Batman's parents death

[Mercenary78]

you ever dance with the devil by the pale moonlight > don't be afraid bruce...

[SpiffyAnthony]

you know what i wonder... what would it be like if they remade batman 20-30 years from now?

Thomas Wayne: Son... Don't be afrai-

Bruce: hold on, Dad... I gotta beat this last level of Angry Birds on my iPhone... I almost got it THE HIGH SCORE!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SHIT?! oh and check this out, i got an app that makes my phone act like a gun... BANG! haha i got you dad!

[ravenouscolonelhart]

1989 version was creepier - Jack Nicholson, that line about the devil, etc. But the 2005 version was better in showing why Bruce Wayne won't use guns, and how enraged he is that all it takes is a cheap little tool to destroy a man like Thomas Wayne. Perhaps the coolest thing about Batman is the constant reinterpretation of a few basic ideas.

[starguy13]

I like how in begins it shows what a sad scared little man Joe Chill was. A thief who went to far.

[TheDoctorofOdoIsland]

The one from Batman: The Animated Series is the most accurate. Thomas and Martha walk down a tunnel, which rips out of the ground to reveal itself as a giant gun barrel. It rises to the sky as the city crumbles apart into an inferno, blood oozing out of the barrel. Flames lick across it as the hammer pulls back, leaving Bruce to shout no helplessly when all goes white and the gun shot echos throughout the void.

That's how Batman remembers it anyway...

[SLPIFan]

The BEGINS scene is more accurate, but I find the 89 version to be more chilling and memorable. In the begins version the murder was clearly out of fear and panic. In the 89 version it was clearly cold blooded and a true act of evil, and to me that was more terrifying.

Plus I personally never minded Burton's change to having Joker kill Batman's parents.

[TheGhostgift]

1989

[The501Rex]

poor bruce and when he was a kid

[MegaLink08]

I'd have to go with Batman Begins. Don't get me wrong, 1989 was a good movie, it's just that for accuracy, it was Joe Chill and not Jack Napier (the Joker doesn't have a real name) who created Batman.

[xgmb45]

i liked the 1989 version better. It was also a great concept that the joker killed batmans parents.

[foodbug]

either way both have the pearl necklace lol, only similarly in the death lol jk

[vinrich]

Begins. Jack Napier (Joker) didn't kill the Wayne's.

[Toby99able]

I loved these Batman Begins and Batman 89 version. I will tell something compare with these things in Batman 89 version The Joker who Murdered Batman's parents went totally away source material and still was good and pluse at a very good line with Jack Napier Tell me kid do u ever dance with devil in pale moon light. That scred heck of me. Batman Begins scared one heck too. I loved true to orginal source matieral, in comics Joe chill dies in Batman Year 2 comic and in movie he died at court.

[Bond335]

You think Joe Chill ripping off Mrs. Wayne's necklace was homage to the first Batman movie? I just thought of that.

[pewparoothepewparoo]

I think that's supposed to be Bob the Goon, not Chill in the '89 version.

[Amigo1580]

@pewparoothepewparoo if the Other Mugger is Chill, he must be credited as Young Bob, not Other Mugger. Also Chill scared runs like the Jack Napier's partner in this film. Bob isn't nervous like Chill.

[7thNCtrooper2]

Both are good in their own respects, but I am going to have to go with Batman Begins. There was a build up to the death scene and a reason why he left the theatre, his fear of bats.

[tomboyjgh]

I like the batman begins one. It's way more realistic. And bruce looks waayyy cuter!

[narutofan9tf]

Batman Begins one is more tragic and realistic. His parents also seem very humble compared to the 89 version. It also drives Batman's motive into freeing Gotham from crime, a desperate and deprived man was forced into murder and crime; a thing in which Batman wants to cure. The 1989 one has a lunatic firing at will, no sense of reluctance, realism.

[Pssybart]

I prefer the 89 version even if it differs more than the comic, it has a creepier atmosphere. I read complaints about Bruce not showing any emotion: Of course not! If I were threatened by a scary guy with a gun, I wouldn't have time to cry.

[TheEmpireGold]

Batman Begins by miles, because the whole mood seems more realistic (behaviorally), as compared to the one of 1989, which clearly looks conceited - with Gotham City of that being something off a hazy dream, to begin with. None the less, the 1989's one was quite touching.

[SonofJones]

I think they're equal. Batman and Batman Begins both include a scene that's perfect for the tone each movie sets. So, like almost everything else in the two movies, it's all a matter of personal preference.

[baylaust]

In my opinion, the BB version seemed a lot more emotional than the Tim Burton version. And, as the person below me said, the Bruce in the TB one doesn't look like he really cares.

[LegoCollector46]

I like every part in the 1989 version except for Bruce Wayne. In the Batman Begins one he shows emotion but in 1989 version he just stares at Jack. But I prefer the 1989 version.

[Amigo1580]

In Batman Forever appears the flashback when the Waynes was killed by Napier.

[grumpytosnowwhite]

I preferred the Begins one. It wasn't all forshadowed: it was totally normal until Chill took them down out of nowhere - which is exactly how young Bruce Wayne must have felt like. It was also more realistic, and more intimate, as Thomas Wayne was a known character, and spoke, making the death way more meaningful. Also, the fact that Chill killed them perfectly tied in with Gotham's crime and poverty.

