big black is ok, can't stand the drums but Steve, talking about the music industry and sell outs, sonic youth should be embarassed, maybe they should? but Steve is not much different, he may be matter of fact in his album credits, he's getting paid large sums of money to record bands like Nirvana, or the Pixies, the Stooges, great he doesn't get royalties, he is still collecting money from major labels...and for what, he says he doesn't have a sound, but his name is cred, so he's sells his id
who gives a fuck if he's a misogynist.. in our days of superficial gold digging whores, its only logical to hate women... . i like him even more now!!
This video was made in 2007 but if it had been broadcast three years later, the beginning with the showing of the album sleeves could have include The Weirdness by the Stooges and Journal For Plagued Lovers by Manic Street Preachers.
hell yeah, f*** commercial labels and the mainstream bullshit of music. i would be doing the same thing with my recording studio, if i had one. charge bands for my time and effort, not for my equipment. i really want a studio of my own one day too. so i can stop messing around with my computer mic and record some real tracks, and help other rising musicians discover and craft their own sound
@stanfordsan Don't take this video seriously. Albini spends his time bitching about the mainstream, while producing mainstream bands...and then subsequently cashing those big fat checks. Nirvana, Bush, Veruca Salt, and The Breeders just to name a few.
The real producer to look up to, is Jack Endino. Endino produced bands BEFORE they became huge...not after. Just look at Nirvana. Endino produced their first indie record, Bleach. Albini produced their last studio mainstream record, In Utero.
When I was younger & my exposure to music was growing, my uncle saw I had a copy of Songs About Fucking and told me a couple of stories about Touch & Go parties and meeting Albini a handful of times. But one that stood out (and always will) is a story he told of Albini giving the bride & groom a chainsaw as a housewarming gift @ a wedding that my uncle had also been in attendence to (no idea who was getting married or when this would've been, sometime before 95 though lol)
Don't believe the hype. Albini is a professional and a gracious host. We (AVITIA) recorded with him a few weeks ago and the man was thorough and very helpful during the whole session.
Meanwhile, our hero, Flan, the Noam Chomsky of the corporate world, continues to artfully elude his own brand of hypocrisy... merely by being anonymous!
Well, for as much negativity there seems to be in the comments about Steve Albini... all I have to say is that he seems to be doing quite well with Electrical Audio. I don't know him, I can't argue his personality, but if he were "ripping people off" all of the time and was as bad as everyone seems to be saying, I honestly don't think Electrical Audio would still exist. Regardless of his personality and how much he has charged or exploited a band, I guess his work speaks for itself.
The thing is -- a lot of times that major label money is an advance to the band. They are expected to pay it back with record sales. If they don't move enough units, they are in debt. Albini hordes their wealth and sanctimoniously makes it seem like he's sticking it to the man, when in fact he is sticking it to the band. He's ruined a fair amount of bands that have fell into this trap. This documentary is one-sided and is just a poorly produced rim job.
Slander will get you nowhere, Flan. If by "a fair amount of bands" he has ruined you mean "zero," well, I guess you're not NOT slanderous. I hate to introduce reality into the mix, but... if your record company fronts, say, a $750,000 advance and, of that, pays $300,000 to the person who engineers your record, and then recoups only $50,000 from "units sold," you're situation is no different than if the record company comes REALLY CLOSE to breaking even on that release... which it won't.
It also doesn't go into some of his exploitation of bands who get signed to major labels. He wanted $300,000 to record Drive Like Jehu. They didn't go for it. As he says himself "I charge whatever the hell I feel like at the moment, based on the client's ability to pay, how nice the band members are, the size and directly proportional gullibility of the record company, and whether or not they got the rock... anybody on a major label gets fucked wholedong outright..."
I finally bothered to watch this documentary. Gotta love the NPR-style mumbling narration. The entire quote about loving noise is a bit more racist: "don't give two splats of an old negro junkie's vomit for your politico-philosophical treatises, kiddies. I like noise. I like big-ass vicious noise that makes my head spin. I wanna feel it whipping through me like a fucking jolt. We're so dilapidated and crushed by our pathetic existence we need it like a fix." But he's a Democrat, so it's OK.
His band, Shellac, used to be pretty good. I think "At Action Park" is a very good indie rock record. However, in recent years, they have just gone down hill. I think he's just riding the rocket, resting on his laurels, however you want to say it. The 10 minute noise jams and clever Sinatra impressions are just lame. He may as well do a voice over and admit "indie scene-sters will buy this record and like it no matter how poopy it is"... "Can you hear me now?" He does sorta look like the VZW guy
See, the premise of this documentary is that most people don't know his name but they have been listening to him. If that is the case, why would they search for a documentary on Steve Albini? In fact, often times it is the other way around. People will buy totally shitty indie music just because he recorded it. He's transcended the role of being a mere recording engineer. He's a brand. Sure, most Nirvana listeners don't know him, but people buy Shellac records solely because of his cachet.
