Please do not mix political thought to the Yasukuni Shrine.
During World War II, young Japanese have been forced to go to war. We Japanese understand well that they are also victims of war. Yasukuni Shrine is a sacred place enshrined the spirits of former military personnel. Protest based on political thought is a blasphemy to the dead people.
Japanese Killed more civillians than Germany, Japanese raped more women than Germany, Japanese looted more than Germany, Japanese experimented on more people than Germany. The Japanese systematically killed 22 million Chinese civillians... a forgotten holocaust, why is it only 56 Chinese prisoners of the tens of thousands who were in Japanese captivity survive the war. Of the 50'000 British soldiers captured by the Japanese, 13'000 died in captivity. EXPLAIN THAT.
I haven't yet seen this documentary; but from what I've heard, it covers views from several perspectives which making this documentary moderately politically correct.
Besides, it is each individual who decides whether or not to see this film. It really is a shame that some people and organizations actually tried to ban it.
As a African American I think that a country can not get over it's painful past until they have fully and totally disclosor of the past, no white wishing it just straight facts. And when the whole nation apolozies for its wrongs then it can be truly welcomed into the
internatoinal community. So to me this is not just about war crimes or slaver or wrongful use of the press but finding self redemption. Then we all can raise our heads high and proudly move into the 21 century.
Almost the Imperial Japanese Army's war crimes that you believe are bad raps (false accusation). The imperial Japanese Army was wrongly accused of war crimes by Allies (U.S. UK, Australia, and China). Because Allies, specially the United States needed to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- Holocaust using fake Imperial Japanese Army's war crimes. The United States and other allied countries tried desperately to spread groundless black propaganda of Imperial Japanese Army's war crimes in fact.
Yes we have to respect all of the soldiers who died in the war for their country even Nazi germany. It was not the troops who started the war but it was the leaders of the government. All the civilians as well as the troops r the victims of the war.
Ur kind of off the subject.. That incident was the government vs their citizen. WWII was country vs country. The troops fought FOR their country; meaning "they fought to PROTECT their citizens from their enemies."
not really...are u telling me thats what the film's about? or are u telling me thats the fact? the soldiers fot to protect their country? cuz i dont think attacking a weak nation i.e. China & Korea is a mean to "protect their citizen from their enermy"
The war happened because of the leaders of the governments on both sides. The blame is also at Chinese government leader back then. I do feel sorry for the chinese and korean victims but also for the japanese victims as well. What i think is this; civilians AND the soldiers are both victims of the war. The blame is at the governments and not at the soldiers.
yea, ur mostly right, but i blame those militarism, i.e. Hedeki Tojo, and his comrades, who took control of the govt, cuz i read the japanese govt at that time, there are many objection and anti-war politicians, as well as japanese anti-war protestors, but they were assissnated by militarist govt, is that right?
i'm not sure about the assassination of the anti-war politicians but maybe there was cuz the militarism became super strong and took control as the war escalated. There are so many hidden stories behind WWII i guess.
We Japanese have been harassed by "anti-Japanese stalkers" who were brainwashed by anti-Japanese education based on outrageous made-up history (China and U.S. accused Japanese Military of falsely for war-crimes during World War II) over the past 20 years. Most of anti-Japanese stalkers are Koreans and Chinese. These anti-Japanese stalkers were implanted strong anti-Japanese sentiment into their mind under the pretext of patriotic education.
They have literally thousands of pictures, hundreds of eyewitnesses and hundreds of pages of first-hand documentation from 5 Western nations that conclusively prove Japanese war crimes. You would have better luck denying the Holocaust or theory of evolution.
Even those German Nazis you admire so much have confessed and apologized for their crimes.
If you don't get on your knees and beg for mercy we'll make Nagasaki and Hiroshima look like Sunday picnics by comparison.
Even Nazis like John Rabe were shocked by how brutal the Japanese were in Nanjing. JUST ADMIT IT: the Japanese Army committed terrible crimes during WW2. Admit it and then we'll all forgive you and move on.
@prowhaler: You're no better than a Neo-Nazi. You cannot honestly deny history and you disrespect the millions who died by making claims of "anti-Japanese" sentiment. World peace will never be a reality if people like you continue to deny your history.
@2008venom Perhaps you're not aware of what was meant by "Neo-Nazi". Neo-Nazis are modern fascists who deny that war crimes actually happened, which was my point toward prowhaler as they are in denial about what took place during the war. The comparison is based on denial, not the types of crimes.
I mean, Japan is different from Nazis Germany. Nazis is being blamed as of today because ofC) Crimes against Humanity (Holocaust) mainly. But Japan committed such crimes, and it is frustrating Chinese and Koreans.
To give Japan the same image with Nazis is popular technique of Anti-Japanese propaganda, often used by Chinese and Koreans. For example, Unit 731, Comfort women, Nanking massacre, etc and etc.
Japan is the biggest single country that has been contributing to the improvement of colored races in the world. Japan fought against Britain and the U.S. intending to liberate Asian races suffered from Euro-American harsh colonial rule during World War II. As a result, many Asian races emerged from Euro-American harsh colonial rule. Meanwhile, the Chinese people have been maligning the reputation of colored races in the world. China is pushing outrageous black propaganda against Japan.
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Don't easily say liberating. Every country has right to stand alone. You just describe your war crime that Japanese protected Asian countries against western. No country has right to invade and rule the other countries. No difference between Japanese invasion and Western invasion. Japanese war crime was even worse than Western. It is time to reflect on anything worng doing during WW2. Japanese just uses a term of liberating to justify its wrong doing and crimes. Shame on you.
The existence of such anti-Japanese stalkers as "PowerofGeneration" has become known among the Japanese people. Basically, most of anti-Japanese stalkers are Chinese and Koreans. China and Korea have been conducting Anti-Japanese Education on school children as national policy. China and Korea make school children hate Japan through history education. The contents of Anti-Japanese Education that they are conducting are based on so-called war-time propaganda quite far from the true history.
As anti-Japanese Education that China and Korea have been conducting are based on war-time propaganda 70 years ago, the contents of Anti-Japanese Education contain a lot of inconsistent theories. Therefore, the history that anti-Japanese stalkers are talking has a lot of contradictions. However, anti-Japanese stalkers never admit their mistakes even if their contradictions are pointed out. Because they are totally brainwashed or have strong inferiority complex toward Japan.
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How come you easily say a term of propaganda??
Don't you even know what was wrong doing and war crime, which had done by Japanese?? Basically, Japan had apologized, but Japanese behaviors have never changed. First of all, if japan try to justify war crime, all of far east countries can't gurantee a peace; moreover, all of far east countries can consider that Japan wants to bring a war same as world war2 and colonize. Korea has never teach anti-Japan education at the schools.
haha this antiwhaler is just spamming around with nonsense and trying to inflame normal-minded people on this cyberworld Youtube where you really can't do anything.
Next time, just mark him as SPAM and ignore them. They don't deserve your attention.
Japanese behaviors have never changed. We only claim Japan's true reflection. Can you imagine that Nazi's holocaust is going to be erased in European history?? As you justify and hide your ancestors war crime, we have to discover and resist more and more.
China (Han Chinese) has territorial ambitions to seize others' territories. In fact, China invaded Manchuria, Nei Mongol, Tibet, Uighur in 1946. The word "invasion" that China uses when China condemns Japan for Sino-Japanese War is one certain word that describes that China invaded Manchuria, Nei Mongol, Tibet, Uighur militarily. The word "imperialism" that China uses when China condemns Japan for Sino-Japanese War is one certain word that China took over other countries.
Japan didn't invade China. Chinese Military attacked Japanese military first and started the war in 1937. And Japanese Military got the capital city Nan king in 1937. But the Chinese Government didn't surrender and escaped to the west, Chongqing. Once the war starts, the war cannot end without either Japan or China surrender. So, This Sino-Japanese war should not be called "Invasion or aggressive war". So, we Japanese don't call Sino-Japanese war "invasion".
