Don't forget, this is all the result of American missionaries invading African cultures. forcing their religious views (mixed w/ their conservative politics) onto the locals. This is the result. Ppl who are perceived as gay are being attacked & killed. Plus the witch hunts. Africans killing their own children b/c they might be using "black magic". This is the fruit of Xtian missionary work. & are any of them taking responsibility? Are they doing anything to reverse the damage they caused? Nah.
wait...this is to protect the children? yeah cus gays are running around beheading everyone. not the military. not the corrupt government. not the straight people. they must have a lot of gay people if the gays can play such a major role in fucking up Uganda.
the Bible can be used to justify slavery, Uganda. According to Leviticus 25:44-46 I am well with my rights to capture & enslave Ugandans and treat them as property...... You want to start using the Bible to justify hate, fear & ignorance and mistreatment of others...be careful what you wish for.
@samthor In context this passage comes in the era slavery was permissible and very much legal, permissible , widely practised and accepted by majority of people, not just by the isrealites but by also surrounding nations.In the broader context if you read philemon 1:10-18 , it talks about paul asking for pardon for a runaway slave and also asking for the status of servitude to be removed ! Christianity does not condone slavery and its a futile attempt to justify what God sees as despicable.
@justfourthen Bullshit. it's just picking & choosing for your own agenda. If they're going to use the Bible to justify persecution of gays, then i want slaves. If they can cherry pick the Bible, so can I. I want divorce outlawed and people arrested for getting haircuts. I want snake handling and speaking in tongues taught in school. Can't have it both ways. If slavery is "outdated thing of the past" then so is the anti- gay passages. Hypocrites.
@samthor Its not picking and choosing , its about the misinterpretation of the scriptures to argue your fragile point.Divorce in Christianity is permissible only on the grounds of infidelity, the bible is not against haircuts!! Snake handling!!?? (what are you on about)? Speaking in tongues is not THOUGHT , it comes naturally under the guidance of the holy spirit.You can go and embark on an enslavement spree but it would not be under any biblical basis,its just to gratify your conscience
@justfourthen Hair cuts- Leviticus 20:27 Snake handling- Mark 16:17-18 & Luke 10:19. Try to use the Bible to justify homophobia? (try actually reading it first) I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy. You can try to interpret and justify the slavery passages to your advantage. So what? So can I. This is why you can't base laws on scriptural interpretation. This is why church must be separated from the state. People are actually dying & suffering because of this church spewed hate.
@samthor I suggest you read (1 Corithinans 6 :9-11) where it depicts clearly what kind of people are likely not to go to heaven. And in the list homosexuals are included. Leviticus 20:27 does not talk about hair cuts but about consulting mediums! -"Any man or woman who consults the spirits of the death shall be stoned to death...". The latter scripture does entice Christians to start touching snakes or drinking poisons , but in case they harmed by any mentioned .they will not be harmed.
@justfourthen My bad. Lev 19: 27. I suggest you read Samuel 1 & 2 which is two entire chapters of the Bible devoted to a love story between 2 men. David loved Jonathan more than women. And then try to explain it away. Oh this passage is misinterpreted and outdated. That passage means something else entirely. Well guess what? all the supposed anti- gay passages are outdated and misinterpreted!
@samthor To explain away 90-95% of the Bible and then demand constitutional amendments and laws based on a few scant passages that have been translated & interpreted a certain way is bullshit hypocrisy. Remember we are talking about "KILL the gays" here. Where is the outrage over "thou shall not kill"? I'm sure that can be conveniently explained away as well. If heaven exists, there's way more gays in attendance than religious hypocrites.
@samthor I agree with you that , "killing the gays" is over the top, I believe Jesus "would have reproached the gays and told them to - go and sin no more-. Once they are consenting adults its their choice - on judgement day I believe each man will answer and be judged on his/her account , its not for any man to condemn anyone to death, unless it has breached a "countries laws( which excludes homosexuality)" and gone through a fair judicial process.
@samthor I knew this was going to come soon!!! Jonathan and David were just very good friends and there is no evidence to suggest that their relationship was sexual , in fact, David loved women so much, even in his old age!!! ,he had four wives and even slept with someone's wife !!! Jonathan had wives as well and children , one of which David spared as he was a cripple to show the bond of their friendship!
@justfourthen The word "homosexual" did not even appear in the Bible until 1946. In fact, my copy of 1 Cor 6:9-11 says nothing about homosexuals and instead uses the word "sexual perverts" which could very well be heterosexuals. If we go back to the original writing the word is "arsenokoites" which could be translated in a number of ways; "male prostitute" for one example. Which again makes any and all of these anti- gay passages outdated and misinterpreted as the passages about owning slaves.
@justfourthen I'm implying that the way the Ugandans are using the Bible to justify persecution and executing gays or anyone perceived as gay is wrong. People have used the Bible to justify slavery, and burning witches and all sorts of evil and unjust nonsense in the past. This is no different. Trying to defend how "sinful" homosexuality only supports the persecution. All the Ugandan deaths, all the persecution abroad and even kids bullied to death here in the states is the result.
@mista901895 So why is the bible being used as a teed wrench for such issues when you yourself admit that it doesn't sufficiently cover areas such as pedophilia and incest
He respects the views of America? More like he respects our money... we need to leave these Neanderthals in the dark ages and move our own country forward.
Today Oct 14 2011, Obama has decided to aid "Uganda Peoples Defence Force" in its war against the 'Lords Resistance Army" both violators of human rights. Torture continues to be a widespread practice among both armies. Attacks on political freedom in the country, including the arrest and beating of opposition Members of Parliament is not uncommon. What will be Obama's excuse now? Save the gays? oops, no. The fanatic religious Ugandan ruling class that Obama is supporting wants to kill them.
@willtsichkestudios its not murder when you are killing in the name of god. its one of those great loop holes you find in religions that are more about controlling people and giving power to the church, more then it is about spiritual enlightenment.
@bachmann4president, your being subhuman stems from your being mentally and morally defective; your being a flaming sodomite is not the problem. I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
Dumbass Africans talk about how homosexuality is something that comes from the western world yet you read a bible that comes from the western world that was used to opress your own people. Thats how you can tell black people are fucked in the head.
@nyncblue Beyond the racism in your comment, I just want to comment that he actually was educated in the Western World! Cardiff University, UPenn, Masters in University of Wales.. All that good stuff. I'm even more appalled that someone as 'educated' as him can be so ignorant.
