Q, Do you favor that AUZ, NZ, EU refused the Danish(Greenland) quota proposal at the recent IWC 61th assembly?
The Greenland's request, 10 humpback a year, had been certified as "NO" harm to the population of humpback off west Greenland by IWC's scientific Committee.
Lethal research didn't help provide any of the spurious findings and the extremely low amount of scientific reports are of a laughably low quality - Japan is not whaling to collect research - it is collecting food.
Q1, Do you favor that AUZ voted down the Danish(Greenland) proposal, its quota(10 humpback a year) had been verified as "NO" influence on humpback specie by IWC's scientific Committee, at the IWC 60th assembly?
Q2, After all, Would you require a ban on any whaling on the earth whether or not its population is increasing and abundant for hunting, as one of marine resources, under the scientific-managed quota system?
It isn't just about 10 whales as you should well realise. It is about opening the flood gates to commercial whaling for ANY country and humpbacks are just hundreds away from being back on the endangered list.
This is irresponsible marine management to the extreme.
Q1, Are you opposed to the recommendation of IWC's scientific Committee? It says the Greenland's coastal humpback is increasing and would never be affected by 10 hunting quota a year.
Q2, I'm afraid about Auz would against hunting Humpbacks joyfully even if your water is occupied with billions of Humpbacks and being unable to sail out to sea. right?
lol It's a familiar response, turning its eye blind to an inconvenient fact and evading the question.
You would never agree to hunt humpback whatever IWC's scientific Committee says, the seven seas are filled with billions of Humpbacks since whale is not a marine resource to be managed, hunt, eaten in your mind.
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It is all going to be rather funny when one of these Japanese whale poaching fleets gets sunk.
oh teh drama!!!1
Seriously though, Japan is provoking Australia for no good reason. Instead japan should be courting Australia. Its called diplomacy and as it stands Japan is pushing Australia into Chinas' arms.
Worst foreign policy ever but then thats what happens when you let fisheries agency run your whole country!
Thanks a lot comments. You seems have a bit knowledge with this issue.
Q1, Do you favor that AUZ voted down the Danish(Greenland) proposal, its quota(10 humpback a year) had been verified as "NO" influence on humpback specie by IWC's scientific Committee, at the IWC 60th assembly?
Q2, After all, Would you require a ban on any whaling on the earth whether or not its population is increasing and abundant for hunting, as one of marine resources, under the scientific-managed quota system?
The fanaticism of defenders of eco-terrorism, determined to continue with a program of vigilantism and high seas piracy, is probably the consequence of a bizarre, unrealistic, quasi-religous political programme which advocates zero-tolerance for whale hunting of any shape and form. For these fanatics refuse to accept the reality that the scale of the hunt, even with allowances made for aboriginal groups and scientific whaling, is a tiny blip compared to 50-60 years ago.
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That is not the point.
Here again you skirt and avoid the issue, trying to duck and weave and distract around a single over-riding fact.
There is a moratorium on Whaling.
The IWC itself that specifies the conditions of the moratorium states that whaling in the Ocean sanctuary is forbidden. International conservation law also says it's forbidden.
Japanese whale poachers break those international laws and stipulations.
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Who cares the scale of the hunt. it doesn't matter if it's only two whales in the ocean sanctuary. It is still illegal.
Your devious argument follows the form of "But we only want to steal a few objects from the property, they were seriously burgled before so if we only steal and thieve a few items that's OK"
It doesn't matter how you try to defend breaking the law by pointing the finger at whaling in the past. It is still illegal to poach any whales for any reason in the sanctuary.
It's troubling that supporters of PETA-Shepherd defend the very dangerous high-speed maneouvers of ecoterrorists which imperil their own lives as well as those of others. Such fanatical partisanship extends to defending other acts of terrorism, such as the various substances and projectiles hurled on the decks of whaling vessels, imperiling the safety of the captain and crew. A youtube board is not really the place for such defense, but rather the criminal courts trying the terrorists.
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It is troubling that defenders of illegal and criminal poachers defend the dangerous ramming of other ships. Ramming that independant international shipping bodies have stated clearly was deliberately initiated by Japanese whaling vessels.
It is obvious that you will continue to make false assertions when the facts are clear and contradict your statements.
You fanatically support illegal poachers and their dangerous, potentially murderous ramming of NGO vessels.
Defenders of eco-terrorism have a political bedfellow in the government of Australia, which explains why they are now willing to avoid criticism of Australia's historical and current environmental record. Oz's declaration of her territorial waters extending to the Antarctic, is not a form of redressing this reality at all, and one wonders what kind of fanaticism could inspire such delusion.
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I have not avoided criticism of Oz's environmental record. I clearly stated attempts to redress mistakes are underway.
You again misrepresent.
Numerous species have been driven to extinction in the ancient past and recent past such as the Thylacine. The Tas devil is presently under threat and crocs were driven to low numbers
Effective conservationists such as Steve Irwin made great contributions to wildlife preservation.
I'm sure in your sad mind persons such as Steve Irwin are "ecoterrorists"
Right, that must be someone's sense of being ironic, polluting a youtube board by spamming posts again and again, and in the name of protecting the environment, no less.
Such childish behaviour, topped with an absurdly heavy veneer of self-righteousness, does not serve the so-called "ecoterrorist" movement well, rather it simply reinforces the view that such political programs attract, and are supported by, fanatics.
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I only replied to your voluminous posts in appoximately equal number . You wrote a similar number of posts. If someone disagrees and points out your deceptive misinformation then obviously that is spamming right? If you write an equal number of ridiculous and pompous posts that cannot possibly be interpreted as spam can it.
Shepherd-PETA, if not outright endorsing terrorism, makes it very clear that the organisation endorses vigilantism, the legal staus of which vis-a-vis terrorism is left to criminal lawyers to sort out.
Vigilantism, terrorism, sea piracy, it really amounts to much the same thing under existing international conventions, and a failure to enforce these laws for political reasons, threatens to play a disproportionate role in scuttling existing international laws and institutions.
There is some profoundly unscientific logic being attempted to justify Commercial whaling. Blame whales for the disruption of ocean ecosystems. Attempt to convince the public that culling whales is the way to make the oceans healthy.
I'm sorry but the oceanic ecosystems have survived perfectly healthy for millions of years without human "management".
To suggest otherwise is devious and ingenuous.
Oceans do not require hunting by humans and never have so for millions of years. Not now either.
Another thing which these whaling threads confirm is the active presence of the PETA-Shepherd lobby on youtube. Comments on this video were dormant for some time before I posted a few words. Suddenly, it was kick started into life, not so much by myself, but by the PETA-Shepherd supporters.
This suggests to me that PETA-Shepherd sympathisers/supporters/employees are monitoring youtube 24/7. That's scary, especially as they are incapable of piecing together a single coherent argument.
As for Sea Shepherd, Eco-Terrorists, Japan's National Police Agencyan already issued an arrest warrant for the three men: Daniel Bebawi from Nottingham, the UK, and AmericansJon Batchelor and Ralph Koo.
At the same time, the Japan authoritiy also requested ICPO to place these men on "wanted" list as "red notice" level, which would notify the authorities in UK and US.
Though the resolution which calls for inter-government cooperation for the safaty on sea was endorsed at the previous IWC meeing, UK and US seems have not take any action about these indictees.
If this stalled situation, look like a tacit sabotage of anti-whaling countries, is going on, reluctantly Japan would have no other choice to take a harder action to protect whaling fleets from terrorist's attack in the future reserch whaling.
Given that Japan is an ally of both those countries in something called a "war on terrorism", one would think the Japanese government should have no trouble securing arrests - except that Japan's "allies" have very self serving definitions of what does and doesn't constitute terrorism. We've seen this in ex-Yugoslavia many times, but so has Japan, with Washington's recent rapproachment with North Korea just one of many examples.
Perhaps they could take harder action against the carelessness of their own mercenary staff and lax maintenance and unsafe practices which resulted in deaths of japanese crew members.
As much as you may bleat about safety at sea, Lloyds shipping has stated categorically that Japanese vessels have rammed protest vessels, not the other way around.
Loss of human life at sea has been due to Japanese incompetence and stupidity.
Massive loss of sentient life has been caused by greed and callousness.
I've seen several documentaries on the tactics of Shepherd-PETA. Basically, we're talking about the navigation of various vessels to intimidate and provoke incidents, violating an entire series of maritime laws in the process.
And yet lloyds shipping have stated quite clearly that it is the Japanese vessels that have deliberately caused all incidents of ramming in the southern ocean whilst conducting illegal whale poaching. These are common criminal poachers hunting for profit. The IWC has demanded that no lethal whaling be conducted in the Ocean Sanctuary, a sanctuary that the IWC recognises and that all signatories by signatory convention must recognise.