Yeah, this digital technology sucks, especially when it allows a documentary about a fucktard to be distributed world wide. Anyone who was adverse to digital recording in the 90s probably had some good points. Nowadays, it's just sad and pathetic. It's how he delineate his tight community of überknobs and creates his own brand. Most people don't care who the fuck recorded a band. They care about the band. When the recording engineer takes a front seat to the band, something's gone awry.
He's a recording engineer for fuck's sake. Do you think Kurt Cobain's dentist runs around going "oooh, I am the bad ass rock dentist and corporate dentists are totally fucked, now gimme $30k for that mouth full of fillings cuz you're on a major label". The indie scene has given importance to Albini (a lot of it is his own shameless
self-promotion), but who gives a fuck about recording engineers? Why should anyone care about this bag of farts?
@ISubstanceI By sane, do you mean his desperate need to cling to outdated technology? You do know all of his back catalog is available on CD, right? CDs are bad, unless Steve can make some money off them.
@ISubstanceI Oh, and all his stuff is on iTunes too. So you can put it on your iTape machine and listen to it as you roll it down the boulevard with your 5,000 ft extension cord and large over-the-ear 70s head phones. Maybe you can load some Little River Band on your iTape machine while you're at it?
Wow. really? So what do you think about the bands he records, or are you buying these records just because of the recording engineer? I'm just trying to understand why a recording engineer seems to overshadow the talent. Ego? Boredom? $? The inability to make decent music of his own? Have you bought into his view of what is alternative or punk? Appearantly Scott Weiland is a hard core alterna-indie punk rawker these days. I always thought he was a shitty drug-addled Eddie Vedder clone...
you need to get a dictionary as masochist is very different to misogynist and you swop these two very different words seamlessly. Steve is neither and you need to come to grips with the difference between a song and it's narrator/topic of discussion and the singer. Picasso painted Guernica but interestingly didn't actually kill anyone.
I've already addressed the masochist vs. misogynist thing in many replies, just scroll down and you can see it was a mistake! Plus I never said outright I thought he was either, he was accused of being a misogynist by a woman's lib group not the the narrator.
Naw. Albini's a Democrat, not a misogynist or masochist. A true blue Dem-o-crat!: "I don't give two splats of an old negro junkie's vomit for your politico-philosophical treatises, kiddies. I like noise." You do know Negro is the new politically correct term. Thanks Senator Reid! It's cool, because he's a Democrat too. In fact, it is my understanding that Steve sold EAR, donated the proceeds to Golman Sachs, and joined the air force. He's in Bagram right now, fighting for our freedom. God bless!
I had the pleasure of shaking the man's hand after Shellac played Glasgow last year. He's really very shy..
Also:
Masochist - one who derives pleasure from pain.
Mysoginist - one who demeans or objectifies women.
There's a slight difference, mr narrator. How that got through proof reading, we'll never know. Unless you didn't bother with that, seemingly the likely cause..
Again, about the Masochist/Misogynist mistake, this is the first cut of the movie, the final film fest version has the corrected "misogynist" line... my bad!
I was not aware Steve went on to do two more bands after Big Black. Sweet! I had to laugh at the women marching against 'Rape Man"! It's just a name geeze. Steve is a genius in my opinion, Ataomizer is a total classic. I've replaced that album 10 times. Nice vid, thanks.
Here's a review of the latest Shellac record: ""...the new album sounds more thrown together than previous releases.The ten-minute Genuine Lullabelle, for example, borders on some of the silliest territory Shellac has covered. "The End of Radio" is another anomaly. Its Greyhounds extended opener, and the song features little more than Albini repeatedly screaming "Can you hear me now?" In total, Shellacs latest release often pushes the limits of what any non-fan would deem listenable."
You mean you had to replace your analog copy of Atomizer 10 times? But analog stuff lasts forever, unlike digital. Yeah, with digital, CDs get scratches, and there's no good way to back them up or get like, say, um, a 100% perfect copy of a digital recording. This is because of the nits that live inside of the 16-bit mask and they nit and nat on the bits until the digital copy of Atomizer ends up being Graceland. It's completely fucked up, this digital stuff (I type into a text area...)
@badalice07 So true. Albini is one of these people that just can't admit he's wrong because his whole schtick is analog recording. He never thought the technology would get better? It's also cheaper and much more accessible. Even if you splurge on a Mac, it is so much cheaper and better to record digitally on a computer. What used to cost $300,000 can now be done for $10,000 (including mics, pres, etc). Who the fuck needs a $100,000 german tape deck? Ironic that it's considered "indie" and DIY!
@badalice07 For him to admit he is wrong about digital is a huge thing, because he put all of his eggs in the analog basket. It would be like the Pope accepting married Anglican ministers into his fold. Holy Shit! The Pope is more reasonable than Steve Albini. Yeah, he's like some Chicago ward boss trying to become some extra-musical entity. Just record the fucking bands and don't overcharge and overshadow the bands. It really does a disservice to music when someone gets all mafioso about it.
