TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: McCain's "Respectful" Campaign

[AshillaBeige]

You tell 'em, Dean.

BYAAAH!!!

[RGENURSE]

4,000 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq just to protect Israel state !!!

...Mccain has agenda to invade Iran and Sudan to protect the shit Israel...

..WE NEED PRESIDENT LOYAL TO USA NOT TO ISRAEL ...

[jenniferann2]

that's right the democrats are going to eat him alive, they're just sharpening their teeth right now.

[FrontPageStatuz]

listen to how Wolf blitzer says "Hama" lol...he's like hacking a lugee

[HaoSci]

I wonder if MacCain can still be alive in the next 100 years. LOL.

[FrontPageStatuz]

he'll be dead in the next 4 years

[HaoSci]

It is still strange why Hamas want Obama to be the next president, though...

[UndercoverCracker]

Obama will definitely be a very bad thing in office. I would be scared if him or Hilary win...

[slowgrindcity]

isnt it funny listening to republicans talking about taking mccain "out of context" when they have been taking obama's comment on bitter out of context, and rev wright out of context. this is a joke. its ok to take things "out of context" so long as its not republicans. lol. and the difference in all those other cournties is the religion. you can't stay in a islamic country UNWANTED for a houndred years. most of our trouble came from being in saudia arabia unwanted. wake up.

[yanikv]

Were all fucked for the next 12 years at least.

[redviper101]

Al Qaeda wants McCain to be president so they will have a reason to continue their cause.

[5uper5tring]

redviper

seriously, the Youtube poster of AQ attacks on US soldiers subs to Obamas channel.

check JubalAl

[5uper5tring]

look at all the negative crap posted on behalf of Obama toward hillary and mccain. Veracifier is quite quilty of making negative vids against hillary and mccain. obama has the most negative ADS ONLINE

[plebiscite]

Which ad?

[5uper5tring]

this one for instance.

[jeezychreezy1]

You got to be kidding. I'm going to post something in your honor. And you won't know about it. :p

[5uper5tring]

that is just weird.

[MojoJuana]

dick and bush, the great backward-alchemists who turned america and parts of the world into shit!!! doubletalk mcbush will sell ya the shit saying it is gold!!!

[jtilak]

we don't want troops in germany or japan either you retard

[mikemidcity]

So John McCain is the Blackwater candidate.

He is the up front fascist candidate and Hillary is the fall back fascist warmongering candidate.

[midwestcharm]

McCain should be in jail for treason..

[TPAUSA]

The DNC is just warming up. Wait till the Real Campaign begins. Mr Magoo will be swamped.

The American People are waking up specially because it's hurting where they care the most: Their Pocket.

[Weaseldog2001]

How will he be swamped? Who will swamp him?

The media will softpeddle him. They'll ask questions like, "What kind of ice cream do you like?"

The Dem candidate will be asked questions like, "If you were to bugger a dog, what breed would it be?"

Then the race will be reported as too close to call.

The voting system will break down.

Diebold machines will vote for McCain while paper systems will vote for the Dem.

The Supreme Court will step in and declare McCain to be our next Pres.

[Weaseldog2001]

Osama Bin Laden said he wanted America to get bogged down in a war in the Middle East, to demonstrate to the world that America only cares about driving oil prices up.

Bush attacked Iraq to drive up oil prices to enrich his family and friends.

McCain will do take the war into Iran and Syria to drive up defense spending.

The draft will come back next year. Hundreds of thousands of young American men and women will be rounded up and shipped to the Middle East to fight for oil.

Next up $10/gal.

[ltlillil]

You can bet terrorists will be voting for McCain to keep the United States bogged down in a no-win war in Iraq, impoverishing this country with a steady drain of blood and treasure on a military which is already worn-out by a 5 year war, which shows no indication of even coming close to an American victory. In fact, McCain cannot even tell the American people what victory means in Iraq, other than it will take many years to achieve.

[Gilliatt83]

interesting

[UndercoverCracker]

passionate*

[hunterswine]

The neo-cons, neo-dems and elitists can not stand the fact that the American people are starting to wake up. We now have access to all the facts and do not have to listen to the mind bending lies of the media and campaign spots from any candidate. Welcome to the new America, where we are finally getting a real education. Education is power. Information is power and they can't keep it from us any more.

[gallomex13]

You know these he did not mention Vietnam. The reason the USA did not win in Vietnam was because they were fighting non-military guerrillas same shit is going on in Iraq they are not fighting a controlled army they are fighting thousands of different guerrillas and terrorist group that have no rules, out of all the candidates McBush should know better 'cause he fought in Vietnam but Power and Money will change anyone.

[UndercoverCracker]

He was a PoW for fuck sake...He is passion about keeping America safe, I wonder why.

[Weaseldog2001]

He told us that torture is evil, then voted to keep America torturing POWs.

What do you call a man that was a tortured POW, says that torturing POWs is evil, then votes to keep America torturing POWs, every chance he gets?

He doesn't seem to be about keeping America safe, he seems to be about courting handouts from the defense industry.

He keeps voting for more PAC money, paid for by American Iraqi lives. I wonder why he likes money that much?

[gallomex13]

Keeping America safe??? by economically fucking them in the ass and militarily destroy a country that had nothing to do with the biggest terrorist attack upon the safe USA 9/11.

common sense was not part of you family genes huh?