Japanese vessels unquestionably commit acts of terrorism
Japan again threatens to take violent action when it doesn't get it's own way against the wishes of a majority, like a petulant child.
Japan's whaling breaches the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the Antarctic Treaty System and the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) and the International Convention on the Regulation of Whaling. Three separate panels of independent, international legal experts agree Japans whaling is not just cruel, its criminal.
Nope, sorry, you're just dancing and dancing and getting nowhere, all because you're unwilling to cope with basic facts, which prove that the tactics of Shepherd-PETA to impose an environment of terror in order to achieve their objectives.
No, you're dancing naked distorting & ignoring facts.
By ramming vessels , detonating explosive bombs inside living creatures, launching stun grenades against independent film crews and NGO protesters upholding international conservation law, by using hidden marksmen, by bringing armed military personnel aboard in defiance of the Antarctic treaty, Japan with no concern for international opinion , law or morality is imposing an environment of terror to achieve its commercial whaling objectives.
Your definition of terrorist is very weak. Any self-proclaimed "freedom fighter" would also claim the same definition.
These terrorists to whom you refer are guilty by their own admission of endangering their own lives as well as those of others, and that their actions can be interpreted as violence. A warped view of environmental responsibility apologises for throwing acid at workers who are conducting a fishing operation that is allowed for by an international process.
You use the discredited and misleading "acid attack" assertion.
This is typical deceit and an attempt to misrepresent and is entirely to be expected from apologists for criminals such as yourself.
Orange juice and salad dressing also contain acid and their ph is virtually identical to that of rancid butter thrown for its smellyness, not its acidity.
I'm sure you scream "terrorist acid attack" when served acidic salad dressing at a restaurant.
Your definition of a terrorist is obviously weaker and fails to even recognise the distinction that NGO's upholding and enforcing international conservation law against criminal corporations breaking those laws and in the process saving lives. The only organisation that has killed humans is the japanese whaling fleet. The only organisation dedicated to killing sentient lifefor profit is the commercial whaling company.
The Australian Federal court order still stands and the whaling company has had notice served officially, stating categorically that Japan may not conduct lethal commercial whaling of any kind in the internationally recognised Southern Ocean sanctuary. Anyone who does so is a criminal.
The law is unquestionably clear. Japanese whalers in the southern Ocean sanctuary are criminals and must be arrested and jailed
Well there you go. If every country's highest court claimed to be competent to ajudicate international law we would have another global conflict, quick. In the real world, however, only those confident of their military power or alliances seek to do so. And so, Oz through such declarations and others, strongly indicates her aspirations as an imperial power.
It is simple mathematics. Sea Shepherd and Greenpeace have tens of millions of supporters all over the world and a percentage watch youtube. Whole nations are disgusted by the deviousness and dishonesty of commercial whaling operations masquerading as Scientific research
Bushmeat traders hunting mountain gorillas at least do not have the gall to pretend they are conducting scientific research but commercial whalers seriously expect the rest of the world to believe their charade.
If these groups have 10s of millions of supporters as you claim, I very much doubt you would feel hard pressed to dominate this board with a flood of postings, which are just a rehash of the same posts you made elsewhere.
Also, I doubt that Shepherd-PETA, if they were as popular as you suggest would see its interests in an alliance with an imperial state such as Australia which has been responsible for so much environmental destruction in its short history.
Australia has been responsible for environmental destruction in the past. It presently seeks to redress those mistakes.
Your twisted logic suggests that if someone made a mistake in the past that gives a free rein for other nations to cause whatever mahem they like in the present.
As someone who works in the field of marine science documentary I am perfectly entitled to write whatever I like on youtube regardless of how many other people also agree with me. A rehash of factual comments I have stated elsewhere are still valid. Just because I state the truth more than once doesn't mean that that truth is any less true
Your objection to a flood of factual posts by me implies you think a quantity of factual statements is less valid than your smaller number of deceitful ones
Admittedly, I held off commenting on all of the videos relating to the whaling crisis for a long time for the reason that supporters of PETA-Shepherd will waste space on these threads with muckraking and general namecalling. It was all too easy to predict any Serb questioning the terrorism of PETA-Shepherd would be confronted with a regurgitation of antiSerb propaganda completely unrelated to the issue at hand, and that such a response would come in a matter of minutes. Just too easy.
AntiSerb bigot ZildjianHanser3245 succumbed to the temptation of linking whale hunting with extreme antiSerb propaganda.
This is interesting, as in some respects, there is a parallel.
Protection of whales which would otherwise be left at the hands of "cruel Japanese whalers" is Australia's propaganda for advancing a claim to the territory and waters of the South Pole, much as the US used false claims of protecting Albanians to build military bases on Serb lands.
Note that the PRO WHALER users named seseljsrs + yugopixy are now discussing and promoting SERBIA. Remember, the country you see them now promoting, Serbia, is who conducted racial & ethnic cleansing. Acts of genocide against people. That's the place where the mass-muderer named Milosevic was convicted of War Crimes for killing people. The same people who promote PRO WHALING are the same people who enjoy racism, ethnic purging, white supremacy and killing people. Whalers
ZildjianHanser3245, if I borrowed your tactics I would be saying something like, "ANTI WHALERS support Hitler" - but I haven't done so.
President Milosevic was never convicted of anything, learn to read before abusing your computer like some 3rd world migrant living in Austria.
Again, show me the proof that many of the countries against Japanese research whaling are not also guilty of those things you charge Serbs with: "racism, ethnic purging, white supremacy and killing people" (sic).
Of course, for the anti-whale lobby, there is no hypocrisy in the terrorism of PETA-Shepherd, nor in its alliance with Australia, a colonial nation which has exterminated dozens of species as a direct consequence of taking over aboriginal lands. It's interesting that few in Australia see any contradiction in control of shark populations (in the cruelest manner possible), and denouncing whale hunting as "extermination" etc.
It's revealing PETA-Shepherd enjoys support in other colonies like Oz.
Is the anti-whale lobby an extension of PETA terrorism, which has had the good fortune to enjoy an alliance with Australian imperialists wanting to claim the South Pole? Recent events suggest this is the case.
Appeals to the "good people" of Japan, apparently do not take into account the many (good) people who oppose terrorism of fishermen at the hands of PETA-Shepherd.
And that underhanded praise of Japanese high-tech from the headline boy is so deeply mired in the most odious irony.
It is not related to whaling, are you a supporter of SRP? I red the news that serbian parliament ratified SAA and Tomislav Nikolic resigned, which aroused me mixed feeling...
I hope that the serbial resolution, seeking an advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on the legality of the unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo-Metohija, will be endorsed by majority at the incoming UN Generall assembly.
Serbia's ratification of the SAA was a good thing only in that it neutralised antiSerb EU from objecting to the ensuing ratification of the agreement with Russia and Gazprom. Meanwhile, the reality remains that antiSerb EU will continue to demand more pounds of flesh at its Kangaroo Court, but also recognition of Kosovo (Greater Albania), and the unity of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia. So, you see SAA ratification really doesn't change much, and EU has made it clear an appeal to ICJ is a no-no.
"Japan is wrong to blame whales and other marine mammals for reducing fish stocks."
-Study Results confirmed by the BC University Scientific Fisheries Research Division
"Whales-eat-fish theory debunked: researchers"
-Morning Herald
"There is no widely accepted body of scientific evidence supporting the premise that culling whales would aid in the recovery of commercial fisheries"
Anyone can present an argument claiming there is "no compelling evidence fish stocks are adversely affected by whale populations", but it's another thing altogether to fund a study providing evidence to confirm as much. Meanwhile no one with an ounce of common sense is going to believe more whales i.e. whales which feed on specific forms of marine life doesn't mean less fish stocks. Blaming man for the decline of fish stocks is a valid point, but this doesn't get other predators off.
This looks like something a 4th grader had done for a very poor grade in a science fair project. What Idiot with the mercury damaged brain has come up with this crap?
Marine eco system is too complex to slove rather than estimating the polulation of mike whale.
It seems that the theory, whales is one of the causes for declining fish stocks, is now ongoing hypothesis and furthermore scientific reserch may be needed.
However, it is beyond dispute that the polulation of mike whale is an abundant for sustainable use within the harmless quota.
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Very good video, outlining some of the data collected by Japanese researchers.
What's revealing, however, is that insensitivity towards Japan's opinion on the threat swelling whale populations represent to stocks of cod and other fish is not just limited to an organised anti-whaling lobby. Governments of several countries, which are supposedly Japan's "allies" in a "war on terrorism" (!) support the piracy of extremists, as well as demonstrations of racist bigotry and Japanophobia.
