Suzuki SV650S v Kawasaki ER-6n v Hyosung GT650

[nunnyd69]

Hey alexsuchapimp. They're not shitty, really. Forget all the pre-conceptions that you have that only the Japanese make good bikes; it's not your fault, you just don't know any better. The Suzuki SV650 has had a Hyosung built engine in it for the last 10 years or so. Hyosung merely said "why the hell are we making engines for Suzuki so they can make all the money and take all the credit". The only thing that lets them down in my opinion is service and parts due to the lack of UK dealerships.

[Jeffo4904]

@nunnyd69 No the don't Hyosung have never built the 650 lump for Suzuki.

Hyo's problems still are quality control, there's not a lot of point in maintenance when your gearbox is made from Chese.

[alexsuchapimp]

hyosung is just a shitty made version of the suzuki

[ellisd82]

Why was the faired models of the Hyosung and Kawasaki not used? Or the unfaired SV used. Much better comparison.

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan RC31 = Honda Hawk GT Right? They stop making it in 1991... How much experience do you have riding? My riding is limited to 87 CR80, 02 CR250, 01 Yamaha R1, 05 SV650, and a 07 GSXR750... I like the power of my GSXR750... But my SV650 rides much better... I do have some $3,000.00 US on suspension work... :D On the local race track I give the 600cc and 750cc super sports a good run for their money.. :D

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan Yeah but they only have 2 cams per head, one intake and one exhaust... Therefore DOHC... I think the SV650 is the best of the bunch because it is more reliable and also it is better if you want to move up to high performance sport riding, track days and eventually racing... You can easily get parts everywhere... You can get suspension and performance upgrades from the GSXR line up... If I was going to buy a new bike, I would save my money, and go with a BMW S1000RR or a Aprilia RSV4 R

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan Dual Over Head Cams (DOHC) means 2 cams per head... 2 heads = 4 Camshafts... Quad Cams would mean 4 cams per head... 2 heads = 8 Camshafts... I may be wrong but there is no such thing... Bigger Rotors does not necessarily mean better brakes... Suzuki are made by Nissin.... What brand are the Hyosung brakes, Also do they come with stainless braided brake lines from the factory? That would be nice...

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan LOL So since the Hyosung makes more power, lets see... Hyosung 458 lbs / 80 hp = 5.725 lbs/hp - SV650 364 lbs / 70hp = 5.2 lbs/hp... I guess that means the SV will pull away for the Hyosung... I have a hard time believing that a bike build and crated in Japan was put together in Spain. Also The SV650 has been EFI since 2003... And they had DOHC since 1999... Where did you see a quad cam? 4 cams on the front cylinder and another 4 cams on the rear cylinder. :D I don't think so...

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan Do you think that because they are USD forks they are better?

As far as power I would like to see a sV650 and a Hyosung GT650 on the same dynomometer... Also the GT650 is a pig at 421 lbs dry... While the SV650 is at 364 lbs dry...

Also on the race grit, you see more Suzuki SV650 than Kawasaki 650 or Hyosung 650 that is a fact... Also check on Ebay for parts: SV650 - 15,189 parts... Kawasaki 650 - 3, 564 parts... Hyosung 650 - 1,697 parts... I take it you do not own an SV650... :D

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan Let me start that Suzuki was founded in 1909... Hyosung was founded in what, 2005? Even on the video it states that the Hyosung was was based on the old SV650 engine meaning 1999 to 02... Upgraded in 03, 05, 07 and 09.

The SV650 is a budget bike because it does not have top of the line suspension like the one seen on the GSXR line up... However it comes with low end Showa or KYB suspension... What brand are the suspension components are the Hyosung?

[SVXR650]

@Flamorgan Hyosung makes the SV650 engines... That is funny!!!

[ijsHD]

Is the Kawasaki ER-6n a good bike for beginners at <25kw? I'm 1m70 and i weight about 55-60 kilos.