Technically they did. There wasn't proof that the railroad was bombed and the Japanese used that as a reason to invade. I for one am not against the Japanese because it's the 21st Century and it isn't as if China is all that great. Every country has their own horrific past and even present. But there is plenty of evidence about the Nanjing massacre and some people deny it. Can you deny the holocaust? There are also Japanese high school history textbooks that has raised controversy over content.
To all the Chinese people, why do you think the Chinese Communist Party is eager to make the Chinese people call Sino-Japanese War "Invasion or Japanese Imperialism's aggressive war"? I will teach all the Chinese people, the Chinese Communist Party wants to justify their own invasion to TIBET, Uighur, Nei Mongol and Manchuria and at the same time, they want to shut criticism against their actual invasion from the Japanese people. The Chinese Communist Party always beats Japan to the punch.
We Japanese understand that it is very immoral to present FAKE EVIDENCE in order to prove or appeal the Nanking Massacre. However, surprisingly, the Chinese people can present FAKE EVIDENCE or FAKE PHOTOS as evidence of the Nanking Massacre without hesitating. I would like ask the Chinese people, "Do you think the Chinese people are trust by the Japanese people?" We Japanese cannot live together with the Chinese people.
I don't know whether the Nanking Massacre happened actually because I was not there then. So, I cannot deny the Nanking Massacre. However, we Japanese can speak out in a loud and clear voice, "There is NO HARD (PHYSICAL) EVIDENCE that proves Japanese soldiers' atrocities in Nanking. We Japanese know...it is the fact that all 143 pictures that China is presenting as the photos of the Nanking Massacre have been revealed to be FAKE, or FABRICATEDE or utterly IRRELEVANT to the Nanking Massacre.
Seeing those Japanese worshippers dressed in full WW2 era Imperial Japanese Army uniform at the Yasukuni shrine with full endorsment from the government and without revulsion from its people makes you sick. Can you imagine young and old men, and government politicians alike in Germany today dressed in SS uniforms marching to the Reichstag or Hitler's bunker honouring war criminals.
i've seen reviews about the director's own, rather vague point of view. if this trailer is indicative, it does seem very plain reportage/coverage. obviously what's onscreen - the different interest groups, the symbols, etc. - is what's barring from its initial cancellation of screening.
Great documentary. I don't think it's anti-Japan at all. Many ppl only view the controversial shrine as one-dimensional(as they do with many other issues). Chinese/Korean only see it as a shrine that glorifies Japan's militarism part. Japanese only see it as a place to honor Japan's wardeads. After watching you may fine yourself understand both sides a little more. no narration at the background trying to impose the producer's idea on you. all real events captured in the shrine. 2 thumbs up!
Born and raised in America and having grandparents who lived through WWII when their country was invaded by Japan has given me a unique POV on Yasukuni and the Nihonjin. It was my pleasure and honor to visit the shrine. I have to admit that anger was the dominant emotion as I walked through the WWII exhibit. I kept an open mind and came to appreciate the meaning even though I don't agree with many things presented.
I'm anti-war. I study Chinese (Mandarin) and respect Chinese culture. But I am deeply troubled by the fact that there's this controversy around the Yasukuni Shrine, which basically honours ALL the war dead, including babies, mothers, average joe citizens, class A war criminals, and yes, even Koreans and non-Japanese. Yasukuni, it seems, is being used as a pawn by China and Japan. And it is highly immoral to dupe a 90-year-old katana craftsman into appearing in the film.
we all have our basic bottom line. ur view of religion is NOT universal. ur belief and practice ARE insult to asia victims. try to push ur view of ideology on sensitive issues, especially to victims, is not anti-war,is pro-war.
make it clear, we will never TOLERATE national worship of war criminals, which definitely shows deep in heart Japan still a nazi nation, no matter whatever makeup and excuses.
u want peace, show honest, u want war, we will give u one.
Yeah, I am anti-war. Why would I send hate mail to right-wing nationalists if I wasn't? But shiker99 sure ain't (we'll give you war! geez).
I see your point but this has a lot to do with Japan's wishy washy "XXX did evil things, but he wasn't PURE evil" morality. I know it causes terrible emotions but this vagueness is ingrained in the culture. You'd understand if you lived here; it's frustrating but not pure malice as you might think.
Although such a film will garner deep distrust from native Japanese and misinterpretation.
This film should also allow self-reflection and more understanding for the Japanese commoner. The education from a history textbook is certainly not enough.
Why is this a fiction? Does Yasukuni shrine not exist? Does the shrine not contains the classA criminals?
This is a moment for self-reflections for everyone and all the countries involved. Let's not rush to deny or judge, but to learn what happened 60 years ago so it would not happen again.
bte011=> it doesnt matter if japan is a developed country. what matters is just how much power the people have over their own government. sadly, right now they have less say in what goes on in the government (compared to the US).
Right-Power in Japanese society is not just a little but huge.But I don't know whether it still keep growing or not. But I think most Japanese are friendly and humble.Anyway Japanese is a developed country.
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Please do not mix political thought to the Yasukuni Shrine.
During World War II, young Japanese have been forced to go to war. We Japanese understand well that they are also victims of war. Yasukuni Shrine is a sacred place enshrined the spirits of former military personnel. Protest based on political thought is a blasphemy to the dead people.
oneofthejapanese 2 weeks ago
Japanese Killed more civillians than Germany, Japanese raped more women than Germany, Japanese looted more than Germany, Japanese experimented on more people than Germany. The Japanese systematically killed 22 million Chinese civillians... a forgotten holocaust, why is it only 56 Chinese prisoners of the tens of thousands who were in Japanese captivity survive the war. Of the 50'000 British soldiers captured by the Japanese, 13'000 died in captivity. EXPLAIN THAT.
theexpliotedforlife 7 months ago
I haven't yet seen this documentary; but from what I've heard, it covers views from several perspectives which making this documentary moderately politically correct.
Besides, it is each individual who decides whether or not to see this film. It really is a shame that some people and organizations actually tried to ban it.
Alillan 1 year ago
As a African American I think that a country can not get over it's painful past until they have fully and totally disclosor of the past, no white wishing it just straight facts. And when the whole nation apolozies for its wrongs then it can be truly welcomed into the
internatoinal community. So to me this is not just about war crimes or slaver or wrongful use of the press but finding self redemption. Then we all can raise our heads high and proudly move into the 21 century.
1banryukyu 1 year ago
国を挙げて事実を捏造してまで反日プロパガンダを行っている特アへの配慮は一切不要。特に、敗戦国の南北朝鮮に配慮する必要は一切ない。
これまで日本人は勝者の論理をやむなく受け入れ、それを真実として子供達に教えてきたが、そろそろ敗者の論理を主張してもよい時期に来ていると思う。
CHONOINK 2 years ago
靖国靖国他の国に干渉するなら、日本ももっと中国と韓国に親日行為の情報工作しないとな。 それか教科書改訂か。
いつまでもこんなやつらのいいなりになる必要はない。
mint090 2 years ago
@mint090
馬鹿やろう、てめのしたことか
mujinnokoya 2 years ago
言われる筋合いは無いと思います。
bakabonpapato7 2 years ago
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c2600707 2 years ago
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私は韓国人です私から見れば
国のため殺身成人の姿勢で命を投げた人のため慰霊することは当た り前だと思いますが靖国というそんな跡が持つ他の国に与えた影響 の深刻性を考えれば易く無視して参拝するのは日本の国際関係にし ても覚えらなかった人たちの心に悲愁を刺すということはもっと考 えなければならないと思います。
dhksrksalem 2 years ago
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Japs lied about using the sex slaves in ww2.
Japs lied about Nanking massacre.
they are still lying about their so called scientific "sashimi" research on whales.
it is a fucking joke.