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It good to see that JARPA keep correcting the scientific informations. As long as Japan stays with the scientific facts, only the dirty acts by anti-whaling countries will be recorded in history. Japan will bring JUSTICE to the LIES of Anti-Whaling Countries.
I have been disappointed that I'd never heared the opinion about the Danish(Greenland) proposal which was voted down by EU,AUZ,NZ though its quota(10 humpback a year) is verified as harmless to humpback polulation by IWC's scientific Committe at the previous IWC 60th meeting, except KujiraClub-san.
After all, Would Anti-whaling group oppose to all whaling without exception whether the targeted whale is proved scientifically to be abundant and suitable for sustainable use or not?
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Well, the anti-whaling groups don't have brain to think. That's why they don't have any answer to your question, and therefore, there is no valid arguments with the anti-whaling groups. It is just a cult.
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Sooo, have you brain?? I don't think so. Maybe an A-bomb will change your opinion. After an A-bomb the number of Japanese will increase too like the whales.
This dumb thing is all you got? This is Junk science. Minus the word science.
This presentation is UNPROFESSIONAL. It looks like a child did it!
It has no meaningful data all it does is try to justify killing. With all bogus reasons.
= A whale calf could be tagged near birth with a harmless tag with date of birth & later observed to measure age! So it is a complete scam claiming the *only* way is to kill it!
Japan, the country of tech, has whalers so stupid they embarass a nation.
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vaevictisIV
I just saw your profile. It seems you LOVE watching those animal slaughtering videos. No wonder why your cruel country continue bombing and slaughtering the people...
To the good Japanese people, whalers are making you and your country look more stupid and disgusting. So to keep the great name of Japan, and respect for the good people of Japan, work to shut down whalers! This is not science it is baby-level & fraud. Put them out of business. Stand up and object! Whalers are causing shame to Japan. The nail that sticks up must be hammered down. Hammer down whale killers. Pound the ICR out of existence. Arigato
yugopixy, you have never heard that Norway's reputation is cracked due to its whaling?? I'm here to tell that Norway AND Iceland's reputations are "cracked" due to their whaling. Get out more and see what people are saying.
As for the reserch whaling, IWC has no right to stop Japan issuing the Special Permit, for which is provided under Article VIII of the International Convention for the
Regulation of Whaling (ICRW). It's a own right of contracting Government.
It might be a good idea that founding IWPC (International Whale Protection Commission) which equips own anti-sciectific committee, it a best place for anti-whaling states that pay no attention to the sciectific committee of current IWC.
@yugopixy: You still did not say anything about Taiji. Even though the IWC does not control it, there's no difference to whaling in Antarctica. And now I want you to comment on Taiji.
@free2help:You still did not say anything about the Denmark Voting. And now I want you to comment to GreenLand's people.
As for the small type whaling of Taiji, Do you want to me saying "Oh! ridiculous! We must stop mass slaughter of the holy intelligent whales!" like a whale evangelist? Be reasonable.
After all, Would you disagree all whaling without exception whether the specific whale(like a minke) is proved scientifically as abundant for sustainable use or not?
This "Japanese Whaling Science Data" looks like a powerpoint presentation done by a kindergarten level school child.
Is this really what Japan, (the inventor of things like 2x digital wave form oversampling in audio devices) presented to the IWC?? This presentation here with little tiny whale icons pasted onto a poorly-drawn map? Is this really the sum-total result of japanese whaling "research"? If so this is pathetic.
Thanks for posting this, because now anyone can see IRC Japan is a Sham.
If you find a problem, please produce statistical or biological objection against the presentation. Saying "kindergarten level" is a senseless argument. Try again!
Honestly - who gets sick pro-hunters (Japan 's ICR) to survey the whales when they have the sole future aim of killing them for profit!
Totally rediculous scientific research, the world's scientific community are laughing at your pointless research aims and ludicrous research methodologies.
Large amount of useless biased data created by JARPA. Just 4 scientific papers in 18 years that might have required lethal research of whales and even then all other countries say you can do the research by non-lethal methods.
A total cover up for illegal commercial whaling! Sea Shepherd will stop Japan's blood lust!
Unfortunately, it seems many guys missed a my question. Once again.
Q) Would do you have any rational reason to support EU,AUZ,NZ that voted down the Denmark's(Greenland) proposal at the previous IWC 60 meeting, though its quota(10 humpback/year) is clearly admitted by IWC's scientific committee as a sustainable and harmless for the polulation of humpback whales?
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A) No. They don't have ANY rationality. It might be probably better for those whaling countries to leave the IWC and form a new organizations for sustainable whaling. It is actually recommended by Mr. Paul Watson.
I was surprised that the states voted 'yes' for the Greenland's quota. I guess the whaling is not the interests of the majorities now. Maybe this is why Paul Watson moved to Australia?
Besides US, I also welcomed that Switzerland had changed its mind after the Danish speech then voted 'Yes' for Greerand's humpback quota with respect for the advice of IWC's scientific committee.
It seems to me US media has much less interests about whaling issue today than UK,AZ.
You never heard because you never cared. It proved that you don't have a capacity to think at a multi-dimensional aspect. It is like a school bullying.
As a result, Sea Shepherd's act was condemned by ALL member countries of the IWC.
Guys, thanks a lot comments here. But, I 'd like a constructive argument on scientific basis rather than a mutual critisizing. Please Reply the following my question, First.
Q) Would do you have any rational reason to support EU,AUZ,NZ that voted down the Denmark's(Greenland) proposal at the previous IWC 60 meeting, though its quota(10 humpback/year) is clearly admitted by by IWC's scientific committee as a sustainable and harmless for the polulation of humpback whales?
Small countries who live on the sea that are hunting on their own shorelines are not a big threat, although there are cases where they can also wipe off populations. Just because you are indigenous doesn't mean you can't wipe out populations; even if the weakness in the food chain is caused by overfishing and pollution which is usually the case.
Why are so many yanks and Japs against anything that looks after the environment?
Australia's caobon emission per capita is more than the yanks'. Please do something for the global warming which might cause negative impacts on whales.
I honestry admire your passion but I can't support the Sea Shepherd either. I saw a video when 2 members were "kidnapped" by the Nishin Maru. Did you see that? Why they told a lie to the media that they were kidnapped?? The whalers treated them quite nicely, feeding them, providing room with shower, etc. In the camera, they clearly said that they refused to go back.
Of course I do, here is a peter garret vid for you /watch?v=rJt64g6YxWA 1:30
Sea Shepherd dont deceive people and is saying just a little as 4 million$ plus fuel is needed is needed till november for operation Musashi to bankrupt Japanese whaling fleet send send it to collection agencies.
Dont make me to make fun of you comparing damn terrorists to eco-defenders. If you insist I'll bring up mercury's effect to brain development over and over again till you quit eating sea food.
So Sea Shepherd needs to make $4 million for crew's FREE accommodation and FREE foods? Then they can get a better foods from the whalers once they got on board?
Anti-whaling countries support delusion and reject all the scientific dada. Are they really protecting the environment or just making money from the issues?
The director of the GreenPeace Japan make 26,000,000 yen per year, which is much more than the whalers. Yeah they receive a lot of donations from overseas.
I didn't know that protesting against whaling can make a lot of money.
Japan ripps off the oceans kills whales and dolphins, over fishes, toxicity high on the roof top. You can develop film in Tokyo Bay. Your gov. hides the truth about how catastrophically your environment is polluted hides truth about the poisons and mercury that makes you guys idiots.
Then one of you posts a vid such as this one then I laugh.
so you support the delusion of the money-sucking anti-whaling groups???
The meats are tested before sales. Why do you think the government lie to its own people? They have a qite strict control on food. Look at the news about the contamination of imported foods to Japan. They even returned all barley to Australia once because level of the contamination was higher than the criteria.
Check out news about mercury levels in dolphins and you will find that cover ups from the Japanese fisheries department are not rare.
Anti-whaling, hmm. It makes my blood boil to see the flippant lying and trickery you use to continue an enterprise which is not necessary, not profitable and not sustainable against the concerns of the countries it impacts on, or the scientists who decry the vulnerability of the whales.
Japanese commercial whaling makes no sense at all.
What kind of Profit do you take in arguing here for the Whalekillers? Ppl like do never do something just for a good cause, so for what insane organisation do you work? ICR?!
Stop posting stupid lies on YT.
The killing of Cetacean is the PAST and you know it!
Even your way by extinct them former or later, but better my way to protect them and shut down whaling!
What I still don't understand is why so many Whales have to die for the research programs. I know that many of the 'tests' that are done can easily be done with living Whales as well, such as DNA checks. For a drop of blood that is necessary you don't have to kill a whole Whale, especially not a thousand each year!!
What I have never heard from a Japanese pro-whaler: If all the Whale meet in Japanese restaurants does not come from the scientific research, where does it come from then?