[gnu11111]

If there are 996000+4000 victims, you better say: a million people died so far in this war on terror. That doesn't sound like you suck at mathematics.

[PharaohNineD]

Yes Hamas wants a dottering old man to be are next president.

John McCain is spoiler candidate for John McCain.

[ikekll]

If McCain's choice is Romney...

(as if McCain isn't bad enough)

oh my, I can't even go there.

Hitler lives, that's for certain.

[ikekll]

How many degrees of seperation?

Romney--->Ford--->Nazi funding FORD--->Predator Nazi-loving Prescott Bush?

GOOD GRIEF!

"Mitt Romney called for the United States to commit far greater resources to national defense, including higher military spending...Romney, who showed a PowerPoint presentation as he talked, was introduced by former president George H. W. Bush, with whom he was to attend a private dinner last night"

Trust me, Germany is alive and well-woven into the fabric of the GREAT USA.

[UndercoverCracker]

You are so idiotic how can you compare a politician to Hitler...OMG. Hitler had millions of people murdered, you are so stupid man.

[Weaseldog2001]

Funny, Hitler wasn't mentioned. But Prescott Bush was. And you made the connection yourself. Prescott Bush helped procure financing for Hitler. If he hadn't made so much money, he might have ended up on trial at Nuremburg.

I don't know what the Ford connection here is.

[Weaseldog2001]

I've met a few McCain supporters recently. They don't know anything about him. they just know that they hate Democrats. they believe that McCain is against war and torture, when in fact is voting record shows that he approves of both.

McCain made a great argument that waterboarding is torture and that it is evil. Then he voted for it.

As he is pro-torture and pro-evil, why believe these remarks are out of context?

[FeelFreeToArgue]

Watch the frame - notice how it's considered completely acceptable that we have troops based in Germany, in Italy, in Japan. I suggest everyone read some Chalmers Johnson to understand this subject, either "Nemesis" or "Sorrows of Empire." Foreign US bases, 700+ we admit to and many more that are blacked out, are our version of Empire. It is no different from the Soviet Union stationing their troops in their puppet regimes during the cold war.

[FeelFreeToArgue]

This is a large part of the problem, that we don't see these things as imperialism. But when you look at the SOFA agreements we make with countries, you see how we bend them to our will, how we make them give up their sovereignty. Investigate further, and you see how these bases serve as lightning rods for anti-Americanism. Young Americans do what any young men do when there's no accountability, so there are bar fights and rapes. Bases are huge sources of noise and environmental pollution.

[FeelFreeToArgue]

I'm not sure any candidate will do anything about this. I'm casting my lot with Obama simply because he seems, of the remaining 3 viable candidates, to be the most open to the idea of us as an imperial power that needs to be reigned in. A lot of people are afraid of defeat, but I'm far more afraid of claiming false victory. Chalmers Johnson argues from history that you cannot maintain an empire abroad while maintaining democracy at home. I think we can look around and see that this is true.

[Visfen]

Great posts, just to fill in with examples.

In Japan, Korea and Germany there are always rapports coming in of violence committed by these soldiers. I've heard from many friends living in these countries that the American presence is nothing but a disturbance.

Dean is absolutely right, presence in Iraq will mean war. Cause if you look at the situation even in the western countries there is no room to make such a naive argument that it wouldn't be worse in Iraq.

[ikekll]

FeelFreeToArgue, agree

"One year after U.S. tanks rolled through Iraq and more than two years after the United States bombed the Taliban out of power in Afghanistan, the administration has instituted what some experts describe as the most militarized foreign policy machine in modern history.(note here the same Taliban we bombed, was the same Taliban that Gov George Bush struck "the deal" with).

Oh well and fuck it....ya know!

[ikekll]

"The policy has involved not just resorting to military action, or the threat of action, but constructing an arc of new facilities in such places as Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Qatar and Djibouti that the Pentagon calls 'lily pads.' They are seen not merely as a means of defending the host countries -- the traditional Cold War role of such installations -- but as jumping-off points for future 'preventive wars' and military missions."

(5 yrs has lapsed since that was written-lilypads everywhere)

[dogstar7]

McCain making the analogy to Japan, Germany and South Korea is specious: Japan and Germany were defeated and demilitarized, Korea was put under UN mandated armistice.

Hostilities in Iraq continue today and will continue into the foreseeable future.

War is like Viagra to McCain.

[ubuibiok]

So...What? humas is humas....1 person hiding in the bushes waiting to kill any jew that walks by....who care what humas thinks.

[Weaseldog2001]

Humas or Hamas? Is Humas how you spell it in Tel Aviv?

One person kicked the Israelites out of Lebanon?

The entire Israeli army got their butts whooped by one guy hiding in the bushes?

If Israelis don't want Hamas in Lebanon shooting at them, perhaps they should stay in Israel?

[derpified]

it's arabic, they don't spell it using the english alphabet

[Weaseldog2001]

I thought as much. Arabic script though doesn't look like the letters, 'Humas'.

So I was curious where he learned to write it in a non-English style.

ubuibiok's profile makes him out to be an American. That just doesn't fit the way he writes. The tone of his comment, leads me to suspect he is an Israeli pretending to be an American.

[foley15136]

I've noticed even more of that now. There an awful lot of non-Americans on here pretending to be American.

[hypnofan35]

The least Nazi-like minds support Barack Obama. The puppet masters want Hillery or McCain.

[doub1etap]

The general election is going to make the democratic primary look like a love-fest.