[JeezyRyder]

@ijsHD i would go for the sv as its got plenty of torque and even when its restricted it is not affected as much as the other bikes as it has a lot of power low down. i also have a sv650s which is restricted

[myshoesgofast]

I lean towards the suzuki. Although you wouldn't get me to buy a piece of junk hyosung! The hyosung is way to much for what you get.

[W1ck3d247]

The kawasaki is hideous looking with that freakish front headlight from year 2055 and that ugly bannanna seat. The exhaust also looks and sounds like crap. To each his own.

[tuber12321]

@scubabuddha: he sounds French, not Italian, and he says "Even if the SV had a screen, the position..."

[yoochan2007]

@tuber12321 : I vote for french too. My english sounds alike, and I am one :)

[bassistmatt]

The Hyosung is stretching it with the power, the SV could easily make that power and be reliable! The Hyosung Kim-Wom-Bong has upside downers but how good are they?....... In all fairness he Koreans have pulled off a decent big bike but I'll worry when China and India have a go at a sportsbike, I'd rather never touch another bike than ride a Mhurajmhukhtarmasalabhaji 900 Jihad! Hmm i'll stick with the proven time over jap quality SV!

[DaJokern]

@bassistmatt

Just rounded 40 000 km on my GT650R Hyosung bing bam bung -

How good are they?? - answer goodenough .

[SVXR650]

@DaJokern Good enough sound that it's BAD but you are willing to live with it... 

[DaJokern]

@SVXR650

BLA BLA have u ever ride one - i have--- also SV,s

Get the facts straigt - right.

Hoysung never build the sv engine

The GT650 Hyosung engine Ihave nothing to do with the SV engine

Hyosung vs SV on the same dynometer . advantage huosyng - about 5 HP on backwheel every time seen it by myself lots of times.

Good enough means good as SV - so it must be BAD too.

ON the race grit Hyosung easely beat SV - facts like it or not - dont care

Hyosung Founded in South Korea in 1978

[SVXR650]

@DaJokern So Suzuki has some 70 years more bike manufacturing experience than Hyosung... Hyosung purchsed the engine patterns of the 1st generation SV engine because they could not design a reliable engine them selves... Look on the one hand you have Japan made, on the other you have Korean made... If you were to purchase a super car, Would you buy a Indonesian super car, over an Italian super car? Of course Not!!! :D

[DaJokern]

@SVXR650

They have build small Suzuk imodells several years for the korean market.

Neither a SV or a Hyosung is superbikes - take it for what it is - its both cases a good entry to be a biker.

Hyosung with 2 years warrenty -( Suzuki with 1 year) Credits the GT 650’s engine use of roller bearings vs the SV’s plain bearings as “the reason for the extra horsepower.

Its not a copy.

And its NOT bad becauseYou have choosen to buy and ride SV - its nonsens

[daWKin548]

id rather eat my own shit than have the hyosung. Its not the same obviously, but this demostrates my point, my friend has a hyosung 125, i have a yamaha r125, my bike bitch slaps his at speed, stopping, cornering, everything, korens eat dogs and dont make bikes, period.

[bench175]

@daWKin548 You sound retarded.

[daWKin548]

@bench175 you are retarded for making an ill concieved comment like this one.

[bench175]

@daWKin548 "korens eat dogs and dont make bikes, period." Smart people don't say retarded shit like that.

[bbrown189]

@bench175 Funny thing is that Hyosung makes the Suzuki engine and ships it to Japan.

[danzofear]

@devslad I don't know either of the characters you're referencing to, but given the jist of the comment, I still laughed.

[gaivoron]

which one is better for taller guys like 6.3"

[ROBOTNINJA500]

@gaivoron a youtube wilks89 had an sv and he is 6'2" and he said the height was fine for him im 6'3" and just sitting on it it's real easy to get my legs on the pegs and comfy to sit on although i didn't ride it.

[CaptainTurkeyGiblets]

Still have my sv after 10 years of owning it .still love it, despite thinking about buying a different bike now.I will probably keep the sv aswell and use it as a 2nd bike.

Most of the parallel twins sound like crap to me with the exception of the triumphs which sound bleeding lovely.Maybe i`ll go for a big triumph?.decisions, decisions.