This is great. A fantastic, informative piece. And your voice is perfect for it. If you had one of those over-the-top, smarmy, "SuperGuy-Who-Wants-You-To-Buy" Announcer voices, it would have been jarring. No fakery involved in the Documentary about the band that had no fakery involved... (except for the drums, of course).
I just wanted to create a doc on Albini so people could learn more about him! I know my voice isn't the best, but I had a passion to get this into the world! But if my voice is too distracting, there are plenty of hilarious and cute cat videos all over youtbe that you may find more educational and enlightening (don't worry there's usually no narration).
It's true,,,he does answer the phone. My friend was in a band which had some underground success about 13 years ago. We actually called him one night from England during a drinking session...he answered the phone and we had a chat...quite surreal at the time actually.
message to the documentarian(s): as others have pointed out, you really should do something about that masochist/misogynist problem. it singlehandedly makes the whole documentary seem 10x more amateurish than it otherwise would.
also, one point of criticism: don't you think maybe you should put the press's/feminists' misogyny accusations into some kind of context? like mention that all of those critiques seem to assume that singing about something is the same as advocating it?
i like a lot of what steve says. but sometimes he comes off as a bit of a philistine, with electronic music, production techniques..and he's firmly against camp in music, which is something I think can be very worthwhile (if it's done creatively).
but i have sympathy for what you're saying; the word i would use would be 'reactionary'. some of what he's said about rap music in particular i have found questionable/cringe-worthy. i sometimes think: does he have to share his opinions on subjects he doesn't know anything about?
he gets credit for espousing his point of view unapologetically, & articulating it intelligently. he doesn't expect everyone to agree with him, & he has my respect.
so... i am starting a band. what do i do to not be fucked? i at least would like a normal salary if not more. any tips for a pretty good guitarist? im just coming out of high school. played for 3 years so far. got terrible grades except for guitar class, A
Okay, guys - yes, there ARE errors: the number of albums released by Big Black ('over a dozen') and Rapeman ('a few' . . . showing singles and EPs at the same time will confuse newcomers and seemed to confuse the maker . . . just say 'records'); he DOES say 'masochist' when means 'misogynist' - but you have to give him something for effort. This would be a useful primer for a tyro, so long as s/he didn't use it as his/her only source.
Why do you focus so much on whether or not Albini is a misogynist?? I doubt anyone gives a shit if he's a misogynist, except for you. This is complete crap.
also i personally think you did a good job giving a short bio of albini's various projects over the past 20 or so years. it was pretty even, you didn't call him a misogynist and you idin't say he wasn't one either. sorry he didn't like it.
Steve is not a misogynist, he's gone on record countless times refuting that lazy assumption. If anything, he plays up to his misconceptions purely to piss off idiots.
Great documentary, well done.
TheWrenaissance 1 month ago
Whats the last song?
CameronCN 3 months ago
I'm recording with him in 3 weeks. Why? Because Rock & Roll.
ragejg 4 months ago
I've always wanted to glomp Steve Albini against his will, even though I'd probably die afterwards.
gangurobitch 4 months ago
What's the name of the song at 1:51?
arzani86 6 months ago
I think the narrator meant ''yet some still say that his reputation as a SADIST is still in place''.
A masochist enjoys receiving pain. In the song ''Prayer To God'', a desire to inflict pain is displayed, by a sadist.
Rankmoistmeat 8 months ago
HEY LOOK I'M A TROLL! I'M TROLLING!!!!
FUCK YOU DUMBASSES!!!
FUCK YOU!
Rankmoistmeat 8 months ago
Albini is a god. My favorite of his records he has recorded is Nina Nastasia's The Blackened Air.
confiscator 8 months ago
big black is ok, can't stand the drums but Steve, talking about the music industry and sell outs, sonic youth should be embarassed, maybe they should? but Steve is not much different, he may be matter of fact in his album credits, he's getting paid large sums of money to record bands like Nirvana, or the Pixies, the Stooges, great he doesn't get royalties, he is still collecting money from major labels...and for what, he says he doesn't have a sound, but his name is cred, so he's sells his id
crypttonite 9 months ago
this guy is so iritant..
mrdumbleboy 9 months ago
@mrdumbleboy I think you meant ''irritating'', but yea, if you say so
Rankmoistmeat 8 months ago
@Rankmoistmeat yes.. sorry 4 a mistake.. :D .. and thx..!!
mrdumbleboy 8 months ago
on dvd?
