Crashlab head-on crash test video

[2004PontiacGTO]

not bad for 100ks an hour

[counkev]

At 60kmph you will most defiantly survive but at 100kmph you are most likely dead.

[TheSonicq8]

sucks car low quality really sorry asturalia

[NowForTruth]

haha I got this model commodore

[MREURONCAP]

G is over 9000!

[aoxilus]

incredible how they reconstructed the car to used in the second video amazing!

[Steelhawk92]

@aoxilus I hope that was an intentional joke. :P

[aoxilus]

jejej

[SteelCity1981]

What type of car is this?

[stonee206]

@SteelCity1981 Holden Commodore

[rodsterau]

DIE COMMODORE DIE!

[tcpnetworks]

Deceleration is a squared function - the formula is

(initial velocity - final velocity)/ time

So - hitting the SAME wall at 60 and 100 KM/h will result in significantly greater deceleration damage. Each kilometre adds double the deceleration effect.

The person would have been killed in the 100KM/h deceleration here as his body was subjected to over 200G. The highest human survival rate is a little over 80G

[GoranMPG]

i tought thad diference will be much more...

[Planeguy13]

The NHTSA conducts crash tests of vehicles at 35MPH into a fixed, solid, non-moving wall. This test simulates two of the exact same (or very similar) cars crashing head on each traveling at 35mph.

[stonee206]

looks like a mix of a Opel Omega and a GTO

[duhabcdef]

omg i used to drive one of these abt 5yrs ago :o

[chicorompecabesa]

What kind of car is that?

[shenuk]

Its a Holden Commodore VT. Australian car.

[HenryDiscipline]

This is an old design but even in a new car your body will not enjoy being stopped this quickly. You may have less crush injury but you body may be damaged inside.

[forgotenstanards]

to pjh8888,the coment i made was meant for the commodore labled as china crash test not this, i deleted it,now my thoughts on this german designed car,these are defenendly stronger than old commo's,i know this, if australia refined it chassis development and we designed our own cars, like the KINGSWOOD, we would be better off, stronger ,prouder, nation, after all its an opal,holden executives sold out to line thier back pockets,once were warriors long live the HQ-WB IRON CLADS REAL HOLDENS.

[whattheheck1000]

less than 26 mph difference

[rverdoold]

Holden commodore, but that one is soled as Opel omega, Vauxhall omega and Cadillac. I think all made by opel/gm in Germany (at least the cadillacs were build in germany)

[gercog88]

When you drive even 50 and than somebody drive into your car also 50... Then is the same resalt... 100

[sujajajjaakakajjs]

no cos the other person is not driving a concrete wall

[JoeWingman]

LOL

[Ryantravisaol]

actually it is like crashing at 100. The closing speed between the two vehicles is 100. Just because the other vehicle will deform doesn't mean the closing speed is reduced. If you drive 100 into a parked car, did you crash at 100?

[sujajajjaakakajjs]

there is a difference if you crash driving at 100 into a parked car or into a concrete wall

[Ryantravisaol]

I know, that's not what i said. My point is this -two cars crashing head on while each is going 50- is 100. A car crashing into a wall going 100, is 100. A car crashing into a parked car at 100, is 100. The damage will be different because a car deforms and a wall doesn't but the fact still remains, it crashed at 100. Do you get my point?

[sujajajjaakakajjs]

ok lets see....

gercog 88: ''........same result"

me: "no"

you: "actually it is"

me: "no, there is a difference"

you: "demage will be different"

me: "ye, thats what I said in the begining....CASE CLOSED".

[Ryantravisaol]

Idiot, my point is not about damage being different, it's about how the speed doesn't change just because of what's hit. Your last comment isn't a valid example of you being correct.

[sujajajjaakakajjs]

youre a sad spammer, I wasnt talking about the speed either but you started trolling. just shut up and enjoy the video.

[Ryantravisaol]

Relax yourself, calling people names in an attempt to prove dominance only shows ignorance and weakness. Enjoy being a second class, uneducated citizen. And yes, you were CLEARLY talking about speed but since I have you backed into a corner now you revert to name calling and insults. Like a scared barking dog.

[duhabcdef]

LOL u ownd him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[panictactics]

Going 50 and having a head on with a similar vehicle also going 50 is not like hitting a wall at 100. Head on: 50 to zero. Wall: 100 to zero. Clown.

[Ryantravisaol]

Thats actually not true. Two cars, each traveling at 50mph, have a closing speed of 100mph. When they hit it is a 100mph crash for all individuals involved. The forces are different than that of a wall becuase cars...move and crumple, which lessen the forces but do not change the speed of the accident. Just the speed at which your body and organs slow. Clown? I don't feel funny.