SuperiorJap 2 years ago
You are lier.
kazuueda2008jp 2 years ago
Nazi war criminals accused for A)Crimes against Peace (invasion), B)Ordinary war crimes, and C)Crimes against Humanity (Holocaust).
Japanese war criminals accused for A)Crimes against Peace, B)Ordering ordinary war crimes, and C)Carrying out ordingary war crimes.
There was NO Japanese war criminal accused for Crimes against Humanity.
It is historical fact. Nazi and Imperial Japan were totally different.
2008venom 3 years ago
good movie,i wanna learn more 'bout this history
joezhangjiyao 3 years ago
なんだ、一党独裁情報統制国家のプロパガンダか。
00heven 3 years ago 2
見る価値もない安っぽい陳腐で恥ずかしい仕上がりですね。
監督のリ・インは素人？小物すぎる。
uneamaryllis 3 years ago 2
Almost the Imperial Japanese Army's war crimes that you believe are bad raps (false accusation). The imperial Japanese Army was wrongly accused of war crimes by Allies (U.S. UK, Australia, and China). Because Allies, specially the United States needed to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- Holocaust using fake Imperial Japanese Army's war crimes. The United States and other allied countries tried desperately to spread groundless black propaganda of Imperial Japanese Army's war crimes in fact.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 3
All these hatreds towards japanese make me sick. What's wrong with these people stuck in the past and history? Move on.
We must respect all the soldiers who put their lives for their countries no matter what race and what country they come from we must respect them.
wakabaw 3 years ago
according to your logic, we have to respect Nazi Germany Army in World War Two, Right?
Can you tolerate Nazi Holocaust in Europe? in France? If you do, I have nothing to blame you for your words here.
RichinaEmpire 3 years ago
Yes we have to respect all of the soldiers who died in the war for their country even Nazi germany. It was not the troops who started the war but it was the leaders of the government. All the civilians as well as the troops r the victims of the war.
wakabaw 3 years ago
in that case we must also respect those communist soldiers's crime the tiananmen square incident
dumdidolabumbuladido 3 years ago
Ur kind of off the subject.. That incident was the government vs their citizen. WWII was country vs country. The troops fought FOR their country; meaning "they fought to PROTECT their citizens from their enemies."
I hope u know what i mean.
wakabaw 3 years ago
not really...are u telling me thats what the film's about? or are u telling me thats the fact? the soldiers fot to protect their country? cuz i dont think attacking a weak nation i.e. China & Korea is a mean to "protect their citizen from their enermy"
dumdidolabumbuladido 3 years ago
The war happened because of the leaders of the governments on both sides. The blame is also at Chinese government leader back then. I do feel sorry for the chinese and korean victims but also for the japanese victims as well. What i think is this; civilians AND the soldiers are both victims of the war. The blame is at the governments and not at the soldiers.
wakabaw 3 years ago
yea, ur mostly right, but i blame those militarism, i.e. Hedeki Tojo, and his comrades, who took control of the govt, cuz i read the japanese govt at that time, there are many objection and anti-war politicians, as well as japanese anti-war protestors, but they were assissnated by militarist govt, is that right?
dumdidolabumbuladido 3 years ago
i'm not sure about the assassination of the anti-war politicians but maybe there was cuz the militarism became super strong and took control as the war escalated. There are so many hidden stories behind WWII i guess.
wakabaw 3 years ago
ひどい捏造映画ですね。
監督のリ・インは、靖国で土下座して全ての日本人に、現在を生きている日本人だけでなく、過去を生きた歴史上の日本人、全員に謝罪するべき。
その謝罪がなければ、この安手のプロパガンダ映像は永遠に告発され続ける。
kahoo98 3 years ago 9
We Japanese have been harassed by "anti-Japanese stalkers" who were brainwashed by anti-Japanese education based on outrageous made-up history (China and U.S. accused Japanese Military of falsely for war-crimes during World War II) over the past 20 years. Most of anti-Japanese stalkers are Koreans and Chinese. These anti-Japanese stalkers were implanted strong anti-Japanese sentiment into their mind under the pretext of patriotic education.
prowhaler 3 years ago 7
They have literally thousands of pictures, hundreds of eyewitnesses and hundreds of pages of first-hand documentation from 5 Western nations that conclusively prove Japanese war crimes. You would have better luck denying the Holocaust or theory of evolution.
Even those German Nazis you admire so much have confessed and apologized for their crimes.
If you don't get on your knees and beg for mercy we'll make Nagasaki and Hiroshima look like Sunday picnics by comparison.
Ecthelion008 3 years ago
Even Nazis like John Rabe were shocked by how brutal the Japanese were in Nanjing. JUST ADMIT IT: the Japanese Army committed terrible crimes during WW2. Admit it and then we'll all forgive you and move on.
HARburns 3 years ago
@prowhaler: You're no better than a Neo-Nazi. You cannot honestly deny history and you disrespect the millions who died by making claims of "anti-Japanese" sentiment. World peace will never be a reality if people like you continue to deny your history.
joebenevides 1 year ago 2
@joebenevides
Nazi war criminals accused for A) Crimees against Peace (aggression), B) Traditional war crimes, and C) Crimees against Humanity (Holocaust).
Japanese war criminals accused for A) Crime against Peace, B) Ordering Traditional war crime, and C) Carrying out Traditional war crime.
There was NO Japanese war criminal sentenced Crime against Humanity, because Japanese never planned extermination of one nation, like as Nazis.
Nazi and Imperial Japan were totally different.
2008venom 8 months ago
@2008venom Perhaps you're not aware of what was meant by "Neo-Nazi". Neo-Nazis are modern fascists who deny that war crimes actually happened, which was my point toward prowhaler as they are in denial about what took place during the war. The comparison is based on denial, not the types of crimes.
joebenevides 8 months ago
@joebenevides
I mean, Japan is different from Nazis Germany. Nazis is being blamed as of today because ofC) Crimes against Humanity (Holocaust) mainly. But Japan committed such crimes, and it is frustrating Chinese and Koreans.
To give Japan the same image with Nazis is popular technique of Anti-Japanese propaganda, often used by Chinese and Koreans. For example, Unit 731, Comfort women, Nanking massacre, etc and etc.
2008venom 8 months ago
松平と文字が見えました
UminoNuko 3 years ago
Japan is the biggest single country that has been contributing to the improvement of colored races in the world. Japan fought against Britain and the U.S. intending to liberate Asian races suffered from Euro-American harsh colonial rule during World War II. As a result, many Asian races emerged from Euro-American harsh colonial rule. Meanwhile, the Chinese people have been maligning the reputation of colored races in the world. China is pushing outrageous black propaganda against Japan.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 7
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Don't easily say liberating. Every country has right to stand alone. You just describe your war crime that Japanese protected Asian countries against western. No country has right to invade and rule the other countries. No difference between Japanese invasion and Western invasion. Japanese war crime was even worse than Western. It is time to reflect on anything worng doing during WW2. Japanese just uses a term of liberating to justify its wrong doing and crimes. Shame on you.
PowerofGeneration 3 years ago
The existence of such anti-Japanese stalkers as "PowerofGeneration" has become known among the Japanese people. Basically, most of anti-Japanese stalkers are Chinese and Koreans. China and Korea have been conducting Anti-Japanese Education on school children as national policy. China and Korea make school children hate Japan through history education. The contents of Anti-Japanese Education that they are conducting are based on so-called war-time propaganda quite far from the true history.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 6
As anti-Japanese Education that China and Korea have been conducting are based on war-time propaganda 70 years ago, the contents of Anti-Japanese Education contain a lot of inconsistent theories. Therefore, the history that anti-Japanese stalkers are talking has a lot of contradictions. However, anti-Japanese stalkers never admit their mistakes even if their contradictions are pointed out. Because they are totally brainwashed or have strong inferiority complex toward Japan.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 6
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How come you easily say a term of propaganda??
