud el video se ve un poco viejillo, me encanta la voz de ellos dos.gracias

[longlastinglife]

Great job guys! Sing unto LORD!

[muttonstew99]

Great song and nicely performed.

[gelmanwc]

Very nicely done and quite close to the original! Very powerful!

[peoplematter14]

Thanks for this song. It's what I needed to hear!! You guys rock!

[terriergal]

speaking of negativity

kill riley twice the upstanding young Christian (must be, since he likes the song) told me in my inbox--

you suck. Yeah just read your comments on the Red Letters video. You wrote them a long time ago, but you're so gay! Ahhh!  you sing like a freakin' zombie. Like...blahhhh blahh blahh I'm already tired of you after 5 seconds. Then you're all like, ahh this guy is pitchy and flat. Well at least people can listen to him and not fall asleep. Go learn music.

[terriergal]

I'm postitive about being negative (when warranted) & postitive about being positive.

[peoplematter14]

Let go of control.

Allow God to work in your life.

There is LOVE in the Red Letters.

Great song guys.

[gwennylou]

Ahh yes. The guy in the green shirt's name is Seth Bible, a friend of mine actually, and he and my sister were just in a recording studio a few weeks ago working on a compilation album due out in early June. Seth is a great talent. If you thought he was good at singing, he's even better at playing guitar.

[thoughnonegowithme1]

This is also my favorite special from gcc. Thank you to all the people who work so hard week after week to contribute to the service in the form of singing and in such creative ways. You all have really blessed our family. You always put forth your very best for God and seek to honor Christ. What you do is so appreciated.

[peoplematter14]

It's hard to see love when things are bad! Even though we say that God's grace is sufficient...it's hard to be content with just God's grace. Help me God to surrender it all and rely totally on You.

[iamlitmuspaper]

Awesome!

[kbooeee]

I would have given them a standing ovation if I had been there!!

Outstanding...I hope they will perform

this again. One problem..this song is

now stuck in my head!

[gailjon]

amazing job! I love this song, and you all did this cover so well.

[babznme]

Hey xsgtusmc Jesus would be eating at their house How about yours? Jesus said do not criticise lest you be measured by the same It also says Jesus had long hair You going to hate & seperate those who Christ would reach out to? There will be weeping and nashing of teeth Just not from whom you think. Praise God for the red letters! Great song guys. Love it! I want to sing it at my church!

[trorie83]

oh...and one more thing...we'll all most likely be buying the other guy's album one day. He's great.

[trorie83]

I'm actually one of the guys singing...ya, the pitchy one. I was pretty frustrated when I saw this video for the first time, because I totally didn't hear myself falling flat live. Zark, you're right about in-ears. I have a far easier time staying on pitch without them. Since this performance I've started keeping one ear monitor out, and it seems to have helped. Thanks for everyone who said constructive things. It helps me improve. For those who didn't like it, well...sorry!

[peoplematter14]

These guys are good.

[peoplematter14]

This is good.

[edmpages]

one of my favorite songs. great job guys :)

[092489sox]

The whole point of the song, isn't about how pitchy it is or isn't, or that all the Simon Cowell's of the world like it or not, but that God's word is a safe place. However, alot of ppl in situations like this only read the bible to condemn others...

[092489sox]

P.S. There is condemnation and rebuke in Red letters, so let the one who has authority do that otherwise you become pharisees and no one wants that

[xsgtusmc]

Here are some red letters for you: Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Some black letters: 1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

[JuddGregg]

Paul is saying, "Isn't it normal or natural for the man to have short hair and the woman to have long hair?" The answer to this is yes. But care must be exercised when administering this. The length of men's hair in New Testament times was longer than what some people claim to be natural today We need to be careful that Jesus and the disciples would not be considered "hippies" by what we call normal.

[JuddGregg]

Paul simply drew on a custom of the day to illustrate that he (Paul) was not anybody's spiritual head. They (men and women) were under submission to Christ and women also should submit to their husbands. That was it. That was his point. He was not trying to establish a dress code for all ages.

[JuddGregg]

People who have tried to use these scriptures to freeze the length of men's hair styles to those of the 1950's are misapplying these scriptures. The scriptures never specified how short short was. According to writings of the first century, the typical Jewish man's hair length was to his shoulders. This would be unacceptable to those who use these scriptures to be contentious.

I noticed you are a pastor you should have known better.

Btw, we can't make ourselves "perfect" you should know that.

[JuddGregg]

Our standard of conduct and goal should always be perfection even as God is perfect (Gen. 17:1; Lev. 19:2; 1 Pet. 1:15-16). It's always a mistake to use anyone or anything else as our standard (2 Cor. 10:12). However, we cannot obtain sinless perfection through our effort. Even the apostle Paul had not obtained perfection (Phil. 3:12), but was still pressing towards the mark. We must be trusting the righteousness of God applied to us by faith and not our own righteousness (Phil. 3:9).