[panictactics]

Fuck the closing speed. You are confused. Travelling at 50 and having a head on with a similar vehicle also travelling at 50 will cause you (and the other) to abruptly come to a stop from 50. This is comparable to hitting a wall at 50 as this will also cause you to come to an abrupt stop from 50.

[Ryantravisaol]

I really don't think you understand and I don't know why you are cursing. 2 cars moving towards each other at 25mph each have a closing speed of 50. When they hit its like crashing into a deformable wall at 50. They dont cancel each other out, they double the speed. Sorry that you don't understand but there is no need to be ignorant.

[panictactics]

It's like I'm talking to a deformable wall.  You're either stubbornly unwilling or too stupid to grasp a simple concept. I suggest it's the latter.

[Ryantravisaol]

maybe neither of us are fully explaining our meanings. two cars crashing head on at 50 have a closing speed of 100. Meaning all passangers feel the same force of a crash at 100 but, neither car was actually going 100 they were only traveling at 50. True, each car is only traveling at 50mph but also true that they crash at a force equal to 100.

[panictactics]

Not sure why this is such a struggle for you. Closing speed is irrelevant for vehicles of the same mass. I'll try again. Hitting a wall at 50 will cause deceleration from 50 - zero in a split second. In the head on scenario the collision will cause each vehicle to ALSO decelerate from 50 - zero in a split second. Same deceleration/g-force. The principles of physics are not up for debate here. You are wrong.

[Ryantravisaol]

You're wrong. The force isnt 50 at that point, its doubled because they are both traveling at 50. The destruction and forces are significantly different. Im not saying there individual speed has changed, but together its, again, doubled. Pretty elemetry.

[panictactics]

Good on you.

[kabam02]

@Ryantravisaol The crash stays as 50kmh damage, but for both cars. this is because hitting the other car going 50 is the same as hitting an imovalbe object (wall) there is no difference in damage or gforce but both both cars experence it

the speed cancels out. if one car was going slower it would be over powered by the other and damage would be separated accordingly.

[panictactics]

How about this: Car1 going 80 head on with Car2 going 20 (closing speed of 100). Will the experience for each be like hitting a wall at 100? Will one be better off?

[kingcrumpet]

Lets clear this up a bit for you because it is YOU who is confused. If two identical cars have a head on accident at 50 each, the amount of DAMAGE on both of the vehicles will be as if ONE car crashes into a wall at 100... FACT. You are right in saying that the force experience by the DRIVER is equivalent to deceleration from 50-0. But the important thing is that the momentum of both cars crashing at 50 (head on) will cause the same damage as if one car crashes into a wall at 100. Think about it

[kingcrumpet]

I don't know about you but I'd rater crash into a wall at 50 than have a fucking head on with another car also traveling at 50. There is a big difference which is what "Ryantravisaol" was trying to point out. (Granted he didn't communicate his point very clearly). Have a nice day, and also... I'm not interested in having a fight with you so can we plz keep it civil?

[panictactics]

You wrote 'fact' in capital letters. I can't beat that argument.

Idiot.

[kingcrumpet]

I did that to emphasise the FACT that I'm right and you're a joke of a human being. Only such a person would feel the need to belittle another because he made a civil point. Now ask yourself, who's the real idiot?

[sparks12001]

@panictactics The car's will both experience damage as if it were crashed into a wall at 100 mph, however, the 20 mph driver would be far better off because the body undergoes a 20mph decelleration force which is far more mild than the man with 80mph decelleration force, assuming that the safety cage on both cars hold intact, the 20 mph driver would be much more likely to survive, given that the 80mph driver would probably have broken ribs from the seatbelt, and a smashed open head.

[panictactics]

You're way off.

[sparks12001]

@panictactics How do you respond to a comment i haven't made, i cannot find my comment on this page, deleted or otherwise, regardless, 20mph would be much more survivable because it is less stop force on the BODY, PASSENGER, Not the car. Do you understand?

[sparks12001]

@panictactics Not only that it seems like you are crashing and burning in your arguement with ryan, maybe your just an idiot, who knows. I do know this :3, I'm blocking you.

[panictactics]

How did you get a reply to your comment in your inbox if you didn't make one? Idiot.

And now you're blocking me? What, from replying again? Hahaha... What a little fuck head you must be!

Go and see if your physics teacher agrees with you, you dumb kid.

