@BugabooTucker that was a double fisher man knot a single fisher man you wrap only once. your thinking of a grape vine knot which is to apposing double fisher man knots (grape vine knot also known as double fisher man knot even though it uses two double fisher man knots
the Figure Eight Follow Through is also called a Surgeon's Knot or a Surgeon's Loop. The technique used in this video is actually harder than that employed by flyfishermen.
Also, you've only shown the single fisherman's knot, the double fisherman's knot is employed when we join two lines or two ropes together. As such, you need two lines.
embarrassed to say, the figure eight took me the whole first lesson to get a hang of cause I couldn't really tell which one's the reference rope that I should follow.
The SINGLE fisherman's knot should be as close to the figure eight as possible- this will keep it from sliding down the rope and loosening up. Also, some inexperienced climbers tying a figure eight on a bite attached to a belay loop with a beaner may tie this back-up knot too high, then later on re-clip the slacked loop created by the fisherman's after it has loosened up due to the high placement. Bad idea... just make sure there is more than 8 inches of tail after tying the retraced 8.
technically, you should not have to de the fisherman knot in the end... this should be done only if you have too much rope coming out of the figure eight, which shouldn't happens once you get used to it.
Also, if you have enouh rope to do that, there is another thing you should do instead. can't explain it with word but anyway, the rope can be passed another time in the figure 8, to go back toward you. it help you untie the knot, without having chances of it slipping.
It doenst have a name.. one of my friend invented it (although I'm sure he's not the first one to do it). Then he brought that to a place where they have a machine to test the stenght of the knot to be sure it doen't affect the quality of the knot, and it did not affect the knot in any point. It simply make it easier to untie after a big fall. I don't see how I could show it to you guys though... I have nothing to record me doing it :S
NO, only the figure 8 with the fishermen knot should be used to rope your self into the harness, the bowline is not reliable and can slip when force it put to it. Also the rope is elastic, meaning it stretches so the bowline knot can slip out.
There are plenty of sources that state that at least some variations on the bowline are safe for climbing. (See, e.g., The Mountaineering Handbook by Connelly.) In fact, there is a variation that is sometimes called a bowline with Yosemite finish that, by my understanding, comes from climbers in Yosemite.
I suggest that backing up the bowline is a good idea (as opposed to the retraced figure eight, where it mostly serves to make sure there's enough tail), as the bowline is more prone to slip.
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thumlyly 2 months ago
@thumlyly Look at his harnass and try to find the two tie-in loops .. gogogog I dare u
MarioatSA 3 weeks ago
Superb video! The directions are very clear and easy to follow. Keep up the awesome how-to's!
KnifeHQ 3 months ago
Thanks
toastedmonkeys 11 months ago
i can tie my shoes
zman117 11 months ago 8
old style?
blazessing 1 year ago
Dude i think he needs a mango
geomonger 1 year ago
@BugabooTucker Actually the 'double' refers to how many loops you make. A single fisherman's would only make one loop for the end to go through.
Mykified 1 year ago
so easy to tie this knot
alexander9699 1 year ago
great video
kaliguy05 1 year ago 5
@BugabooTucker that was a double fisher man knot a single fisher man you wrap only once. your thinking of a grape vine knot which is to apposing double fisher man knots (grape vine knot also known as double fisher man knot even though it uses two double fisher man knots
TheDanielRagsdale 1 year ago
That Fishermans looks like a blood knot.
icychap 1 year ago
the Figure Eight Follow Through is also called a Surgeon's Knot or a Surgeon's Loop. The technique used in this video is actually harder than that employed by flyfishermen.
Also, you've only shown the single fisherman's knot, the double fisherman's knot is employed when we join two lines or two ropes together. As such, you need two lines.
plasterdbastard 1 year ago
Love it
rap9206 1 year ago
its very hard
flipperwavy 2 years ago
Thanks! Just had my first lesson - and was worried I'd forget it next week.
WolfriksWorld 2 years ago
embarrassed to say, the figure eight took me the whole first lesson to get a hang of cause I couldn't really tell which one's the reference rope that I should follow.
pussiestroker 2 years ago
@pussiestroker same here...I felt dumb...but it's not that easy
intotheblue222 1 year ago
@intotheblue222 I wanna climb so bad but I don't have a belayer :(
pussiestroker 1 year ago
The SINGLE fisherman's knot should be as close to the figure eight as possible- this will keep it from sliding down the rope and loosening up. Also, some inexperienced climbers tying a figure eight on a bite attached to a belay loop with a beaner may tie this back-up knot too high, then later on re-clip the slacked loop created by the fisherman's after it has loosened up due to the high placement. Bad idea... just make sure there is more than 8 inches of tail after tying the retraced 8.
Smethjt05 2 years ago
spot on
holybrady3000 2 years ago
technically, you should not have to de the fisherman knot in the end... this should be done only if you have too much rope coming out of the figure eight, which shouldn't happens once you get used to it.
Also, if you have enouh rope to do that, there is another thing you should do instead. can't explain it with word but anyway, the rope can be passed another time in the figure 8, to go back toward you. it help you untie the knot, without having chances of it slipping.
turmat01 2 years ago
Can you share with us the name of that knot? I'm interested in it!
csheldonargh 2 years ago
It doenst have a name.. one of my friend invented it (although I'm sure he's not the first one to do it). Then he brought that to a place where they have a machine to test the stenght of the knot to be sure it doen't affect the quality of the knot, and it did not affect the knot in any point. It simply make it easier to untie after a big fall. I don't see how I could show it to you guys though... I have nothing to record me doing it :S
turmat01 2 years ago
I tried to do a drawing if it... its bad, but it could help you understand... PM me your email I'll send it to you...
turmat01 2 years ago
Its called a sport knot modify.
kcirtapegur 2 years ago
can you please post on here how to self belay if im climbing on my own
thanks
laidbackandfun 3 years ago
is it safe to use the bowline knot please right
transformersgod 3 years ago
NO, only the figure 8 with the fishermen knot should be used to rope your self into the harness, the bowline is not reliable and can slip when force it put to it. Also the rope is elastic, meaning it stretches so the bowline knot can slip out.
shillelaghslaw 2 years ago
There are plenty of sources that state that at least some variations on the bowline are safe for climbing. (See, e.g., The Mountaineering Handbook by Connelly.) In fact, there is a variation that is sometimes called a bowline with Yosemite finish that, by my understanding, comes from climbers in Yosemite.
I suggest that backing up the bowline is a good idea (as opposed to the retraced figure eight, where it mostly serves to make sure there's enough tail), as the bowline is more prone to slip.
EvanED 2 years ago
Thanks! IT was easy to follow!
vethejazi 3 years ago
great refresher video
julara13 3 years ago
great
cruse13 3 years ago
thank you!! this helped a lot
extracoolperson01 3 years ago
thx
lateddie 4 years ago