I hate to say it but its wasted research as you have no idea what qauntities of compounds where used at whatever manufacturer, and the fact that paintballs deteriorate over time, aswell as with any manufacturing process, its never absolutely perfect. Chances are it could be a poor seal or thin shell wall. Its common knowledge that cheaper paint breaks more. Why? Id say its likely to be the above mentioned points, especially manufacturing tolerance.
I think that your glass barrel might be too small for the ball. The ball might also be out if shape, and thus cause the ball to rub along the side of the barrel or in this case break due to the speed of the paintball. The humidity temperature may effect the size of the ball and you may need different barrels for certain weather conditions. Nice Experiment and GREAT footage.
ok its fucking paintballl. who cares if a ball breaks. people are so obsessed with it that they have to go do a test on it and a diagnosis on how the ball breaks. if a ball breaks its not a big deal.
To some people it is a really big deal. Some poeple do this for a living and when their is 120 thousand dollars on the line or a hummer like at the Spider World series paintball tournament. They would like to know the likeliness of a paintball breaking in their individual barel. I play just for fun. But some people play for a living. And I think it would be awesome to play for a living.
I like to be more accurate with less paint... than spray and pray! so yeah, that one ball, could have been a headshot on one of my victims. I DO CARE about that ONE ball lol
It is very important and it is a big deal. a barrelbreak is not a good thing, not for professional players nor for fun players. If u have a barrelbreak in the field, u gonna have to take the barrel off, clean it, screw back on. It costs time, and lots of it when u r in the game. So the chance is big u gonna get hit....hmmm no fun.
@jackscagnetty ....a squeegee works much better than a swab....a swab just jams the paint into your breach. They're pretty pointless. Plus they're all gunky after you use them and they pick up dirt and such. Squeegees clean ALL the paint out, and then you can easily swing the paint off by whipping it around or wipe it. It is a pain to take your barrel off in a speedball match, and definitely not recommended.
@TyVan11 I don't even remember what I've written, I agree that a squeegee is better though, I've never used the swab before and don't really see their use, if they even have one.
In the weeks leading to a big meet with friends (once every few months about 20-30 of us go out....) i find myself watching tv with my marker and a squeegee. i practice taking the barrel off, cleaning it and replacing it. When you do it enough, it becomes almost second nature, and it only take s15-20 seconds to do well. That's what works for me, just my 0.02$
If u dont clean your barrel, that broken ball is gonna screw up all the shots u make afterwords. and the frustration of not being able to hit any1 at even 10 meters away is gonna kill the fun of the game. And he uses glas because most of the expensieve barrels r made of carbon fiber and have a glas finnish.
dumb ass if a ball breaks then every other ball shooting out ur gun is guna curve or go straight into the ground until u clean the barrel. its very important to not have barrel breaks
Thanks for understanding and appreciating it. If you want to check out more stuff and get into it in detail please check out the new forum on my website.
my Dm5 with the newer edition of the DYE barrels keeps doing it quite often, say once every practise:p but never with torunament balls,, so its practiseballs thats been manhandled or just had a flaw... in my oppinion anyways
haha unfortunatly i dont think we can bet on it but yeah i dont not belive yu (double negative) i just dont understand why yu wouldnt get a new detent
maybe you dont understand that ironicly is an adverb and that sentance isnt complete and yes i did get that it was just you talking but this is the internet and theres millions of morons that do what you did but mean it seriously
bad paint = barrel breaks we use shit paint we touch it with our hands stuff it into pods run around with it bouncing around dump it into our hopper smash it around in our hoppers have it forced down into the breech either cyclone or electric hopper hit it with a bolt burst of air down a barrel thats what happens, you get less with good paintballs
are you familiar with a concept called "ball chopping"? that is when the gun is fired before the ball has finished falling into the firing chamber and the bolt is pushed forward with the paintball halfway between the wall and the top of the bolt causing the ball to literally be "chopped" in half. consider that, make a video of it if you want, and tell us what you think
The ball is broken at it's entry to, or before it actually enters the barrel. Most "barrel breaks" appear to be caused by issues before they enter the barrel itself.
The ball in this video was clipped by the top of the breech. You can see the slight smudge at the top of the breech even though the majority of the paint is spread out further down the barrel.
sure. We've been in conversation with Jack Wood from Plant Eclipse. We're getting to the point where we're really having a hard time creating a "true" barrel break. It seems that everything we run into involves damage to the ball during the loading / cambering cycle - this information really backs that idea up. Thanks.
my theory on a ball break is if you keep your barrel clean and possibly put a little bit of oil in the barrel the ball wont break because the ball will not stick to the sides of the barrel, i do that and i never have barrel breaks. look in to the idea of ball chopping, i have left a comment on that describing what it is
i have never done it and i dont want to use my own barrel but all my field techs and mike from techpb tell u to never do that or put lube in your barrel threads
idk my flatline will fuckup with it cuz of the like grains that put the backspin on the ball but, idk i cant express my opinion seeing how im a nooby rec-baller that has 1 gun and never used anything else
i think i've had one of those on my BT4 with opsgear m4 barrel 16". paint was only on the barrel for the last inch, i have no idea how it happened, and so far that's the only break i've had since i got my BT, i'm asuming the ball was slightly larger or deformed compared to the others and as it ran down the barrel it caused too much friction and burst.
