(02) Why We Fight: "Prelude to War" (ca. 1943) 2/6

[CoryThe411]

Pay close attention AMERICA!!! Our leaders are doing the same thing as Hitler!

The Truth shall set you free

[Pre114]

lol, finally, some genuine anti axis propaganda.

[leegeorgeson]

The last obstacle? HA! Moderate religious groups opposed Hitler because they were moderates. Not because they were religious.

Don't forget, the Pope was one of the first to endorse Hitler and Mussolini. And many Lutherans liked Hitler's emphasis on homophobia and "traditional" family values. Sound Familiar Texas? 

[leegeorgeson]

Meiji had more personal charismatic power but the office of the Emperor is still created by Japanese cultural paradigms and those in charge of them. The Imperial house is non-belligerent NOW because Japanese people are so embarassed and longing to forget the atrocities they committed. But back then? They were warmongering much like other cultures that go to war.

[Hisotrygeek94]

SA trooper smashing the Ten Commandments... gee, why does this sound SO familiar? /sarcasm

[somehowsane]

what makes this any different than German, Italian or Japanese propaganda from that period?

[Hisotrygeek94]

LOL, love the way the Japanese teacher waved his hands in the air every time he shouted "BANZAI!"

[Coldgin94]

It was the same thing in Russia

Remember a guy named....Joseph Staline ?

[Vidda90]

I never knew that Hitler killed Protestants and Catholics I though he only went after Jews.

[leegeorgeson]

@Vidda90 Well he did :) Sort of like how right-wing politicians go after Christians when they call for charity or pacifism, but still gather support from the Christian-Right. The Catholic Church and several Protestant denominations were enthusiastic about Hitler's rise to power, in fact the Catholic Church was the first to recognize the dictatorship of Mussolini and Hitler as well...

[Hisotrygeek94]

@leegeorgeson And the way Obama's Administration slanders Christianity (sort of like that, anyway).

[snakes3425]

How much power Hirohito had during the war and the events leading upto it is up for debate, since absolute power rested with Prime Minster Hiedeki Tojo and the army, and at the time the Army could do what ever it wanted, and was known to use the Emperor's name or Japan's honor as an excuse for starting the war

[2bn442RCT]

@snakes3425 It can be a little confusing but your correct. If the Emperor announced to the people "I'm against war", it might not have happened. However, the army controlled the information that was presented to him. In Japan the Emperor is like above politics really like a god than a king. The army had absolute control over the politics in Japan.

[snakes3425]

@2bn442RCT

The Army also controled what information was released to the Japanese people, there was an attempted coup by militartists to keep the war going after the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the only reason it fell threw was that a group of B-29s on their way to bomb an oil storage depot flew over head while the coup was going on

[2bn442RCT]

@snakes3425 that's true too. It went too. The lies went to extreme lengths. Far worse than Nazi Germany.

[leegeorgeson]

@2bn442RCT The Japanese Emperor was willing to allow an empire to be carved out in his name but he wanted nothing to do with the responsibility and hard work. Remember this is a man that loved marine biology, flowers and was the first Emperor to refuse concubines, he was not about confrontation but he knew that its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, also he did not think that war crimes were an unnecessary precept to war. He authorized the gassing of Chinese over 300 times.

[2bn442RCT]

@leegeorgeson That's true he did authorize the use of chemical weapons which is a war crime. However, I'm not sure how many times he authorized the non-military use of chemical weapons.

[renno103]

@2bn442RCT Chemical weapons aren't war atrocities, The U.S used them in Vietnam, the Japanese didn't even manage to develop chemical weapons in the end anyway.

[GCarty80]

@renno103

Actually, the Japanese DID use chemical weapons in China. It was BIOLOGICAL weapons which they attempted (and failed) to develop at the infamous Unit 731.

[leegeorgeson]

@2bn442RCT About 300 times

[snakes3425]

@2bn442RCT

When it comes to Japanese War Crimes responsibility it's hard to decern who ordered what. According the consitution at the time the military was answerable only to the Emperor, not the civilian government, and it was a common practice for a low ranking officers and field generals to override the orders of their superiors, the government or the Emperor if they felt the orders violated Japan's honor

[leegeorgeson]

@snakes3425 Hirohito was not responsible for the war, nor was he not unresponsible. Its that he was not responsible ENOUGH. Much like The King of Italy was the ceremonial figure above Mussolini (who he invited to Rome) or Queen Victory over top of the British Opium Dealers, and how Bush was above the conglomerate that tipped the electoral college, lied to America's allies, ripped off Canada in trade, tortured people and lost ten trillion dollars...

[leegeorgeson]

@leegeorgeson Queen Victoria, my bad lol, or myself above my horrible spelling mistake, hahaha

[DracoMalfoy87]

I think the military had the real power. That's how ancient Japanese history worked too. The emperor only really had power under Meiji (1868-19teens) then I think, and in extremely ancient times

[snakes3425]

@DracoMalfoy87

The Emperor did have political power during the Nara and Hiean Periods, until the 1180-85 Genpei War which brought the first recorded Shogunite to power

[DracoMalfoy87]

Yeah...I guess that's what I meant by "extremely ancient." Not that ancient then...