MichaelHansenFUN 10 months ago
I would love to sit down in some coffee shop out here in Illionis and have a very long conversation with Mr. Albini
StraightPunkEdge93 11 months ago
what song plays at the 1:40 mark in this vid?
zodiakfolk 1 year ago
What horrible production values this doc has, jesus
bewlaybrutha 1 year ago
What did albini have to do with drunken lullibies and the fragile? A mistake? Anyone got an answer for me
sloanmidwestXTC 1 year ago
who gives a fuck if he's a misogynist.. in our days of superficial gold digging whores, its only logical to hate women... . i like him even more now!!
CancerianChris 1 year ago
What's the song at 1:40?
LivesUnderABridge 1 year ago
@LivesUnderABridge Strange Things.
SuperMario16bit 8 months ago
What's the song starting at 1:40?
davidfregoli 1 year ago
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elissamittman67 1 year ago
3:36 Almost sounds like Scentless Apprentice.
CameronDaGangsta 1 year ago
This video was made in 2007 but if it had been broadcast three years later, the beginning with the showing of the album sleeves could have include The Weirdness by the Stooges and Journal For Plagued Lovers by Manic Street Preachers.
A highly fascinating man. Thanks for the video!
lyonslaforet 1 year ago
Genius ! Thanks..
JackDMC 1 year ago
whats the song at the 1:40 mark?
zodiakfolk 1 year ago
whats the name of the song at the 1:40 mark?
zodiakfolk 1 year ago
Holy shit at 7:24. That is fucked.
Gamagachee 1 year ago
that was a shitty documentary, you should feel bad.
Rojacasm 1 year ago
hell yeah, f*** commercial labels and the mainstream bullshit of music. i would be doing the same thing with my recording studio, if i had one. charge bands for my time and effort, not for my equipment. i really want a studio of my own one day too. so i can stop messing around with my computer mic and record some real tracks, and help other rising musicians discover and craft their own sound
stanfordsan 1 year ago
@stanfordsan Don't take this video seriously. Albini spends his time bitching about the mainstream, while producing mainstream bands...and then subsequently cashing those big fat checks. Nirvana, Bush, Veruca Salt, and The Breeders just to name a few.
The real producer to look up to, is Jack Endino. Endino produced bands BEFORE they became huge...not after. Just look at Nirvana. Endino produced their first indie record, Bleach. Albini produced their last studio mainstream record, In Utero.
WarmothGuitarist 2 months ago
Rocumentary or powerpoint, misogynist or masochist (we all know what you meant) - either way, this is ace! Make some more!
Wihonymous 1 year ago
When I was younger & my exposure to music was growing, my uncle saw I had a copy of Songs About Fucking and told me a couple of stories about Touch & Go parties and meeting Albini a handful of times. But one that stood out (and always will) is a story he told of Albini giving the bride & groom a chainsaw as a housewarming gift @ a wedding that my uncle had also been in attendence to (no idea who was getting married or when this would've been, sometime before 95 though lol)
godFlintstone 1 year ago
This is like the best documentary ever. 26 stars.
godFlintstone 1 year ago
Don't believe the hype. Albini is a professional and a gracious host. We (AVITIA) recorded with him a few weeks ago and the man was thorough and very helpful during the whole session.
techronius 1 year ago
I fell asleep and farted.
dappergen 2 years ago
Recording with him this week, I guess I find out then.
techronius 2 years ago 6
@techronius Awesome! Please post how your experience went with him. I am very curious and I hear he is very thorough with his recording set-up.
TheShippingYard 2 years ago 4
@techronius man that is such a pleasure. i live in australia so im shattered ill never get the op
Ravenclawlover 1 year ago
@techronius: how did you contact him?
zdrumer67 1 year ago
@zdrumer67 electrical audio had a website with contact info
techronius 1 year ago
@techronius hey how much did it cost you? im interesting in recording with him too!!
Juansamisterica 1 year ago
@techronius hey bro... I see you recorded with the man... when, how much, and where?
jazzmasterjesus 1 year ago
seriously ppl r all bashing on him?
if those women or someone doesn't like this music you know what they CAN do?
NOT LISTEN TO IT!!
gezz let steve be a artist in his own way.
haterrrss.
Im happy i get to interview him next wednesday for school!
TheBlondewolf2 2 years ago 3
I love Steve Albini, but this isn't a 'rock-doc', this is a powerpoint presentation.
kcaccidental 2 years ago 3
Meanwhile, our hero, Flan, the Noam Chomsky of the corporate world, continues to artfully elude his own brand of hypocrisy... merely by being anonymous!
blanche805 2 years ago
what song is at 4:13
starwolf888 2 years ago
@starwolf888: The Watch Song
JTrainDowntown 2 years ago
What's the song at the end of the vid?
Powerman32 2 years ago
@Powerman32 The end is "Trouser Minnow" by Rapeman!
lazrpo1nt3r 2 years ago
Well, for as much negativity there seems to be in the comments about Steve Albini... all I have to say is that he seems to be doing quite well with Electrical Audio. I don't know him, I can't argue his personality, but if he were "ripping people off" all of the time and was as bad as everyone seems to be saying, I honestly don't think Electrical Audio would still exist. Regardless of his personality and how much he has charged or exploited a band, I guess his work speaks for itself.