Don't you even know what was wrong doing and war crime, which had done by Japanese?? Basically, Japan had apologized, but Japanese behaviors have never changed. First of all, if japan try to justify war crime, all of far east countries can't gurantee a peace; moreover, all of far east countries can consider that Japan wants to bring a war same as world war2 and colonize. Korea has never teach anti-Japan education at the schools.
PowerofGeneration 3 years ago
haha this antiwhaler is just spamming around with nonsense and trying to inflame normal-minded people on this cyberworld Youtube where you really can't do anything.
Next time, just mark him as SPAM and ignore them. They don't deserve your attention.
mehdan2 3 years ago
Japanese behaviors have never changed. We only claim Japan's true reflection. Can you imagine that Nazi's holocaust is going to be erased in European history?? As you justify and hide your ancestors war crime, we have to discover and resist more and more.
PowerofGeneration 3 years ago
China (Han Chinese) has territorial ambitions to seize others' territories. In fact, China invaded Manchuria, Nei Mongol, Tibet, Uighur in 1946. The word "invasion" that China uses when China condemns Japan for Sino-Japanese War is one certain word that describes that China invaded Manchuria, Nei Mongol, Tibet, Uighur militarily. The word "imperialism" that China uses when China condemns Japan for Sino-Japanese War is one certain word that China took over other countries.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 6
それにしても政府が関わってこんな糞映画を作れる日本がまともに政治できるようになるには新世代が頑張らないと無理だね。
今の馬鹿役人では日本は守れない。
smilecat2 3 years ago 3
It is the propaganda movie which was settled with a traitor in the Japanese Government by the Chinese government
It is the movie of contents unlike the fact made by a Chinese.
smilecat2 3 years ago
you sure you know exactly what happened during the world war II? answer me seriously?? no kiding.
flyingbug001 3 years ago
Japan didn't invade China. Chinese Military attacked Japanese military first and started the war in 1937. And Japanese Military got the capital city Nan king in 1937. But the Chinese Government didn't surrender and escaped to the west, Chongqing. Once the war starts, the war cannot end without either Japan or China surrender. So, This Sino-Japanese war should not be called "Invasion or aggressive war". So, we Japanese don't call Sino-Japanese war "invasion".
antiwhaler 3 years ago
Jap's troop in China, what did that mean? Can we Chinese send 2 million troops to jap island and stay there permanently?
flyingbug001 3 years ago
Technically they did. There wasn't proof that the railroad was bombed and the Japanese used that as a reason to invade. I for one am not against the Japanese because it's the 21st Century and it isn't as if China is all that great. Every country has their own horrific past and even present. But there is plenty of evidence about the Nanjing massacre and some people deny it. Can you deny the holocaust? There are also Japanese high school history textbooks that has raised controversy over content.
kirby247 3 years ago
To all the Chinese people, why do you think the Chinese Communist Party is eager to make the Chinese people call Sino-Japanese War "Invasion or Japanese Imperialism's aggressive war"? I will teach all the Chinese people, the Chinese Communist Party wants to justify their own invasion to TIBET, Uighur, Nei Mongol and Manchuria and at the same time, they want to shut criticism against their actual invasion from the Japanese people. The Chinese Communist Party always beats Japan to the punch.
antiwhaler 3 years ago
you are a poor brainwashed guy.
flyingbug001 3 years ago
We Japanese understand that it is very immoral to present FAKE EVIDENCE in order to prove or appeal the Nanking Massacre. However, surprisingly, the Chinese people can present FAKE EVIDENCE or FAKE PHOTOS as evidence of the Nanking Massacre without hesitating. I would like ask the Chinese people, "Do you think the Chinese people are trust by the Japanese people?" We Japanese cannot live together with the Chinese people.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 2
I don't know whether the Nanking Massacre happened actually because I was not there then. So, I cannot deny the Nanking Massacre. However, we Japanese can speak out in a loud and clear voice, "There is NO HARD (PHYSICAL) EVIDENCE that proves Japanese soldiers' atrocities in Nanking. We Japanese know...it is the fact that all 143 pictures that China is presenting as the photos of the Nanking Massacre have been revealed to be FAKE, or FABRICATEDE or utterly IRRELEVANT to the Nanking Massacre.
antiwhaler 3 years ago 3
最も野卑な反日プロパガンダ映画。
支那人の知性の無さが露呈された傑作ですね。
kahoo98 3 years ago
Seeing those Japanese worshippers dressed in full WW2 era Imperial Japanese Army uniform at the Yasukuni shrine with full endorsment from the government and without revulsion from its people makes you sick. Can you imagine young and old men, and government politicians alike in Germany today dressed in SS uniforms marching to the Reichstag or Hitler's bunker honouring war criminals.
hizento 3 years ago 3
平和教育は、響きが良いだけの美しい教育
orange2578 3 years ago 2
i've seen reviews about the director's own, rather vague point of view. if this trailer is indicative, it does seem very plain reportage/coverage. obviously what's onscreen - the different interest groups, the symbols, etc. - is what's barring from its initial cancellation of screening.
edmame 3 years ago
发掘历史真相．珍惜生命＠
renxing8964 3 years ago
先の大戦を日本は愛する祖国のために戦いました。よって当然「愛国無罪」です！日本に一切の戦争責任はありません。謝罪も補償も一切する必要はありません。戦争とは外交の一種であり、善悪の問題ではありません。日本は9条を破棄し、国防軍を組織し自国の国防に専念すべきです。
migizuki08 3 years ago
靖国神社は「アジアの平和と統合の象徴的存在」であり、決して軍国主義の象徴ではありません。
migizuki08 3 years ago 5
だからアジアの皆さん！毎年8月にはみんなで靖国に行こうよ！
migizuki08 3 years ago 2
素晴らしい映画だと思います。まったく反日と思えません。多く人はいつも靖国神社について一元しか見えない。一部中国・韓国人は、この神社は日本の軍国主義の象徴しか見えない、一部日本人は、この神社は戦争で死んだ人の為の神社だから、他の国に関係ないしか考えてない。この映画見る後、お互いの感情もうちょっと理解できるだと思います。全部靖国で実際発生したの事件を撮ったし、客観的だと思います。
GENRONJIYU 3 years ago
Great documentary. I don't think it's anti-Japan at all. Many ppl only view the controversial shrine as one-dimensional(as they do with many other issues). Chinese/Korean only see it as a shrine that glorifies Japan's militarism part. Japanese only see it as a place to honor Japan's wardeads. After watching you may fine yourself understand both sides a little more. no narration at the background trying to impose the producer's idea on you. all real events captured in the shrine. 2 thumbs up!
