Keith Olbermann Special Comment on Prop 8

[46desi]

To jigawatt,

Your comments prove once again that bigots have always had trouble with their gag reflexes. I guess that the mrs. will not be worshiping god's "banana" after this evenings prayer.

[1pt21jigawatt]

@46desi It's sad that troglodytes like you have computers.

[mjwatts1983]

This is appropriate for Valentines' Day since today we are celebrating love.

[1pt21jigawatt]

KO is desperately trying to win an emmy to save his piece of crap show. And what better way to do it than tugging at the heart strings of the poor picked on gay community. "This is about the human heart", eeeasy stomach. KO's phony baloney delivery was so transparent that I could hardly see his feigned expressions of deep compassion, or maybe it was due to my throwing up. I need some KOpectate.

[garytcw]

@1pt21jigawatt If you just say "the issue confirm or deny" made you throw up, it is at less unbearable than your ridiculous comment on "the way people put themselves on the position"... Makes you a superficial fool you so blatantly made yourself to be.

And by the way, gay right is absolute human rights, so there is on correct stance of liberty.  And you are mocking people on the way people defend what is absolute, you and the likes of you should fade away as humanity progress.

[1pt21jigawatt]

@garytcw "gay right is absolute human rights"??? "And you are mocking people on the way people defend what is absolute"?? The word "absolute" is over-the-top phraseology. There are very few things in this world that can be coined "absolute" and gay rights is not one of them. I'm all for gays to have the right to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights. BTW Read carefully my overzealous friend. I'm making fun of KO NOT gay rights.

[davidgolding]

I'm not persuaded by his rhetoric, and his argument is fallacious. Just because someone wants something as an expression of love doesn't make what they want a natural right. Now, I'm not disagreeing with anyone on the gay marriage debate, just Olbermann's logic. It's possible one could show love to gays by wishing they not marry: Is a misogynistic, patriarchal, antiquated institution really liberating for the LGBT movement? Or is it possible this perpetuates ways of keeping them disciplined?

[shockinglysublym]

yes it is...mis·rep·re·sent (ms-rpr-znt)

tr.v. mis·rep·re·sent·ed, mis·rep·re·sent·ing, mis·rep·re·sents

1. To give an incorrect or misleading representation of.

2. To serve incorrectly or dishonestly as an official representative of.

[whyshouldiworry]

Keith Olbermann=Epic Win. He's too spot on about this. Thank God SOMEONE has a brain and the ability to understand that those who support Prop 08 are just fucked up. Seriously, those who support Prop 08 pretty much support slavery, racism, and discrimination.

[martidw]

KO is desperately trying to win an Emmy to save his Titanic piece of crap show, and what better way to do this than tugging at the heart strings of the poor picked on gay community. Its about love,  eeeasy stomach!!! KOs delivery of this phony baloney speech was so transparent that I could hardly see his feigned expressions of deep compassion, or maybe that was due to my throwing up. I need some KOpectate.

[mapledelux]

@martidw haha i was thinking the same thing

[jrh2004]

wake up Its the Bible. Being Gay is wrong.

[w00dm4n5000]

the bible contradicts itself.

[OrangeJuece333]

where in the bible does it contradict itself?

[Dasconscripts]

i like the bible i am christian BUT i am more spirtitual as a christian i love gay men i love lesbian woman

ponder that thought for a moment and respond to me

[memacnoca]

sounds like you are Christ like, not Christian- much different. One is heart and one is man made institution- spirit does not have gender either- peace

[Olywurld]

well said Keith. I for one am for the spread of love. with a world filled with hatred and greed, love could save the world. but it starts with one person....you.

[theobamafactor]

Olbermann is an idiot and totally misprepresented what this was all about.

It was also a well rehearsed piece, made to "appear" authentic." What a joke he is. How can anyone take him seriously?

[winick88]

Hey, moron! This is the second comment in which you have used the word "misprepresented."

Guess what? "Misprepresented" isn't a fucking word, you ignorant cocksucker.

[futureshocker]

Keith is the best!

[pyrogamer]

A rotted out brain can't be changed, only gutted out to prevent the mold from spreading.

If you supported Prop 8, there is something wrong with you on the deepest level.

