MK9 and PM9

[reesie0414]

thinking of buying a mk 9 for my wife and a mk 40 for myself. How is the trigger on these? Anyone can tell me please?

[MichaelSupple]

New MKs are drop free, and irregardless Cylinder & Slide has this as one of the treatments included in their packages. C&S only charge an arm and a leg for a 8 month delay on a days worth of dremmel tooling away edges...

[bigdaddyitalia22]

If I may burden you for a moment I'm thinking of buying the mk9 what are your thoughts

So mk9 vs pm9

Have you hot a chance to shoot the cw to compare

And have you got the chance to shoot the kel tec pf9

How do you carry (do you feel the gun is to hevy)

Would you buy this gun agin

[Letsmakeasamich]

Grips screws fer sur, I always do that when tightening them back up on my guns.

[mokyan7]

Agreed that want that magazine to drop right out. But isn't a casino a 'pistol free' zone? Don't want to heist the high rollers, right?

[noneofurdamnbiz]

That's not the factory grip on the MK9. So you change the grip, put it on way too tight, and then blame the gun? Brilliant.

[Flatline32]

@noneofurdamnbiz

It wasn't the grip screws... The spring tension on the mag release made the release hold the mag in place.

Brilliant!

[flicksguns]

Grip screws are too long, and when tightened snug they protrude slightly into the magwell, dragging on the magazine.

Same thing happens on my kahr T40 mags if it's a little snug. Trim them down in length a little bit.

1911 grip screws fit perfectly as well, you may want to look at some slim 1911 grip screws and see if those are short enough for you.

[iphonenj]

I had a similar problem. Turns out that the Crimson Trace grips were the problem. Did you have this problem with the regular grips. I shoot in competitions and I have to make sure my mags drop free and every problem I have had was caused by either the grip being too tight or interfering with the mag or a tight spring in the mag well depending on the gun;s design.

[craig4252]

Wouldn't it make more sense to do this again with the slides locked back? It's an interesting video anyway.

[mvelimir]

MK9 is steel frame pistol while PM9 is polymer frame. Steel magazine when released creating a friction with steel frame doesn't allow for empty magazine to freely drop out. That obviously is not a case with polymer frame.

Nice post! And very good point to consider while debating which CCW pistol to go with.

[mgonzalez348]

what is the meaning of the video I personaly dont understand .....

[kiffdawg24]

the point is, if you cheat him at poker, he will load a clip...........lol

[metaZen]

@kiffdawg24 magazine.

[m2steven]

And the point is?

[verticallyblessed]

hold the release button down all the way until the mag drops free. If you release the mag catch just momentarily it clamps back down on the body of the magazine. If your mag cath is plastin on the MK, that could also be the reason. But try holding it down first. The mags are small and light weight, they don't fall with the same velocity larger mags do.

[kattowitz3]

Hmmmm, it does seem like they're just plastic toy guns... they make a plastic sound plus they seem to be too easy to handle, a weapon like that is quite heavy, you wouldn't be able to hold it with 2 fingers unless you work out your fingers.

[thz14u]

looks like plastic pistols

no weight means no hard impact

simple

a toy gun i guess

[monkeyinatree123]

i was wondering if theres any difference between the mk40 and the mk9?

[pubpukeNfight]

Recoil

[rangerdanger222]

Stoping power.

[sgtssstutter]

so..which is which?

[heat45jc]

the one with the all polymer plastic bottom is the pm9. the one with the crimson trace laser grips is the mk9

[FuchsTone66]

Have you had any issues with the PM9? My mags started getting loose both my polymer PM9 and CW45. With the .45 I'd sometimes have to really slam up the mag to catch. On th PM9 there develope a lot fo play and it wouldn't seat up correctly. There would be a gap at the bottom of the mag as compared to the bottom of the grip base. I could push it up and down about 1/8". It would cause some jams. So know they are in the preowned section at Cabela's and took home Ruger sp101 and a NAA 380 on order.

[robert21256]

I can't believe I can't find a video of the MK40.

[heat45jc]

he shoulda showed off the crimson trace lasergrips on the mk9

[nitro169169]

Notice the guy pushes the mag release, and quickly releases it. Then on the PM9 he pushes and holds it. I can make almost any gun hold it's mag if you quickly press and release the mag catch. you need to hold it in untell the mag clears the pistol.

[passive101]

Kahr does say the new PM9 is NOT drop free, but that most guns will become drop free after break in.