GENRONJIYU 3 years ago
做到客观事实就好
toadcn 3 years ago
migizuki08さんのような無邪気な人を騙してナショナリズムを煽っている最近の右翼知識人？たちは本当に無責任な人たちだと思います。彼らはテレビや本では雄弁ですが、実際に日本が戦争を起こしたとしても、自分で戦地に赴くことはおそらくないでしょう。ちょうど第二次大戦が終結したときに、軍部や天皇が戦争責任を国民に押し付け、自らは戦おうとしなかったようにです。結局、日本が軍国化しても、migizuki08さんのような純粋に日本のことを想っている力も知識もない一般市民が無駄死にし、一部の人間が富と権力を牛耳るファシズム国家になるだけだと思います。そういう国にしようとしている人こそが本当の意味で「売国奴」なのではないでしょうか。
ネット右翼の方々はほとんど右翼知識人たちのプロパガンダを鵜呑みにしてしまった心根の素直な普通の人なのでしょうが、日本のためを思うならそろそろ自分で考えるということははじめてみてはどうですか？それが民主主義の基本だと思います。
『靖国』には賛否両論あるでしょうが、これを期に異なった考え方に触れ、改めて歴史問題について考えてみるといいと思います。
19lopom86 3 years ago
予告編の時点で気味が悪いです。
先入観でドキュメンタリー映画を作ってるのは、表現の自由なれど問題だと思います。
私は靖国に特別な思い入れはありませんが、この映画に悪意しか感じません。
世間が落ち着いたら見るかもしれませんが、その時はきちんとレビューを書こうと思います。
sjtaku 3 years ago 5
よく反日左翼の人が「日本は侵略戦争を起こした」と言ってますが、辞書によると「侵略＝ある国が他国の主権・領土・政治的独立を侵すため武力を行使すること。」とありました。日本は一体どこの国に対してこの辞書による意味での「侵略」戦争をしたのか、どなたか詳しく説明できる方、教えて頂けませんか？
migizuki08 3 years ago 2
安泰と平和を祈る神聖な境内でわめき散らす中国人が、連れ出され、一部の人間に暴力をふるわれるシーン（自演クサい）をクドいくらいやります。
全編ドキュメンタリーチックなのですが、境内での参拝者（なぜか軍関係者ばかり）達への法外な盗撮に対し、カメラ目線でヤラセ感抜群の台湾人（に扮した？）女性が、肉親の合祀取り下げを求めるシーンを延々やったり。（なぜかこのシーンだけは音声がばっちり）
そして刀匠を騙して出演させた真の理由は「百人斬っても刃こぼれしない」という証言をとるためのものでした。
いったいどこが監督の言う「日本へのラブコール」親日映画なのかさっぱりわかりません。とりあえず普通に映画の出来としても三流ですが。
日本人にも「チベット」というテーマの映画を中国内で無許可で撮影して、助成金をもらってメディア操作する人が現れるでしょうか。（笑）
この監督の人品骨柄を疑うばかりです。
jodanjyanaize1908 3 years ago 3
あなたのような頭の中がいつまでも「お花畑」の「エセ平和主義者」が世界中の「四面楚歌」とされる日がもうすぐそこまで来ています！
migizuki08 3 years ago
「敗戦国日本は悪であり有罪である！過去の侵略戦争の誤り悔い改めよ！戦勝国に謝罪と補償をせよ！」という者は「戦争とは、軍隊を使用した外交の一種であり、敗戦国は戦勝国の政策に従うのみであり、従って善悪や有罪無罪とは一切関係無い！」ということが分からぬ無知な愚か者である！日本は無罪だ！戦争責任など無い！
migizuki08 3 years ago
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migizuki08 3 years ago
dream on
pathetic loser
shiker99 3 years ago
一人で戦争してきてください～がんばってください
xinyu555888 3 years ago
大変残念ながらネットの発達により、これから日本は確実に右傾化・軍国主義化が進行します。もう誰も止めることは出来ません。危うし「エセ平和主義者」＆「反日左翼」！
migizuki08 3 years ago
軍隊をもつことは独立国に認められる「当然の権利」であり、世界的にも認められています。よって日本も当然独立国として軍隊を持つべきであり、他国が「日本は軍隊を持つな」と干渉するのは明らかに間違っています。さあ、日本は今こそ再軍備して自衛隊を「日本国防軍」に昇格させましょう！志願制の兵役制度を整備しましょう！日本を戦争できる「交戦権・戦争権」のある国に変えていきましょう！核兵器保有の世論を盛り上げましょう！頭の中が「お花畑」の時代は、もはや終わったのです！日本人よ！武器を取れ！！
migizuki08 3 years ago
Born and raised in America and having grandparents who lived through WWII when their country was invaded by Japan has given me a unique POV on Yasukuni and the Nihonjin. It was my pleasure and honor to visit the shrine. I have to admit that anger was the dominant emotion as I walked through the WWII exhibit. I kept an open mind and came to appreciate the meaning even though I don't agree with many things presented.
sophmore90 3 years ago
日本民族は「自存自衛の戦争」を戦いました。それはマッカーサー元帥も認めています。ですから侵略戦争は全くの 誤り、誤解です。また日本はアジア諸国解放、独立のためにも戦い、その結果、多くのアジア諸国が独立しまし た。よって日本は「正義の戦争」をしたのです！靖国神社の問題は要するに、その正義の戦争のために戦った人 に敬意を表することであり、それは世界的に見ても正しいことなのです。 そしてこれこそ全世界が認識すべき正しい歴史観なのです！
migizuki08 3 years ago 2
不敢正视自己民族做过的丑恶行径是可耻的,不但不正视反而找一群理由(如自卫战争之类)掩饰简直就是不要脸.不要以为发达国家了不起,日本今天的发达建立在中国无数人民鲜血中,竟然连一点忏悔之心都没有,反而狗急跳墙,恶人先告状,这样做只能越抹越黑,让事实更清楚的浮出水面.做错事请不要紧,一错再错就只能让人唾弃.除了无耻没有更好的词形容这样一群物种.建议小日们勇敢的面对现实吧！
顺便说一下，台湾是中国的一部分，这是不能改变的事实，某些人别白费心了。
yoyozhangshoo 3 years ago
I'm anti-war. I study Chinese (Mandarin) and respect Chinese culture. But I am deeply troubled by the fact that there's this controversy around the Yasukuni Shrine, which basically honours ALL the war dead, including babies, mothers, average joe citizens, class A war criminals, and yes, even Koreans and non-Japanese. Yasukuni, it seems, is being used as a pawn by China and Japan. And it is highly immoral to dupe a 90-year-old katana craftsman into appearing in the film.
yuiarakaki 3 years ago
um,basically I agree with you,but since I've not seen the film,I have no idea how that old man were used as you claimed
legend01oom 3 years ago
we all have our basic bottom line. ur view of religion is NOT universal. ur belief and practice ARE insult to asia victims. try to push ur view of ideology on sensitive issues, especially to victims, is not anti-war,is pro-war.
make it clear, we will never TOLERATE national worship of war criminals, which definitely shows deep in heart Japan still a nazi nation, no matter whatever makeup and excuses.
u want peace, show honest, u want war, we will give u one.
shiker99 3 years ago
If Germany has Hitler enshrined, would you still feel the same? Or do you think Jewish people may raise objections.
Also, if the documentary only showed what the craftsman does for his job, why is that immoral?
Are you really anti-war as you had claimed?
TiffanyFeng 3 years ago
Yeah, I am anti-war. Why would I send hate mail to right-wing nationalists if I wasn't? But shiker99 sure ain't (we'll give you war! geez).
I see your point but this has a lot to do with Japan's wishy washy "XXX did evil things, but he wasn't PURE evil" morality. I know it causes terrible emotions but this vagueness is ingrained in the culture. You'd understand if you lived here; it's frustrating but not pure malice as you might think.
yuiarakaki 3 years ago
アメリカが、日本に共産党を置いているのは、天皇制を警戒しているのでしょう。
poloma26 3 years ago
We Japanese are hero of Asian people and new leader of all over the world !!! Ha Ha Ha!!!
migizuki08 3 years ago
u will be showcase of mad dog of the world. carry on barking. let me see what u can do.
shiker99 3 years ago
日本の右翼たちが怒るのは分かるが、この映画よりももっと右翼たちが怒る映画が在ったはずですよ。たとえば、昭和天皇を画いた『太陽』とか『ヒロシマ・ナガサキ』ほかにもいろいろあるでしょう。多分、白人とアジア人の違いぐらいでしょう。
poloma26 3 years ago
(旧）日本軍＝亜細亜の解放軍＝正義の味方＝世界のＨＥＲＯ（英雄）！
戦地売春婦 （○：正解） 従軍慰安婦（×：捏造）
自存自衛戦争（○：正解） 侵略戦争 （×：誤解）
これ21世紀の新常識！！
migizuki08 3 years ago
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日本と台湾は一心同体：Japanese and Taiwanese,WE are brothers. 支那人出ていけ
hokila678 3 years ago
表現の自由なんたら以前に、
正規の手続きを経ず、また許可も得ず、果ては90歳の老職人を騙して撮影したゴミがこれ。
上映を決めた映画館はこんなゴミで金を盗るそうな。
kyokujitu 3 years ago 3
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very ugly poor propaganda film by sina's anti-japan facism.