Thanks your post. But you'd better to comment after watching the video.
1)Lethal or non-lethal
If you could see a stomach comtent of whale via DNA checks, let me know. It'also welcome offering the space satellite which could exactly get a blubber thickness of whale with non-lethal method.
It's just a statistical common sence. If you inventigate the population of Germany, would it be enough to count your family?
3)Where the whale meet come from?
You should read the article VIII of ICRW which admits seicintific whaling. The whale meat ends up on the market or restaurant is a requirement of the treaty to ensure that resources are not wasted.
Finally, you should see a whale is just a one of marine resources to be wasted under sustainable use.
Yes, you're right, whales could have been sustainably 'used'. In the past whales were killed for machine oil, ice cream and such. Result: only 1% of the whale population is left. Is that sustainable?
So, if you want to see stomage contents and check the blubber thickness you'd have to kill one single whale (or do you really need to KILL it?), but not 1000 every year!!
What do you have to say about Japanese pro-whalers paying for other countries supporting whaling on the IWC, for example?
What you saying is that if the stomach contents of one sample minke whale is a full accidentally, other 760,000(a minke stock calculated by the IWC's Scientific Committee in 1990) must be the same. What's a scientific!
How do you think about the Denmark's proposal was voted down by EU at the previous IWC 60th meeting, though the Greenland quota(10 humpback/year) is admitted as a sustainable and harmless for the population of humpback whales by scientific committee?
>What do you have to say about Japanese pro-whalers paying for other countries supporting whaling on the IWC, for example?
It's a stock phrase of anti-whaling. Don't you know the fact that Japan is 3rd place in ODA world ranking? 1st is US, 2nd is UK. Both stats has been a position against whaling.
If you point is true, in short it's possible to purchase other nation's vote with its financial aid, Caribbean nations located in the backyard of US would vote against whling.
I didn't see them checking any of the whales age, sex organs or stomache contents.
They hunt the whales in the Antartic because it's a whale sanctuary where the whales are to be protected not hunted!!
velvetinebunny 2 years ago
Q, Do you favor that AUZ, NZ, EU refused the Danish(Greenland) quota proposal at the recent IWC 61th assembly?
The Greenland's request, 10 humpback a year, had been certified as "NO" harm to the population of humpback off west Greenland by IWC's scientific Committee.
yugopixy 2 years ago
What is the point of this video?
Lethal research didn't help provide any of the spurious findings and the extremely low amount of scientific reports are of a laughably low quality - Japan is not whaling to collect research - it is collecting food.
Logicbeatslies 2 years ago
@Logicbeatslies
Q1, Do you favor that AUZ voted down the Danish(Greenland) proposal, its quota(10 humpback a year) had been verified as "NO" influence on humpback specie by IWC's scientific Committee, at the IWC 60th assembly?
Q2, After all, Would you require a ban on any whaling on the earth whether or not its population is increasing and abundant for hunting, as one of marine resources, under the scientific-managed quota system?
yugopixy 2 years ago
Yes, of course I am against hunting Humpbacks.
It isn't just about 10 whales as you should well realise. It is about opening the flood gates to commercial whaling for ANY country and humpbacks are just hundreds away from being back on the endangered list.
This is irresponsible marine management to the extreme.
Logicbeatslies 2 years ago
@Logicbeatslies
Q1, Are you opposed to the recommendation of IWC's scientific Committee? It says the Greenland's coastal humpback is increasing and would never be affected by 10 hunting quota a year.
Q2, I'm afraid about Auz would against hunting Humpbacks joyfully even if your water is occupied with billions of Humpbacks and being unable to sail out to sea. right?
yugopixy 2 years ago
How you start being realistic and stop asking stupid questions.
Logicbeatslies 2 years ago
@Logicbeatslies
lol It's a familiar response, turning its eye blind to an inconvenient fact and evading the question.
You would never agree to hunt humpback whatever IWC's scientific Committee says, the seven seas are filled with billions of Humpbacks since whale is not a marine resource to be managed, hunt, eaten in your mind.
Be honesty!
yugopixy 2 years ago
There are not billions of Humpbacks.
When there are - get back to me.
Logicbeatslies 2 years ago
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It is all going to be rather funny when one of these Japanese whale poaching fleets gets sunk.
oh teh drama!!!1
Seriously though, Japan is provoking Australia for no good reason. Instead japan should be courting Australia. Its called diplomacy and as it stands Japan is pushing Australia into Chinas' arms.
Worst foreign policy ever but then thats what happens when you let fisheries agency run your whole country!
deadfishfloating 3 years ago
@Grommo
Thanks a lot comments. You seems have a bit knowledge with this issue.
Q1, Do you favor that AUZ voted down the Danish(Greenland) proposal, its quota(10 humpback a year) had been verified as "NO" influence on humpback specie by IWC's scientific Committee, at the IWC 60th assembly?
Q2, After all, Would you require a ban on any whaling on the earth whether or not its population is increasing and abundant for hunting, as one of marine resources, under the scientific-managed quota system?
yugopixy 3 years ago
The fanaticism of defenders of eco-terrorism, determined to continue with a program of vigilantism and high seas piracy, is probably the consequence of a bizarre, unrealistic, quasi-religous political programme which advocates zero-tolerance for whale hunting of any shape and form. For these fanatics refuse to accept the reality that the scale of the hunt, even with allowances made for aboriginal groups and scientific whaling, is a tiny blip compared to 50-60 years ago.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 4
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That is not the point.
Here again you skirt and avoid the issue, trying to duck and weave and distract around a single over-riding fact.
There is a moratorium on Whaling.
The IWC itself that specifies the conditions of the moratorium states that whaling in the Ocean sanctuary is forbidden. International conservation law also says it's forbidden.
Japanese whale poachers break those international laws and stipulations.
You are a defender of criminals.
Your fanatically defend criminality.
Grommo 3 years ago
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Who cares the scale of the hunt. it doesn't matter if it's only two whales in the ocean sanctuary. It is still illegal.
Your devious argument follows the form of "But we only want to steal a few objects from the property, they were seriously burgled before so if we only steal and thieve a few items that's OK"
It doesn't matter how you try to defend breaking the law by pointing the finger at whaling in the past. It is still illegal to poach any whales for any reason in the sanctuary.
Grommo 3 years ago
It's troubling that supporters of PETA-Shepherd defend the very dangerous high-speed maneouvers of ecoterrorists which imperil their own lives as well as those of others. Such fanatical partisanship extends to defending other acts of terrorism, such as the various substances and projectiles hurled on the decks of whaling vessels, imperiling the safety of the captain and crew. A youtube board is not really the place for such defense, but rather the criminal courts trying the terrorists.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 3
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It is troubling that defenders of illegal and criminal poachers defend the dangerous ramming of other ships. Ramming that independant international shipping bodies have stated clearly was deliberately initiated by Japanese whaling vessels.
It is obvious that you will continue to make false assertions when the facts are clear and contradict your statements.
You fanatically support illegal poachers and their dangerous, potentially murderous ramming of NGO vessels.
Grommo 3 years ago
Defenders of eco-terrorism have a political bedfellow in the government of Australia, which explains why they are now willing to avoid criticism of Australia's historical and current environmental record. Oz's declaration of her territorial waters extending to the Antarctic, is not a form of redressing this reality at all, and one wonders what kind of fanaticism could inspire such delusion.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 5
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I have not avoided criticism of Oz's environmental record. I clearly stated attempts to redress mistakes are underway.
You again misrepresent.
Numerous species have been driven to extinction in the ancient past and recent past such as the Thylacine. The Tas devil is presently under threat and crocs were driven to low numbers
Effective conservationists such as Steve Irwin made great contributions to wildlife preservation.
I'm sure in your sad mind persons such as Steve Irwin are "ecoterrorists"
Grommo 3 years ago
Right, that must be someone's sense of being ironic, polluting a youtube board by spamming posts again and again, and in the name of protecting the environment, no less.
Such childish behaviour, topped with an absurdly heavy veneer of self-righteousness, does not serve the so-called "ecoterrorist" movement well, rather it simply reinforces the view that such political programs attract, and are supported by, fanatics.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
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I only replied to your voluminous posts in appoximately equal number . You wrote a similar number of posts. If someone disagrees and points out your deceptive misinformation then obviously that is spamming right? If you write an equal number of ridiculous and pompous posts that cannot possibly be interpreted as spam can it.
Grommo 3 years ago
You refuse to acknowledge that whaling in the Ocean sanctuary is not allowed by the IWC, International conservation law and Australian law.
Lethal whaling is not allowed in the ocean sanctuary.
Sure Japan does not recognise the rules to which it is a signatory.
By whaling in the sanctuary in defiance of the IWC etc, Japanese Poachers are committing a crime.