@runningchocolate Well I myself am black and infact my dad is from Ghana so if I sound racist towards my own race then so be it. There are times where I really feel the need to say something about my own people and I strongly feel that what I said was right. Secondly your appaled at his ingnorance because of his education. One thing I've learned is that you can go to the top universities in the world and become a rocket scientist but still say and do some ignorant things.
@nyncblue Thank you for your nice response. You don't know how hard and rare it is to get a nice, civil response to comments here. Yes, I agree to many things you've mentioned - I do know that we're usually harder on our own people/culture because we expect a lot more from them. And that ignorance, unfortunately, seems to be something that plagues people from all walks of life. I would have hoped that it's curable by education, but alas! Have a great day! :)
i have soo much respect for rachel, he doesnt answer questions at all, she is so patient, i would be fuming after a interview like that. idk how she does it but i love her for it
He speaks of "God's Law". Clearly Christianity, imposed upon Africa by European conquerors and forced upon slaves brought to the Americas. He is so lost and has lost his own roots of religion. What a dumb fuck.
He is a dumb fuck. I never understood that about Africans, black Americans, Mayans, and other cultures destroyed by Christianity, why would you believe in a religion that killed you, destroyed your culture and history. I get so frustrated with these people.
Rachel missed the opportunity to articulate the following basic challenge to Bahati's argument: if "homosexual recruitment" of Ugandan children is the problem, then why doesn't the law focus on those alleged activities directly and exclusively, instead of persecuting private, adult, consensual relationships? How are the latter relevant to the former? Then, of course, she would've had to keep her thumb on Bahati to stop him from squirming out of that one (which she is more than capable of doing)!
@eleguaaugele, exactly my thoughts. I was very interesting to see him squirm out of the question of why not focus on the exact activity rather than the sexual orientation of an entire culture. Imagine if there was a death penalty for religious people recruiting children in schools.
@LloydChristmas777: I wouldn't exactly put religious procelytizers to death, but sending them on a one-way mission to Antarctica to save penguin souls sounds like a great idea... ;-)
Why is is so hard for some people to understand that being gay and being a pedophile is not the same thing? Is it really so fucking hard to understand?!
anyone "defending family tradition" is likely to be.... how do I put this nicely.... dumb as dog shit. This could be a good thing. A couple of photoshopped images could get all of these assholes executed for the very crimes they created! In fact, I believe this is the exact plan that should be put into effect. Just add their faces to a big gay group sex scene, and send it to a bunch (all) of their publications.
Firstly this guy is foolishhhhh. I am a believer of God....and it is because of some Christians who look at religion RATHER than looking at the true teachings of God, become single minded and not seek the wisdom and knowledge of the word. They take pieces of the bible to fit their religion of Christianity. No matter what you label yourself, whether gay, a pimp, a theif, a hooker, a drug addict, a sex addict, a liar, or whatever, you are a child of God. God doesnt love less because of your sins.
@LloydChristmas777..this is y maybe u dont believe. because there is a lot of confusion when some Christians believe they know it all instead of humbling themselves to realise they are not perfect either. How can i condemn a man and kill him of one sin when I am committing a sin myself...murder. As a Christian our job is to teach the word of God. As the bible says him who hears let them hear. Christianity is something that cannot be formed overnight. Understanding of it takes time and patience.
I think Mr Bahati acquits himself very well. It is reassuring that in a world obsessed with selfishness and hedonism some young people are prepared to stand up for decency.
homosexuality is found commonly in the animal world there are a pair of gay penguins in central park zoo, where they 'recruited' by some evil gay penguin master? Really? This guy is a knob, I go to church as a Christian and hate to see religion used as a weapon so sad :'-(
@pussycatjayne Yeah, but penguins are animals. Humans, on the other hand, where created in god's image. We are his children; we are the ones who have to follow his law. These laws don't apply to animals, which are beneath humans. ...At least that's what I expect a fundamentalist Christian might say to argue against your comment.
@pussycatjayne going to church does not make you a "Christian" , it is following the ethics that Christ established. Homosexuality in Christianity is considered as a sin and affront to God as specified in bible ( leviticus 18:22 ; Romans 1:26-27). To be honest I doubt I would have queried you if you were not a Christian ( As we are entitled to our religious views), but being a Christian and condoning sodomy is like being a democrat and being against freedom of speech. see the logic?
@justfourthen do some research into your own religion. The "sin" at Sodom & Gommorah had nothing to do with consenting adults taking it up the butt. It had to do with lack hospitality. Go back tot he original texts and not tainted translations.... and then explain why it was perfectly ok for the daughters to be raped by strangers and not the men.
the truth is if u execute the gays they will stop doing this sick acts.I firmly believe it's the only way to stop this menace.If the gays have their way the whole world will be in jeopardy.they are a worse menace to the world than alquaeda.I think soon the u.s will also start passing laws similar to uganda's.when baraka sodomite obama is removed from office of course.the world will soon realize that the gays must die.
the truth is if u execute the gays they will stop doing this sick acts.I firmly believe it's the only way to stop this menace.If the gays have their way the whole world will be in jeopardy.they are a worse menace to the world than alquaeda.I think soon the u.s will also start passing laws similar to uganda's.when baraka sodomite obama is removed from office of course.the world will soon realize that the gays must die.
If this ignorant animal thinks gay people are going to walk into the gas chambers at his request, no questions asked. HE CAN THINK AGAIN. It happened once before, BUT THIS TIME WE FIGHT!
This has been the response of tyrants throughout history. They hit back at that part of their own personality that they loathe, by singleing out the section of the population that displays those personality traits. Look at Hitler, it has been suggested that he had Jewish blood. Look what he did! This is by no way meant to be an insult to Jewish people, as I have Jewish blood my self, and am proud of it. I'm also gay. This man is a repressed homosexual.
This ignorant animal is about 5 steps below intelligent people, on the evolutionary ladder. Having just seen a programme on the B.B.C. on this very subject, I would say that most Ugandans, are ignorant , if they believe a stupid dumb ass like this. I suspect he is a repressed gay himself, and can't cope with the fact that he is gay. He seems to be showing all the classic patterns of anger and self loathing that point to this. How does he vent his frustration, by hitting out at innocent people.
@agf1pot whatever happened to just being normal? Traditional, Masculine ?? Or is it everytime anyone expressed any kind of discontent to the modern day misandric emasculated status quo, where gay culture is literally shoved down everyone's throat...they are a closeted gay??? That's just as dumb an ignorant as executing someone for being homosexual. I believe you, my gay Jewish friend need therapy...you probably had an overbearing mother who emasculated your father..and now you emulate her by
"debated thru a democratic process, in a democratic country..."
soo, is it ok to "democraticly" (is that a word?!) stablish a law that targets a minority just because of what they are?
the last time I heard such an argument was from a Nazi guy trying to defend Nazi "democratic" Germany treatment of the jews: "hey, what they did was ok, because the people supported the killing of the jews". even if that is true, is that justifiable?