[xav17r]

you're a good man Kieth

[Illuminateur]

"Yeah if you and Olbermann knew your bible you would know the context of that saying. Do unto others as you have others do unto you. True if its something good and upright and holy. Unfortunately same sex marriage is not good according to the bible, so tough shit! He did it to himself by bringing up religion."

^Uh, not a theocracy... Buddhist Lesbians are sanctionable?

[personwastingtime]

Americans make such good comedians! So Jesus, a man who hung out with 12 men and his mom, and never married, and yet wasn't gay, agrees with hatred. Haha! What makes bible-thumpers and comedians?

[kaizer250]

All I can say is that homosexuals are people, just as we are people, and they deserve just as much happiness from existence as we ourselves can glean, regardless of what a book written thousands of years ago may say.

[hitlersuckz]

I had some respect for this guy but not now. What an idiot! He was going pretty good until he brought up religion. Then I remembered that in the beginning was Adam and Eve. NOT Adam n Bob you silly bastard!

[veggiechickgmail]

You are an asshole

[MikeyPNJ]

Keith, you are once again THE MAN!

Keep up the good work!

[russcarljohnson]

Just once i would like to hear this man say something that didn't make me want to strangle him.

[sparbeque]

It's not a vote on the definition of marriage, it's a vote to limit rights of a specific group of people. Like the rights of African-Americans were limited up until 1967. He didn't say anything about a bus. The state doesn't marry people, the state gives civil unions. Churches marry people. If your church doesn't want to marry homosexuals it doesn't have to.

[trikskee]

Gay couples have all the same rights in CA as straight couples do. Heck take away the states right to marry and have them all be "civil unions". Leave marriage in the religious institutions where it started. Everyone happy?

[justmee2007]

This cituation is one in witch in order to acept homosexuality, you have to tear the other side's belife, make their religion illegal and persecute them, so its a tray cituation, one side or the other. If youre a true christian and belive the bible, how do you go around the following text;

Romans 1:26-27: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another.

[jwlp07]

completely awesome!!! i feel the same way!!!!

[prekolna]

Thank you.

[narrowfeather]

Well said Keith! Right to the heart of it.

[adedoune]

humans should be alowed to celebrate their love without being illegal. love shouldnt be illegal between two humains.

[trikskee]

Uh, it isn't

[PEDROCR2000]

have you guys ever met the guy who regrets his marriage because he kind of feels like a financial slave to his wife? laws are in favor towards woman. who gets alimony if the gays split up? I Know a bunch of stright guys who don't want to get married, or have been divorced, and will never marry again. ther eis definatly a marriage strike going on with single stright males. Yes, its a whole other issue but, who cares really if people want to get married. over 60% end up in divorce. why bother?

[DancinTwin04]

I love this man....he hits all the points and says it so well with so much emotion. I'm straight, and I'm Catholic (sorta....being there are several things I don't agree with in religion) and I've been fighting along side everyone else who supports equality, acceptance, and above all LOVE. What are people so afraid of? I promise this fight is NOT over in CA, or anywhere else where discrimination is still prevalent. we're not all ignorant

[trikskee]

So you're a Christian who believes homosexuality is not a sin? What other text in the bible do you disregard?

[shenmueryu]

The man got really really emotional on this one I had to turn it off lol but man come on...people are comparing sexual preference to race...with race one culture thinks the other is inhuman and that is a period. It's not the same thing or even close to it in terms of rights especially back in the past. Black folk couldnt marry or vote yea but they also couldnt ride public busses, eat at public places, own land, drink from the fuckin water fountains what have you

[soyallergy]

Blacks were also beaten up. Gays are being beaten up and assaulted. Even if you don't think race and sexual preference or on the same level, discrimination against gays exist. Even if you don't "agree" with homosexuality, what gives anyone the right to assault anybody? To take away their rights?

[InvestigatorDave]

Prop 8 was not about legalizing the assault of gays. Your comment is a complete red herring. It said that CA would not recognize nor perform gay marriages. The gays' rights were not "taken away", the "right" had not been granted and codified in the state constitution.

[originalityisdead18]

You're correct. The right had never been granted. So does that make it okay to put an opportunity like gay marriage in front of them, only to take it away with the excuse that, "Oh well...we never shook on it." If we're going by that immature standard, I think I'll say, "No tradebacks!" And then go tell California's mommy.