Its really hard to tell what is happening because it appears it breaks under the clamp. Could you provide a video showing it at a slower frame rate or possibly frame by frame to see what is happening?
Hey LordOdin, not sure if you saw Simons comment later on but it looks like the paintball either broke right as it came out or was damaged before it even entered the barrel. You can see a small amount of paint on the top of the barrel before the ring and explosion.
this is what I do to your mom every night.... splooge!
ZeusofSean 5 months ago
i play with led based paints because i hate everyone of those little fucking kids who drive by and paintball me
mw2Glitching360 7 months ago
ale żal
machaszi 9 months ago
were would you even get a glass barrel and how much would it cost cuase i want to show up to my range and ppl go " that looks awesome "
TheWrongsystem 1 year ago
I was wondering if a paintball hits the sides of a barrels a few times when traveling down a barrel.
ModMongrels 1 year ago
I hate to say it but its wasted research as you have no idea what qauntities of compounds where used at whatever manufacturer, and the fact that paintballs deteriorate over time, aswell as with any manufacturing process, its never absolutely perfect. Chances are it could be a poor seal or thin shell wall. Its common knowledge that cheaper paint breaks more. Why? Id say its likely to be the above mentioned points, especially manufacturing tolerance.
JestaZX6R 1 year ago
Do they make a glass or a plexi barrel for like general sale ? if so i need one that would be a awesome set up
ddog3492 1 year ago
I think that your glass barrel might be too small for the ball. The ball might also be out if shape, and thus cause the ball to rub along the side of the barrel or in this case break due to the speed of the paintball. The humidity temperature may effect the size of the ball and you may need different barrels for certain weather conditions. Nice Experiment and GREAT footage.
El3v8 1 year ago
paintball paint is water based. correct?
FuckEmoFags92 1 year ago
Anyone who wants to know just ask tom kay from AGD. He did this shit over 14 years ago and it hasn't changed.
MvGogh 1 year ago
Somethings have changed. The high end paint now is a LOT more fragile than it was back when Tom did all of his testing.
manike99 1 year ago 3
i have never chopped or had a barrel break in my ego7 w/ lucky barrel
leave dwell stock
have good batteries
leave eyes on
no problems
i did chop in my pm7 ramping w/ eyes off- but i had the same barrel and it CLEAN ITSELF! haha lucky barrels are awsome
p8ntballcracker 2 years ago
ohhhhhhhhhh nooooo not a barrelbreak, everyone call ollie lang and the pros and tell them that a ball broke
cris6474 2 years ago 2
David Brent does paintball?
activedentalfloss 2 years ago
you don't need to decide weather a person needs to buy a 1200$ gun i have a 1400$ gun and i love it a lot more than my old 400$ gun!
attackRus 2 years ago
Anti Climax........... the whole breaking of the paintball was rather depressing. i was expecting something a little more impressive
mavrick2210 2 years ago 2
ok its fucking paintballl. who cares if a ball breaks. people are so obsessed with it that they have to go do a test on it and a diagnosis on how the ball breaks. if a ball breaks its not a big deal.
dahmikeman 2 years ago
To some people it is a really big deal. Some poeple do this for a living and when their is 120 thousand dollars on the line or a hummer like at the Spider World series paintball tournament. They would like to know the likeliness of a paintball breaking in their individual barel. I play just for fun. But some people play for a living. And I think it would be awesome to play for a living.
misanthroposy 2 years ago 16
it can be a big deal, it could screw up many different things, but really how likely is that.
inkbot2000 2 years ago
I like to be more accurate with less paint... than spray and pray! so yeah, that one ball, could have been a headshot on one of my victims. I DO CARE about that ONE ball lol
scotch211 2 years ago
It is very important and it is a big deal. a barrelbreak is not a good thing, not for professional players nor for fun players. If u have a barrelbreak in the field, u gonna have to take the barrel off, clean it, screw back on. It costs time, and lots of it when u r in the game. So the chance is big u gonna get hit....hmmm no fun.
mortalsting 2 years ago
@mortalsting They make barrel squeegees for that sort of thing, there's no need to take the barrel off the gun during a game.
jackscagnetty 2 years ago
@jackscagnetty ....a squeegee works much better than a swab....a swab just jams the paint into your breach. They're pretty pointless. Plus they're all gunky after you use them and they pick up dirt and such. Squeegees clean ALL the paint out, and then you can easily swing the paint off by whipping it around or wipe it. It is a pain to take your barrel off in a speedball match, and definitely not recommended.