He keeps talking about this being a democratic bill. What he doesn't realize is that a truly free society aims to be free of all tyranny. Even the tyranny of the majority.
1:03 "--is debated through a democratic process in a democratic country."
The problem is that popular opinion doesn't make something right or true. Especially when all the voters are biased against logic in favor of disgusting populism and forced theism.
This bill is not consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ. This is more of an Old Testament style of law and is a complete and atrociously hate-filled polar opposite of what Jesus taught. For those of us who believe in God, what he states and is a complete insult to our faith, and for those who don't believe, it's just another example of the many (too many) things wrong with religion.
@mrquiet2009 "For those of us who believe in God, what he states and is a complete insult to our faith" He and his ilk all believe in god. and: Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1, Jude 1:7. Your religion is anti-gay.
Conservative Christians in the USA will cause another 9/11, possibly a civil war, and the death of many innocent people all over the world. I suggest they be stopped at all costs. Seeing as most of them want to round up all the Muslims and "take care of them" (as they have done throughout history to any and all minorities) the same should be done to them.
@cpmondello The Devil's Children say "Tempting, but No." We don't WANT to be like them; we fight to be BETTER than them. "Take care of them," absolutely not.
I see some are unhappy with how "gentle" Rachel was on him. But you have to understand, she was restraining herself intentionally & with reason. She knows Americans won't be the only ones watching this. If she just raged at him, Bahati and Ssempa could claim he was being vilified & Americans are just trying to force Africans to follow American belief systems. She opted to go w/ curt politeness & pure logic. Both are lot harder to ignore than anger.The right move to support Ugandan LGBTQs.
@TheSisterWarrior So basically you are saying we should not care or intervene in any matters of human rights outside the US, then. Not genocide, not female genital mutilation, not child sex slavery, not death camps and rape camps. Or at least not when it involves gays and lesbians. How heartless.
When someone claims to have 'ultimate authority' on their side (god, jesus, allah. g-d), they've basically just said: "i have no need to listen to your side"
David Bahati made a fool out of himself on the Rachel Maddow Show this week. The nature of his anti-gay campaign is very fundamentalist. What we should be fighting in Uganda, and the rest of Africa indeed, is the "philosophy" of sodomism and not gay people. Children must be taught that it is unnatural, and therefore wrong. People are not born gay, they become gay. We obviously have no right to hang them!
if they truly were concerned for the children why not make recruitment illegal...... what a fallacy to use children as an excuse when they truly wants to just make murder legal....
I love all the ignorant people calling Rachel a cultural imperialist. Just because an uneducated democracy votes for something does not make it moral. Furthermore, I can't help but be amazed that out of all people in the world Africans are so closed minded. You would think they could relate to oppression from back in the slave days.
I guess this is just one other example of how low education and poverty really breed stupid people.
His country is sovereign. He does not want queers there. It is against their laws, customs, and he feels they pose a threat to Ugandans. I think he made his point very clear. When Ugandans come over to America and start imposing their ideals, then Rachel Madcow can holler. Until then she and all the other pedophile liberals need to shut the hell up.
@TheSistaWarrior yeah, 'cause conservatives are so good at not "imposing their ideals" on other people or other countries, like in Iraq or Afghanistan! Live and let live, that's American conservatism in a nutshell, right?! Respect for the principle of sovereignty, Bush was all up in that!
This man is like a disgusting, hateful broken record. All he has been taught to say is simply "protect the children" over and over again because he cannot piece together any coherent argument whatsoever. Love to see how imprisoning/executing gay children saves children.......
She was way too even handed with him, IMO. I mean -- not to compare him to Hitler, but -- what if she DID have Hitler on her show? Surely she wouldn't be so courteous and restrained. I'm not suggesting she fly into a rage or be out-of-control, but there is room in journalism to be vocally outraged by someone's position.
I also wish she had asked him what would happen to HER if she were to visit Uganda. Life in prison? Death? It's not clear whether he knows he's talking to a gay person.
Homosexuality is against God's Law? And he gets that from the Bible I presume. Ironic this comes from a black man. She should have then asked him, "if the Bible states God's Law, then surely you agree with slavery as condoned many times in the Bible?" I wonder what his response would be.
I thought, for a second, that he was going to say "this bill is consistant with the teachings of Tom Coburn. The illegal sterilizing senator from good ole Oklahoma. Not the overrated jewish carpenter
Obviously homosexuals can reproduce. They have reproductive organs like anyone else.
What's disgusting about their argument, however, is that they assume all homosexuals have been recruited by other homosexuals, as if they're vampires or something and if you follow the trail, you'll inevitably end up at the very first homosexual like some sort of final boss.
People are born gay. This is a fact that bigots won't accept, and is the basis for all their fear mongering.
@shawnthomasd What's your point? People who can't procreate should be killed? And also, gay people certainly can create life whether they do or not. And the fact that people can't or will not procreate doesn't make them anti-procreation--it's certainly not inherant.
Serioulsy - how many atheists go around condemning other people's life styles and then try to condemn them to death or life in prison? How many atheists have been involved in terrorist attacks?
Seems anything is justified if you have God in your corner
He is avoiding saying that in the Bible homosexuality is punishable by death becuase he knows it is wrong. Inferring that protecting kids from gays is a way of saying that gays are paedophiles.
It is for everyone to evolve to something more compassionate. He is being manipulated into promoting a Christian theocracy that The Family would love. He is so easily taken in because, as he said himself, he was orphaned at 3 years old. He has little sense of truly belonging so he picks on gays.
It hurts the family and children to have gay ppl in existance because of the way society views gays so the solution is to kill them.... which is making the society view gays in a bad light... Honestly my heart breaks for gays across the world when I hear ppl like this. I'm straight but I love the strength Rachel shows when talking to him about gay ppl being killed. I don't think I would have been able to do it.
I can't believe Rachael missed out on asking the most OBVIOUS question!!!!
The guy's argument is that homosexual recruit children. Ok, let's grant him that - let's say for sake of argument you have rock solid evidence of this. Now why would you then go and ban all of homosexuality instead of rationally imposing serious penalties for "proselytizing" homosexuality to children? By that logic, because some men rape women, that should mean we cut all male penis' off at birth... RIGHT? Brilliant!
in Africa they settle disputes with Machetes... this should be no surprise to anyone.
give them an option of asylum though like the US and let them live that way over there if they want... I'm a fag and honestly, just move somewhere else if they want to live that way....
