H.L.Gates represent a Class of Typical Afro-American who is completely out of touch with the plight of the Black-Male in America.H.L.G. obviously doesn't understand,there's safety in numbers.His numbers(black men) has been severely reduced,leaving him and many others like him venerable to Police harassment.The Escapism of the Black Bourgeois is now starting to haunt them.Perhaps this is a sign,of things to come?
I for one is outraged at the way that Sgt. Crowley talks on others sites about how he was about to "Frame" a middle aged Black Man here in the United States!!!
Sgt Crowley should be Fired for his "Contempteous" act of Sabatoge!!!!!
What type of Message do you think he wanted to send the Nation!!!! So what does that mean for "Future Endeavors"??
Sgt. Crowley has gotten the "Support" From Known "Racist" who are nothing but "Cowards" who sneak around !!
Who is the Nigger white people. They are the ones that have acted inappropreiate ane now they want to cry they are the victim same old story in Mass. Grow up all of you who dont know it serves not purpose to continue racism
There is nothing unfortunate about this. Gates was breaking down the door - a woman saw it and called police like she should have - he was arrested because he did not want to provide ID once he saw that the cops were white and furthermore, yelled racial slurs at the officers, which was obviously not shown on one-sided CNN. This is total bullshit. Even black officers said that the cop acted appropriate. What the fuck does CNN want, a riot? If blacks would BEHAVE properly, thinkg would be ok.
Don you should get your facts correct Professor Gates did comply with giving the police officier his ID, just another ignorant, arrogant, cop who thinks he is above the law,
Who is the Nigger white people. They are the ones that have acted inappropreiate ane now they want to cry they are the victim same old story in Mass. Grow up all of you who dont know it serves not purpose to continue racism
I just cannot believe Mayer Simmons extended an apology to a man (Gates) so clearly and vastly wrong in this incident. According to her words on ABC News, she called Gates to offer the apology before knowing the facts. In other words, she prejudged the incident (innocent black man, racist white man) just as Obama had done. When is she going to apologize to the officer for repeatedly saying he was wrong ("it should not have happened") during subsequent press conferences?
I am so sick of this bullshit. Lets face it, this black bastard hates white people like the majority of those bastards. "You pick on me cause I'm black." Whats with Nobama butting his ass into it. He went on the black bastards side right away didn't he? Butt out Nobama. Opens his big mouth and talks bad about the cops. Big mistake huh Nobama?
Mike calling people out of their names is really offense. It is people like you that continue to sprew words of hatred out of their months shame on you.
What does this black bastard teach? Gates is a professional racist and as an African American Studies professor his job depends (like J Jackson and Al Sharptons) on perpetuating racism. Another thing the leftist media is not broadcasting is that Sgt. Crowly has for the last 5 years, been teaching classes on how NOT to racial profile. He was hand picked by a BLACK supervisor to teach that class. What does Professor Gates teach? He teaches blacks to hate whites because of perceived oppression.
Panel of experts for what? White or black you must obey orders from officers. Police have heard every story in the book. So till we find out who is who you must be detained. I'm white and have been tossed around by cops. For not obeying the simple order to shut your fucking mouth and answer some questions.
nobody is above the law including police officers we pay them they should have to answer to the public its been far to long we have let them run shot gun over our lives, if everybody else has to answer for their actions, cops should be the first law abiding and yet them get by with far to much.
The mayor was on Gates' side before all the facts were out. I applaud the police officer union standing up in force and forcing even our overly-cocky new President to make his first apology. At least he had the courage to do so. Take note mayor of Cambridge and Gov. of Mass. Very little appalled me more about Obama, certainly nothing more so appealed him to me than his retraction.
and the hits keep coming police officer Justin Barrett of the Boston police department is on administrative leave pending a termination hearing for referring to Prof. Gates as a jungle monkey in e-mail messages to guardsmen and to The Boston Globe. D.C. lawyer Pepin Tuma was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct for saying I hate the police while talking to a friend on a public street about the arrest of Prof. Gates. Private or public there seems to be a pattern of abuse of this charge
I think it's only a little misunderstanding between the officer and the professor in analyzing and comprehending the situation. sometimes when a little thing happens people like to take seriously and of course to make it a national discussion. why we have to put ourselves into problem? we'd finish it peacefully. listen, racism is so bad for all of us. it's really doesn't matter what color you have because God only recognizes you from your good deeds.
I know the officer responded to a break in, I just wish he had taken the time to let the man prove he lives there and why he had to break in. As far as the woman who called, she did what is asked of all of us. Looking out for her neighbor. I do not think anyone should be attacking her for doing what she saw as a break in. I voted for Obama, but I think he should have not commented until he knew more. It' all blown out of proportion from what I see.