[cameron20020]

@sujajajjaakakajjs

yes, but the other person would also probably be traveling at you at the same speed, thus making the colision speed double that of what you are doing. not good i say

[counkev]

@sujajajjaakakajjs Well if you hit another car you have two cars going at 60kmph or 100kmph but they move after impact. But with the wall its one vehicle at 60kmph or 100kmph and only one car moves

[sacr3]

@sujajajjaakakajjs The other person could be driving a Truck, which is worse than a concrete wall because not only will you come to a sudden stop, you'll be sent in the opposite direction.. that will surely end your life.

[AUS86MX]

australia holden commodore VT 98 to 01

[aenigmate]

Impressed by how well supported a 100 kmh impact... where is this car from?

[tin701]

It is a Holden VT commodore from Australia

[Wiishit23456withvids]

what is weird about this test is that i don´t see any crash symbols

[GMminivans9968]

What car is this? Please!

[GMminivans9968]

It's, it's a Commodore!

[TapTapTido]

Holden Comador

[karkraz]

WOW what kind of car is that?? whatever it is it did a great job of absorbing that impact at both speeds

[jimking19]

That's a Holden VT Commodore 1998 - 2000

[smartestinUSA]

what is kind car of?

[Frankie98924]

Holden Commodore.

[mkgamesdotnet]

This car still looks like POS, something like an 08 Accord or Camry or other strong framed car would've held up in the 100K/PH test without crushing in as far as this vehicle....

[Jubbbbb]

This car is 11 years old. Do you think a '97 Accord or Camry would do better?

[cirenow]

Yes they do better. See iihs test.

[Jubbbbb]

I don't need to bother. An IIHS is an offset test which is a completely different way of testing the cars structure. ANCAP does the exact same test as IIHS and they concluded for this car "12.79 out of 16 in the offset crash test. The passenger compartment held its shape well". This is at 64km/h.

[cirenow]

Jubbbb/

Don't you know the difference between

frontal test and OFFSET test?

even crappy chinese cars perform well in the type of test shown in the video.

[Jubbbbb]

I suppose your reference to Chinese cars doing well in full frontal tests means they're easy. They are easy that's why only NHTSA does them and other reputable agencys do offset tests. You can't compare full frontal and offset tests. Thats why when you said Accords etc do well in IIHS tests (offset) I gave you the result of the Commodore in an OFFSET which is at least as good as an Accord (13/16). Its stupid to compare this full frontal test with an offset Accord test like you said to do earlier

[cirenow]

jubbb// no im not mentioning about chinese cars. And i don't even trust their test procedures and results anyway, so nope.

I was EMPHASIZING that FRONTAL test is THAT MUCH easier than OFFSET test. No, idk about chink cars.

And i haven't mentioned NHTSA, but IIHS. And it did perform better.

[mkgamesdotnet]

Flat tests are for less severe from frontal tests. Any car that does well in an offset will do good in a frontal; however, not all cars that do good in a frontal do good in an offset.

[mkgamesdotnet]

Not an Accord, but a Camry, yes definatly.

[snaffta01]

Very hard to tell if this car had an engine in the engine bay really. just squished with no visual of any mechanicals inside or anywhere? Even the engine? would be 250kgs+ longitudinal V6 and suspension towers squished into that?

[Mechknight73]

The car they had originally evolved from was longitudinal 6 cylinder and V8 respectively. In models after 1988, they were fitted with V6 and V8 engines. As the engine mounts were set back from where they would be on the straight 6, they are further away from the front of the car. The front of the crossmember, forward of the strut towers, there is a deformable section, designed to absorb impact in a crash. To say this car is a "rebadged Opel" is the height of ignorance. Far too many things differ

[Mechknight73]

For reference sake, the engine, with parts attached, would weigh about 180kgs (alloy heads, and lots of alloy parts) A 1970s Holden V8 weighs about 220kgs with everything attached. The descendant of this car became the Pontiac G8 in America. For an American "muscle car" it handles like a BMW M3 compared to its opposition.

[loulew]

holy shit...

[sexyton1988]

is this in km/h or mph??

[pjh8888]

km/h

[whattheheck1000]

if it was in mph the top car would look like the bottom one and the bottom one would be pieces

[crazeguy26]

@sexyton1988 the 60km/h is 37 in mph and 100 km/h in 62 mph

[ovillium]

@crazeguy26 100 is only 60, not 62 lol 2 mph out ... haha

[3OnLyOnE]

nice wreckage

[460T]

Deverian emitirlo por television para que la gente tubiese conciencia de lo que es la velocidad.

[Rowdyeh]

nicest thing that could happen to a holden!