But I really love the line "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

[Agent47Chris]

Batman Begins is the original!

[rm2kking]

Burton version is a no-go. Joe Chill killed the Waynes, not Joker.

[Amigo1580]

but Chill was with Jack Napier (Joker) in the Waynes murder

[rm2kking]

A nameless thug was, he may have been Chill, but the inclusion of Joker's guilt in their murder was just an idea contrived by Tim Burton to add drama to the relationship between he and Batman. The Tim Burton version also does some other stupid things, like having Batman recklessly reveal his identity to Vicki Vale, and showing him kill thugs left and right with no discrimination or remorse.

[Amigo1580]

In every Batman movies, he reveals his identy to the women that loves. In the Tim Burton version Chill and Napier kills the Waynes. In wikipedia in english a jerk administrator deny that Jack Napier appears in the Bruce's flashback in Batman Forever.

[rm2kking]

That's dumb. Napier is definitely in the Batman Forever flashback. The problem I have with Batman revealing his identity to Vicki Vale is that he barely knew her, the whole relationship seemed rushed, and shes a reporter. She has every reason to expose him. Even if she didn't, I think it was reckless for him to have taken that risk. With Rachel in Batman Begins, though, he had known her all of his life. I do like Burton's Batman, but it's not exactly accurate (except for Joker) and Batman kills.

[Amigo1580]

Then say that to the wikipedia administrators the true: the killer in Batman Forever flashback is Jack Napier.

[QueenOfTheKelpies]

I think the Batman Begins version was better as it seemed more realistic. There was no brooding feeling from the begining, it was just a happy family leaving the opera house through the back door and then out of the blue comes a man with a gun.

[DarkDarvor]

I prefer the BB onen, and not because it is the joker that kills Bruce's parents in Batman 89. I think Nolan did it creepier because it is more realistic (and not romantic at all) and also because before this scene, he showed Thomas Wayne as being a very good father. Then, his death is way more frightening. and the fact that it is joe chill who kills them shows how desperate the simple people of Gotham are. The joker is a bad guy, so watching him killing them is not as important;

[SawyerSoze]

Personally, I like the creepiness of the '89 version, but I didn't like how the Joker was the one who did it.

[TubbyCatProductions]

I'm the complete opposite. I love the twist that it was the Joker, but I think the shooting scene was cheesy, not creepy.

[wantsvictory]

both scenes would have been better had the production crew included a laugh track at the points where the parents got shot.

[McGeesJabberwock]

The 1989 seemed creepy and nightmarish, but was ruined with the corny twist of Joker being the killer of the Waynes. (One of the interesting things about Joker is that he has no real ties to Batman's past and Batman knows next to nothing about him, yet he is still his #1 enemy. I think Killing Joke mentioned that aspect.) Begins was an improvement, it was actually quite a tearjerker.

[zufgh]

dude there will 'never' be a better wayne death scene than this, this really creeped me out when i was like 6 and in many ways it's *still* scary.

[DPboy20]

Jack Napier/Joker version from '89 is just brilliant. Burton hit the tip of the nail with that one. Justified why Joker is Batman's #1 enemy as well.

[rm2kking]

Joker has other reasons for beign batman's #1 villain, and not made-up-by-tim-burton reasons either. Batman strives for order, and the Joker is the embodiment of chaos. Not only that but both comic-book versions of Joker's origin make Batman out to be partly to blame for his disfigurement.

[thatstrbl]

The original one is absolutely surreal. Napier is creepy and does propel the story much more than the Batman Beings one. I don't give a damn about the geeks who care about the Joker being made the murderer. It's dramatic, it's frightening, and it justifies the Joker's death. Far superior to some hobo mugging a family and Thomas Wayne's generic last line.

[KillaCam97]

The joker is the one who killed batmans parents you know

[LWAigasu]

Only in the 89 film

[deadly112]

batman begins is more accurate but batman takes place around the 60s i think because in batman animated series everytime they watch TV's its black and white and all the characters in batman dress 60s styles especially joker

[kornflakes13]

so the joker is not batman's parent's killer... it was only for that movie :o

[spottedfungi]

The scene from Batman begins is much better. Bruce's father is brave, and he acts in a rational manner attempting to diffuse the situation. You can really see how much he loves his family. The scene from Batman(1989) is more surreal and strikes me as more of an effort to propell the plot of the movie than a truly dramatic scene.

[zufgh]

uh.........what ? Bruce's father 'also' tried to save his family in this film or did him sticking up for his wife not count as heroic ?.

[DjHyphie]

what the hell, theres no fuckin comparison the first one pisses all over the second one, its just a classic scene. Its soooo dark,and sad. I watched this recently again (it was my fave movie as a child and still is one of them). It sent a cold shiver aound my whole body. That line what jack says to bruce as a kid is soooooo dark, and is a classic line.

[Sc0lopendra]

In my opinion, the best line in this scene at the very first Batman movie in 1989...

"You ever dance with the devil by the pale moonlight?"

[Mrster]

First one. Napier was at his scariest there too.

[josatinho]

first one

[clovie101]

Batman begins is so much better.

Oh Mrster,wtf are you talking about.Joe chill is the one who is supposed to be the killer of the waynes,not the joker.Batman89 sucked big balls.