this film is the shame of dignity of human being.
voltaire2667 3 years ago
第二次世界大戦のことですよ。今の倫理感で語れますか？その当時の世界の情報がどんなに不確かであるかは想像がつくでしょう。インターネットだって、携帯電話だってない時代ですよ。中国、韓国が歴史的写真を捏造する。これが、全ての答えですよ。つまり、捏造しなければ証拠がないということです。日本には、捏造していない証拠があります。日本全国、隅から隅まで探してみなさい。戦争に行ったおじいちゃんのアルバムは、ないですか？いくらでも出てきますよ、当時の写真が。笑顔にあふれ、中国人と楽しそうに食事をしている写真。中国人の赤ん坊を皆であやす写真。中国人が日本兵と踊る写真。これが真実です。虐殺どころか、国際交流です。事実、満州の人々は日本帝国時代が一番よかったと言っております。韓国にだって、日本語を話したがる老人はいくらでもいます。問題は、そのような人々に圧力をかける政府が存在することです。
Oidonosu 3 years ago 4
この映画はどんどんボロが出てきてますね。
demonkogure 3 years ago 7
予告編？いろいろな動画を継ぎはぎして音楽つけただけじゃんか。
予告編でこれじゃ、見れる映画じゃないな。
ニコニコ動画の職人のほうがもっといい予告編作れそう。
hennachinpo 3 years ago 6
悪いのは日本人でも中国人でもなく、天皇という装置を使って国民を洗脳し、アジアの国々を侵略した帝国主義だと思う。そして帝国主義はいまだに人類全体の問題でもある。ナショナリズムで歴史を考えるとお互いの主張がかみ合わず、結局対立を煽るだけになってしまう。同じ過ちを繰り返さないためにも、冷静になって過去と向き合ったほうがいいと思う。
g503570 3 years ago
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>> 悪いのは日本人でも中国人でもなく...
いや。お前等日本人どもが悪いやろ？南京大虐殺って聴いた事あるか、君？ニッポンの奴等が何ヶ国の人々に戦争犯罪したやんか。得に中国人にな。それで、中国人が日本軍人にレープされたり殺されたりやっちまったら、「日本人でも中国人でも悪くない」って誰が言える？！
帝国主義、帝国主義ってどんなに言い続けてもまだ第二次世界大戦の時の日本人が自分で決めて戦争犯罪やろ？「冷静になって過去と向き合ったほうがいい」と言っても、先ずは日本人は自分がやった事として責任を持つ冪。
discosupafly 3 years ago
たしかに南京大虐殺などの戦争犯罪について、日本人は責任を持ち、また中国人に対して謝罪すべきだと思う。ただ、それだけで問題が解決するとは言えないだろう。
戦勝国のアメリカもいまだに戦争犯罪を繰り返しているし、ヨーロッパの国々も植民地時代には残虐な行為を行っていた。また中国もチベットにおける人権侵害などの問題をかかえている。日本人が悪い、中国人が悪いを罪を擦り付け合っていても問題は泥沼化してしまいかねない。
国家や民族という名の下に国民を煽りたて、国益のために戦争を起こすグロテスクな帝国主義の正体に目を向けることが必要なのではないだろうか
g503570 3 years ago
Actually censorship is not a main issue.
It is kind like an exaggeration of media.
The main issue is Chinese director haven't got permission from performers including the old man who forged swords.
The director has been doubted to deceive them.
takotakoyasan 3 years ago
It should be educational.
Although such a film will garner deep distrust from native Japanese and misinterpretation.
This film should also allow self-reflection and more understanding for the Japanese commoner. The education from a history textbook is certainly not enough.
mehdan2 3 years ago 3
then make lawsuit instead of barking.
at least he didnt massive slaughter their family or rape their female relatives.
shiker99 3 years ago
I hope Japan will resist the pressure of censorship and let this movie show in public. Let the movie rise or fall on its own quality.
Dontbesocnn 3 years ago 4
まあ、面白そうじゃん。
それはそれとして、必ず税金は返せよな。
そして、根拠なく稲田や有村を糾弾した朝日や田原は釈明しろよ。
takotakoyasan 3 years ago 4
Would love to see it with English sub-titles !!
Looks very interesting....
ImperialPimp 3 years ago 2
必ず助成金は返させないと！
出演関係からのクレームも出て大変だね。
表現も自由だが効果ないと思うね。ご苦労！
un5931 3 years ago 3
私も「人を踏みにじる行為」は「現代」においては悪いこととされる。って一定の理解を示したレスしなかったっけ。中国人が言っていることって「過去」のことだろ。
間違っていることと悪いことのニュアンスも微妙なんだけど現代それやったら悪いことって糾弾されて然るべきかもだけど、60年前のそれを並べてくる連中、過去を糾弾して現在に謝罪を求めるといった中国人の論調があるのは知っていると思う。この動画には朝鮮人も居たけれど、割と過激なレスが多かった。私はここで「中国人がそう言うなら」という前提で現代に生きる日本人として過去の日本を現代なりに中国人を対象に野次ったつもり。実際のところ、中国に対しても明清からの流れを考えれば同情できる。実際はどっちが悪者かを決めるより、不幸な戦いだった。今度は起きないように努力しよう。くらいが妥当だろうと思っている。まあ様々な努力の上での開戦だったりもしたけど、あんまり言っても不毛なだけだしね。そちらのレス見て仕舞にするわ。
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago
SentinelOfNipponさんとほぼ同意見ですよ。
私も日本人に対して中国人が言っている発言には偏見を感じる。
ただ、反論として彼らの土俵まで降りていく必要はないと思うよ。
koukou00002 3 years ago 2
日本人も中国人も冷静さが大事ですよね。
この映画は反日でも親日でもないと思います。
tokyo226 3 years ago
出演者にせめて自分のシーンはカットしてくれと言ってる人がいるのにどうして上映しようとするの？何でちゃんと話し合って決めないんだろうか。なんかおかしいよね、この映画。
demonkogure 3 years ago
This is not a documentary film but fiction.
The old man is demanding the deleting of his part from the film.
This is an propaganda film created by mainly Chinese staff.
Chinese cheated Japanese government of public fund.
The old man and Japanese government are victims of confidence game.
gondwana 3 years ago
Why is this a fiction? Does Yasukuni shrine not exist? Does the shrine not contains the classA criminals?
This is a moment for self-reflections for everyone and all the countries involved. Let's not rush to deny or judge, but to learn what happened 60 years ago so it would not happen again.
TiffanyFeng 3 years ago
I agree with you. We have to learn from the tragedy we made in the past not to repeat it again.
But japanese radical rights are colonizing japanese internet society with their stupid ideaology, that is, "that war was right".