No matter how you spin it, Japanese Crims are at work and International law allows for NGOs to enforce the law by stopping the poachers
Grommo 3 years ago
Shepherd-PETA, if not outright endorsing terrorism, makes it very clear that the organisation endorses vigilantism, the legal staus of which vis-a-vis terrorism is left to criminal lawyers to sort out.
Vigilantism, terrorism, sea piracy, it really amounts to much the same thing under existing international conventions, and a failure to enforce these laws for political reasons, threatens to play a disproportionate role in scuttling existing international laws and institutions.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 4
There is some profoundly unscientific logic being attempted to justify Commercial whaling. Blame whales for the disruption of ocean ecosystems. Attempt to convince the public that culling whales is the way to make the oceans healthy.
I'm sorry but the oceanic ecosystems have survived perfectly healthy for millions of years without human "management".
To suggest otherwise is devious and ingenuous.
Oceans do not require hunting by humans and never have so for millions of years. Not now either.
Grommo 3 years ago
Another thing which these whaling threads confirm is the active presence of the PETA-Shepherd lobby on youtube. Comments on this video were dormant for some time before I posted a few words. Suddenly, it was kick started into life, not so much by myself, but by the PETA-Shepherd supporters.
This suggests to me that PETA-Shepherd sympathisers/supporters/employees are monitoring youtube 24/7. That's scary, especially as they are incapable of piecing together a single coherent argument.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
As for Sea Shepherd, Eco-Terrorists, Japan's National Police Agencyan already issued an arrest warrant for the three men: Daniel Bebawi from Nottingham, the UK, and AmericansJon Batchelor and Ralph Koo.
At the same time, the Japan authoritiy also requested ICPO to place these men on "wanted" list as "red notice" level, which would notify the authorities in UK and US.
yugopixy 3 years ago
Though the resolution which calls for inter-government cooperation for the safaty on sea was endorsed at the previous IWC meeing, UK and US seems have not take any action about these indictees.
If this stalled situation, look like a tacit sabotage of anti-whaling countries, is going on, reluctantly Japan would have no other choice to take a harder action to protect whaling fleets from terrorist's attack in the future reserch whaling.
yugopixy 3 years ago
Given that Japan is an ally of both those countries in something called a "war on terrorism", one would think the Japanese government should have no trouble securing arrests - except that Japan's "allies" have very self serving definitions of what does and doesn't constitute terrorism. We've seen this in ex-Yugoslavia many times, but so has Japan, with Washington's recent rapproachment with North Korea just one of many examples.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Of course it has no support because no-one takes the claim of "eco-terrorists" seriously.
To continue to use the term shows the complete moral and intellectual bankruptcy of supporters of commercial whaling.
Terrorists seek to kill.
Anti-terrorists seek to preserve life.
No matter with what deviancy the argument is attempted to be spun by the moral-less killers, a terrorist is a killer and a saver of lives is a hero.
Grommo 3 years ago
So what that means is, the arrest of the Shepherd-PETA saved lives, and those defending themselves from their aggressive terrorism are "heroes".
seseljsrs 3 years ago 5
Perhaps they could take harder action against the carelessness of their own mercenary staff and lax maintenance and unsafe practices which resulted in deaths of japanese crew members.
As much as you may bleat about safety at sea, Lloyds shipping has stated categorically that Japanese vessels have rammed protest vessels, not the other way around.
Loss of human life at sea has been due to Japanese incompetence and stupidity.
Massive loss of sentient life has been caused by greed and callousness.
Grommo 3 years ago
I've seen several documentaries on the tactics of Shepherd-PETA. Basically, we're talking about the navigation of various vessels to intimidate and provoke incidents, violating an entire series of maritime laws in the process.
Unquestionably actions of terrorism.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 5
And yet lloyds shipping have stated quite clearly that it is the Japanese vessels that have deliberately caused all incidents of ramming in the southern ocean whilst conducting illegal whale poaching. These are common criminal poachers hunting for profit. The IWC has demanded that no lethal whaling be conducted in the Ocean Sanctuary, a sanctuary that the IWC recognises and that all signatories by signatory convention must recognise.
Japanese vessels unquestionably commit acts of terrorism
Grommo 3 years ago
Japan again threatens to take violent action when it doesn't get it's own way against the wishes of a majority, like a petulant child.
Japan's whaling breaches the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the Antarctic Treaty System and the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) and the International Convention on the Regulation of Whaling. Three separate panels of independent, international legal experts agree Japans whaling is not just cruel, its criminal.
Grommo 3 years ago
Even more panels of international law would agree Shepherd-PETA's terrorism is not just cruel, but criminal.
As for likening Japan to a petulant child, rather than a global power, that is a big part of the problem.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 5
The Eco Terrorist term used with Gay abandon.
A terrorist is someone dedicated to indiscriminate killing.
A terrorist is someone who uses bombs and guns to kill and maim with scant regard for pain or cruelty.
A terrorist will happily electrocute a dying victim.
A terrorist will behead innocent victims.
A terrorist has little emotion and will criticise normal human beings who show emotion.
A terrorist will detonate bombs inside the bodies of living beings.
Criminal terrorists do these things.
Grommo 3 years ago
Nope, sorry, you're just dancing and dancing and getting nowhere, all because you're unwilling to cope with basic facts, which prove that the tactics of Shepherd-PETA to impose an environment of terror in order to achieve their objectives.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
No, you're dancing naked distorting & ignoring facts.
By ramming vessels , detonating explosive bombs inside living creatures, launching stun grenades against independent film crews and NGO protesters upholding international conservation law, by using hidden marksmen, by bringing armed military personnel aboard in defiance of the Antarctic treaty, Japan with no concern for international opinion , law or morality is imposing an environment of terror to achieve its commercial whaling objectives.
Grommo 3 years ago
The label of terrorist does not apply to people who volunteer at their own personal risk and cost to save lives.
"Terrorist" only applies to those engaged in the act of despicable cruelty and slaughter.
Terrorists are by definition and nature killers.
The term "terrorist" is only applicable to whalers.
Grommo 3 years ago
Your definition of terrorist is very weak. Any self-proclaimed "freedom fighter" would also claim the same definition.
These terrorists to whom you refer are guilty by their own admission of endangering their own lives as well as those of others, and that their actions can be interpreted as violence. A warped view of environmental responsibility apologises for throwing acid at workers who are conducting a fishing operation that is allowed for by an international process.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
You use the discredited and misleading "acid attack" assertion.
This is typical deceit and an attempt to misrepresent and is entirely to be expected from apologists for criminals such as yourself.
Orange juice and salad dressing also contain acid and their ph is virtually identical to that of rancid butter thrown for its smellyness, not its acidity.
I'm sure you scream "terrorist acid attack" when served acidic salad dressing at a restaurant.
Grommo 3 years ago
Your definition of a terrorist is obviously weaker and fails to even recognise the distinction that NGO's upholding and enforcing international conservation law against criminal corporations breaking those laws and in the process saving lives. The only organisation that has killed humans is the japanese whaling fleet. The only organisation dedicated to killing sentient lifefor profit is the commercial whaling company.
You have a very sad and deceitful nature.
Grommo 3 years ago
The Australian Federal court order still stands and the whaling company has had notice served officially, stating categorically that Japan may not conduct lethal commercial whaling of any kind in the internationally recognised Southern Ocean sanctuary. Anyone who does so is a criminal.
The law is unquestionably clear. Japanese whalers in the southern Ocean sanctuary are criminals and must be arrested and jailed
Grommo 3 years ago
Well there you go. If every country's highest court claimed to be competent to ajudicate international law we would have another global conflict, quick. In the real world, however, only those confident of their military power or alliances seek to do so. And so, Oz through such declarations and others, strongly indicates her aspirations as an imperial power.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
It is simple mathematics. Sea Shepherd and Greenpeace have tens of millions of supporters all over the world and a percentage watch youtube. Whole nations are disgusted by the deviousness and dishonesty of commercial whaling operations masquerading as Scientific research
Bushmeat traders hunting mountain gorillas at least do not have the gall to pretend they are conducting scientific research but commercial whalers seriously expect the rest of the world to believe their charade.
Grommo 3 years ago
If these groups have 10s of millions of supporters as you claim, I very much doubt you would feel hard pressed to dominate this board with a flood of postings, which are just a rehash of the same posts you made elsewhere.
Also, I doubt that Shepherd-PETA, if they were as popular as you suggest would see its interests in an alliance with an imperial state such as Australia which has been responsible for so much environmental destruction in its short history.
seseljsrs 3 years ago 2
Australia has been responsible for environmental destruction in the past. It presently seeks to redress those mistakes.
Your twisted logic suggests that if someone made a mistake in the past that gives a free rein for other nations to cause whatever mahem they like in the present.