[raghu100star]

Hyosung is really a good bike compared to suzuki and kawasaki, its got 80 horse power, really much power compared to these two bikes.

[SVXR650]

@raghu100star As far as power I would like to see a sV650 and a Hyosung GT650 on the same dynomometer... Also the GT650 is a pig at 421 lbs dry... While the SV650 is at 364 lbs dry...

[hofmarskal]

@scubabuddha

I think he was frensh, and I didn't understand anything he said either:-)

[MrKurt86]

i sold my 1994 ZXR750 for a 2008 hyosung gt 650. i know there is a couple of years between them but the kawasaki almost remains the same. my hyosung sounds better has a flatter torque curve and the breaks have alot more stopping power. also if you use it for street use like me the gt 650 has more upright seating position more kind to you on a trip.

from my experience the only bad stuff you hear about the hyosung is from people that havent taken one for a ride or owend one.

[1975supermike]

@MrKurt86 Hi mate I know your comment is quite old on here but I'm after a bit of advice did you really like the gf650r how does it handle e.t.c I just got an insurance quote on one there AI cheap :)

[ellomirza]

Thank God for a review with no "facts" and NO NUMBERS! while moron Americans compare peak horsepower to determine which is best the genius Europeans give you a real world assessment based on the sum of all the parts. Now if they were only objective when it comes to triumphs :-)

[cashman156]

@aceStAugstin Fair point of view... You must have looked at a lot of the comments on here to find mine! (6 months ago lol) Happy riding!

[bronxrip25]

the kawa wins

[jah2mail]

I can sort of understand the suzuki against the kawasaki but the hyosung? Your next comparison should be a 1985 toyota and a 2010 Ferrari because they both come in red.

[nightrider250R]

I like the Hyosung and Suzuki better than the Kawi. : /

[nunnyd69]

Hyosung's Korean not chinese & the build quality is far better. Those of us old enough to remember the first jap Honda's coming to britain in the 60's called them "jap crap" but they've all but killed the british bike industry over the last 5 decades beccause they made better, cheaper more reliable bikes than we did. I bet that in 10 years time Korean bikes & cars will be viewed as equals to the Japanese and not with such derision. Who's the only car maker to offer a 7 year warranty? Kia-orean!

[MrSdmmark]

@nunnyd69

Kai here offers a 5 year warranty,

How ever mitsubishi offer a 5 year new car warranty and a 10 year power train warranty (=

[MrGumis2010]

hay algo que si es cierto, que se puede apostar por una ingeniería mas barata, por casi la misma calidad, cosas que no hacen todos la mayoría de constructores, sean japoneses o eurpeos, hyosung les a dado el ejemplo... y el usuario final, ha ganado.

[mccarthy155]

that shitty ad for that shitty make up artist show made me laugh..

And How did i know that this MOTORCYCLENEWDOTCOM review would pick the kawasaki first...

They always do. these guys do some terrible reviews. no facts, no numbers, not even any video really.

[mccarthy155]

that shitty ad for that shitty make up artist show made me laugh..

[orodriguesjoe]

hello, anyone could write the outcome of the comparison, what they talked about each of the bikes? I'm struggling to understand what they are talking. write without slang, thanks.

[flyfastnhigh13]

Throw away the chinese junk! This is an mcn reviw= junk!

[DigiBiker11]

@flyfastnhigh13 Hyosung isn't Chinese, it's South Korean. And I used to own a Hyosung GT 125 and it was a great bike.

[earthboundcruiser]

Why do they have a bunch of noobs rating these things...I'd like to see guys who ride 24/7 and know what makes a reliable all round bike rating these things.

[IDtechno]

Kawa wins well deserved. It's fun to ride, easy to handle and looks great.

[steamtraintom]

the sv650 puts out 73hp not 69, and is group 9 not group 10. the sv650 is much nicer than the hyosung, i have had the hyosung gt125 and gt250r, and am glad to be away from them and on the sv. the sv is a much more fun bike to ride than any hyosung and they are much easier and cheaper to maintain. the hyosung is not faster than the sv plus its heavierm the sv650 is a lovely bike, restricted or not, i've recently taken the restrictors out of mine and i loved it restricted and love it even more now

[Matt81ist]

Guidate un SV650S e non vorrete più guidare un altra moto....Vtwin power!