I hope rational people like you join this discussion and give us some interesting and constructing opinions. Thanks
19lopom86 3 years ago
どうしてこうまでも（日本も中国も）市民に声がないのだろう。日本人が自分の国に対する意見を述べればすぐに「中国へ帰れ」と言われたり殺されそうになったりする。自分が思っていることを「民主」国家、つまり自分が自分の意見を一番象徴してくれると思って「選んだ」政府に向けて言うのがそんなにいけないのか？
それに中国も中国だ。いつまでも「謝れ謝れ」と言って前へ進まないのはいけない。確かに中国は被害者だ。日本も被害者だ。両国ともいい加減に責任を押しあうのをやめて、こんなことが二度と起こらないようにどう対処できるのかを考えるべきだと私は思う。
bte011=> it doesnt matter if japan is a developed country. what matters is just how much power the people have over their own government. sadly, right now they have less say in what goes on in the government (compared to the US).
tubasa339 3 years ago 2
I love Japan.However,I don't think YASUKUNI is welcome.
jerrypoppy 3 years ago
日本は、なんてお人よしなんだろう。
明らかに中国人の中国人による視点で、宗教法人である靖国神社に何の断りも無く、また刀鍛冶の狩谷さんにも虚偽の説明をしたうえで編集し、緊急記者会見と称した席では、まるで被害者みたいな顔をして堂々と嘘をまくし立てる奴に助成金まで出す。
今までのコメントには媚中・韓・左翼の面々が必死で、このショートムービーに批判的な文にマイナスを付けている。
よーく考えろ、中国・韓国では自国に対して少しでもマイナスになるような映画に対しては、補助金どころか上映さえも国家の方針でしないだろう。
sarari48 3 years ago 2
プロパガンダ映画でも別に作るなとは言って無いしねぇ。
配給側に上映するしないの自由はあったとしても
それは資本主義的な選択の自由だと思う。
どうしても流したいならYoutubeやニコニコにでも流せば良いんです。
未だに南京虐殺とか信じてる中国人居ますし。
中国では共産党に批判的な映画は作れません。
独裁統制国家中華人民共和国には表現も思想も自由は無いのです。
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago 3
demonkogureさんが言うとおり
「日本人殺すとノーベル平和賞貰えそうというコメントに+１０も評価が付いている。逆にこの映画に批判的なコメントにはマイナスが 付く。」
人の意見を聞こうとしない無知な人がいるようですね。
koukou00002 3 years ago 4
Right-Power in Japanese society is not just a little but huge.But I don't know whether it still keep growing or not. But I think most Japanese are friendly and humble.Anyway Japanese is a developed country.
bte0100 3 years ago
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中国人の方がいたら是非答えて欲しいんだけど、
もちろん全員が全員って言ってる訳じゃないけども
なぜあなたたちは日本をそんなに敵視するの？
どんな感情があなたたちをそうさせてるの？
確かにあなたたちのご先祖は日本人に殺されたかもしれないけれども、それは日本人だって一緒だよ。戦争でたくさんの人が殺されたよ。
それでも、僕たちは別にそれに関しては何も思ってないし（大部分はね）、第一僕らはそれを経験していないのだから、それについて言及できるよりどころなんかみんな持ってないよ。
僕らの殺された先祖だって、僕らの代で復讐してほしいなんて決して願っていないとおもう。
僕は中国人の友達たくさんいるし、みんな本当にいい奴らだから、こうやって民族どうしが憎しみあってるのってなんだか残念でならない。
まぁ昔は色々とあったけどって、そんなことはさておいて、みんなで、馬鹿みたいに笑い合ってるのって、あほらしいけど、なんだかとっても素敵じゃない？
satobu0202 3 years ago
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誰も中国人そのものを憎んでいませんよ。相手が何人だろうが理不尽な事に疑問を持ってるだけ。
demonkogure 3 years ago
일본 우익단체와, 일본의 더러운 야스쿠니 종자들은 나가 죽어라. 더러운 원숭이들.
dirty yasukuni 右益japs must be killed.
FUCK THE YASUKUNI!!
yourfeel3 3 years ago 2
더러운 전쟁 범죄자 야스쿠니
yourfeel3 3 years ago 5
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日本人殺すとノーベル平和賞貰えそうというコメントに+１０も評価が付いている。逆にこの映画に批判的なコメントにはマイナスが付く。なんでしょうねぇこの偏り様はｗ
demonkogure 3 years ago
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とても名誉なことです（ノ∀｀）ははは。
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago
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せこい人間がやっているね。
恥じるべきだよ。
koukou00002 3 years ago
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靖国神社は１１日、ホームページ上で映画「靖国 ＹＡＳＵＫＵＮＩ」の李纓監督らに対し、
「境内における撮影許可手続きが遵守されていないだけでなく、内容についても事実を誤認させる」として、
映像削除などの対応を求める通知を行ったことを明らかにした。
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だそうです。またまたボロが出てきますね。テレビに出て会見までしてミスリードしてたジャーナリストの方々は恥ずかしく無いのですかね？
demonkogure 3 years ago
isn't this equivalent to worshiping the Nazis?
avinachg 3 years ago 10
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this film has many infringe on portrait rights by movie director. i never watch this film.
annobon 3 years ago
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entaxism 3 years ago
とりあえず内容観てから判断すべき事。
dasatei 3 years ago 6
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（´∀｀）・・・中国人が居るみたいなので。
当時のおめーら中国人が弱いのがいけないｗｗ
踏みにじられる奴が悪いｗｗｗｗ
西洋列強にいいようにされてｗｗｗｗ
自分が弱いことを日本に責任転嫁してんじゃねえよ。
食うか食われるか。そういう時代だったろ？
日本はそんな中で良く頑張ったよ。
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago
踏みにじられるのが悪いのではなく、踏みにじる方が悪い。
SentinelOfNipponさんが言われる、「日本は頑張ったよ。」何に頑張ったのか良く解りません。
私はそう思うよ。
koukou00002 3 years ago 3
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確かに、現代の考え方では侵略は悪いこと。
しかし、60年以上前は相手を倒すのが当たり前だった。
侵略戦争が当たり前だったのは解かるかな？
まあ、わからねーよなｗｗｗ
現代の考え方で過去の時代を語るのはナンセンスだって。
日本は頑張ったさ。
あの時日本が闘わなけりゃ今でもアジアは独立できないで
欧米に踏みにじられ搾取されてただろう。
君もロシア語喋ってるかもな。
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago
SentinelOfNipponさんは過去に生きる人なんだね。
過去の人間史をみて未来をどう生きようかと思わず、
侵略戦争が当たり前のように起っていた当時の狭き考えに
囚われ正当化するのはいかがなものかと思う。
「現代の考え方で過去の時代を語るのはナンセンスだって。」
過去があるから現代があるんだよね。現代の考えで過去を
振り返って未来を描く。当然の考えだよ。
過去を踏まえて、これからの生き方を考えてみたら。
日本が頑張ったと言うのには納得がいかないね。
それこそ想像で作った虚構でナンセンスな意見だね。
koukou00002 3 years ago
私も戦争は悲惨で嫌だね。でも誰も悪くない。日本も欧米諸国もそれぞれの正義を持って闘ったのだから。悪いとすれば人間そのもの。