I have not heard of anything new with the MK9 though.

[cramsa]

It looks like the grip screws are over tightened and too deep... touching the mag sides. My MK9 is perfectly drop free.... I would recommend you adjust the grip screws.

[Flatline32]

The mag release and retention of the mag are identical to the example depicted in the video; even without the grips installed and no grip screws in the frame.

[eric21881]

@cramsa

how is the mk9 for pocket carry?

[peteypete730]

Is that a Crimson Trace laser grip on the mk9? If so , I had the same problem with mine. It was the plastic piece that holds the batteries in place in the grip. One of them was not seated correctly and was not allowing the mag to fall when released.

[buzzclark]

Hi. I (HAD) a PM9 and the polymer wore down to the extent that it no longer served as a guide rail for the frame. I tried to reason with Kahr but with a warranty had just passed expired by only a month and they refused to repair or replace stating warranty no longer in effect. So, I say get the P9 in ALL METAL. The PM9 did not have a locking block - it was only polymer(plastic) that served as the frame rail for the slide. all that money down the drane. you cannot purchase just the frame.

[QwikKota]

Incorrect. There are two lower metal inserts on the front of the PM9 frame that serve as guide rails. They are not on the same plane as the rear rails. The PM9 uses the slide release/take down pin as a locking block. I have both of these guns and both drop freely but the PM9 has a much softer engagement. PM9 has less recoil to me, go figure.

[gladiesclark]

Well, OK. I will tell you one thing - on my gun the right front part of the frame - the same part that fit into the slide - just like on the left side of the frame - there was NOTHING THERE!! OK.?! I showed it to 3 people at the gunshop where I purchased it. All three professionals were in agreement that it wore down, or was defective from the get. So, like I said above you cannot purchase just the polymer frame you have to purchase a new gun. I'm out the money so I have bitchin' rights.

[buzzclark]

well, it's my gun it's just that I used my wife's computer to respond. - don't want her gettin the blame. Sorry. buzzclark

[buzzclark]

Also there is more give in the polymer so less felt recoil - you also have the benefit of easier takedowns. However, the polymer will wear out and all you will be left with is a slide - SO, Kahr's are not intended to be range guns or to achieve a high round count. They are small, light, concealable and usually used by police departments as secondary backup weapons.

[QwikKota]

I would think the metal insert aka 'guide' would have to either be left out by mistake at the factory or have been knocked out by the slides action for it to be missing. Like I said, the upper part of the slide on the front which is inline to the rear guide inserts does ride along a polymer rail but the lower front part of the slide which is where the recoil spring is, has steel inserts like on the rear. I prefer them to be in the same plane but what can you do.

[QwikKota]

My first MK9 was very easy to take down but my 2nd is very hard. And I checked last night, all of my mags drop free even when empty. This MK9 was made in 1998 or so and has tons of rounds through it with no problems so your comment about them only being used for low round counts doesn't apply to the steel frames. And I hope that's not true on the polymer ones as I would like to own and shoot my PM9 for a long time.

[buzzclark]

Well, at this time my main comments would be how bad my product was. I really feel it was a factory or design defect as can be verified by as I stated 3 gun professionals in the gunshop. Also, the poor customer service I received and we must also remember that Kahr had a history of turning out bad batches. The comment regarding their limitations of round count referred to the polymer version mainly intented as concealed carry and not range or sport shooters. But I hope you have better luck.

[buzzclark]

But I hope you have better luck with your polymer versions. I have 2 metal versions. The K 9 in black and also the K 9 Elite which I must wait 30 days to take position of because I live in California and am subjected to limitations of a "sensitive" state. Sincerely, JAMES.

[QwikKota]

Sorry you live in Cali. I can buy a gun on my lunch break and still have time left to shoot it. Texas. I would love to have a K9/40 the rubber grip is vastly improved over the MK9's plastic panels. I believe most of the PM9's with problems were the first few years of production and I too hope mine works well. I shot it again yest, I believe it is more accurate than my Glock 27 and way easier to conceal. Starting to get the hang of the trigger as well.

[toddallenhooper]

Hey man do you have the PM and MK 9's? I'm tryin' to decide between the two, but haven't gotten to fire them. Which do you prefer? which is easier to fire more accurately with?

[xxBleedxxLikexxMexx]

you might have your grip screws on to tight on the mk9. that happened to me when i put different grips on my beretta 92fs. try loosening them up just a tiny bit and see if that makes a difference...