Don't forget, this is all the result of American missionaries invading African cultures. forcing their religious views (mixed w/ their conservative politics) onto the locals. This is the result. Ppl who are perceived as gay are being attacked & killed. Plus the witch hunts. Africans killing their own children b/c they might be using "black magic". This is the fruit of Xtian missionary work. & are any of them taking responsibility? Are they doing anything to reverse the damage they caused? Nah.
samthor 5 days ago
wait...this is to protect the children? yeah cus gays are running around beheading everyone. not the military. not the corrupt government. not the straight people. they must have a lot of gay people if the gays can play such a major role in fucking up Uganda.
jessemh431 6 days ago
what an asshole why not shot him in the head
hitomi2232 6 days ago
the Bible can be used to justify slavery, Uganda. According to Leviticus 25:44-46 I am well with my rights to capture & enslave Ugandans and treat them as property...... You want to start using the Bible to justify hate, fear & ignorance and mistreatment of others...be careful what you wish for.
samthor 6 days ago
@samthor In context this passage comes in the era slavery was permissible and very much legal, permissible , widely practised and accepted by majority of people, not just by the isrealites but by also surrounding nations.In the broader context if you read philemon 1:10-18 , it talks about paul asking for pardon for a runaway slave and also asking for the status of servitude to be removed ! Christianity does not condone slavery and its a futile attempt to justify what God sees as despicable.
justfourthen 5 days ago
@justfourthen Bullshit. it's just picking & choosing for your own agenda. If they're going to use the Bible to justify persecution of gays, then i want slaves. If they can cherry pick the Bible, so can I. I want divorce outlawed and people arrested for getting haircuts. I want snake handling and speaking in tongues taught in school. Can't have it both ways. If slavery is "outdated thing of the past" then so is the anti- gay passages. Hypocrites.
samthor 5 days ago
@samthor Its not picking and choosing , its about the misinterpretation of the scriptures to argue your fragile point.Divorce in Christianity is permissible only on the grounds of infidelity, the bible is not against haircuts!! Snake handling!!?? (what are you on about)? Speaking in tongues is not THOUGHT , it comes naturally under the guidance of the holy spirit.You can go and embark on an enslavement spree but it would not be under any biblical basis,its just to gratify your conscience
justfourthen 5 days ago
@justfourthen Hair cuts- Leviticus 20:27 Snake handling- Mark 16:17-18 & Luke 10:19. Try to use the Bible to justify homophobia? (try actually reading it first) I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy. You can try to interpret and justify the slavery passages to your advantage. So what? So can I. This is why you can't base laws on scriptural interpretation. This is why church must be separated from the state. People are actually dying & suffering because of this church spewed hate.
samthor 4 days ago
@samthor I suggest you read (1 Corithinans 6 :9-11) where it depicts clearly what kind of people are likely not to go to heaven. And in the list homosexuals are included. Leviticus 20:27 does not talk about hair cuts but about consulting mediums! -"Any man or woman who consults the spirits of the death shall be stoned to death...". The latter scripture does entice Christians to start touching snakes or drinking poisons , but in case they harmed by any mentioned .they will not be harmed.
justfourthen 4 days ago
@justfourthen My bad. Lev 19: 27. I suggest you read Samuel 1 & 2 which is two entire chapters of the Bible devoted to a love story between 2 men. David loved Jonathan more than women. And then try to explain it away. Oh this passage is misinterpreted and outdated. That passage means something else entirely. Well guess what? all the supposed anti- gay passages are outdated and misinterpreted!
samthor 4 days ago
@samthor To explain away 90-95% of the Bible and then demand constitutional amendments and laws based on a few scant passages that have been translated & interpreted a certain way is bullshit hypocrisy. Remember we are talking about "KILL the gays" here. Where is the outrage over "thou shall not kill"? I'm sure that can be conveniently explained away as well. If heaven exists, there's way more gays in attendance than religious hypocrites.
samthor 4 days ago
@samthor I agree with you that , "killing the gays" is over the top, I believe Jesus "would have reproached the gays and told them to - go and sin no more-. Once they are consenting adults its their choice - on judgement day I believe each man will answer and be judged on his/her account , its not for any man to condemn anyone to death, unless it has breached a "countries laws( which excludes homosexuality)" and gone through a fair judicial process.
justfourthen 3 days ago
@samthor I knew this was going to come soon!!! Jonathan and David were just very good friends and there is no evidence to suggest that their relationship was sexual , in fact, David loved women so much, even in his old age!!! ,he had four wives and even slept with someone's wife !!! Jonathan had wives as well and children , one of which David spared as he was a cripple to show the bond of their friendship!
justfourthen 3 days ago
@justfourthen The word "homosexual" did not even appear in the Bible until 1946. In fact, my copy of 1 Cor 6:9-11 says nothing about homosexuals and instead uses the word "sexual perverts" which could very well be heterosexuals. If we go back to the original writing the word is "arsenokoites" which could be translated in a number of ways; "male prostitute" for one example. Which again makes any and all of these anti- gay passages outdated and misinterpreted as the passages about owning slaves.
samthor 4 days ago
@samthor Interesting...so by your logic are you implying being in a homosexual relationship is right but indulging in male prostitution is wrong?
justfourthen 3 days ago
@justfourthen I'm implying that the way the Ugandans are using the Bible to justify persecution and executing gays or anyone perceived as gay is wrong. People have used the Bible to justify slavery, and burning witches and all sorts of evil and unjust nonsense in the past. This is no different. Trying to defend how "sinful" homosexuality only supports the persecution. All the Ugandan deaths, all the persecution abroad and even kids bullied to death here in the states is the result.
samthor 1 day ago
@samthor agreed :)
justfourthen 1 day ago
i wish she went off on him. she was way to easy on him
abighairywoman 3 weeks ago
@mista901897 which are clearly far more destructive than a monogamous homosexual relationship?
ArizonaByThe27 3 weeks ago
@mista901895 So why is the bible being used as a teed wrench for such issues when you yourself admit that it doesn't sufficiently cover areas such as pedophilia and incest
ArizonaByThe27 3 weeks ago
@morlives Revise your grammar, firstly. Your mentality is that which is why our country remains at a social standstill.
ArizonaByThe27 3 weeks ago
@mbyamukama So you're essentially trying to solve one problem by causing another one.