Grommo 3 years ago
As someone who works in the field of marine science documentary I am perfectly entitled to write whatever I like on youtube regardless of how many other people also agree with me. A rehash of factual comments I have stated elsewhere are still valid. Just because I state the truth more than once doesn't mean that that truth is any less true
Your objection to a flood of factual posts by me implies you think a quantity of factual statements is less valid than your smaller number of deceitful ones
Grommo 3 years ago
Admittedly, I held off commenting on all of the videos relating to the whaling crisis for a long time for the reason that supporters of PETA-Shepherd will waste space on these threads with muckraking and general namecalling. It was all too easy to predict any Serb questioning the terrorism of PETA-Shepherd would be confronted with a regurgitation of antiSerb propaganda completely unrelated to the issue at hand, and that such a response would come in a matter of minutes. Just too easy.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
NOTICE to ALL VIEWERS:
AntiSerb bigot ZildjianHanser3245 succumbed to the temptation of linking whale hunting with extreme antiSerb propaganda.
This is interesting, as in some respects, there is a parallel.
Protection of whales which would otherwise be left at the hands of "cruel Japanese whalers" is Australia's propaganda for advancing a claim to the territory and waters of the South Pole, much as the US used false claims of protecting Albanians to build military bases on Serb lands.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Serbs butchered thousand of innocent civilians, raped and torched them alive.
I don't see anything wrong to be against them.
Japan won't get extra share from anything.
If Japan is not there to get something extra it would be backed off by now.
AwesomaticScuttler 3 years ago
NOTICE to ALL VIEWERS:
Note that the PRO WHALER users named seseljsrs + yugopixy are now discussing and promoting SERBIA. Remember, the country you see them now promoting, Serbia, is who conducted racial & ethnic cleansing. Acts of genocide against people. That's the place where the mass-muderer named Milosevic was convicted of War Crimes for killing people. The same people who promote PRO WHALING are the same people who enjoy racism, ethnic purging, white supremacy and killing people. Whalers
ZildjianHanser3245 3 years ago
ZildjianHanser3245, if I borrowed your tactics I would be saying something like, "ANTI WHALERS support Hitler" - but I haven't done so.
President Milosevic was never convicted of anything, learn to read before abusing your computer like some 3rd world migrant living in Austria.
Again, show me the proof that many of the countries against Japanese research whaling are not also guilty of those things you charge Serbs with: "racism, ethnic purging, white supremacy and killing people" (sic).
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Nazis support Japanese whaling.
AwesomaticScuttler 3 years ago
Of course, for the anti-whale lobby, there is no hypocrisy in the terrorism of PETA-Shepherd, nor in its alliance with Australia, a colonial nation which has exterminated dozens of species as a direct consequence of taking over aboriginal lands. It's interesting that few in Australia see any contradiction in control of shark populations (in the cruelest manner possible), and denouncing whale hunting as "extermination" etc.
It's revealing PETA-Shepherd enjoys support in other colonies like Oz.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Is the anti-whale lobby an extension of PETA terrorism, which has had the good fortune to enjoy an alliance with Australian imperialists wanting to claim the South Pole? Recent events suggest this is the case.
Appeals to the "good people" of Japan, apparently do not take into account the many (good) people who oppose terrorism of fishermen at the hands of PETA-Shepherd.
And that underhanded praise of Japanese high-tech from the headline boy is so deeply mired in the most odious irony.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
I have been disgusted with the anti-whale lobby of Aussies who could not look squarely at the scientific reality what Japan shows.
There is the evidence that nobody mentioned own opinion about the Denmark proposal voted down by EU,NZ,AUZ at previous IWC 60th meeting.
yugopixy 3 years ago
It is not related to whaling, are you a supporter of SRP? I red the news that serbian parliament ratified SAA and Tomislav Nikolic resigned, which aroused me mixed feeling...
I hope that the serbial resolution, seeking an advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on the legality of the unilateral declaration of independence by Kosovo-Metohija, will be endorsed by majority at the incoming UN Generall assembly.
yugopixy 3 years ago
Serbia's ratification of the SAA was a good thing only in that it neutralised antiSerb EU from objecting to the ensuing ratification of the agreement with Russia and Gazprom. Meanwhile, the reality remains that antiSerb EU will continue to demand more pounds of flesh at its Kangaroo Court, but also recognition of Kosovo (Greater Albania), and the unity of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia. So, you see SAA ratification really doesn't change much, and EU has made it clear an appeal to ICJ is a no-no.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
Great comedy movie. Thanks for hard laugh.
WatsonTheMagnificent 3 years ago
JAPANESE WHALER FAKE "RESEARCH" DEBUNKED:
"Japan is wrong to blame whales and other marine mammals for reducing fish stocks."
-Study Results confirmed by the BC University Scientific Fisheries Research Division
"Whales-eat-fish theory debunked: researchers"
-Morning Herald
"There is no widely accepted body of scientific evidence supporting the premise that culling whales would aid in the recovery of commercial fisheries"
-CGR4.MOT037
The World Conservation Congress at its world
Session
NRDC
LaboratoryMDu54 3 years ago
Anyone can present an argument claiming there is "no compelling evidence fish stocks are adversely affected by whale populations", but it's another thing altogether to fund a study providing evidence to confirm as much. Meanwhile no one with an ounce of common sense is going to believe more whales i.e. whales which feed on specific forms of marine life doesn't mean less fish stocks. Blaming man for the decline of fish stocks is a valid point, but this doesn't get other predators off.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
I hope that Norway doesn't get as bad as Japan for murdering whales !!!! Please leave the whales alone !!!!
TillyFlop 3 years ago 4
This looks like something a 4th grader had done for a very poor grade in a science fair project. What Idiot with the mercury damaged brain has come up with this crap?
Lorraine56838 3 years ago 3
JAPANESE WHALER'S GARBAGE SCIENCE DEBUNKED:
"Fed:Researchers say Japans whales-eat-fish theory Debunked"-AAPNews
"Scientists find whales innocent of decline in fisheries"-HSI
"Humans are to Blame, Not Whales, For Shortage Of Fish"-SCIENCE NEWS
"There is no evidence to support that marine mammal predation presents an ecological issue for fisheries"-Corkeron
"Whales absolved on fish stocks"-BBC
Attention all Japan, land of great science & hi-tech: WHALERS EMBARASS the GOOD JAPANESE PEOPLE!
LaboratoryMDu54 3 years ago
Marine eco system is too complex to slove rather than estimating the polulation of mike whale.
It seems that the theory, whales is one of the causes for declining fish stocks, is now ongoing hypothesis and furthermore scientific reserch may be needed.
However, it is beyond dispute that the polulation of mike whale is an abundant for sustainable use within the harmless quota.
yugopixy 3 years ago
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Very good video, outlining some of the data collected by Japanese researchers.
What's revealing, however, is that insensitivity towards Japan's opinion on the threat swelling whale populations represent to stocks of cod and other fish is not just limited to an organised anti-whaling lobby. Governments of several countries, which are supposedly Japan's "allies" in a "war on terrorism" (!) support the piracy of extremists, as well as demonstrations of racist bigotry and Japanophobia.
seseljsrs 3 years ago
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It good to see that JARPA keep correcting the scientific informations. As long as Japan stays with the scientific facts, only the dirty acts by anti-whaling countries will be recorded in history. Japan will bring JUSTICE to the LIES of Anti-Whaling Countries.
hex99jojo 3 years ago
Yes you are right. History will never forget you.
vaevictisIV 3 years ago
correcting should be collecting.....I have a headache
hex99jojo 3 years ago
History will add hypocrisy to Japans crimes.
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
I have been disappointed that I'd never heared the opinion about the Danish(Greenland) proposal which was voted down by EU,AUZ,NZ though its quota(10 humpback a year) is verified as harmless to humpback polulation by IWC's scientific Committe at the previous IWC 60th meeting, except KujiraClub-san.
After all, Would Anti-whaling group oppose to all whaling without exception whether the targeted whale is proved scientifically to be abundant and suitable for sustainable use or not?
yugopixy 3 years ago
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Well, the anti-whaling groups don't have brain to think. That's why they don't have any answer to your question, and therefore, there is no valid arguments with the anti-whaling groups. It is just a cult.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
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Sooo, have you brain?? I don't think so. Maybe an A-bomb will change your opinion. After an A-bomb the number of Japanese will increase too like the whales.
vaevictisIV 3 years ago
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The anti-whaling groups complain the science on whaling without presenting ANY sientific data.
Anti-whaling movement is all based on cult.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
oh dear THIS is SOOOOOOO dumb
morgust 3 years ago 2
This dumb thing is all you got? This is Junk science. Minus the word science.
This presentation is UNPROFESSIONAL. It looks like a child did it!
