I think you have some very good points here, I don't even consider myself a "splitist" and you still come off very convincing. But if I could say anything, I think some of your evidence might be more or less pointless. Among other things, stating that Raru could not pose for an artist. I see where you're going with that, but if that was a main point in your evidence, it could easily be countered.
@eventyraren You right of course, I didn't mention it however because Zelda doesn't actually appear during the time the game is taking place. I should have clarified that however.
Hey just watched all three of your videos and so far its good and youre quite entertaining but Tingle is not a problem. In Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland and Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love we see that Tingle is not a person but an entity which is created if certain conditions are met and so these are more likely different people who have been transformed into Tingle's over the years meaning he can be anywhere on the timeline
@ECHOES2131 the connection is a story that doesnt mean the backstory of the two tingle games are wrong it just means they may know of each other and this tingle became particularly famous and as far as I know Tingle didnt remember you when you first met him in the cell.
@ECHOES2131 calling him mr. fairy is hardly a case for rubbishing an idea as maybe more people than tingle think link looks like a fairy plus he cant exactly recognise him because its a different link and mm tingle was in a parallel world. Also what problem does jabun pose because jabu jabu didnt die and who knows how ong he lives for, also it may not even be the same thing just the same species
@ECHOES2131 im not saying there arent problems but (if ms stands for master sword then) im not sure what you mean cos the ms is not in mm and if you mean both timelines (child and adult) then again of course it does because it existed before the split
@Mr100PercentGamer ok, well, sorry then, what i try to argue is that at the end of OoT when links travels in time to his childhood(or the child time period), takes with him the Master Sword.
Same we use in ww at the Adult time period.
and the sames happens with the triforce.
DON'T TRUST AONUMA OR MIYAMOTO DUDE I MEAN IT DON'T EVER TRUST THEIR STATEMENTS.
Either MM is unrelated to OoT or MM-Link is OoT-Link. If MM Link is OoT Link, MM seems to contradict the split timeline because its opening says that he saved Hyrule and went away from Hyrule to look for an irreplaceable friend(possibly Navi). If he is not OoT Link, MM is not a sequel to any game released recently.
Anyone can become a Tingle apparently, so Tingle doesn't matter. Besides, Tingle is in other games(i.e. MC), so if he did matter, MC would be sequel to MM.
@handheldgamer144 First, who the damn gives about Tinge anywayz he can stay in his rupee weird game lol. Well the young Link has the memory of saving hyrule therefore its highly possible that it is the MM Link so I see no contractitions there. Then he lost his fairy Navi because he never got it when he was send back in the past because ganon plans failed and therefore no need to save hyrule and he wants to find it (I really do not know why...). So I really don't understand the problems there...
@FangOverlord The intro says that a LEGEND says that he saved Hyrule.
first line: "In the land of Hyrule, there echoes a legend."
later:"A boy who, after battling evil and saving Hyrule, crept away from the land that made him a legend..."
If there is a legend that he saved Hyrule, and that legend is OoT, then OoT MUST have happened fully in the past of Hyrule, but according to the split theory, Link went back to his childhood when he definitely only saved Hyrule as an adult.
@handheldgamer144 Btw for Tingle, there can be more than one tingle... because we see him in four swords, majoras mask, Wind Waker and others which would make either Tingle immortal or screw up every possible timeline. So for Tingle my gues is that there is more than one weird guy named tingle (like the Links and Zeldas) or he is simply immortal.
@FangOverlord I would suggest you consider that when thinking about Ganon(dorf)'s roll. Could there be several Ganondorfs, like there are several Links, Zeldas, etc.? If so, Ocarinahero's reason for no split is a failure.
@handheldgamer144 The idea of many Ganondorfs is very questionable for the fact that nearly all the time you fight him he has the Triforce of Power or the whole Triforce making him immortal. Therefore, it is more than likely that there is just one Ganondorf (not counting the Ganondorfs in different timelines). Also even if it's more than unlikely that there are several Ganons (pig form) there's a chance that there is more than one, however there is only one Ganondorf (human form) with no doubt.
In fact there is absolutely no doupt that Majora's Mask comes after OOT Young Link because at the end of the game the skull kid tells Link that he smells like the kid who thought him the song back in the lost woods. Therefore he is the same skull kid that was in the lost woods in OOT.
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great job here. i have my disagreements, but you did a great job.
awesomeianTV 5 months ago
great job here. i have my disagreements, but you did a great job.
awesomeianTV 5 months ago
Tingle happened twice...I was wondering how he could appear in the 2 different timelines as well. But for tingle to happen twice...God help us all.
NarutoUzumaki0095 8 months ago
Zelda appears in a flashback in MM
SS2GohanisBomb1 1 year ago
I think you have some very good points here, I don't even consider myself a "splitist" and you still come off very convincing. But if I could say anything, I think some of your evidence might be more or less pointless. Among other things, stating that Raru could not pose for an artist. I see where you're going with that, but if that was a main point in your evidence, it could easily be countered.
Other than that, great work.
PhantomBPR 1 year ago
if I rember right tingle has brothers in wind waker, or were they followers?