ArizonaByThe27 3 weeks ago
He respects the views of America? More like he respects our money... we need to leave these Neanderthals in the dark ages and move our own country forward.
seesushi 1 month ago
The Bible, actually, says little to nothing in the area of homosexuality. Anyone who would like to argue against me in that, I'm up for debate.
ArizonaByThe27 1 month ago
@ArizonaByThe27 the bible also says little about pedophilia and incest. So what?
mista901895 3 weeks ago
"Homosexuality is not a part of our culture in Uganda."
Then why is it present in Uganda??
atheistram 2 months ago
someone please shot this stupid motherfucker in the head
sigfus811 3 months ago
Today Oct 14 2011, Obama has decided to aid "Uganda Peoples Defence Force" in its war against the 'Lords Resistance Army" both violators of human rights. Torture continues to be a widespread practice among both armies. Attacks on political freedom in the country, including the arrest and beating of opposition Members of Parliament is not uncommon. What will be Obama's excuse now? Save the gays? oops, no. The fanatic religious Ugandan ruling class that Obama is supporting wants to kill them.
northerntropics 4 months ago
@willtsichkestudios its not murder when you are killing in the name of god. its one of those great loop holes you find in religions that are more about controlling people and giving power to the church, more then it is about spiritual enlightenment.
Fireflygamer 5 months ago
Uganda's "Kill The Gays Bill" Must Be Stopped!, sign this pettition at:
change.org/petitions/ugandas-government-ugandas-kill-the-gays-bill-must-be-stopped
sercouto 5 months ago
How is homosexuality a human right when sodomites are sub human?
bachmann4president 7 months ago
@bachmann4president, your being subhuman stems from your being mentally and morally defective; your being a flaming sodomite is not the problem. I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
GodCreatesGays2 4 months ago
@bachmann4president How exactly are sodomites subhuman??? Is this according to your Holy Book? :D
atheistram 2 months ago
Dumbass Africans talk about how homosexuality is something that comes from the western world yet you read a bible that comes from the western world that was used to opress your own people. Thats how you can tell black people are fucked in the head.
nyncblue 8 months ago
@nyncblue Beyond the racism in your comment, I just want to comment that he actually was educated in the Western World! Cardiff University, UPenn, Masters in University of Wales.. All that good stuff. I'm even more appalled that someone as 'educated' as him can be so ignorant.
runningchocolate 7 months ago
@runningchocolate Well I myself am black and infact my dad is from Ghana so if I sound racist towards my own race then so be it. There are times where I really feel the need to say something about my own people and I strongly feel that what I said was right. Secondly your appaled at his ingnorance because of his education. One thing I've learned is that you can go to the top universities in the world and become a rocket scientist but still say and do some ignorant things.
nyncblue 7 months ago
@nyncblue Thank you for your nice response. You don't know how hard and rare it is to get a nice, civil response to comments here. Yes, I agree to many things you've mentioned - I do know that we're usually harder on our own people/culture because we expect a lot more from them. And that ignorance, unfortunately, seems to be something that plagues people from all walks of life. I would have hoped that it's curable by education, but alas! Have a great day! :)
runningchocolate 7 months ago
America should stop providing financial aid to these ridiculous countries that goes against or stand in opposition to our basic views.
cyberbar20 8 months ago
i have soo much respect for rachel, he doesnt answer questions at all, she is so patient, i would be fuming after a interview like that. idk how she does it but i love her for it
mrmiahmoo 9 months ago
He speaks of "God's Law". Clearly Christianity, imposed upon Africa by European conquerors and forced upon slaves brought to the Americas. He is so lost and has lost his own roots of religion. What a dumb fuck.
sexyboy737NG 9 months ago
@sexyboy737NG
He is a dumb fuck. I never understood that about Africans, black Americans, Mayans, and other cultures destroyed by Christianity, why would you believe in a religion that killed you, destroyed your culture and history. I get so frustrated with these people.
searching4dtruth 5 months ago
Rachel missed the opportunity to articulate the following basic challenge to Bahati's argument: if "homosexual recruitment" of Ugandan children is the problem, then why doesn't the law focus on those alleged activities directly and exclusively, instead of persecuting private, adult, consensual relationships? How are the latter relevant to the former? Then, of course, she would've had to keep her thumb on Bahati to stop him from squirming out of that one (which she is more than capable of doing)!
eleguaaugele 9 months ago
@eleguaaugele, exactly my thoughts. I was very interesting to see him squirm out of the question of why not focus on the exact activity rather than the sexual orientation of an entire culture. Imagine if there was a death penalty for religious people recruiting children in schools.
LloydChristmas777 9 months ago
@LloydChristmas777: I wouldn't exactly put religious procelytizers to death, but sending them on a one-way mission to Antarctica to save penguin souls sounds like a great idea... ;-)
eleguaaugele 9 months ago
Why is is so hard for some people to understand that being gay and being a pedophile is not the same thing? Is it really so fucking hard to understand?!
EuforiArvensis 9 months ago
THIS STUPID ASS is talking of Gods law! is killing in Gods law?! ohh cmon! be educated you look stupid on the video..hyy what waste!
iankit 9 months ago
BLAH BLAH BLAH PROTECT CHILDREN! UR MAKING THE CHILDREN AS AN EXCUSE! to your stupid bill!
iankit 9 months ago
anyone "defending family tradition" is likely to be.... how do I put this nicely.... dumb as dog shit. This could be a good thing. A couple of photoshopped images could get all of these assholes executed for the very crimes they created! In fact, I believe this is the exact plan that should be put into effect. Just add their faces to a big gay group sex scene, and send it to a bunch (all) of their publications.
skywize 11 months ago
@skywize, not a bad idea.
LloydChristmas777 9 months ago
@LloydChristmas777 Thank you, thank you, lol. I meant every word too.
skywize 9 months ago
Firstly this guy is foolishhhhh. I am a believer of God....and it is because of some Christians who look at religion RATHER than looking at the true teachings of God, become single minded and not seek the wisdom and knowledge of the word. They take pieces of the bible to fit their religion of Christianity. No matter what you label yourself, whether gay, a pimp, a theif, a hooker, a drug addict, a sex addict, a liar, or whatever, you are a child of God. God doesnt love less because of your sins.
Erica1D 11 months ago
@Erica1D, as an Atheist, thank you for that comment.
LloydChristmas777 9 months ago
@LloydChristmas777..this is y maybe u dont believe. because there is a lot of confusion when some Christians believe they know it all instead of humbling themselves to realise they are not perfect either. How can i condemn a man and kill him of one sin when I am committing a sin myself...murder. As a Christian our job is to teach the word of God. As the bible says him who hears let them hear. Christianity is something that cannot be formed overnight. Understanding of it takes time and patience.