It has no meaningful data all it does is try to justify killing. With all bogus reasons.
= A whale calf could be tagged near birth with a harmless tag with date of birth & later observed to measure age! So it is a complete scam claiming the *only* way is to kill it!
Japan, the country of tech, has whalers so stupid they embarass a nation.
TheGuardianofTime 3 years ago 4
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Lack of the information causes a useless argument.
Thank you for uploading this film.
anti-whaling organisation advocates "world" against whaling.
That's silly piece of propaganda.
miruyaocean 3 years ago
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Japanese are too many now like the whales, maybe you want to get an A-bomb again.
vaevictisIV 3 years ago
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Woh! Americans love bombing on people!
KujiraClub 3 years ago
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vaevictisIV
I just saw your profile. It seems you LOVE watching those animal slaughtering videos. No wonder why your cruel country continue bombing and slaughtering the people...
KujiraClub 3 years ago
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Just who deserves!
vaevictisIV 3 years ago
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vaevictisIV
Don't you know that your country is also hunting whales, btw???
Why don't you drop on your country first? Then you can save whales and people of the world.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
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I'm fighting my country too.
vaevictisIV 3 years ago
Hello to the GOOD Japanese people! (NOT whalers):
To the good Japanese people, whalers are making you and your country look more stupid and disgusting. So to keep the great name of Japan, and respect for the good people of Japan, work to shut down whalers! This is not science it is baby-level & fraud. Put them out of business. Stand up and object! Whalers are causing shame to Japan. The nail that sticks up must be hammered down. Hammer down whale killers. Pound the ICR out of existence. Arigato
phenocyte324 3 years ago
Thanks your kind of caring Japan's fame. But, I have never heared that Norway's reputation is cracked due to its whaling.
yugopixy 3 years ago
yugopixy, you have never heard that Norway's reputation is cracked due to its whaling?? I'm here to tell that Norway AND Iceland's reputations are "cracked" due to their whaling. Get out more and see what people are saying.
askalice50 3 years ago 2
>I'm here to tell that Norway AND Iceland's reputations are "cracked" due to their whaling.
It's interesting. Do you know the people those who engaged in boycot against Norway oil and salmon or the marine products of Iceland?
(The people means an ordinary public people, Of course, Eco-terrorists and narrow-minded Anti-Whaling activists are not counted)
yugopixy 3 years ago
IWC (International Whaling Commision) should stop issuing whaling permits and should shut it self down, than we can have a new organization:
IWPC (International Whale Protection Commission)
icrwhaleorgtellslies 3 years ago
As for the reserch whaling, IWC has no right to stop Japan issuing the Special Permit, for which is provided under Article VIII of the International Convention for the
Regulation of Whaling (ICRW). It's a own right of contracting Government.
It might be a good idea that founding IWPC (International Whale Protection Commission) which equips own anti-sciectific committee, it a best place for anti-whaling states that pay no attention to the sciectific committee of current IWC.
yugopixy 3 years ago
@yugopixy: You still did not say anything about Taiji. Even though the IWC does not control it, there's no difference to whaling in Antarctica. And now I want you to comment on Taiji.
free2help 3 years ago
@free2help:You still did not say anything about the Denmark Voting. And now I want you to comment to GreenLand's people.
As for the small type whaling of Taiji, Do you want to me saying "Oh! ridiculous! We must stop mass slaughter of the holy intelligent whales!" like a whale evangelist? Be reasonable.
After all, Would you disagree all whaling without exception whether the specific whale(like a minke) is proved scientifically as abundant for sustainable use or not?
yugopixy 3 years ago
@yugopixy: Please check ur inbox for a reply
free2help 3 years ago
@free2help
Though it's not my will talking privately, I replied your mail. Please check your box.
yugopixy 3 years ago
This "Japanese Whaling Science Data" looks like a powerpoint presentation done by a kindergarten level school child.
Is this really what Japan, (the inventor of things like 2x digital wave form oversampling in audio devices) presented to the IWC?? This presentation here with little tiny whale icons pasted onto a poorly-drawn map? Is this really the sum-total result of japanese whaling "research"? If so this is pathetic.
Thanks for posting this, because now anyone can see IRC Japan is a Sham.
plasmogine 3 years ago
If you find a problem, please produce statistical or biological objection against the presentation. Saying "kindergarten level" is a senseless argument. Try again!
yugopixy 3 years ago
Result of Japanese "Scientific" Whalling = BOGUS
icrwhaleorgtellslies 3 years ago 4
Honestly - who gets sick pro-hunters (Japan 's ICR) to survey the whales when they have the sole future aim of killing them for profit!
Totally rediculous scientific research, the world's scientific community are laughing at your pointless research aims and ludicrous research methodologies.
Research? - total unnecessary bol**cks more like!
SSCSactivist 3 years ago 7
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Yes, so let's start commercial whaling and mitigate the world food crisis! You know that raising cows destroy the environment right??
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Large amount of useless biased data created by JARPA. Just 4 scientific papers in 18 years that might have required lethal research of whales and even then all other countries say you can do the research by non-lethal methods.
A total cover up for illegal commercial whaling! Sea Shepherd will stop Japan's blood lust!
SSCSactivist 3 years ago 7
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I see you are opposed to the scientific research on whaling. Let's start commercial whaling!!!
KujiraClub 3 years ago
With the ICR's false data? Hell NO!
icrwhaleorgtellslies 3 years ago 5
Then do you have ANY data indicating the whales are in danger??? Hell no!
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Unfortunately, it seems many guys missed a my question. Once again.
Q) Would do you have any rational reason to support EU,AUZ,NZ that voted down the Denmark's(Greenland) proposal at the previous IWC 60 meeting, though its quota(10 humpback/year) is clearly admitted by IWC's scientific committee as a sustainable and harmless for the polulation of humpback whales?
yugopixy 3 years ago
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A) No. They don't have ANY rationality. It might be probably better for those whaling countries to leave the IWC and form a new organizations for sustainable whaling. It is actually recommended by Mr. Paul Watson.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
I don't know Mr. Paul Watson. If you mean Captain Paul Watson, I need proof and evidence.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Don't you remember during the IWC meeting. he told in the public that Japan should leave from the IWC. I agree with him!!!
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Every year japan showers threats:
'we will leava IWC'
next year:
'WE WILL LEAVE IWC'
other year:
'We are about to leave IWC'
the following year:
'We most definitely leaving IWC this year'
And the 'other' threat:
'Give us our permit or we will kill humpbacks'
icrwhaleorgtellslies 3 years ago 6
That is because Japan contribute most of the IWC budget. This is why many countries, such as US doesn't want Japan to leave.
Well, it is better for Japan to leave the IWC countriers with the other whaling countries, and organize the new organizations.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
I was surprised that the states voted 'yes' for the Greenland's quota. I guess the whaling is not the interests of the majorities now. Maybe this is why Paul Watson moved to Australia?
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Besides US, I also welcomed that Switzerland had changed its mind after the Danish speech then voted 'Yes' for Greerand's humpback quota with respect for the advice of IWC's scientific committee.
It seems to me US media has much less interests about whaling issue today than UK,AZ.
yugopixy 3 years ago
I think the world is changing. Maybe it needs more time for Australia and NZ to be able to see the reality. I mean, THEIR reality.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
This YugoClub just pretends to want this:
"I 'd like a constructive argument on scientific basis rather than a mutual critisizing"
If it were the case, he already have replied that way, but as you have seen he does not!
Of course he does not, because he is not able to find an excuse for all the stupid slaughter!
Ghomtu 3 years ago
Do you have an excuse for not hunting whales?
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Never heard such a real stupid question YugoClub!
Doesnt make sence at all just to turn around everything!
Noone needs an excuse for leaving an creature alive and by itself.
Not even if it is such a retarded lifeform like you!
Ghomtu 3 years ago
You never heard because you never cared. It proved that you don't have a capacity to think at a multi-dimensional aspect. It is like a school bullying.
As a result, Sea Shepherd's act was condemned by ALL member countries of the IWC.
It is
KujiraClub 3 years ago
So do you have an excuse for not hunting whales?
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Guys, thanks a lot comments here. But, I 'd like a constructive argument on scientific basis rather than a mutual critisizing. Please Reply the following my question, First.
Q) Would do you have any rational reason to support EU,AUZ,NZ that voted down the Denmark's(Greenland) proposal at the previous IWC 60 meeting, though its quota(10 humpback/year) is clearly admitted by by IWC's scientific committee as a sustainable and harmless for the polulation of humpback whales?
yugopixy 3 years ago
Ever heard of the 'slippery slope'. look it up and you will get a better idea of Australia and other civilized countries perspective.