[BoominTmac3]

ok who the heck is tht singing ?!?

tht is SO not tobyMac or Kevin Max and its So not Tait.

WHO IS THT ???

[terriergal]

geez he drags the other guy down in pitch too when they sing in unison. News flash guys, the instruments can't hang just under the pitch with you!

What's all this yelling stuff in the bridge?

I find lots of hope in the black letters too. What's next? Granger promoting heretic "red letter" Christians like Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo?

[jtman54159]

wow that's a lot of negativity. First, the song was done by dcTalk, so if you want to complain about the message.....

Second, anyone who is brave enough to sing in front of an audience should be applauded

[terriergal]

I have sung in front of an audience, are you going to applaud me?

I'm very positive about being positive, and postive about being negative. When it's warranted. The song says nothing, regardless of who wrote it.

[zark1959]

I saw a couple of videos on your page. Was that you singing? Very nice, you have a very good sense of pitch, although your voice is somewhat sterile and unemotional. I would like to know, have you ever sang with a full band in a concert setting with in ear monitors? Singing along to a piano in your living room is a lot easier. Personally, I would rather listen to a singer that's a little pitchy, but sings with great emotion. You've got good pitch, now work on the feeling part. God bless, peace!

[terriergal]

thank you. Yes, I know I can fake emotion if I would like to, but I would rather not manipulate people in that way. if the message doesn't speak, it's not a good worship song. I have sung in the minnesota chorale and many local productions, solos, small groups, etc. In theater settings I can emote all you want, but I am not going to sound like when harry met sally just to convince people I really feel it.

[terriergal]

btw I tune pianos so I better have a sense of pitch. Most people can't hear what i hear. I'm sure there are others who can hear more than I can. Much like some people can see better than others at farther distances.

[zark1959]

Look at your second sentence. That speaks volumes right there. Our Church liked the performance. There may have been a couple of people that thought it was pitchy, out of the five thousand or so that experienced it that weekend. So what.

[terriergal]

You also have to realize that singing in front of a small church is a completely different venue than singing on a stage like that. It would not be appropriate in my church setting to get all wild and crazy. I have sometimes cried and been unable to finish songs. (shrug) I cry when I sing in the pew sometimes. Does that count? People judge too quickly by what they see on a stage. Much like what is on TV - you can make "anything" look real on a stage or TV.

[terriergal]

oh... come to think of it, that isn't me singing in our living room. That was my then-15 year old LEARNING a song for her major part in the community theater production. And no, her ear is not as good as I'd like, but she does ok and is quite comfortable on stage for her age.

By the way have you ever tried to sing when you really are emotional? It doesn't work. Like try whistling when you are smiling. It doesn't work. So every time you see an emotional singer, IT IS AN ACT.

[zark1959]

How sad if you truly believe that. I was the guitarist on that song and I can tell you that I can get emotional playing a song, and singers get emotional singing songs, and it is not fake. There are times I have been brought to tears through the power of worship. Again, God Bless you, and I hope you remember this thread in the future when someone critiques you or you daughters singing.

[Morodiene]

When emotions overcome you, the larynx comes up high to where it is for swallowing ("choked up") and you're lucky if you can croak out a sound that is any semblance of singing. Singers are actors, that is what they do. The better they act, the more convincing they are. I don't begrudge anyone of that, I'm just saying. The "emotion" you hear in their voices are techniques used to allude to emotions. As far as pitchiness: His issues come from constriction and not an inability to sing in tune.

[BigBoiJC]

@terriergal Ma'am, I respectfully disagree about it being an act. I was playing piano and singing a song called "Somebody's Praying". When i hit the last line of the bridge "..and lord I thank you for those people praying all this time for me..." and went back into the first verse...it was all i could do to even think of how that first verse went because I was choking up because of the power of the message behind the song.

[nl6125]

what's wrong with jim wallis and tony campolo?

Oh, is it because they question government? Or promote peace? Peace, what a detestable suggestion.

[terriergal]

No, because they are apostates.

[terriergal]

That first guy needs a sense of pitch. He's flat too often.

[anoniab]

Seems like a nice song, but isn't there something written about all Scripture being profitable? (not to mention there is also rebuke and condemnation in the red letters)

[terriergal]

> isn't there something written about all Scripture being >profitable? (not to mention there is also rebuke and >condemnation in the red letters)

Details, details. Granger isn't worried about the details.

[cds62]

Seth, American Idol material!

[tlh4001]

I attend GCC and this has to be the best performance I have EVER heard. I can't get enough of listening to this song. It's absolutely amazing.

[Angelique813]

S & T...YOU GUYS ARE WAYYY BEYOND AMAZING!!

GCC has some of the most phenomenal artists and this is by far my favorite performance...ever! Way to go guys...

Ok...now we need MORE :0]

[MadameLady]

Ooh, you got this one up quick. C=

I loved this performance. I know most everyone else did, too. It got a standing ovation for two of the five services(the ones with the most attendance). It was amazing.

The song gets stuck in my head all the time now, though. xD