Erica1D 9 months ago
I think Mr Bahati acquits himself very well. It is reassuring that in a world obsessed with selfishness and hedonism some young people are prepared to stand up for decency.
tigerbaiter1 11 months ago
@tigerbaiter1
Standing up for ignorance or oppression is nothing to be proud off.
bassbaine 11 months ago
@bassbaine
Standing up for families and children certainly is. And flipping the bird to the neocolonialist western liberal agenda certainly is.
tigerbaiter1 11 months ago
@tigerbaiter1 except this does nothing for families or children, homosexuals are NOT A PROBLEM outside of the minds of bigots.
emikochan13 9 months ago
Good luck with that asshole!
MsDeandrea 1 year ago
homosexuality is found commonly in the animal world there are a pair of gay penguins in central park zoo, where they 'recruited' by some evil gay penguin master? Really? This guy is a knob, I go to church as a Christian and hate to see religion used as a weapon so sad :'-(
pussycatjayne 1 year ago 6
@pussycatjayne Yeah, but penguins are animals. Humans, on the other hand, where created in god's image. We are his children; we are the ones who have to follow his law. These laws don't apply to animals, which are beneath humans. ...At least that's what I expect a fundamentalist Christian might say to argue against your comment.
TheMidwestAtheist 11 months ago
@pussycatjayne going to church does not make you a "Christian" , it is following the ethics that Christ established. Homosexuality in Christianity is considered as a sin and affront to God as specified in bible ( leviticus 18:22 ; Romans 1:26-27). To be honest I doubt I would have queried you if you were not a Christian ( As we are entitled to our religious views), but being a Christian and condoning sodomy is like being a democrat and being against freedom of speech. see the logic?
justfourthen 5 days ago
@justfourthen do some research into your own religion. The "sin" at Sodom & Gommorah had nothing to do with consenting adults taking it up the butt. It had to do with lack hospitality. Go back tot he original texts and not tainted translations.... and then explain why it was perfectly ok for the daughters to be raped by strangers and not the men.
samthor 5 days ago
this guy is a knob
pussycatjayne 1 year ago
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the truth is if u execute the gays they will stop doing this sick acts.I firmly believe it's the only way to stop this menace.If the gays have their way the whole world will be in jeopardy.they are a worse menace to the world than alquaeda.I think soon the u.s will also start passing laws similar to uganda's.when baraka sodomite obama is removed from office of course.the world will soon realize that the gays must die.
junyto12 1 year ago
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the truth is if u execute the gays they will stop doing this sick acts.I firmly believe it's the only way to stop this menace.If the gays have their way the whole world will be in jeopardy.they are a worse menace to the world than alquaeda.I think soon the u.s will also start passing laws similar to uganda's.when baraka sodomite obama is removed from office of course.the world will soon realize that the gays must die.
junyto12 1 year ago
Probably a closeted gay. They scream the loudest and quote white people's scripture to defend their hate
sleepysy 1 year ago
If this ignorant animal thinks gay people are going to walk into the gas chambers at his request, no questions asked. HE CAN THINK AGAIN. It happened once before, BUT THIS TIME WE FIGHT!
agf1pot 1 year ago 3
This has been the response of tyrants throughout history. They hit back at that part of their own personality that they loathe, by singleing out the section of the population that displays those personality traits. Look at Hitler, it has been suggested that he had Jewish blood. Look what he did! This is by no way meant to be an insult to Jewish people, as I have Jewish blood my self, and am proud of it. I'm also gay. This man is a repressed homosexual.
agf1pot 1 year ago
This ignorant animal is about 5 steps below intelligent people, on the evolutionary ladder. Having just seen a programme on the B.B.C. on this very subject, I would say that most Ugandans, are ignorant , if they believe a stupid dumb ass like this. I suspect he is a repressed gay himself, and can't cope with the fact that he is gay. He seems to be showing all the classic patterns of anger and self loathing that point to this. How does he vent his frustration, by hitting out at innocent people.
agf1pot 1 year ago
@agf1pot whatever happened to just being normal? Traditional, Masculine ?? Or is it everytime anyone expressed any kind of discontent to the modern day misandric emasculated status quo, where gay culture is literally shoved down everyone's throat...they are a closeted gay??? That's just as dumb an ignorant as executing someone for being homosexual. I believe you, my gay Jewish friend need therapy...you probably had an overbearing mother who emasculated your father..and now you emulate her by
vasia2000 1 year ago
@vasia2000 taking the position on the bottom with your anus exposed.
vasia2000 1 year ago
This interview....is enlightening.
TheEpicion 1 year ago
"debated thru a democratic process, in a democratic country..."
soo, is it ok to "democraticly" (is that a word?!) stablish a law that targets a minority just because of what they are?
the last time I heard such an argument was from a Nazi guy trying to defend Nazi "democratic" Germany treatment of the jews: "hey, what they did was ok, because the people supported the killing of the jews". even if that is true, is that justifiable?
rafasoares7 1 year ago
More death and hate ... religion does it again ... what a surprise!
PacalB 1 year ago
Arrest everyone who eats tha poo-poo.
apathist04 1 year ago
Rachel Maddow ...American treasure. Just love her.
dstachon2002 1 year ago
This man is such a shit example of a human.
alexvegas 1 year ago
He keeps talking about this being a democratic bill. What he doesn't realize is that a truly free society aims to be free of all tyranny. Even the tyranny of the majority.
AestusL4 1 year ago
Two idiots talking to each other. On youtube. Very original.
Houshalter 1 year ago
Is that the "eat da poopoo" guy?
cjc813 1 year ago
People should be protected against that Bahati person and all who "think" alike..
I personally would sleep A LOT better if he weren't able to spread his unjustifiable vile hatred any further.
gilgameshismist 1 year ago
Ugandan respects other Sovereigns but wont respect its own citizens? Wow he is fucking dick.
TheVoices297 1 year ago
"The penalty for sin is death"
And so thanks to religion, murder becomes gods divine work.
BeardedBill86 1 year ago 48
1:03 "--is debated through a democratic process in a democratic country."
The problem is that popular opinion doesn't make something right or true. Especially when all the voters are biased against logic in favor of disgusting populism and forced theism.
