Fire Service Elevator on a Dover Elevator at RIT Imaging Sciences Building

[elevatorgeek1234]

The key for the photo eye should be either H2395 or H1846.

[clarkloveselevators]

I have a fire service key! It is usually the H2395 Key for Dover/ThyssenKrupp!

[88888kitty1]

@clarkloveselevators I have the H2389 What does that one do?

[elevatorgeek1234]

@clarkloveselevators H2395 is for light/fan/independent service. The fire service key is H2389.

[clarkloveselevators]

@elevatorgeek1234 Then thats weird! I have the H2395 AND IT WILL WORK!!! That is just really confusing!

[elevatorgeek1234]

@8350717ful You can find many elevator keys on Ebay.

[msj191961]

What key is that? And nice video!

[elevatorgeek1234]

@msj191961 H2389 for fire service. H2395 for light/fan/independent service.

[msj191961]

@elevatorgeek1234 Do you know what key would operate inspection service and the stop/run?

[elevatorgeek1234]

@msj191961 H1846

[ElevatorKeys]

You are in violation of code 762.4558. which states you must keep your elevator keys organized also code 762.2018 excessive fumbling to get to your keys and lastly 762.4308 illegal use of a fire service, and just a crappy video overall..

[ZombyZac]

It disables the buzz on Fire Service.

[pieguy61]

Why isn't the floor indicator working?

[elevatorgeek1234]

Is it correct that the H2395 key operates the light/fan switches, independent service, and run/stop switches?

[aa9g1]

@elevatorgeek1234 It is. There are other keys too like the H1848 for lock switches & the H2389 for fire service mode (too name a few).

[elevatorgeek1234]

@aa9g1 Someone said the H1846 key operated the lockout switches. Do you know what the H1846 key operates?

[theansulman]

@elevatorgeek1234 The H1846 key operates the hoistway and cartop inspection switches

[danbel899]

i would love to see the emergency stop happen

[redneckelevatorman]

Do you post signage that allows people to know that the elevator is out of service when you do your illegal fire service testing?What would you do if the controller faulted out while you were doing your illegal fire service test and you got stuck in the car?No amount of keys will help you then and you sure will look stupid when the service tech comes out to free you and he finds the car still on fire service in the fault log.

[ElevatorMan2012]

Interesting! I went to a church once that had a copy of the Dover key for each keyhole (except Fire Service I think) and they were all left in. How many elevator keys do you have (not just for Dover, but all in general?)

[shsav2012]

everybody jimster gave diecelducy and musicfreakcc the keys diecelducy told me and @musicfreekcc what does photo key meaan because i saw it on the elevator at school

[thyssenelevator95]

The Photo Eye keyswitch switches off the one or two "magic eye" beams that will stop the door if there is an obstruction. It was the predecessor to the modern "light curtain" system like Otis Lambda 3D and ThyssenKrupp Microlight. They were installed in the last elevators with bumpers and are frequently installed in modernizations.

[elevatorgeek1234]

@thyssenelevator95 Do you have any idea what key this switch uses? I've always been curious.

[thyssenelevator95]

@elevatorgeek1234 According to my 2001 ThyssenKrupp Elevator Owner's Guide, the Photo Eye switch uses key #2395. That same key also works the light, 1/2 speed fan, light/fan, door hold, hospital service, and independent service switches.

[TERRELL465]

most of the time if you look right above the elevator, you'll see a fire alarm smoke detector. It most likely has a connected relay that can automatically stop the elevator when the detector is activated. The fire alarm control panel can also stop the elevator when needed.

[DoverElevators]

i need to buy a key,  does it come from thyssenkrupp directly? or will my local locksmith be able to give me one??

[pnwelevator]

What is floor A?

[stevethemeave45]

@pnwelevator atrium?

[danbel899]

very great job filming this elevator. I learned some excellent info.

[ATITANIC1992]

how did you steal the keys? i have only managed to get my hands on one.

[masterelevatordriver]

WOW, How do you know having your key?

[willmurray47906]

Be careful the door protection is disabled on fire service. You could hurt yourself or someone else if they attempt to put their arm etc in the path of the door while closing. Also the noise on going to the top means the car hydraulic fluid is low.

[dieselducy]

LOL @ musicfreakcc couldn't find the right key :)

[tpirjunky]

Love those doors. Great demo!

[jimster586]

Nice job!

[musicfreakcc]

Thanks!

[elevatorgeek88]

i wonder if this is an freight elevator

[Ih8escalators]

Turn the fan off next time.

[elevatorgeek1234]

Also, the elevator only responds to a change in the key position with the doors completely open, so that's why it didn't return when you turned the key off.

[Elevator5519]

When you hit call cancel when it was moving, did it stop between floors?

[thecooldude9999]

nice disclaimer lol!

[elevatorman138]

Where did you get the keys?

[elevatorsonly]

How did you get that truckload of keys?

[elevatorgeek1234]

Where did you get the key?

[thyssenelevator95]

Ok. At the hospital where I have filmed many elevators, the maintenance guy said that enabling fire service will set off the fire alarms. A person in the condo complex said the same. Is this true??

[musicfreakcc]

It depends - I tried the same thing on a new TK elevator, and TK's office called the elevator's phone because they have remote monitoring.

[thyssenelevator95]

Was it a Signa4?

[thyssenelevator95]

Also, what did they say?

[musicfreakcc]

It had Aurora fixtures, and I was simply connected to a hold line.

[elevatorsonly]

Wow.

[elevatorgeek1234]

@thyssenelevator95 It depends on how fire service is tripped. If you use the key switch, it should not trip the alarm. If fire service was to be activated from a smoke detector, then it should indeed trip the alarm.