JTrainDowntown 2 years ago 3
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP
remitablechair 2 years ago
What's the song at 4:30?
challinorrj 2 years ago
The song at 4:30 is "Where Is My Mind" by the Pixies.
JTrainDowntown 2 years ago
The thing is -- a lot of times that major label money is an advance to the band. They are expected to pay it back with record sales. If they don't move enough units, they are in debt. Albini hordes their wealth and sanctimoniously makes it seem like he's sticking it to the man, when in fact he is sticking it to the band. He's ruined a fair amount of bands that have fell into this trap. This documentary is one-sided and is just a poorly produced rim job.
jonvanflan 2 years ago
Slander will get you nowhere, Flan. If by "a fair amount of bands" he has ruined you mean "zero," well, I guess you're not NOT slanderous. I hate to introduce reality into the mix, but... if your record company fronts, say, a $750,000 advance and, of that, pays $300,000 to the person who engineers your record, and then recoups only $50,000 from "units sold," you're situation is no different than if the record company comes REALLY CLOSE to breaking even on that release... which it won't.
blanche805 2 years ago
It also doesn't go into some of his exploitation of bands who get signed to major labels. He wanted $300,000 to record Drive Like Jehu. They didn't go for it. As he says himself "I charge whatever the hell I feel like at the moment, based on the client's ability to pay, how nice the band members are, the size and directly proportional gullibility of the record company, and whether or not they got the rock... anybody on a major label gets fucked wholedong outright..."
jonvanflan 2 years ago
I finally bothered to watch this documentary. Gotta love the NPR-style mumbling narration. The entire quote about loving noise is a bit more racist: "don't give two splats of an old negro junkie's vomit for your politico-philosophical treatises, kiddies. I like noise. I like big-ass vicious noise that makes my head spin. I wanna feel it whipping through me like a fucking jolt. We're so dilapidated and crushed by our pathetic existence we need it like a fix." But he's a Democrat, so it's OK.
jonvanflan 2 years ago
His band, Shellac, used to be pretty good. I think "At Action Park" is a very good indie rock record. However, in recent years, they have just gone down hill. I think he's just riding the rocket, resting on his laurels, however you want to say it. The 10 minute noise jams and clever Sinatra impressions are just lame. He may as well do a voice over and admit "indie scene-sters will buy this record and like it no matter how poopy it is"... "Can you hear me now?" He does sorta look like the VZW guy
jonvanflan 2 years ago
See, the premise of this documentary is that most people don't know his name but they have been listening to him. If that is the case, why would they search for a documentary on Steve Albini? In fact, often times it is the other way around. People will buy totally shitty indie music just because he recorded it. He's transcended the role of being a mere recording engineer. He's a brand. Sure, most Nirvana listeners don't know him, but people buy Shellac records solely because of his cachet.
jonvanflan 2 years ago
Yeah, this digital technology sucks, especially when it allows a documentary about a fucktard to be distributed world wide. Anyone who was adverse to digital recording in the 90s probably had some good points. Nowadays, it's just sad and pathetic. It's how he delineate his tight community of überknobs and creates his own brand. Most people don't care who the fuck recorded a band. They care about the band. When the recording engineer takes a front seat to the band, something's gone awry.
jonvanflan 2 years ago
He's a recording engineer for fuck's sake. Do you think Kurt Cobain's dentist runs around going "oooh, I am the bad ass rock dentist and corporate dentists are totally fucked, now gimme $30k for that mouth full of fillings cuz you're on a major label". The indie scene has given importance to Albini (a lot of it is his own shameless
self-promotion), but who gives a fuck about recording engineers? Why should anyone care about this bag of farts?
jonvanflan 2 years ago
@jonvanflan
spoken like a true non-musician
YouGotWoodRolled 7 months ago
What's the name of the song at the 0:03 second mark?
Punk93Metal 2 years ago
It's by the Pixies, I can tell that.
theoriginal72 2 years ago
Oh it's by the Pixies. All this time I thought it was from one of Albini's bands.
Punk93Metal 2 years ago
"Mama Gina" from Shellac's 1000 Hurts
JohnSmithAprilMay 2 years ago
has the industry changed a lot since then?
baiNEKO 2 years ago
Steve Albini, one of the few sane producers left in the industry. True genius.
ISubstanceI 2 years ago 13
@ISubstanceI By sane, do you mean his desperate need to cling to outdated technology? You do know all of his back catalog is available on CD, right? CDs are bad, unless Steve can make some money off them.