TuucciZ 1 year ago
This is what happens whenever the Catholic church gets it's blood stained claws into a country.
rationalsalvation 1 year ago 2
he looks like a frog.
vanillavinefly 1 year ago
fuck god's law and fuck all religion if religion inspires hatred and evil then why should people respect god (regargdless of name or religion)
sonbobshiro 1 year ago
'Im not involved in a hate campaign.' Yeh right! And Mel Gibson just LOVES Jewish people.
punkmanjon 1 year ago 2
fuck the gay but dont kill dem loool!!
kajekury 1 year ago
what a fucking douche, people like this need to be "hunted down and hung" or at least educated...that might do some good,
iamwhy 1 year ago 3
This would be seriously scary if this guy didn't sound exactly like the right wing lunatics in the Republican party.
david030491 1 year ago
60 people don't want to save the children lolol hahaha
bigdicksmallnuts 1 year ago
who cares.... it's africa lolol who really cares about africa lolol
bigdicksmallnuts 1 year ago
disgusting murderer, he's a shame for his country. I wish you rot in hell you ugly dirty piece of shit
kallonme 1 year ago 2
@AlwaysAndForever1121 No, religion is bad. It is the root of all discrimination.
videoguy604 1 year ago
This bill is not consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ. This is more of an Old Testament style of law and is a complete and atrociously hate-filled polar opposite of what Jesus taught. For those of us who believe in God, what he states and is a complete insult to our faith, and for those who don't believe, it's just another example of the many (too many) things wrong with religion.
mrquiet2009 1 year ago
@mrquiet2009 "For those of us who believe in God, what he states and is a complete insult to our faith" He and his ilk all believe in god. and: Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Timothy 1, Jude 1:7. Your religion is anti-gay.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
we need to kill men with morone ties.....you know, to protect the children. they might convince the children to wear morone ties too
robertwc82 1 year ago 2
Conservative Christians in the USA will cause another 9/11, possibly a civil war, and the death of many innocent people all over the world. I suggest they be stopped at all costs. Seeing as most of them want to round up all the Muslims and "take care of them" (as they have done throughout history to any and all minorities) the same should be done to them.
cpmondello 1 year ago 3
@cpmondello The Devil's Children say "Tempting, but No." We don't WANT to be like them; we fight to be BETTER than them. "Take care of them," absolutely not.
ChurchOfKali66619 1 year ago
@ 1:40 - Nice, lady you are epic...
daymyth 1 year ago 3
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fanfune 1 year ago
I see some are unhappy with how "gentle" Rachel was on him. But you have to understand, she was restraining herself intentionally & with reason. She knows Americans won't be the only ones watching this. If she just raged at him, Bahati and Ssempa could claim he was being vilified & Americans are just trying to force Africans to follow American belief systems. She opted to go w/ curt politeness & pure logic. Both are lot harder to ignore than anger.The right move to support Ugandan LGBTQs.
fanfune 1 year ago 3
Well, there's ANOTHER reason not to go to Uganda.
JoeAverageSF 1 year ago 3
@TheSisterWarrior So basically you are saying we should not care or intervene in any matters of human rights outside the US, then. Not genocide, not female genital mutilation, not child sex slavery, not death camps and rape camps. Or at least not when it involves gays and lesbians. How heartless.
synergysun 1 year ago 2
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synergysun 1 year ago
fight aids, kill gays!
Martinez1887 1 year ago
When someone claims to have 'ultimate authority' on their side (god, jesus, allah. g-d), they've basically just said: "i have no need to listen to your side"
THAT's what scary about religous thinking.
AxeGrrrl 1 year ago
I detest people who keep talking about God and yet are so inherently hateful towards others.
cazlarkin 1 year ago 2
David Bahati made a fool out of himself on the Rachel Maddow Show this week. The nature of his anti-gay campaign is very fundamentalist. What we should be fighting in Uganda, and the rest of Africa indeed, is the "philosophy" of sodomism and not gay people. Children must be taught that it is unnatural, and therefore wrong. People are not born gay, they become gay. We obviously have no right to hang them!
mbyamukama 1 year ago
This video is irrelevant. It don't have anything to do with US economy & the tax cuts impact on the unemployed.
akamal1113 1 year ago
Wow, Rachel is just the best journalist I've ever come across.
David on the other hand, he needs a lot of therapy and possibly a boyfriend.
thegalwegian 1 year ago 34
if they truly were concerned for the children why not make recruitment illegal...... what a fallacy to use children as an excuse when they truly wants to just make murder legal....
csantiag27 1 year ago 2
...and what happens to LBGTQ children? How are they protected again?
zoxovox 1 year ago 6
I love all the ignorant people calling Rachel a cultural imperialist. Just because an uneducated democracy votes for something does not make it moral. Furthermore, I can't help but be amazed that out of all people in the world Africans are so closed minded. You would think they could relate to oppression from back in the slave days.
I guess this is just one other example of how low education and poverty really breed stupid people.
jumanji69 1 year ago
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His country is sovereign. He does not want queers there. It is against their laws, customs, and he feels they pose a threat to Ugandans. I think he made his point very clear. When Ugandans come over to America and start imposing their ideals, then Rachel Madcow can holler. Until then she and all the other pedophile liberals need to shut the hell up.
TheSistaWarrior 1 year ago
@TheSistaWarrior yeah, 'cause conservatives are so good at not "imposing their ideals" on other people or other countries, like in Iraq or Afghanistan! Live and let live, that's American conservatism in a nutshell, right?! Respect for the principle of sovereignty, Bush was all up in that!
burryp 1 year ago
Rachel should have recommended him the book "God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything".
This abomination of a man is completely corrupted by it.
FluidDeconstructor 1 year ago
If he says "protect our children" one more time I'm gonna strangle him.
n2thatguy 1 year ago 2
This man is like a disgusting, hateful broken record. All he has been taught to say is simply "protect the children" over and over again because he cannot piece together any coherent argument whatsoever. Love to see how imprisoning/executing gay children saves children.......
Whapastim2 1 year ago
"Protect the children" Bullshit. Maybe we should protect the gay children by outlawing heterosexuality?
kubush 1 year ago 2
@kubush. How about we just all try to coexist? (I'm sure you were being sarcastic...)
HELENz 1 year ago
@HELENz Yeah. Wouldn't actually want to outlaw heterosexuality, my gf wouldn't approve :P
kubush 1 year ago
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@HELENz Yeah. Wouldn't actually want to outlaw heterosexuality, my gf wouldn't approve :P
kubush 1 year ago
I say a group of gay white supremacists kidnap this fuck and gang rape him to death. He deserves nothing less.
kubush 1 year ago 4
She was way too even handed with him, IMO. I mean -- not to compare him to Hitler, but -- what if she DID have Hitler on her show? Surely she wouldn't be so courteous and restrained. I'm not suggesting she fly into a rage or be out-of-control, but there is room in journalism to be vocally outraged by someone's position.