[InvestigatorDave]

It is all about being legal or not legal. This "opportunity" was not placed before them with the backing of any legality. It therefore was an opportunity that really did not exist. BTW, hand shakes and verbal contracts are binding, but in this case, it was still being sorted out in the legal realm, and probably should have had a moratorium while being decided. But, that's not the way the state gov't went, so it had to go to referendum. It will be law soon, and then no more confusion.

[trikskee]

WOW!!!! When was the last time a gay man was forced to sit at the back of a bus? Or use a different drinking fountain? This isn't a civil rights movement. It's a vote on the definition of marriage.

[itbendstowardjustice]

For 'back of the bus' consider hospital visitation rights; for 'separate drinking fountain' consider that gay employees everywhere contribute to their coworkers' heterosexual spousal health insurance benefits, but are denied joint coverage for their partners. The word marriage is important, and confers legal rights and responsibilities. There are about 1,300 rights and duties that married people have that otherwise-defined partnerships do not have.

[trikskee]

Those 1,300 rights are Federal and CA can't change those. Under state laws it is a wash.

[itbendstowardjustice]

And we are citizens, people with 14th Amendment rights to equal protection under the law. For fifty years this nation has realized that separate is inherently not equal. There is a separation of church and state for a reason - so my religion cannot limit your civil rights. And as to religion, God made me, God loves me and God is love. That I want to marry my sweetie and make a strong family only benefits our community; that's what families do.

[trikskee]

God is love. But you are choosing your will over His. God loves you no matter what, but you are literally choosing to not listen to Him when it comes to this.

[itbendstowardjustice]

1. I agree. We need to achieve Federal equality and realize that any attempt to legalize discrimination at a state level is unconstitutional. It's the long arc.

2. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

[trikskee]

1. I do not disagree that the state and country should provide all the same benefits that it provides straight couples.

2. See 1.

[hitlersuckz]

Yeah if you and Olbermann knew your bible you would know the context of that saying. Do unto others as you have others do unto you. True if its something good and upright and holy. Unfortunately same sex marriage is not good according to the bible, so tough shit! He did it to himself by bringing up religion.

[veggiechickgmail]

oh, sorry, didnt see in the Bible about Adam and Bob??? I guess we all need to go to church... You are a moron and you shouldn't be allowed to speak... EVER

[kliefy]

shenmueryu: C'mon now... Discrimination is discrimination. What if we took away the right for women to vote? The significant point here is that we've set a precedent of changing the constitution to eliminate rights that have already been established to a group of people.

[InvestigatorDave]

But the rights were not legally established, which permitted the proposition that would put the entire state's voting population on notice to either codify it with the referendum or not. It lost. It's not in the CA constitution.

[kliefy]

But the equal protection clause in the constitution did and the Supreme Court determined that Prop 22 violated that clause. Prop 8 is an attempt to change what equal protection is. Let's go back to "that all depends on what the definition of 'is' is."

[InvestigatorDave]

I believe you are referring to the CA Supreme Court, not the US Supreme Court. And this proposition was written in such a way that the "violation" the judge saw would be eliminated. Now, this may still need to be decided in the courts, but it does seem that this referendum's results, voted on by the voters in CA (not to mention FL, OR, and every other state that had similar measures on the ballot) is the will of the people and the law now.

[mattmao]

Well, your religion is also a choice. So how would you feel if they decided that all Christians couldn't get married? And your comments alone show that you don't think of gays as human, or would would be just as upset as the rest of us about this vote. The Constitution protects all of us and our rights, not just the rights of the people you agree with.

[arkham1965]

down with Sodomy!

Up with Polygamy!

Go BYU!

[mattmao]

Wait, so your gay and want to fuck the fags? When are you getting married?

[originalityisdead18]

Seeing as you're probably a sixty year old man feeling himself up in his dirty trailer while watching child porn and eating a mixture of twinkies and bud light, I think I'm going to have to pass on that offer, thanks.

[MrMcMusic01]

If only all straight people saw it this way. It is about the "human heart." Loving Keith Olbermann yet again.

[HomoGeneyes]

"At a fundamental level, the Utah Mormons crossed the line on this one," said gay rights activist John Aravosis, an influential Washington, D.C-based blogger. "They just took marriage away from 20,000 couples and made their children bastards. You don't do that and get away with it. - John the STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS Aravosis.

[HomoGeneyes]

THE GAYS HAVE MORE MEN of their own.

WELCOME TO MORMON WATCH!