AnandAadhar's Johnson/Mylow replication trial 1

[sparkyrocky12131963]

stayed tuned becuse a big event regarding my brothers motor will soon take place for those who have the faith, this is mylows brother tony i did tell my brother to fake all the motors after i found out that sterling alan got involved with my brother rick, sterling took advantage of him the only two motors are the first ones he and i built in early 1997 to 2002. the new one is based on the stone henge design. becuse the would is going to change .

onyl a few select folks will see this

[leobluesy]

I assume that the force you have to use in your hands to resist magnetic movement..is just enough to power the wheel...... hence.. when its secured by a frame.. it fails to run for long.

[falinx101]

huh? in this configuration you have say 3 magnets in a row ie N-S-N-S-N-S configuration. But in the mylow one he is using a single magnet ie N-S. Biiiiig difference, I don't this device would ever work cause the fields are totally different. The rest of the gear looks like a very cool setup though.

[projectsnowflake]

soon my freind i will be xposeing the real truth about my fake motor humm did you see that the string is not moveing at all oh look the battery wires there are not conected. to bad no one saw that but everone thought that i had fake every thing includeing my viset to howards grave sorry for my bad spelling and i didn give up.

[bernard240vdc]

well i do not think it is possible to have a device that will give free energy like that if that is what this is about a person can obtain free energy from wind solar and things like that these systems do not create energy but extract it from things that we do not pay for wind the sun etc i will focus my efforts towards those things i am using for instance a wood stove if one uses free scrap wood then the energy is pretty well free

[anandaadhar]

You talk about what all know, but I talk about the funof dicovering a way we don't know. Indeed you have to believe in a new way in order to find one. So this indeed is for believers only. See yah...

[zaagmans1]

De sneeuw valt al weer bijna. Dus is mijn vraag: Ben je al binnen met je mylow magnetic motor? wahahahaha!

[anandaadhar]

Ik ben eruit, je komt er niet in met hem! HiiiiHihI

Ik geloof in eerlijke wetenschap met eerlijke mislukkingen. Hoe anders kom je ooit achter hoe je de ruimte moet verplaatsen ipv de lucht....

[sexualburgerking]

I'm no expert, but with all your elaborate creations you are simply turning the device with the movements of your hand. You are simply reacting to the magnetic forces you feel and essentially pushing the wheel around with a rhythm the same way you might push a child on a swing. Pushing at the right time will make the child swing extremely high. Let's see you take your body out of the equation. I admire your videos, but I feel you are turning a blind eye to the most fundamental rules.

[anandaadhar]

Not a blind eye, I just try to peek beyond these boundaries. And yes, that is not easy.

[Justinp1994]

i never really enjoyed science and stuff like that but this is fun lol

[anandaadhar]

Follow the fun!

[maryyugo]

Mylow is now an OBVIOUS fake. Howard Johnson was mistaken. Bearden is an obvious liar and con man. Bedini is at best a weirdo, totally unbalanced and unreliable. The bottom line is this: NOBODY has EVER furnished a magnetic overunity motor for proper testing by a reliable institution. There are no MIB's. If there were, they would attack and prevent the Prius, the Tesla, LENR/cold fusion research and much more. It's all paranoid bullshit and fantasy.

[anandaadhar]

If Mylow is a fake, that doean't mean that what he faked is something impossible. People are as they are, there is make-believe. It is an elusive thing, a magnet motor. We don't know how to make one. Still heisenberg said he thought it would be possible. Finsrud still has the advantage of doubt. But he is too difficult to replicate or prove false. We keep trying.

[maryyugo]

Well, Finsrud's beautiful artwork has a fairly obvious huge spring in the middle. I imagine he has to wind it every once in a while. It's like a clock. As for magnet motors, there is no more reason to believe they are possible than there is to believe that invisible pink flying unicorns are possible. I can't prove the unicorns wrong either. That doesn't mean I ever expect to encounter one. Natural laws aren't always absolute but they are useful and can't be ignored.

[anandaadhar]

Please watch my Finsrud analysis at watch?v=E9GucVwc36Q

Then comment there on Finsrud.

[Drevtoobe]

Hey Maryyugo I read your comments on the OU forum about Mylow and you ROCK. It's unfortunate that video #6 has acquired a mystique all its own. Just that is enough to give Mylow critical mass to become a Howard Johnson type legend among the "believers". I finally read a few Wattsup "technical" comments to know that he is scientifically clueless, so the circus continues.

I like you Anandaadhar, but your name is so hard to type out! lol You build pretty things for sure.