過去から「人が殺し殺され死んでいくのは嫌だ」というのなら解かる。でも、だから過去は悪だと断罪するのはおかしい。今の我々が正しいかどうかもわからないわけで。
日本に対して過去の侵略は悪いと言うのは列強に搾取されるがままだった虚弱さを吐露し蹂躙され、自国さえ守れない「弱い中国」という真実を連呼してるのと同義。
そういうのを日本では「恥晒し」っていうんだよ。
侵略がいけないならチベットだって侵略っていうんだよ。
チベットで人を何万人殺したんだおまえら。
毛沢東は何千万人殺したんだ？内政？ｗ内政なら人殺していいってか。
納得がいかないんじゃなくて理解しようとできないだけだろ。アジアの独立国家が如何にして独立したかを見たくない。今ある独立は日本とアジア諸国の努力の賜物だろう？
結果論だけれども。
見たいものしか見ようとしない中華思想の視野狭窄だねえ。しかし俺もとんだ暇人だなｗ
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago 5
レス場所間違えたSry
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago
koukou00002 3 years ago
過去の評価は一面的なことだけでは下せないし「悪」という評価はかつての戦争にはそぐわない。お前は過ちを見ているんじゃなくて決め付けてるだけ。
善悪判断は歴史学がすることではなく勝手な感情。
被害妄想で日本を悪く言うのは的を射ていない。
抽象的？＞具体的に答えてるだろｗ論点をぼかそうとするなよｗ
日本が戦争した→東南アジアの欧米は退却。
日本が戦争した→独立気運を向上させた。
日本が戦争したからこそ欧米によるアジアの植民地支配は終わったんだよ。日本はよくやった。
中国は「現在」でもチベット侵略者。人権皆無。他所様を悪く言う前に自分をよーく見たほうが良い。サヨクもいい加減自らの偽善・欺瞞に気付け。
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago
koukou00002 3 years ago
無条件降伏をした日本が近隣諸国の独立に良くやった？
戦争で勝ったアメリカ、連合国が植民地支配を止めたにすぎないのでではないの？
沖縄も返してもらったし、台湾も英国から解放されたし。
歴史を正しく認識したら？
koukou00002 3 years ago
この文章はSentinelOfNipponさん自分自身に言っているの？
「過去の評価は一面的なことだけでは下せないし「悪」という評価はかつての戦争にはそぐわない。お前は過ちを見ているんじゃなく て 決め付けてるだけ。
善悪判断は歴史学がすることではなく勝手な感情。
被害妄想で日本を悪く言うのは的を射ていない。」
koukou00002 3 years ago
お前の文章引用ばっかだなー。ちゃんと質問には答えろよな？
歴史の流れを見て現在から判断するなら、それぞれの立場があって善悪はつけられないはず。現在の中国人が過去の日本を悪というから、私は過去の虚弱な中国が悪い。と言うだけ。列強から自衛出来なかった反省は自分でしろよ？
時にkoukou00002は日本人かい？見たところ旗は日の丸つけてるみたいだけど。中国人の不特定を対象に書いておいたんだけど？（しかし、西蔵や毛について全くシカトするところフィルタリングされてんのか？ｗ）まあ踏みにじるのが悪いなら、今の中国を言ってくれ。1番歴史に学んで無い国家だろ。
chin-a is inva-der. Fre-e ti-be-t
SentinelOfNippon 3 years ago 2
残念ながら私は生粋の日本人ですよ。
SentinelOfNipponさんの意見とは違うから反論させていただいている。私は君との話の中で戦争において善悪を分けた表現をしたことはないのでもう一度見直してくれ。戦時下においての善悪を言い出したのはSentinelOfNipponさんなんだよ。私は君が「踏みにじられるのが悪」と書いたから「人を踏みにじる行為について悪」と言ったまでですよ。君が過剰反応しただけだろ？
一つ聞くが君が書いた「私は過去の虚弱な中国が悪い。」これは戦争中の中国が悪いと言っているんだよね。君は「過去の評価は一面的なことだけでは下せない、、」と書いているのに矛盾は感じないの？
koukou00002 3 years ago
それともこれは日本人には当てはまって、中国人には当てはまらない考えなのかね。
都合がいいとしか言いようがないね。
koukou00002 3 years ago
You guys should do sth it is just a movie.
watch?v=nKwdoen3Uzo&feature=related
bte0100 3 years ago 6
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助成金の受け取り条件見たら、この監督は
助成金も不正に受け取った事になるね。
demonkogure 3 years ago
助成金が正しく使われているのか、もしそうでなければ返金してもらうようにしてほしい。
税金の無駄使いだね。
koukou00002 3 years ago 3
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映画「靖国 ＹＡＳＵＫＵＮＩ」をめぐって、中国人の李纓（リイン）監督が「自民党国会議員が出演者に圧力をかけた」と
反発している問題で、映画の中心的な登場人物で圧力がかかったと指摘されている県内在住の刀匠の男性（９０）と
その妻（８３）が十日、高知新聞社の取材に応じ、男性は「出演場面と名前を（映画から）切ってほしい」と現在の心境を語った。
夫妻は平成十七年十月に監督側から送られてきた手紙を示し、「映画は（刀作りの）技術的な内容と思っていた」と強調。
監督側に対し、「信用できない」「だまされた」などと強い不信感もにじませた。
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だそうです。色々とボロが出てきましたね。
demonkogure 3 years ago
ytake1024さん，あなた言ったこと確かに事実ですね！私も同じく同感。いまどの国の人でも政治より経済を中心に大事にする感じだね。日本の経済力は厳しいなかでも世界のトップクラスに入ると思いますよ。ただし，国際発言力を追求する前，政治大国なる前に，正義の力を国民に伝えないといけないと思います。ですから，靖国神社問題もそのなかの1つであり，過去の侵略戦争を自衛のために起こしたという言い訳をやめないと世界の信頼を得られないと思います。リアル世界ではあんまりこの辺の話題に触れたくないけど
bte0100 3 years ago 3
bte0100さん一つ質問です。
私は日本人ですが、あなたは日本人ですか？
koukou00002 3 years ago
自分の国籍を語ることができないのは、
1.国に対して他国より引け目を感じる。
2.自分が存在することに対して国に負い目を感じる。
どちらなのかな？
それとも他に考えがあるのかな？
koukou00002 3 years ago
身回りの日本人はほぼいいひとですが，日本人の正直な気持ちはどうでしょうか？ほんとに平和国家作りたいのか？もしくは強い国家意識で再び他国を侵略しようとしているか？靖国神社は決していいところではないと思います。特に「遊就館」の放送はまったくうそです！いまだに戦争は正しいと主張しています。
bte0100 3 years ago 3
現代の日本人にも「強い国家」を求める意識はあると思いますが、それはかつてのような軍事的な意味よりも生活を豊かにする経済力だとか発言力であるとか、そういう意味に変わっているんじゃないかと思います。
厳しい財政状況でここ数年は防衛予算も削減されています。
むしろ最近の経済界では「弱い国家」を求める傾向が強いようにさえ感じます。
歴史観も日本人同士の会話ではテーマになる事はほとんど無いのであまり意識してないんじゃないかな。
少なくとも私の周りでは。
むしろ恋人の話とか、美味しい食べ物の話とか、職場の嫌な上司の話とか。貴方の周りではどうですか？
ytake1024 3 years ago 2
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出演者（刀匠の刈谷直治）が、自分の出たところをカットして放映してくれと言ってます。
中国人の団体による、中国人が作った映画で、とむさんもだまされたとタイトルから自分の名をはずしてくれと言って外してもらったようです。
監督はドキュメンタリーとは自分の意志の入ったものだと言っているようです。
日本に深く潜入している、スパイですね。
こんなの作る前に、天安門事件の映画を作ってみなさい。
kitibu 3 years ago
bte0100 氏のように日本人以外の方もいらっしゃるようですが、日本人の中にも靖国神社に違和感を感じる人もいるんですよ。
この神社は19世紀中頃の日本の内戦の勝者を祀るために作られたので、数ある神社の中でもその歴史は非常に浅く、主君に殉じた負けた側の戦死者は祀られていません。
また基本的に軍人が対象なので空襲や原爆で死んだ一般市民も含まれていません。
平和主義者だった昭和天皇ご自身もこの神社には何がしかの遺憾をお持ちだったとの説もあります。
靖国は日本の文化の一部ですが、現代日本の全てを現すものではないのです。
ただ、少なくとも先の大戦で軍人の親類を亡くされた遺族の方々には心の拠り所でもあるのです。
どこの国でもそういう施設はあるだろうと思います。
できればそっとしておいて頂きたいというのが一般の日本人の意見じゃないかと思います。
日本は戦後、平和国家として生まれ変わり、少しでも世界に貢献したいという思いを持っています。
そうした戦後の新しい日本の姿をもう少し評価して頂けるとうれしいです。
ytake1024 3 years ago 4
その為には戦争を経験し命を絶たれた方を祀り、これから生きていく人たちのための全世界の平和を願う場所が必要なんだよね。
こんな映画を作るより先だと思うよ。
koukou00002 3 years ago
日本人殺すとノーベル平和賞貰えそう
bte0100 3 years ago 8