TyVan11 1 year ago
@TyVan11 I don't even remember what I've written, I agree that a squeegee is better though, I've never used the swab before and don't really see their use, if they even have one.
jackscagnetty 1 year ago
In the weeks leading to a big meet with friends (once every few months about 20-30 of us go out....) i find myself watching tv with my marker and a squeegee. i practice taking the barrel off, cleaning it and replacing it. When you do it enough, it becomes almost second nature, and it only take s15-20 seconds to do well. That's what works for me, just my 0.02$
tucsondog 2 years ago
If u dont clean your barrel, that broken ball is gonna screw up all the shots u make afterwords. and the frustration of not being able to hit any1 at even 10 meters away is gonna kill the fun of the game. And he uses glas because most of the expensieve barrels r made of carbon fiber and have a glas finnish.
mortalsting 2 years ago
dumb ass if a ball breaks then every other ball shooting out ur gun is guna curve or go straight into the ground until u clean the barrel. its very important to not have barrel breaks
shocker426 2 years ago
have u ever thought that ur barrel has a glass shard in it
intolerationdeer 2 years ago
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this was the gayest video ever!
shootwish 2 years ago
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Redmaddness2 2 years ago
There has to be like a thousand variables i feel bad for you haha
deathrme 2 years ago
wow
muttboy2 2 years ago
cool videos man , keep them coming , and ignore all the haters who are mad cuz you know more about paintball than them !! :)
ContractKilla43 2 years ago
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Whats the point of this??? I dont get your logic.
JamesBond007Mrcool 2 years ago
i support you!
psps3psn 2 years ago
Should rename this video "Guy rambles on and then something happens for about a second."
gorflunk 2 years ago 16
That would be pretty amusing, but I try to keep my descriptions a little more relevant. :-)
I realize not all of my videos are for everyone. :-)
Feel free to skip the sciency videos if they aren't your thing. :)
manike99 2 years ago
I think it's really interesting.
MMAFreak941 2 years ago
@manike99 Its a good vid! TY for the work showing us what happends in slow motion. This is not something just anyone can run out and video for us..
Rhophein 1 year ago
Thanks for understanding and appreciating it. If you want to check out more stuff and get into it in detail please check out the new forum on my website.
Thanks
Simon
manike99 1 year ago
you can see it wobble and then stretch
LAprodigyPBteam 2 years ago
Dude. STOP. TALKING!
gloom303 2 years ago
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soccerguy2433 2 years ago
tht pree cool;
xGUSBUSx 2 years ago
holy shit he has a glass barrel
DM6rules 2 years ago 3
my Dm5 with the newer edition of the DYE barrels keeps doing it quite often, say once every practise:p but never with torunament balls,, so its practiseballs thats been manhandled or just had a flaw... in my oppinion anyways
TroX3r 2 years ago
you need a new Detend =P
dustyn1986 3 years ago
detent...and that still wouldnt change the paintball breakin in the barrel...if it broke on the detent then it would look alot more like a chop
MurKdAMAsK3 3 years ago
if you got a bad ass detend on ONE side i bet 100 Bucks you get a lot of barrel breaks , got the problem on my ul pmr backup.
dustyn1986 3 years ago
haha unfortunatly i dont think we can bet on it but yeah i dont not belive yu (double negative) i just dont understand why yu wouldnt get a new detent
MurKdAMAsK3 3 years ago
because it was an ironicly?! posting.but you dont understand that ..
dustyn1986 3 years ago
maybe you dont understand that ironicly is an adverb and that sentance isnt complete and yes i did get that it was just you talking but this is the internet and theres millions of morons that do what you did but mean it seriously
MurKdAMAsK3 3 years ago
just get a good bore match
redneck666l 3 years ago
zakmasur35 3 years ago
are you familiar with a concept called "ball chopping"? that is when the gun is fired before the ball has finished falling into the firing chamber and the bolt is pushed forward with the paintball halfway between the wall and the top of the bolt causing the ball to literally be "chopped" in half. consider that, make a video of it if you want, and tell us what you think
ariapro7 3 years ago
apparently the shell stuck or jammed in the barrel and the air put pressure behind it forcing it so the paint ripped through the barrel
lnknprkfn213 3 years ago
yeah thats what im thinking, perhaps if it were slowed down a bit we might find out
ariapro7 3 years ago
Hey Simon, Bryce Larson here - I work with Gordon on the PunkWorks stuff.