[123sakhya]

Fake alert for Mylow: see

watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw

watch?v=dORKOhwLSP4

A fish line attached to the spindle has driven de motor probably. Mylow clearly steps over the wires walking around on his glass table demo. Mylow had an 'angry' video showing his motor and dynamo. Attack would be the best defense he must have thought. This is probably the most effective OU scam ever. He's still breaking records! As a YT user he is on the run with three deleted accounts. Guilty.

[zaagmans1]

I agree.

[anandaadhar]

If Mylow is a fake, then would H. Johnson also be a fake? That is less likely and therefore these replications are still worthwile. Even someone faking might point in the right direction.... Things do get complicated this way. That is a sure thing.

[zaagmans1]

Howard Johnson NEVER had a running magnetic motor. It's not possible to, you can't change the laws of physics

[anandaadhar]

Bearden and others have witnessed it. It is ancient history before the video age. Bedini also knows about it. He has some of Howard's old equipment.

[Blndrfist]

Yes, HJ was a fake, a liar, a con. To even mention Bearden as an authority on anything credible is beyond laughable.  Bearden is another known liar. Now admit you're a believer and stop backtracking.

[anandaadhar]

I do believe that OU machines are possible, yes. I am not ashamed about it. Just because we can't do something as yet doesn't mean that it is impossible. Better talk to Bearden if you doubt his work. At least he produced a machine, just like Bedini. What have you produced? Big mouth standing by. What a heroism ....

[anandaadhar]

Dear Blndrfist, if you want respect than first learn to use the proper language, I delete everything wit the f-word in it and other offensive terms as well.

[Blndrfist]

Dear Anandaadhar, if you want respect then first learn basic physics and apply proper critical thinking to avoid being tricked by outright and obvious frauds like mylow, bendini, and bearden.

[anandaadhar]

There is nothing wrong wirh doing experiments and sharig the experience. This ex[erimenting is after claims made by several OU researchers as you mention. I find it important to learn from their experiences. I don't get tricked, because I simply don't know for sure if I can't replicate it. My means are limited so I can't check everything. But I give people the advantage of doubt while you don't. Different opinions between you and me. So be it, let it be. This is how I work. Don't patronize me.

[Blndrfist]

Sorry, but you're not being truthful. You are a believer in bendini and bearden; you even claimed that bearden made a working OU device. The benefit of the doubt has no meaning here.  When someone makes a claim that is absolutely contrary to the logical and known facts of the universe, extending that person any bit of trust stretches credulity far beyond its tolerance. In other words, such people are not worthy of a "benefit of the doubt".

[anandaadhar]

There is an error of thought with you. A breakthrough claim of science is always contrary to the presently known logic and factuality. Therefore your argument is not valid. The criterium is with the replicability. Until replicated one may give someone the benefit of doubt or not. You do not, but do not replicate yourself either. That is your good right, but I do. To my opinion you reason away your own laziness. This is my truthfulness. That is yours. Or do we claim an absolute truth here?

[Blndrfist]

Wrong, a thousand times wrong. When a claim is made that a device uproots the fundamentals of the known universe, validation of that claim starts with testing the actual device itself. Given the choice of believing someone who claims this (benefit of the doubt in your terms) or not believing him until his actual device is tested and passes, the logical choice is clear. Until then, replication is a complete waste of time.

[anandaadhar]

Not when you don't have access to the device. Then there is no other way. The urgency of the matter justifies the less favorable approach. We have to try every possible way to make this work to my opinion, and you can't talk me out of it. Why should you by the way? What do you care how I spend my time? Stop patronizing. Look another way if you don't want this. Preach to your own community.

[Blndrfist]

No, bearden DID NOT produce a machine that demonstrated "OU". He never did and never will. His claim that he did is an outright lie. Is that clear enough for you?

[anandaadhar]

I was replicated by J. Naudin.

[anandaadhar]

I =  the MEG

[Blueskyh2o]

Well done AnandAadhar, why dont you share your ideias in english? I m tired of translations by babel fish and im not sure if they are right.... :) just can not wait for your next video...

[anandaadhar]

Yes, you are right, when my own kind of people speak to me we tend to switch over to Dutch. Not very polite to the English culture as a host for this. True. I'll do my best to keep it English...thats the lingua franca at the moment.

[Cloxxki]

Ik ben ook geneigd te suggereren om een variable stator te gebruiken, gekoppeld aan de rotor. Laag en hoog wanneer dat gewenst is.

Misschien dat de aantrekking/afstoting via deze koppeling zelfs rotatiesnelheid kan beinvloeden. Indien positief, dan zeker de moeite.