Do you think that emperor Meiji had real power?

[snakes3425]

@DracoMalfoy87

Yes and no it depended on how the constitution was interpreted Article 11 made the Military answerable only to the Emperor and not the civlian government, and Article 55 rendered Imperial decrees useless without a Minister's signiture, and these ministers could only be appointed and removed by the Emperor not the Prime Minister, in the case of Hirohito he could have issued the order for the Pearl Harbor attack fleet to turn back but the military would've simply ignored it

[DracoMalfoy87]

Maybe Meiji was a stronger character than Hirohito

[snakes3425]

@DracoMalfoy87

It is known Hirohito ordered an attempted coup by militarists put down however some say if he didn't bow to the militarists pressure they would remove him by force and place a more militant member of the Imperial Family on the throne so I guess why he didn't open his mouth until the end is that the militarists threatened to harm him or his family

[snakes3425]

Black Shirts: Fascisti and Schultzstaffen (SS)

Brown Shirts: Gestapo and SA

Imperial Japan: The Black Dragon Society, the Tokko (Thought Police) the Kempeitai (The Japanese verson of the SS and Gestapo) and Unit 731

[CastleSnowflake]

inglorius bastards could be a true story they where us soldiers undercover that loved killing nazis in the film

[HannibalFL86]

@CastleSnowflake No.. no it couldn't.

[Coldgin94]

Those documentarys are very interestings with all the historic footages....

But there are directed by Americans , and sometimes , they look like

the "Chicago Gangsters" movies !

[5B0YAKASHA5]

Whats is the song at 5:33-5:50 ???

[5B0YAKASHA5]

Whats is the song at 5:33-5:50 ???

[PaulRietvoorn]

does anyone know what that march from 8:40 is called?

[5B0YAKASHA5]

@PaulRietvoorn I think it's from Triumph of the Will but I'm not sure.

[leegeorgeson]

Every country has war heroes and war villains. Read up on it. Every country had soldiers raping, torturing and mutilating innocent people. Though the Axis were the ones with Slaves, (and the Russians) some of their soldiers were appalled at massacring innocents. Oskar Schindler, he is a German hero. Dr. Manabe helped some Jews escape (after the Nazis ordered the Shanghai jewery killed) and a South East Asian carried a Japanese soldier down an entire mountain! Not to mention xmas truces...

[oddballrach]

(Part2)John Rabe, the chairman of TSZC wrote in his diary on December 10, that when the Nanking battle began, the population was 200,000. After the war in the Nanking city, the population was increased. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000. Chinese government said 300,000 people were killed by Japanese. How?

[oddballrach]

(Part1) Chinese committed murders and rapes during the Sino-Japanese war, and they said these crimes were committed by Japanese. Also, Mr. Timperley who was an advisor to the Chinese Nationalist governments Ministry of Information was paid by the Ministry of Information for editing the book What War Means which was written about Japanese atrocity.

[AllTheUsernamesRUsed]

I am a rational historian who looks at the perspectives of different idealogies...but this propaganda is effective!!

[leegeorgeson]

The Swastica and the Hammer I have seen but the Black Dragon? I am curious to learn more about that :)

[Kits2Shoes]

I believe that you might find more info on the Black Dragon secret society which has just been activated again on ThankYouWhiteKnights channel.

[snakes3425]

@leegeorgeson

The Black Dragon Society a paramilitary and ultra-nationlist group prominant in Japan, initally directed against the Soviet Union in the 20s and 30s it expanded to included spies and sabatures during World War II and operated through out the world, including the United States during the war

[ultrakayp]

THEN GOD MUST GO! hahahahaha!

[billy2bob]

Get the ten commandments out of the courts...shred the constitution...put all the power into the executive...nationalize industry...torture....

We're pretty much there.

[billy2bob]

No he's not.

[billy2bob]

The symbol of the fasces (italy/rome) is on the wall of the US senate.

[NaziXZombieXCody]

why is it interesting the kids are singing the song? its called loving their country. even tho i dont aprove of what they did.

[DLAbaoaqu]

Almost reminds me of things going on in the US, especially after analyzing what Rosenberg demanded

[elbuggo]

I can see some similarities with the Obama Youth.

[sicilia313]

a new Reich and atheism all over the world again

[billy2bob]

And AmeriCorps. AmeriCorps youth.

And what is this "civilian security force?"

[PjoiiRk]

@elbuggo hi my name is polly

[philipperholland]

@elbuggo you should maybe see a shrink then

[ChrisMathers3501]

@elbuggo Tell that to someone who doesn't have a job because the last President used our tax dollars to light his cigar, wipe his ass, and indebt us to China in exchange for letting them use our country as a dumping ground for their crappiest products because he wants to start a war for oil with a country that didn't attack us, costing us victory in the country that DID, and we still have to pay the same price at the pump as always. I ain't even a liberal, I just have this odd ability to think.

[YouT00ber]

interesting to see the kids singing the hitler songs.

[cheapy2006]

no mention of cuddly uncle joe. . . . strange.

[TheOriginalEntz]

Where's Stalin ? Oh right this video is old ...