I also wish she had asked him what would happen to HER if she were to visit Uganda. Life in prison? Death? It's not clear whether he knows he's talking to a gay person.
axelnelson 1 year ago 2
Homosexuality is against God's Law? And he gets that from the Bible I presume. Ironic this comes from a black man. She should have then asked him, "if the Bible states God's Law, then surely you agree with slavery as condoned many times in the Bible?" I wonder what his response would be.
roaminn 1 year ago
Smart Woman Vs Ignorant fool
Its not even a fair fight
rjrichme 1 year ago
@rjrichme I was incredibly impressed on how Rachel handled this delusional "man". She was very calm and engaged him in dialogue. Bravo, Rachel!
TheMartyrDJ 1 year ago
agreed good restraint and pateince when engaiging such an asshole
sonbobshiro 1 year ago
"converted into gay"
beatlegreg07 1 year ago
It sounds like he thinks homeosexuality is like a religion.
zubodybop 1 year ago
@zubodybop well it does involve getting on your knees
beatlegreg07 1 year ago 2
@zubodybop sorry for that awful joke
beatlegreg07 1 year ago
Oh my God, did he actually answer any of the questions...bla bla...the children...bla bla. I admire Rachel for doing this.
svetlayy 1 year ago
Simple. This dude LOVES the boys...
Rachel is a megastar for conducting this interview.
I'm sure she had to look at it as if she were talking to a confused child.
theogore 1 year ago
Christian Terrorism
akamal1113 1 year ago
Damn, I wish I had the brains, and eloquence that Rachel Maddow shows.
huskerbird1 1 year ago
I thought, for a second, that he was going to say "this bill is consistant with the teachings of Tom Coburn. The illegal sterilizing senator from good ole Oklahoma. Not the overrated jewish carpenter
huskerbird1 1 year ago
pt 2
The Rethuglicans and the religious right are trying to do it here. Fortunately many people here are educated and see through this deception.
In Uganda it's most likely going to be very effective and we'll be hearing a lot more from this David Bahati.
bcreason 1 year ago
There's a disconnect here.
Protect the children: Arrest the recruiters (If they exist) there is no need to go after all gays.
This gives the lie to idea that the proposed law is to protect the children. It's sole purpose is to legally persecute gays.
Gays are the new Jews and Bahati is out to be the Ugandan Hitler. Scapegoating and fear mongering are an effective means to power.
bcreason 1 year ago
This guy can EAT DA POO POO.
cowboyeinar 1 year ago
Obviously homosexuals can reproduce. They have reproductive organs like anyone else.
What's disgusting about their argument, however, is that they assume all homosexuals have been recruited by other homosexuals, as if they're vampires or something and if you follow the trail, you'll inevitably end up at the very first homosexual like some sort of final boss.
People are born gay. This is a fact that bigots won't accept, and is the basis for all their fear mongering.
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
@LoryLandskipper Gay vampires? Scary! LOL
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
@MarmaladeINFP
yeah they made a documentary about it. It was called twilight or something like that.
LoryLandskipper 1 year ago
Poor Rachel, it's hard to interview--let alone debate people who are delusional.
MaryJesusJoseph 1 year ago 2
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shawnthomasd 1 year ago
@shawnthomasd What's your point? People who can't procreate should be killed? And also, gay people certainly can create life whether they do or not. And the fact that people can't or will not procreate doesn't make them anti-procreation--it's certainly not inherant.
MaryJesusJoseph 1 year ago
@shawnthomasd what's your point? A stopped clock is right 2X a day.
SeparateisntEqual 1 year ago
gays hats my family
rba718 1 year ago
Does anybody in his right mind still opposes Hitchin's statement that religion poisons everything?
CosmopolitanNo1 1 year ago
Serioulsy - how many atheists go around condemning other people's life styles and then try to condemn them to death or life in prison? How many atheists have been involved in terrorist attacks?
Seems anything is justified if you have God in your corner
aduffield 1 year ago 3
He is avoiding saying that in the Bible homosexuality is punishable by death becuase he knows it is wrong. Inferring that protecting kids from gays is a way of saying that gays are paedophiles.
It is for everyone to evolve to something more compassionate. He is being manipulated into promoting a Christian theocracy that The Family would love. He is so easily taken in because, as he said himself, he was orphaned at 3 years old. He has little sense of truly belonging so he picks on gays.
mynameis677 1 year ago
wow, very strong of Rachel not to freak out at that guy... I think I would have just flat out told him off. He is such an idiot!!!
MikeandSara88 1 year ago
he is soooo dum,
brookes888 1 year ago
What a piece of human garbage. And yes, I mean the Ugandan!
PanWolven 1 year ago 3
That man loves children way too much. I bet he's a pedophile
ScaryGuy255 1 year ago 2
If Uganda ratifies this Bill then I personally will boycott all Ugandan produce. I hope others make the same choice.
Moustafro 1 year ago 2
Disturbing.
HenhousetheRed 1 year ago
Poor Ugandans
losarman 1 year ago 5
It hurts the family and children to have gay ppl in existance because of the way society views gays so the solution is to kill them.... which is making the society view gays in a bad light... Honestly my heart breaks for gays across the world when I hear ppl like this. I'm straight but I love the strength Rachel shows when talking to him about gay ppl being killed. I don't think I would have been able to do it.
jesskat 1 year ago 5
I can't believe Rachael missed out on asking the most OBVIOUS question!!!!
The guy's argument is that homosexual recruit children. Ok, let's grant him that - let's say for sake of argument you have rock solid evidence of this. Now why would you then go and ban all of homosexuality instead of rationally imposing serious penalties for "proselytizing" homosexuality to children? By that logic, because some men rape women, that should mean we cut all male penis' off at birth... RIGHT? Brilliant!
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion But the bible doesn't say that. He is immune to logic =/.
jakobdrewaut 1 year ago
in Africa they settle disputes with Machetes... this should be no surprise to anyone.
give them an option of asylum though like the US and let them live that way over there if they want... I'm a fag and honestly, just move somewhere else if they want to live that way....
HerrSpieldose 1 year ago
@HerrSpieldose think it's that easy to move to another country? I wonder if their American Express card can cover the one way ticket to Canada
MuskleBear 1 year ago
@MuskleBear well they'll be in heaven there, or Sweden, France or Austria or maybe the UK... those are all good candidates... LOL
HerrSpieldose 1 year ago
This idiots does anything the religious right in the US tells him, Pat Robertson would love to impose those same laws in the US.
a300pilotster 1