Mylow's methode om magneet voor maneet te proberen en voelen, klinkt zeer plausibel, als zo'n motor al ooit zal werken. Zou je graag adviseren of vastleggen, mooi werk!

[zaagmans1]

ja en dan heb je dus weer energie nodig om die variabele stators te gebruiken en daarom werkt het niet. Kap er nou toch mee, die Mylow is een oplichter!

[anandaadhar]

Well, when a crank system for creating a dynamic stator loop is functional but not causal, that doesn't mean that the Johnson principle is refuted. Mylow apparently as for now has the advantage of doubt on this. Until we're done experimenting with this, we have to stay on this track and continue.

[zaagmans1]

Heb je je natuurkundeboek er bijgepakt? Ik zou heel graag willen dat dit werkt, maar dat kan gewoon niet. Geef nou maar op.

[anandaadhar]

Als die natuurkunde van jouw het gedrag van vliegende schotels kan verklaren, vraag je dit nog maar eens...

[anandaadhar]

Translation: If that physics of yours can explain the behavior of flying saucers, then ask this again. (Q: did you consult your physics textbook? I would very much like it to see this work, but it can't. So give up now...)

Graag vragen en opmerkingen in 't Engels jongens...

[zaagmans1]

OMG are flying saucers and aliens involved also? Hahhaha.

[anandaadhar]

All the world is involved in magnetism spinning in space with gravity. What a fun indeed!

[JavaLessons]

Carry on, doing great !

[Opdehoede]

Een van de motors van Mylow had een of en neer bewegende stator, deze motor liep hard.

Als je die stators in je hand houd bewegen ze waarschijnlijk ook op en neer. Heb je al flexibele stators geprobeerd?

En misschien magnetic shielding? Een dik ijzeren plaatje in de buurt van de stators om afstoting te verminderen.

Translation: How about flexing stators en how about magnetic shielding on strategic places?

[anandaadhar]

Het vibreren vraagt ook weer energie,maar het benadert meer het idee van het onzekerheidsprincipe. Zo'n motor wordt kwantummehansch verklaard en dan krijg je dat principe ook. Maar mijn tests tot nu toe toonden geen extra effect op feedbacksystemen die de stator lieten meervibreren. HJ in ieder geval had ze niet, dus dat valt buiten het replicatieproject.

Transl.: vibration takes energy, no effect found for this quanutmmechanical uncertainty of use with these machines. Its another project.

[Opdehoede]

Replicators:

excel60 Seacrhing2008 tausenti QueueContinuum carbonccc Eltimple

rdelos1disequade anandaadhar chorianopoulos2002 joe1001101

empireofmotion Batgold Upuauta coronasensei TheRickoff

[Patiencelad]

Hi AnandAadhar,

Thanks for posting. I'm sure Mylow is encouraged by this posting.

Great job! You seem to be very close. Keep it up!

PL

[sparkyrocky12131963]

this is mylows brother looks like you are getting the right idea dont give up

this technology will solve the worlds

hunger for oil.

[magneticmotor1]

you are v ery close on finding the secrete of the snow flake.

[magneticmotor1]

you have it my frieand not all motor are the same.

[Blndrfist]

I thought most people realized that Mylow was a con? People are actually trying to reproduce his bullshit? It is impossible to follow Mylow's instructions exactly and make a working model because he has not told you the most important instruction of all; where to position the hidden external power supply that makes his nonsense work.

[magneticmotor1]

yeh i am what i am you overunity guffball.

[anandaadhar]

I suggest that people not believing look another way. Only believing in resuts will lead to results. How else should we progress?

[Blndrfist]

Wrong fool. "Believing" in results only leads to bias and delusion. The whole point is to not "believe" in the results and demand proof. It has now been shown that Mylow was just another cheap OU con; in this case, "believing" in results got you con'd and made a fool of you.

[Blndrfist]

I am not a overunity believer idiot. Try again with a better insult this time. Mylow's bullshit has been shown for the fraud it was.

[anandaadhar]

Spare me the bad words, I get your point without them too. I know the demand of Popper to refute your own theory. What do you think I am doing here? The only way to do this is to try you know... There's nothing foolish about possibly debunking a false claim with this kind of set up. Honestly I myself am convinced that a single basic force like magnetism can never deliver energy. At least two forces are needed and inertial force isn't doing that secondary part. That's it thus far.

[Blndrfist]

Your demeanor and actions show you to be a believer.  Just have the courage to admit you are; your friends at OU think so too.

[anandaadhar]

Should I be ashamed to believe in what I do?

[Blndrfist]

Yep.