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
Please also try to get a better idea of the small island countries who depend their food supplies from the ocean.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Small countries who live on the sea that are hunting on their own shorelines are not a big threat, although there are cases where they can also wipe off populations. Just because you are indigenous doesn't mean you can't wipe out populations; even if the weakness in the food chain is caused by overfishing and pollution which is usually the case.
Why are so many yanks and Japs against anything that looks after the environment?
It is we have got!
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
Yeah that's true. This is why sustainable management is necessary and it is the purpose of the IWC.
Do you think you are protecting the environment by just attacking the whaling ship? Please grow up from the Disney World, get some readings.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Australia's caobon emission per capita is more than the yanks'. Please do something for the global warming which might cause negative impacts on whales.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Good! We had a common!
I honestry admire your passion but I can't support the Sea Shepherd either. I saw a video when 2 members were "kidnapped" by the Nishin Maru. Did you see that? Why they told a lie to the media that they were kidnapped?? The whalers treated them quite nicely, feeding them, providing room with shower, etc. In the camera, they clearly said that they refused to go back.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
I saw that too. When they are offered water they asked if it was poisined, heh,
Mr Morimoto said any accusations that we tied them is untrue then ICR realised a video for whole world to see they were tied up to the ship.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
So the Sea Shepherd deceive the people who don't know much about the whaling issues and collect money from those people?
Did you know that Sea Shepherd was condemned by all the member countries at the IWC? The member country includes Peter Garret.
What Sea Shepherd is doing is just like Al Qaeda, Hizborah, ets.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Of course I do, here is a peter garret vid for you /watch?v=rJt64g6YxWA 1:30
Sea Shepherd dont deceive people and is saying just a little as 4 million$ plus fuel is needed is needed till november for operation Musashi to bankrupt Japanese whaling fleet send send it to collection agencies.
Dont make me to make fun of you comparing damn terrorists to eco-defenders. If you insist I'll bring up mercury's effect to brain development over and over again till you quit eating sea food.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Sea Shepherd is not in the position of doing that. Since it is an foregn affairs, you have to push your own government.
Otherwise,, Sea Shepherd is a violent terrorist.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
ForSpart
So Sea Shepherd needs to make $4 million for crew's FREE accommodation and FREE foods? Then they can get a better foods from the whalers once they got on board?
Why don't you guys just get a normal job?
KujiraClub 3 years ago
I have money so I can donate.
To say: It is in giving what we receive.
Is the spirit.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Typical idiot hypocrites!
KujiraClub 3 years ago
yugoclub you are the typical idiot hypocrite. The owner of this very funny video, lets laugh all together hahahhahhha :DDD
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Pro-gwhaling countries support science.
Anti-whaling countries support delusion and reject all the scientific dada. Are they really protecting the environment or just making money from the issues?
KujiraClub 3 years ago
They do both, without money they wouldnt be exist. So they have to make munney. their income comes from 'donations'.
I hear only north Korea dont have environmental or non-profit organizations are you really from Japan?
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
The director of the GreenPeace Japan make 26,000,000 yen per year, which is much more than the whalers. Yeah they receive a lot of donations from overseas.
I didn't know that protesting against whaling can make a lot of money.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
that is the reason why me and my friends support sea shepherd.
/watch?v=zqmooT9s7zY
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Thanx for posting the video.
But I guess those idiot environmentalists never be able to understand this...
They support terrorists (Sea Shepherd) and theft(GreenPeace).
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Japan ripps off the oceans kills whales and dolphins, over fishes, toxicity high on the roof top. You can develop film in Tokyo Bay. Your gov. hides the truth about how catastrophically your environment is polluted hides truth about the poisons and mercury that makes you guys idiots.
Then one of you posts a vid such as this one then I laugh.
one of you post a video and I laugh.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Then you guys comment I laugh again.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
"hides the truth about how catastrophically your environment is polluted hides truth about the poisons and mercury that makes you guys idiots."
There may be something in that?
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
hahahaha
The mercury contents in whales are much less than tuna. Don't you eat tuna?
Idiot hypocrites!
KujiraClub 3 years ago 3
I doubt you can support that claim.
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
so you support the delusion of the money-sucking anti-whaling groups???
The meats are tested before sales. Why do you think the government lie to its own people? They have a qite strict control on food. Look at the news about the contamination of imported foods to Japan. They even returned all barley to Australia once because level of the contamination was higher than the criteria.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Check out news about mercury levels in dolphins and you will find that cover ups from the Japanese fisheries department are not rare.
Anti-whaling, hmm. It makes my blood boil to see the flippant lying and trickery you use to continue an enterprise which is not necessary, not profitable and not sustainable against the concerns of the countries it impacts on, or the scientists who decry the vulnerability of the whales.
Japanese commercial whaling makes no sense at all.
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
you are just retarded.
the scientists KNOW there are abundant whales!
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Some numbers have improved, but the IWC is clearly not structured to handle Japanese commercial whaling, especially if everybody had the same ideas.
Japan has never offered a credible reason why they should be allowed to hunt whales. Moreover, Japan has made a clear case why they can't be trusted.
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
KujiraPixy
sooooo many whales, so abundant like in billions, soon they all will end up Japanese costs and u guys will have no reason to go there.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
KujiraPixy
/watch?v=t7ieUowel1M
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Yep, that is the link. It would be good if only one Jap woke up to what is being done to his people by his people.
Logicbeatslies 3 years ago
Logic be sure if Japanese Gov. told how polluted Japan is Government wouldnt stay in power.
There is a nice joke(to me it is a joke coz I laugh to everything mercury related) - sad truth around.
"It is said that we can develop films in Tokyo Bay for free."
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
No he can't support that.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
@free2help
"Well, I think it is useless to keep commenting here because you block any good argument."
Thats right! He is just wasting your time!
Ghomtu 3 years ago
Well still this video is funny. Shows how retard pro-whaling argument is.
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago
Yepp! And retarded is very polite!
Ghomtu 3 years ago
Oh so you are retarded then.
KujiraClub 3 years ago
Your comment makes no sence at all, try again!
Ghomtu 3 years ago
@yugopixy
or any other of your multiple accountnames
What kind of Profit do you take in arguing here for the Whalekillers? Ppl like do never do something just for a good cause, so for what insane organisation do you work? ICR?!
Stop posting stupid lies on YT.
The killing of Cetacean is the PAST and you know it!
Even your way by extinct them former or later, but better my way to protect them and shut down whaling!
Ghomtu 3 years ago
What I still don't understand is why so many Whales have to die for the research programs. I know that many of the 'tests' that are done can easily be done with living Whales as well, such as DNA checks. For a drop of blood that is necessary you don't have to kill a whole Whale, especially not a thousand each year!!
What I have never heard from a Japanese pro-whaler: If all the Whale meet in Japanese restaurants does not come from the scientific research, where does it come from then?
free2help 3 years ago
Thanks your post. But you'd better to comment after watching the video.
1)Lethal or non-lethal
If you could see a stomach comtent of whale via DNA checks, let me know. It'also welcome offering the space satellite which could exactly get a blubber thickness of whale with non-lethal method.
yugopixy 3 years ago
2)Killing a thousand each year!!
It's just a statistical common sence. If you inventigate the population of Germany, would it be enough to count your family?
3)Where the whale meet come from?
You should read the article VIII of ICRW which admits seicintific whaling. The whale meat ends up on the market or restaurant is a requirement of the treaty to ensure that resources are not wasted.
Finally, you should see a whale is just a one of marine resources to be wasted under sustainable use.
yugopixy 3 years ago
Yes, you're right, whales could have been sustainably 'used'. In the past whales were killed for machine oil, ice cream and such. Result: only 1% of the whale population is left. Is that sustainable?
So, if you want to see stomage contents and check the blubber thickness you'd have to kill one single whale (or do you really need to KILL it?), but not 1000 every year!!
What do you have to say about Japanese pro-whalers paying for other countries supporting whaling on the IWC, for example?
free2help 3 years ago
Didn't you read my comment?
What you saying is that if the stomach contents of one sample minke whale is a full accidentally, other 760,000(a minke stock calculated by the IWC's Scientific Committee in 1990) must be the same. What's a scientific!
How do you think about the Denmark's proposal was voted down by EU at the previous IWC 60th meeting, though the Greenland quota(10 humpback/year) is admitted as a sustainable and harmless for the population of humpback whales by scientific committee?
yugopixy 3 years ago
>What do you have to say about Japanese pro-whalers paying for other countries supporting whaling on the IWC, for example?
It's a stock phrase of anti-whaling. Don't you know the fact that Japan is 3rd place in ODA world ranking? 1st is US, 2nd is UK. Both stats has been a position against whaling.
If you point is true, in short it's possible to purchase other nation's vote with its financial aid, Caribbean nations located in the backyard of US would vote against whling.
yugopixy 3 years ago