[LurenZ87]

SV650S, il resto è noia...

[bySeyton]

ER - 6n forever

[KingCast65]

I prefer my 650R but they are all good.

[MotorcycleSportBikes]

SV 650s is Simple the Best!!!!!!

[ArGyProductions]

Thanks for posting this, i'm gettin the 09 sv650s for my first bike

[Danlow23]

I passed all these bikes up for the Yamaha xj6. Why wasn't it in this group?

[gatykeAD]

@Danlow23 because all these bikes have a learner legal varient.

[klined]

@Danlow23

price as he mentioned

[bySeyton]

@Danlow23 is even.

[GGBULLETz]

@Danlow23 because its old as fuck and these are all 2009-2010s

[Danlow23]

@GGBULLETz  do your homework mate.The xj6 was a brand new model in 2009.It replaced the xj600.

[emriaco]

@Danlow23 maybe because it is inline 4 and comparing 4s wit 2s is pointless?

[bakels123]

@Danlow23

Its not a twin.

[RedBullBurger25]

@Danlow23

yeah, i dont even think they sell hyosungs in America hahahhaaa so theirs no point in it for me

[slunkmonky]

@RedBullBurger25 We have them in Austin Texas. I'm considering the gt650. I used to want a sv650 but I dont want to buy a discontinued model. Then again,, will Hyosung make it to Hyundai status? or Daewoo status?

[aTuWitty]

@slunkmonky If it's parts you're worried about, don't... the motor has BY FAR the most aftermarket and factory support of any of these three, and it continues on in the DL650 (for the most part). Parts might be an issue 30 years from now, but then, in 30 years, only the Suzuki will still be running anyway :)

[opmike343]

@slunkmonky

A discontinued SV will be easier to service and find parts for than ANY Hyosung.

[cashman156]

Hyodung ...like Hyundai might be good? , but who the hell wants to admit to owning one! (personal opinion) lol

[RickLectums]

Just got the sv650s, he's right about the riding position, don't get me wrong i adore this bike, after about 2 hours of riding ( which i only did once, bringing the bike from west palm beach to miami) my wrists got a little sore..but then again that was my first time riding that bike. All great bikes, the american-sold 650r is a great one too.

[joewarcupinhull]

Ive just turned 16 and im doing my CBT on Sunday. Im already looking towards the future, would you reccomend getting a used version of one of these or something like a CBR400 when i turn 17 and have done my Full UK Motorcycle licence.

Also, what would be a rough estimate for insurance on something like a 400/650 for a 17 year old?

Thanks

[fatfree0]

@joewarcupinhull I recently bought myself a GSX650F, same engine as the SV650S. I passed my test 2 weeks ago, and it's costing me £627 a year. That's as an 18 year old with a years no claims on a 125cc Scooter.

[L4Isoside]

@fatfree0 what? the gsxf has a IL4 engine, the sv is a vtwin engine

my 10 year old sv at 17 cost me 500 quid for a year, no ncb too..

although should go down now as i am 18

[jhb972]

They finally invested into a proper camera and sound!! I'm impressed lool nah seriously, for me I would hesitate between the Hyosung and the Kawasaki.

[Newtttton]

Who cares what newbies think of the bikes?

[bumarse6667]

@Newtttton

Because they're entry level bikes?

[LoneWolf138]

so us the bloody bikes mate! C'mon.........

[seb1041]

I want to see the bikes, not the bikers...c'mon.

[pbmax]

Why is he saying that the bike is 5000 lbs? man that's heavy!

[hgjisnfdlishdjthlre]

@pbmax. I honestly don't know if you're joking, but he meant £...

[Goffens]

Get some lethers on them rookies.... 