[anandaadhar]

Lol

[therealtruthtold]

Yes if its magnets that are not a one way force..

[anandaadhar]

In fact experiments with magnetic sliding on aluminum, copper and zinc plates prove the south side of magnets to produce drag while the noth side doesn't. So there is an inequality in the force effects of magnets......what are your thoughts about that?

[therealtruthtold]

Youre in a religion and its very dangerous. I know a man that blacked out and ran off the road while driving after dwelling on this for years....

[anandaadhar]

This? What do you mean? What's religious about experimenting? Do it yourself: slide a magnet down a ramp of copper, zinc or aluminum and notice the difference between the poles sliding depending the angle. No religion involved here. Straight science experiment proving magnet polarity non-symetrical against the present paradigm. See discussion at:

watch?v=iRtJsYVSswo

[anandaadhar]

You confuse belief in yourself and in your experiment with religion. Religion is not experimenting, it is dogmatic. What are you now? Dogmatic?

[Drevtoobe]

Yes, that was an accidental "discovery" made by someone in the Mylow discussion group and it has been replicated.

However, I can tell you with absolute certainty, with metaphysical certitude, that there is no difference between the North and South poles in a magnet. So how do you explain the effect?

This is where real science can be explored. The challenge is to figure out the explanation for the effect. The assumption is that there must be a logical explanation, and go forward from there.

[Drevtoobe]

I don't know what the explanation is, but there must be one, and it is certainly not because there is a difference between the two poles. That is a classic mistake made by the free energy community - observe a phenomenon and fit it into a favourable belief system. "Now I know the poles are not symmetrical I can somehow use this to my advantage to produce over unity".

It could have something to do with the roughness of the two surfaces, the crystal polarization of the metal, I don't know.

[anandaadhar]

Surface effects are ruled out. One simple explanation is that the magnetic field is factually dynamic, there is a flow of gravitons maybe going from nortth to south that delivers drag at the one side and no drag at the other pole of the magnet when permeable material with a different sensitivity for the direction of gravitons is opposed. It is theory of course, Gravitons are protomaterial and may be measured this way. But that's what I think. Hierarchical Quantum Theory is what I believe in.

[Drevtoobe]

A couple of things. Many times enthusiasts make reference to sun-atomic quantum effects to objects that are on a human macro scale, that makes no sense. Do you know the formula to calculate gravitational attraction? All gravity effects are way too small and can be ignored. Also, you are discussion gravitons with pseudo scientific terminology. The theory is that the mass of the magnet would be exchanging gravitons back and forth with the metal plate, that gives you the gravitational force.

[Drevtoobe]

I have a theory for you. Assume the disk magnets are manufactured by putting the hot disk up against the end of a powerful electromagnet. The electromagnet jolts the disk with an intense magnetic field and they quench the disk to a lower temperature and it retains the magnetism. If this is true the magnetic polarization of the disk will not be perfectly parallel, the lines of force will have a slight conical shape through the body of the disk magnet.

[Drevtoobe]

If this is true, then one side of the disk will have slightly higher magnetic flux density than the other side. For almost all applications this is irrelevant. None the less, the magnetic field lines are denser on one side of the disk, there is a slight asymmetry.

When the disk slides down the metal plate there is what looks like a twisting swirl of eddy currents in the metal plate that turn in a clockwise or counterclockwise direction, depending on which pole is facing downwards.

[Drevtoobe]

The eddy currents cause a force vector on the falling disk. Some of that force vector slows down the disk, and some of that force vector bushes the disk away from the plate, (aka the 'normal' force) trying to push the disk "up" and away from the plate.

With the very steep falling angle, perhaps the side of the disk magnet with the higher flux density experiences more normal force, and gets pushed away from the metal plate.

Note all explained with conventional magnetic theory.

[anandaadhar]

The non-symmetry is not in the plate it is in the magnet. Your theory was refuted. Study Tinselkoala's video's on this. And yes of course it is all fringe science speudo like speculation until it has been thoroughly corroborated by controlled studies of official institutions etc. But these guys suffer the psychology of a failing paradigm. That is where I come in.

[anandaadhar]

There is nothing wrong with speculation for the cause. Even though I am not a physcist, I just try to understand the matter at hand, try to find closure in my research and serve the cause. But at the front of progress closure means a new paradigm, a new century and a new world with a new mankind. That is a big thing, not just my thing.

[Drevtoobe]

I agree a change in paradigm is a big thing. That's why the simple observing of asymmetry in the way a magnet slides down a metal plate is not enough evidence to change the paradigm. I my long theory above I speculate that there is asymmetry in the disk magnet. Anyway I compliment you on the need to get any theory corroborated. My recommendation is to continue experiments with the assumption that the actual fields N/S behave the same way.

