if it was not for the Facist Reich's atrocities in Rodinia during Barbarossa, Then the Red Army of my forefathers woudn't have felt the burning rage of revenge when we ravaged Germany.
The burning rage of revenge? Guess most Russians just had the choice to decide between two evil....one was Stalin who killed at least as many Russians as the other one...Hitler´s Stormtroopers. The decision was mostly based on the simple fact that if you have no choice you decide for the one who speaks at least your language...
hah. My grandpa was fighting on the SU side. And he didn't do that because of fear. He did it because his family was in danger. His brother was killed by Germans in example. You talk about things that you couldn't even imagine, so be more polite and read some memoirs of the Veterans.
Well...you can twist it as you want...I have read some memoirs of Russian veterans. Defending your country is one thing...but I am sure the individual fate of your grandpa does fit in there but that still does not justify a stalin regime which fucked its people as much as Nazi-Germany did...
You are right, but this is not a Stalins sin. It's very sad to say, but in some times, it was the only key to survive. For example:
Germans mg42 was a very powerful enemy for Russian infantry. It was better than other mgs. People knew, that they would die storming that bunker with MGs. But that bunker was placed in a strategic point. Ofcourse commanders said: "Charge!". Ofcourse they shot everyone who was running backwards. It was the only choice. But Commanders died too if the infantry failed.
Well...that is a sad truth though. However...there is no room for glorification...on no side. I am not a big friend of communism and the Stalin regime....The outcome of teh battle kept Stalin´s regime alive and sure that was not best for millions of Russians. On the other hand Nazi-Germany with its racist idiology of being the defender of the bolschevic pest would not have been a good option either. It is good the conflict is over as too many people lost their lifes for basically nothing...
I think most of the adult German population at the time should be held partly responsible for the nazi attrocities. They allowed Germany's name to be tarnished for generations to come. I for one will never buy German products.
you my friend are ingnorent if you think the german population as aa whole is responsablie. so a little reseach and see what got germany desperate enough to contemplate the regime. take a look at post world war 1 germany. then make a comment.
let me know what books youve read becuase ive never read any books that say the whole german population was in on genocide that were truely a credible historian. look int o a hypothetical time where a wagon full of money because of the versille treaty chouldnt get you a loaf of bread. now imagine that going on for years and not only that .... ill finish later i got to go.
James...if your real profession is teacher as shown in your profile you have just disqualified yourself. Your comment does not show any sence of knowledge or understanding...
Not all were but when it comes down to it, most were. When "hunting" means killing humans because of a religion and it's a sport..? I'm not sure I would say they weren't evil.
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thedoorsareblue 10 months ago
if it was not for the Facist Reich's atrocities in Rodinia during Barbarossa, Then the Red Army of my forefathers woudn't have felt the burning rage of revenge when we ravaged Germany.
RvBphil 3 years ago
The burning rage of revenge? Guess most Russians just had the choice to decide between two evil....one was Stalin who killed at least as many Russians as the other one...Hitler´s Stormtroopers. The decision was mostly based on the simple fact that if you have no choice you decide for the one who speaks at least your language...
Elgrande555 2 years ago
hah. My grandpa was fighting on the SU side. And he didn't do that because of fear. He did it because his family was in danger. His brother was killed by Germans in example. You talk about things that you couldn't even imagine, so be more polite and read some memoirs of the Veterans.
Mamadar003 2 years ago
Well...you can twist it as you want...I have read some memoirs of Russian veterans. Defending your country is one thing...but I am sure the individual fate of your grandpa does fit in there but that still does not justify a stalin regime which fucked its people as much as Nazi-Germany did...
Elgrande555 2 years ago
You are right, but this is not a Stalins sin. It's very sad to say, but in some times, it was the only key to survive. For example:
Germans mg42 was a very powerful enemy for Russian infantry. It was better than other mgs. People knew, that they would die storming that bunker with MGs. But that bunker was placed in a strategic point. Ofcourse commanders said: "Charge!". Ofcourse they shot everyone who was running backwards. It was the only choice. But Commanders died too if the infantry failed.
Mamadar003 2 years ago
Well...that is a sad truth though. However...there is no room for glorification...on no side. I am not a big friend of communism and the Stalin regime....The outcome of teh battle kept Stalin´s regime alive and sure that was not best for millions of Russians. On the other hand Nazi-Germany with its racist idiology of being the defender of the bolschevic pest would not have been a good option either. It is good the conflict is over as too many people lost their lifes for basically nothing...
Elgrande555 2 years ago
I think most of the adult German population at the time should be held partly responsible for the nazi attrocities. They allowed Germany's name to be tarnished for generations to come. I for one will never buy German products.
JamesF63 4 years ago
you my friend are ingnorent if you think the german population as aa whole is responsablie. so a little reseach and see what got germany desperate enough to contemplate the regime. take a look at post world war 1 germany. then make a comment.
flashbangkenny123 4 years ago
I have read a number of books about the causes of ther second world war. I stand by what I said.
JamesF63 4 years ago
let me know what books youve read becuase ive never read any books that say the whole german population was in on genocide that were truely a credible historian. look int o a hypothetical time where a wagon full of money because of the versille treaty chouldnt get you a loaf of bread. now imagine that going on for years and not only that .... ill finish later i got to go.
flashbangkenny123 4 years ago
@JamesF63 You may found wally in all pages but you are an incredible ignorant
Vanluisteas 8 months ago
I believe for the rest of human history the people of the Russian Motherland will dispise Germany for its crimes against use
RvBphil 3 years ago
James...if your real profession is teacher as shown in your profile you have just disqualified yourself. Your comment does not show any sence of knowledge or understanding...
Elgrande555 2 years ago
IS there reaally no way to download this video?
icecold19019 4 years ago
i cried at that part in 00:55
ww2fan39 5 years ago
why?
LBHxProductions 2 years ago
Just....sad looking picture.
ww2fan39 2 years ago
i wasn't judging... just wondering =\.
LBHxProductions 2 years ago
ég er graður
egill5 5 years ago
r thous marder 3 M's at :33 ???
modelsdkfz184 5 years ago
those are 3 russian su 76 self propeled guns
flashbangkenny123 5 years ago
Gorgeous. Had to watch it twice-my eyes were too wet!
Fluechtlinger 5 years ago
Very nice and sad video.
Locmur 5 years ago
i think the song is called string quartet number 14 by beethoven
ww2fan39 5 years ago
It's good to see that even non-germans see that the germans weren't so cruel as they're always represented.
Ostmob 5 years ago
Not all were but when it comes down to it, most were. When "hunting" means killing humans because of a religion and it's a sport..? I'm not sure I would say they weren't evil.
LBHxProductions 2 years ago
Vielen Dank für dieses Video. Mein Onkel war in Berlin während des Krieges. Danke.
Mica178 5 years ago
thank you so much
flashbangkenny123 5 years ago
good slideshow
ww2fan39 5 years ago