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@ISubstanceI Oh, and all his stuff is on iTunes too. So you can put it on your iTape machine and listen to it as you roll it down the boulevard with your 5,000 ft extension cord and large over-the-ear 70s head phones. Maybe you can load some Little River Band on your iTape machine while you're at it?
jonvanflan 2 years ago
@ISubstanceI I have a strange feeling he doesn't like being called that.
saturnaisland1 11 months ago
niiice video
sunchild90 2 years ago
awesome video.
all the fuckers who think albini is a masochist or mysognist obviously dont understand him.
once again, well done on the vid
Ravenclawlover 2 years ago 3
a god amonst men
Check out some of my Rapeman videos
jamjargod 2 years ago
at 3:15 there is (i guess it's a single) a picture of two black women. never seen that one, tell me what it is
wordupassholes 2 years ago
What's the song with the bassline then the guy says "hey"?
gigglegigggle 2 years ago
Strange Things by Big Black
crackrocksteadyman 2 years ago
wat album is that 1 on? i dont think i have it
21Kyzix12 2 years ago
Atomizer. Their best album next to Songs About Fucking. They are also Big Black's only studio albums. :-)
crackrocksteadyman 2 years ago
this guy is my god
derpherp 2 years ago 2
Wow. really? So what do you think about the bands he records, or are you buying these records just because of the recording engineer? I'm just trying to understand why a recording engineer seems to overshadow the talent. Ego? Boredom? $? The inability to make decent music of his own? Have you bought into his view of what is alternative or punk? Appearantly Scott Weiland is a hard core alterna-indie punk rawker these days. I always thought he was a shitty drug-addled Eddie Vedder clone...
jonvanflan 2 years ago
I would agree with 3ed3ed3..
Great video, I found it extremely interesting to find out more about Steve.
Icantunderstandyou 2 years ago
you need to get a dictionary as masochist is very different to misogynist and you swop these two very different words seamlessly. Steve is neither and you need to come to grips with the difference between a song and it's narrator/topic of discussion and the singer. Picasso painted Guernica but interestingly didn't actually kill anyone.
micromegas 2 years ago 4
I've already addressed the masochist vs. misogynist thing in many replies, just scroll down and you can see it was a mistake! Plus I never said outright I thought he was either, he was accused of being a misogynist by a woman's lib group not the the narrator.
TheShippingYard 2 years ago 3
Naw. Albini's a Democrat, not a misogynist or masochist. A true blue Dem-o-crat!: "I don't give two splats of an old negro junkie's vomit for your politico-philosophical treatises, kiddies. I like noise." You do know Negro is the new politically correct term. Thanks Senator Reid! It's cool, because he's a Democrat too. In fact, it is my understanding that Steve sold EAR, donated the proceeds to Golman Sachs, and joined the air force. He's in Bagram right now, fighting for our freedom. God bless!
jonvanflan 2 years ago
source?
DesolationRow0 2 years ago
He needs to chill.
chrisparrent 2 years ago
I had the pleasure of shaking the man's hand after Shellac played Glasgow last year. He's really very shy..
Also:
Masochist - one who derives pleasure from pain.
Mysoginist - one who demeans or objectifies women.
There's a slight difference, mr narrator. How that got through proof reading, we'll never know. Unless you didn't bother with that, seemingly the likely cause..
quiverbuzz 2 years ago 4
Again, about the Masochist/Misogynist mistake, this is the first cut of the movie, the final film fest version has the corrected "misogynist" line... my bad!
TheShippingYard 2 years ago
@TheShippingYard
I think saying Misogynist is fine. You talk about his issues with women, don't let people tell you you're wrong when you're not.
Masochism is pleasure in pain being inflicted on you.
SADISM is pleasure in pain being inflicted on others. So he's a sadist and a misogynist. haha
punkmusical 1 year ago
@quiverbuzz lol he never seems shy in his interviews though!
Rankmoistmeat 8 months ago
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Punk93Metal 2 years ago
8:17 masochist =/= misogynist lol
divegator 2 years ago
THIS MAN IS MY NEW HERO
3ed3ed3 2 years ago 16
I was not aware Steve went on to do two more bands after Big Black. Sweet! I had to laugh at the women marching against 'Rape Man"! It's just a name geeze. Steve is a genius in my opinion, Ataomizer is a total classic. I've replaced that album 10 times. Nice vid, thanks.
badalice07 2 years ago
Here's a review of the latest Shellac record: ""...the new album sounds more thrown together than previous releases.The ten-minute Genuine Lullabelle, for example, borders on some of the silliest territory Shellac has covered. "The End of Radio" is another anomaly. Its Greyhounds extended opener, and the song features little more than Albini repeatedly screaming "Can you hear me now?" In total, Shellacs latest release often pushes the limits of what any non-fan would deem listenable."
jonvanflan 2 years ago
You mean you had to replace your analog copy of Atomizer 10 times? But analog stuff lasts forever, unlike digital. Yeah, with digital, CDs get scratches, and there's no good way to back them up or get like, say, um, a 100% perfect copy of a digital recording. This is because of the nits that live inside of the 16-bit mask and they nit and nat on the bits until the digital copy of Atomizer ends up being Graceland. It's completely fucked up, this digital stuff (I type into a text area...)