How far into the barrel is the break?
brycelarson 3 years ago
It's at the beginning. The ball is usually broken before you start seeing most of the paint streaks in the barrel.
manike99 3 years ago
sorry, maybe I was unclear - how far into the barrel did the break event happen? .5", .75", 1", 2"?
I'm looking for an idea about whether the break happened right as the air blast hit the ball - or after accelleration has started?
brycelarson 3 years ago
Sorry, I've been really busy!
The ball is broken at it's entry to, or before it actually enters the barrel. Most "barrel breaks" appear to be caused by issues before they enter the barrel itself.
The ball in this video was clipped by the top of the breech. You can see the slight smudge at the top of the breech even though the majority of the paint is spread out further down the barrel.
manike99 3 years ago
sure. We've been in conversation with Jack Wood from Plant Eclipse. We're getting to the point where we're really having a hard time creating a "true" barrel break. It seems that everything we run into involves damage to the ball during the loading / cambering cycle - this information really backs that idea up. Thanks.
brycelarson 3 years ago
I agree with that theory.
What's a "true barrel break"? Do you have a definition?
I agree that for the vast majority of occurrences, breaks in the barrel are caused at, or before, the ball enters the beginning of the barrel.
manike99 3 years ago
my theory on a ball break is if you keep your barrel clean and possibly put a little bit of oil in the barrel the ball wont break because the ball will not stick to the sides of the barrel, i do that and i never have barrel breaks. look in to the idea of ball chopping, i have left a comment on that describing what it is
ariapro7 3 years ago
if u put oil in ur barrel ur shots will be so inaccurate
aimvirus84 3 years ago
can you please post a video showing this because i put oil in my barrel and my gun's accuracy is great.
ariapro7 3 years ago
i have never done it and i dont want to use my own barrel but all my field techs and mike from techpb tell u to never do that or put lube in your barrel threads
aimvirus84 3 years ago
well mine works great so maybe you just have a low quality barrel
ariapro7 3 years ago
idk my flatline will fuckup with it cuz of the like grains that put the backspin on the ball but, idk i cant express my opinion seeing how im a nooby rec-baller that has 1 gun and never used anything else
outsider786 2 years ago
well dont think you cant express your opinion man. i highly suggest persuing a hobby in paintball, what kind of gun do you have?
ariapro7 2 years ago
i got an A-5, recently got an e-grip too
outsider786 2 years ago
nice dude, i, personally, dont care too much for the A-5 because, to me, it seems like just a gun. but thats just my opinion
ariapro7 2 years ago
Ill try it at the weekend? Check my channel
PaintballTeamOxYGeN 3 years ago
i think i've had one of those on my BT4 with opsgear m4 barrel 16". paint was only on the barrel for the last inch, i have no idea how it happened, and so far that's the only break i've had since i got my BT, i'm asuming the ball was slightly larger or deformed compared to the others and as it ran down the barrel it caused too much friction and burst.
BringerOfD 3 years ago
you know hes right cuz he has the accsent
oggieboogie123 3 years ago
funny how that ring blocks the view, MUST BE THE RING!!!!
Cursed ring of broken paint
pumpSHO 3 years ago
amazing video Simon.
pyrothereddragon 3 years ago
cool stuff
orhybrid 3 years ago
I believe there is some magical property emanating from the finger tip.
HarbTG 3 years ago
Its really hard to tell what is happening because it appears it breaks under the clamp. Could you provide a video showing it at a slower frame rate or possibly frame by frame to see what is happening?
LordOdin2008 3 years ago
Hey LordOdin, not sure if you saw Simons comment later on but it looks like the paintball either broke right as it came out or was damaged before it even entered the barrel. You can see a small amount of paint on the top of the barrel before the ring and explosion.
Great video Simon, thanks for sharing!
sunthief79 2 years ago 2
Simon, do you think it is more due to excelleration, deformation, friction, or a combination of more than one?
secretweaponevan 3 years ago
All of the above, and more.
There really are a lot of reasons and details that can cause one gun to break more paint than another.
I'll see you at Waynes World for the Grand Finale, or maybe at EMR if you still make it up there. :)
manike99 3 years ago
Sounds great! Always a great time hanging out with you.
I let the wife know that a condition of me moving was flying back for Castles. :)
secretweaponevan 3 years ago
Smart man. ;)
manike99 3 years ago
Nice vid Simon
HarbTG 3 years ago
watching this closely...
paintballtechpb 3 years ago
yup, that splatter pattern is something we noticed in all of our barrel breaks.
gerglmuff 3 years ago
Good vid fella! i hope your going to expand on this in a later vid, you have me interested =]
darthsmidge 3 years ago