[anandaadhar]

That is my mindset at the moment, the nonsymmetry effect might be responsible in the end with a working machine, but as yet the contribution is entirely theoretical.

[3decimal14]

You have some magnets in your hand very close to the wheel. You disturbe the force!

[anandaadhar]

So?

[maryyugo]

--comment continued

You will be surprised by the result. The spindown time will always be shorter with the stators than without. The stators do not propel the disc-- they actually slow it down. Don't believe it? Do the test with care and prove me wrong

[anandaadhar]

Why don't you try to refute your thesis? I have my own refutations to do....

[maryyugo]

A suggestion:

Please get a tachometer. They're inexpensive and available at any electronics store. Spin up your disc to a specified RPM with the stators in position. Measure the spindown time with a timer. Repeat the experiment **without** the stator magnets -- leave everything the same but remove the stators.

[anandaadhar]

As soon as the spin down without magnets is shorter than with them you have indeed very quickly a selfrunner!

[RBare2007]

Watched your video to the end, interested, firstly you influence the disk by hold magnets in unsteady hands and make no mistake they will be unsteady when the magnets are repulsing/attracting, then you continue to show your demonstration with both magnets in your hand down on your lap but still close enough to influence the magnets on the disk, I hope you take this as friendly criticism and realize the error in your demonstration.

[anandaadhar]

Putting them more than 10 cm away doesn't really do much, otherwise you would have seen far more exotic configurations! But yes sometime I forget I put some magnets underneath the disc on the table etc. You must watch that. True.

[Cloxxki]

Not a lto fo torque it seems, but you're getting more from it that I've seen from any other replicators so far!

Very, very promising towards a confirmed replication, keep up the excellent work!

[wattsup1004]

Hello;

Please identify the metal type of your long threaded shafts. If they are regular metal this should not be put vertically near the rotors since they will cause attraction. Good work though. Keep trying.

[anandaadhar]

Nonmagnetic stainless steel. Of course.

[marthale7]

I think you have done great work, the problem with the hand it adds motion to the setup. ( slight shakes in the hand ) I understand what you say you have to work with what is at hand. Others are trying with bicycle wheels.

[slinky460]

Looks good. You may be on to something.

Please keep going. It is a big disc, you may need more stator magnets.

Thank you for showing your work.

[PESNetwork]

good luck; keep going -- Sterling

[tausenti]

Cool! Great job, thanks for sharing

[moonreft]

Glad to see you come around. I always enjoyed your work.

[anandaadhar]

You're welcome..

[holmesjtg]

Nice work. My suggestion is to build two stator supports so that you can offset each side and still align them to the edge of the disk.

[anandaadhar]

Yes there are so many ways.....

[carbonccc]

Very good job. We can see the scaring of labor on your disk. This stuff just takes time and patience.

[anandaadhar]

Yeah i'm becoming a real crop circle designer....

[afdhalatifftan92]

Can't wait to see more!!

[ivanilia]

This is very promising anand :)

Good tips btw. With the zinc...

You were using pvc and ? You didnt finifsh your sentence. What kind of bearings do you have?

Do you know a shop where to get the zinc and bearings? I live in maastricht btw ;-)

groetjes

[anandaadhar]

...and two skate board ball bearings. O ja en beste Nederlander, zo'n plaat moet je tegenop lopen. Ik vond hem bij mijn vriendin op zolder die de zinken plaat gebruikte om te aquarelleren. Ze had er moeite voor gedaan dat zink te pakken te krijgen ergens. Maar als je een adresje weet....effe zoeken dus. Het is in ieder geval niets zeldzaams of duurs.

[ivanilia]

Bedankt anand.

Have you checked message number 1305 on yahoogroups? Er staat op welke manier mylow zijn magneten test onder de stator voordat hij ze plakt. Ik kan het nog niet uitproberen omdat ik de spullen nog niet heb. Maar ik vond dat een erg heldere uitleg die zeker het proberen waard is.

Fijne zondag

ivan

[anandaadhar]

O ja zink kan je makkelijk krijgen van dakdekkers en loodgieters....

[johnfarmingdale]

Try it will just one stator, Good job as danlabarre said you are so close, and everyone can see taht it can be done and he is totally right.

[danlabarre]

you are so close, everyone can see that it can be done. You have one more subscriber.

[Opdehoede]

Goed werk, great job.

Best one ive seen outside of Mylows place so far.

[apezak]

nice one! Keep it up! your effords are appreciated.

[mochiam]

well done