jonvanflan 2 years ago
retard. People take things that don't belong to them. computers in the 80s and 90s were not what they are today. 20 year old kid sniffing paint.
badalice07 2 years ago
@badalice07 So true. Albini is one of these people that just can't admit he's wrong because his whole schtick is analog recording. He never thought the technology would get better? It's also cheaper and much more accessible. Even if you splurge on a Mac, it is so much cheaper and better to record digitally on a computer. What used to cost $300,000 can now be done for $10,000 (including mics, pres, etc). Who the fuck needs a $100,000 german tape deck? Ironic that it's considered "indie" and DIY!
jonvanflan 2 years ago
@badalice07 For him to admit he is wrong about digital is a huge thing, because he put all of his eggs in the analog basket. It would be like the Pope accepting married Anglican ministers into his fold. Holy Shit! The Pope is more reasonable than Steve Albini. Yeah, he's like some Chicago ward boss trying to become some extra-musical entity. Just record the fucking bands and don't overcharge and overshadow the bands. It really does a disservice to music when someone gets all mafioso about it.
jonvanflan 2 years ago
He might consider you? As long as you pay the bill Steve will engineer your album. There is no audition for being a customer at electrical audio.
nciviero 2 years ago
I went to school with his nephew Jethro.
ImethIaddictI 2 years ago
very good! thanks for posting!
norvy666 2 years ago
Haha, I always think that young Steve Albini looks like young Conor Oberst.
pageseventyfive 2 years ago
Jordan MN. haha
YOUsnozeYOULOZE 2 years ago
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wordupassholes 2 years ago
What band sings Strange Things, is it Big Black or is it a sifferent band?
MrBungleFan 2 years ago
Big Black
wordupassholes 2 years ago
is this meant to be a joke? it seemed pretty fact based for the most part but...
dave riley was not the original bassist in big black
"his reputation as a masochist"?
weird ending implying steve albini has a split personality?? just bizarre
horsedoctorman 2 years ago 2
From the context, it seemed like the narrator meant to say "his reputation as a misogynist", as he had done before.
badhedgehog75 2 years ago
ahahhaaha <3
lucylocketed 2 years ago
Very well done thanks for posting this.
dropd26 2 years ago
This is great. A fantastic, informative piece. And your voice is perfect for it. If you had one of those over-the-top, smarmy, "SuperGuy-Who-Wants-You-To-Buy" Announcer voices, it would have been jarring. No fakery involved in the Documentary about the band that had no fakery involved... (except for the drums, of course).
SchmedleyDoRight 2 years ago
No worries! Your obviously a genuine fan, smart and seem like a sound person - ignore the jocular sneers!
SenaraBlenethwyn 2 years ago
I see that other have asked, but I dont see any asnwer.
Whats the first song called?
PerArnePerArne 2 years ago
The first song at about 9 seconds is from Nirvana's In Utero album, it's called Tourette's. Or did you mean the song after that?
TheShippingYard 2 years ago
I found this really educational and thought your voice was fine. I'd love to talk to Albini, how do you get his contact details?
dreamboatspetticoats 2 years ago
next time have someone else speak for you i couldnt listen for more than 10 seconds because of your voice
RunFasterPussycat 2 years ago
I just wanted to create a doc on Albini so people could learn more about him! I know my voice isn't the best, but I had a passion to get this into the world! But if my voice is too distracting, there are plenty of hilarious and cute cat videos all over youtbe that you may find more educational and enlightening (don't worry there's usually no narration).
xoxo,
The lame ass narrator
TheShippingYard 2 years ago
His voice is ok, give him a break
wordupassholes 2 years ago
you're voice was fine.
looshkin66 2 years ago 3
big black split up by choice. They felt they had reached what they had wanted to do sonically.
The lame ass narrator left that out.
looshkin66 2 years ago
Thanks for the lesson, you have a way with words.
xoxo,
The lame ass narrator.
TheShippingYard 2 years ago
thank you very much!
looshkin66 2 years ago
I loved everything else about the doc. though.....
honest, upbeat, not too flattering.
looshkin66 2 years ago
The narrator is awful.
theflyawayhair 2 years ago
Not as awful as Fat Kite the Movie.
TheShippingYard 2 years ago
what's the song at 1:40? Is it from the first album they are talking about at that time?
oracrest 2 years ago
I found it, it's called "Strange Things" from the Big Black Atomizer album, but only on the record, not the CD.
oracrest 2 years ago
Steve Albini should be a judge on American Idol.
progcoor 2 years ago 5
And only judge in fake Italian.