[cshields]

I would like to hear what the bikes sound like stationary under revs in all reviews. That is definitely a factor for me in deciding which bike to buy (eg. I really hate the sound of mid-range Kwaks and that would really put me off buying one).

[lateboy4]

@cshields u tart! lol

[johnfash]

I'm looking at a 500 for my first bike, Honda CB500 probably, seems to be the best of the bunch. I have got my module 2 coming up on DAS so fingers crossed

[Chilazr]

holy cow, an MCN video with a verdict. Agree with it or not, this is one of the extremely rare comparos that I've seen where they've actually talked about the bikes and then given their opinion on which is best.

[MfalmeVTold]

Guys... BMW F800R, this is the best naked in the group of under 1000cc twins. No doubt about it. And with Akrapović (even though I'm not a big fan of this manufacturer) it sounds better than all these small V-Twins. Really, check it out, bike is just awesome, great for city riding.

[DuranXL]

@MfalmeVTold

Ehm ye except the F800R is 2x the prive of a SV650.

Also, Street triple > F800R...

[lukeandjoshua]

not bad Mcn Not bad at all i have an sv 650 my self its th 2000 model ( SF) and it goes like stink but i will admit iv sat on the ninja 650n and it is a lot more adecuate for every day riding

[lukeandjoshua]

SV 650 S #FTW

[bfmv580]

Kawasaki #FTW

[gangsta078]

ive recently passed my test but am on a restricted licence, bought a yamaha fz6n s2 2008 and its brilliant, shame the damn 33 bhp has to be in it but still. Cost 245 quid for the restriction and fitting! all it is is a throttle stop too which has annoyed me, cant wait for this restriction to end although it would have far to much power for a first big bike almost 100bhp so in reality its a good thing its in.

[Buttmunch5000]

you can pick up a Honda CB500 for about £600ish for a good one with lowish miles

[DuranXL]

And if the hyosung is fastest, handles really well, is on-par quality-wise with the japanese AND is cheapest.... why isn't it first?

[hvkv0000]

@DuranXL this is a very good question, i just got my par licence and took every 600cc bike i could for a test ride and i thought the hoysung was a blast, it was the least expensive one, the most fun,although it was hevier than the other bikes it had a solid strong feel to it.. i thought it would hav definitely been the first pic..

[masterknaster]

@DuranXL becuase its corean and they don't trust 'em for some reason.

[gongzee]

@DuranXL It really isn't on par with japanese quality yet. I own a 2010 one. It's ok, but it's build quality is really not up there.

[Lamaj96]

@gongzee Why in the world would you buy one then LOL?

[gongzee]

@Lamaj96 Many reasons. 1) Cheaper. 2) Bigger frame (250's anyway, which is what I'm restricted to). I want to upgrade to a sv650, and this bike helps me get used to the size. 3) bigger fuel tanks than most 4) Much better than Chinese bikes

[Lamaj96]

@gongzee Those are all good reasons but does the fact that you'll be getting a different bike limit the effect of the build quality. For bikes that people start on or only buy for a certain amount of time, i think the build quality would have to be really really bad to counter the better price and size etc. Honda's, yamaha's etc make better long term bikes i guess.

I just thought you didn't like the bike yet bought it anways suggesting it was another ninja rider just hating for no good reason.

[gongzee]

@Lamaj96 To be honest I have no love for this bike I have. It's merely a stepping stone, and it does it ok. Unfortunately, there's a certain stigma associated with riding hyos, and personally I would like to upgrade as soon as I can. So yes, you were actually right in saying that I didn't like it but bought it anyway, to fill certain purposes. I can attest to build quality. Mine is already starting to rust (8months old). And no, I hate ninjas. I would rather have this hyo than one of those

[DuranXL]

What do you mean the SV is back? I think UK only, because on all the other suzuki sites the SV650 is not listed

[select899]

@DuranXL Yes, it is wwwDOTsuzuki-gbDOTcoDOTuk/bike­/sv650sl0/

[Mechkiller1982]

Yay, the sv is back

[VLFabian]

i'd take the hyosung or the suzuki, but your the experts, thanks for the information.

[themorganator]

good video MCN!