1beatcher 1 year ago
just one word,
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
@ECHOES2131 tingle
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
when are you planing on get part 4 up?
eventyraren 1 year ago
@eventyraren Due to rendering issues it is being delayed, I'm working on it presently and hope to have it up by the end of the day.
mafuletrekkie 1 year ago
zelda DO apere in MM in a flashback.
eventyraren 1 year ago
@eventyraren You right of course, I didn't mention it however because Zelda doesn't actually appear during the time the game is taking place. I should have clarified that however.
mafuletrekkie 1 year ago
Hey just watched all three of your videos and so far its good and youre quite entertaining but Tingle is not a problem. In Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland and Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love we see that Tingle is not a person but an entity which is created if certain conditions are met and so these are more likely different people who have been transformed into Tingle's over the years meaning he can be anywhere on the timeline
Mr100PercentGamer 1 year ago
@Mr100PercentGamer not if you play the legend of the green fairy on WW.
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
@ECHOES2131 how does the legend of the green fairy contradict anything I said in my post?
Mr100PercentGamer 1 year ago
@Mr100PercentGamer there is a connection between the Majoras tingle and the in wind waker one.
also in wind waker when you find tingle he recognizes you.
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
@ECHOES2131 the connection is a story that doesnt mean the backstory of the two tingle games are wrong it just means they may know of each other and this tingle became particularly famous and as far as I know Tingle didnt remember you when you first met him in the cell.
Mr100PercentGamer 1 year ago
@Mr100PercentGamer calls you mr fairy just like the mm tingle.
and there are deeper problems that tingle, lord jabu jabu appears as jabun in ww.
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
@ECHOES2131 calling him mr. fairy is hardly a case for rubbishing an idea as maybe more people than tingle think link looks like a fairy plus he cant exactly recognise him because its a different link and mm tingle was in a parallel world. Also what problem does jabun pose because jabu jabu didnt die and who knows how ong he lives for, also it may not even be the same thing just the same species
Mr100PercentGamer 1 year ago
@Mr100PercentGamer what about the ms apearing in both dimesions.
told u there are lots of problems.
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
@ECHOES2131 im not saying there arent problems but (if ms stands for master sword then) im not sure what you mean cos the ms is not in mm and if you mean both timelines (child and adult) then again of course it does because it existed before the split
Mr100PercentGamer 1 year ago
@Mr100PercentGamer ok, well, sorry then, what i try to argue is that at the end of OoT when links travels in time to his childhood(or the child time period), takes with him the Master Sword.
Same we use in ww at the Adult time period.
and the sames happens with the triforce.
DON'T TRUST AONUMA OR MIYAMOTO DUDE I MEAN IT DON'T EVER TRUST THEIR STATEMENTS.
ECHOES2131 1 year ago
@ECHOES2131 i wouldnt say never trust them i would just say dont completely believe them always
Mr100PercentGamer 1 year ago
Either MM is unrelated to OoT or MM-Link is OoT-Link. If MM Link is OoT Link, MM seems to contradict the split timeline because its opening says that he saved Hyrule and went away from Hyrule to look for an irreplaceable friend(possibly Navi). If he is not OoT Link, MM is not a sequel to any game released recently.
Anyone can become a Tingle apparently, so Tingle doesn't matter. Besides, Tingle is in other games(i.e. MC), so if he did matter, MC would be sequel to MM.
handheldgamer144 1 year ago
@handheldgamer144 First, who the damn gives about Tinge anywayz he can stay in his rupee weird game lol. Well the young Link has the memory of saving hyrule therefore its highly possible that it is the MM Link so I see no contractitions there. Then he lost his fairy Navi because he never got it when he was send back in the past because ganon plans failed and therefore no need to save hyrule and he wants to find it (I really do not know why...). So I really don't understand the problems there...
FangOverlord 1 year ago
@FangOverlord The intro says that a LEGEND says that he saved Hyrule.
first line: "In the land of Hyrule, there echoes a legend."
later:"A boy who, after battling evil and saving Hyrule, crept away from the land that made him a legend..."
If there is a legend that he saved Hyrule, and that legend is OoT, then OoT MUST have happened fully in the past of Hyrule, but according to the split theory, Link went back to his childhood when he definitely only saved Hyrule as an adult.
handheldgamer144 1 year ago
@handheldgamer144 Btw for Tingle, there can be more than one tingle... because we see him in four swords, majoras mask, Wind Waker and others which would make either Tingle immortal or screw up every possible timeline. So for Tingle my gues is that there is more than one weird guy named tingle (like the Links and Zeldas) or he is simply immortal.
FangOverlord 1 year ago
@FangOverlord I would suggest you consider that when thinking about Ganon(dorf)'s roll. Could there be several Ganondorfs, like there are several Links, Zeldas, etc.? If so, Ocarinahero's reason for no split is a failure.
handheldgamer144 1 year ago
@handheldgamer144 The idea of many Ganondorfs is very questionable for the fact that nearly all the time you fight him he has the Triforce of Power or the whole Triforce making him immortal. Therefore, it is more than likely that there is just one Ganondorf (not counting the Ganondorfs in different timelines). Also even if it's more than unlikely that there are several Ganons (pig form) there's a chance that there is more than one, however there is only one Ganondorf (human form) with no doubt.
FangOverlord 1 year ago
In fact there is absolutely no doupt that Majora's Mask comes after OOT Young Link because at the end of the game the skull kid tells Link that he smells like the kid who thought him the song back in the lost woods. Therefore he is the same skull kid that was in the lost woods in OOT.
FangOverlord 1 year ago
... or MM is not a sequel to any game released so far.
handheldgamer144 1 year ago