Spiritu39 2 years ago
hahahahahah totally !!!!
looshkin66 2 years ago
Song at 4:20 is The Watch Song off of the Shellac 10,000 Hurts album.
tuco666 2 years ago
Steve & Andrew WK record together FTW
luckytwentyseven 2 years ago
It's true,,,he does answer the phone. My friend was in a band which had some underground success about 13 years ago. We actually called him one night from England during a drinking session...he answered the phone and we had a chat...quite surreal at the time actually.
SwitchRich 2 years ago
anyone know the song at 4:20?
Fran100 2 years ago
So THAT'S why In Utero is so much better than Nevermind.
wordupassholes 3 years ago 9
the man
oheneys 3 years ago
FUCKING EPIC!!!!!!!! <3
entertheredfox 3 years ago
informative. thanks
lukeashmoore 3 years ago
I wish all documentaries were like this - and concerned equally interesting subject matters!
SenaraBlenethwyn 3 years ago 7
Nice to see steve finally getting credit!
punk91 3 years ago 4
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Extraordinarily lame.
I'm guessing school project.
cd101284 3 years ago
whats the song at 6:40? sounds awwsomm
MrYukawa 3 years ago
I think it's "House Full of Garbage," by his band Shellac. Killer tune.
DisfiguredCowboy 3 years ago
Steve Albini, you are my hero sir! please record my band!!
DDigamy 3 years ago
message to the documentarian(s): as others have pointed out, you really should do something about that masochist/misogynist problem. it singlehandedly makes the whole documentary seem 10x more amateurish than it otherwise would.
also, one point of criticism: don't you think maybe you should put the press's/feminists' misogyny accusations into some kind of context? like mention that all of those critiques seem to assume that singing about something is the same as advocating it?
idealtypical 3 years ago
i like a lot of what steve says. but sometimes he comes off as a bit of a philistine, with electronic music, production techniques..and he's firmly against camp in music, which is something I think can be very worthwhile (if it's done creatively).
TeenageWildlife 3 years ago
i too think albini's right about a lot of stuff.
but i have sympathy for what you're saying; the word i would use would be 'reactionary'. some of what he's said about rap music in particular i have found questionable/cringe-worthy. i sometimes think: does he have to share his opinions on subjects he doesn't know anything about?
he gets credit for espousing his point of view unapologetically, & articulating it intelligently. he doesn't expect everyone to agree with him, & he has my respect.
idealtypical 3 years ago
this is well done and kind of cool..but a tad silly..i wish i could interview him...dream of mine for sure
aicfan85 3 years ago
Steve Albini..he is a friend of mine
Garrison2 3 years ago
the one and only...
thx for upload
neschek358 3 years ago
does anyone know the name of the song at 1:40?
ihatejuggalos123 3 years ago
"Strange Things" from Big Black
Brettgitarre 3 years ago
But it isn't the song on the Atomizer-Album, it's from a bootleg called "Way Hap Ultimate Rarities"
Brettgitarre 3 years ago
It is on the Atomizer lp but not the Rich man's..CD. Look for the vinyl
gypsumfantastic23 3 years ago
HEY I HATE JUGGALOS TOO!!!
keagankeagankeagan 3 years ago 3
masochist or mysogynist? make your fucking mind up. His reputation wasn't tarnished after 'In Utero'???!!
Why not make a film about something you actually understand?
precinct 3 years ago
so... i am starting a band. what do i do to not be fucked? i at least would like a normal salary if not more. any tips for a pretty good guitarist? im just coming out of high school. played for 3 years so far. got terrible grades except for guitar class, A
wildboy789789 3 years ago
This video is still AWESOME!
Long live Steve Albini!
emilyrl 3 years ago
Okay, guys - yes, there ARE errors: the number of albums released by Big Black ('over a dozen') and Rapeman ('a few' . . . showing singles and EPs at the same time will confuse newcomers and seemed to confuse the maker . . . just say 'records'); he DOES say 'masochist' when means 'misogynist' - but you have to give him something for effort. This would be a useful primer for a tyro, so long as s/he didn't use it as his/her only source.
blank5317 3 years ago
\m/ Albini \m/
samyutta 3 years ago
Thank you for doing this it is a great insight to a legend
mrgrieves66 3 years ago
That's right steve is the man!
TrentsRuiner 3 years ago
Why do you focus so much on whether or not Albini is a misogynist?? I doubt anyone gives a shit if he's a misogynist, except for you. This is complete crap.
kubrickfan72 3 years ago
Thanks for attacking me personally.
TheShippingYard 3 years ago
whats that song around 4:19-4:21?
also i personally think you did a good job giving a short bio of albini's various projects over the past 20 or so years. it was pretty even, you didn't call him a misogynist and you idin't say he wasn't one either. sorry he didn't like it.
jack00008 3 years ago
It's watch song from 1000 Hurts.
danielmccabemustdie 3 years ago
Steve is not a misogynist, he's gone on record countless times refuting that lazy assumption. If anything, he plays up to his misconceptions purely to piss off idiots.
quiverbuzz 3 years ago