The only person who acted rationally in this situation was Lucia Whalen, Prof. Gates and Officer Crowley were both out of line the arrest IMO shows poor judgment and falsifying a police report could cause long lasting damage to the Officer, as it should.
If you really believe I made incorrect statements or as you call them lies please point them out. I am always open to correct information and would not knowing want to pass on incorrect information.
You are wholly unable to make a reasoned argument without resulting to childish name-calling and bullying. Or are you? I dare you to prove that you can be an adult.
are you really going to look into the facts or are you going to blame the police as usual? Let us hear the audio? Did that jack-ass professor tell a lie? Did the cop?
You blacks need to stop whining so much before someone bitch slaps you.
lie, with ablack cop that got there just after him. was there when he was warned, was there when Gates was arrested, oh now you'll call the black police officer a uncle tom.
What does the color of the cop have with anything? The police report has been made public and Crowley lied, facts don't care about color and neither should you.
You are the one who mentioned that a black cop got there there just after him like that should matter, their cops all they see is blue. The 911 call and Crowley's version of it are not the same, Lucia Whalen never mentioned 2 black men Crowley said she did, Lucia Whalen never mentioned backpacks Crowley said she did, Lucia Whalen said "I don't know if they live there and just had a hard time with their key." Someone isn't telling the truth recorded 911 call says that someone is Crowley.
If you refuse to show your identity no matter who y ou are then you deserve to be put in jail even when in your own home. If you are locked out of your car and you use a coat hanger and cops drive by and stop you then same thing they aresst you for failure to show ID.
Yes, it is unfortunate that Gates is a racist with a temper who got himself arrested for acting disorderly. So tired of hearing about this nonsense already....
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I hope congress investigates Obama for jumping to a racist conclusion with no details or facts..if a white president had said a black cop had acted stupidly for arresting a white guy with no facts they would be impeached.
This is not only a Cambridge issue. It's the police using excessive force in America issue. It's everywhere. There is a large grey area they can play the policy game. Police is given a license to arrest anyone they don't like.
I never mentioned anyone's race. All I said was that arresting a man at his own house for no other reason that a false call was made by an unnamed "neighbor". If the police officer saw the man's ID, the only acceptable end to the incident would be an apology from the officer, and that would be that.
If a police officer is too proud or too "gung ho" for that, then that's the problem. A man being upset about getting treated like a burgalar after having identified himself as householder stinks.
Of course it stinks, that is why charges were immediately dropped. But the cops lose these kinds of wrongful arrest cases in court, if there is a lawsuit, all the time. This was a test of authourity. In America, the state exists to serve the state. In the former Soviet Union, and Communist China, the Intividual exists to serve the state. The cop simply got mixed-up as to what country he was in. That is all.
I meant to say, in America, the State exists to serve the Individual. In communist contries, and facist dictatorships, the Individual exists to serve the state. The cop just had a moment of delerium, not knowing which country he was in.
People are going to use the racist excuse to get out of stuff now.
Then your going to end up with corrupt mexico style police because no one wants to be an police officer afraid that they might end up in jail for arresting someone who deserved it
Again based on media reports Prof. Gates was on his "estate" had Prof.Gates been on public property, i'e( the side walk) It may have warranted a detainment and/or arrest. and possible charges of "disorderly conduct" However, as a free man living in a "sovereign Country" The laws may be varible in contrast to the U.S.A
Gates is 65% white. His kids are 85% white. And this is about the cop breaking the law. This is America, a land of laws, and after Gates showed his ID, he was arrested. Which enraged him. And yelling at a cop in your home or on your property is not "disorderly conduct" under the laws of Massachusetts. It could happen to YOU. We are protected against unreasonable search and seizure in the comfort of our own homes. THIS IS AMERICA, a nation of Laws, not a Soviet Gulag during the Cold War!
although i agree that the only racism in this incident was on the part of Mr. Gates, you sir, are not helping the situation any by providing a reminder of the ignorance we still have in this country.
Its crazy to hear the president get involved in this so early. Usually they try to avoid these situations. Who knows what really happened here. Hopefully the truth comes out and it doesn't happen to be racism.
Gates started a website in 2000 called Africana com, in an effort to bring together the worlds blacks. However, he claims he is against Black Nationalism and supports bridging the gap between whites and blacks. Then shouldn't the website have been Africana/Europena com? Strange, don't you think? It's is a contradiction in terms!
Gates followed Crowley out, yelling and acting in a disorderly manner. "Yo mama this, yo mama that. He was warned twice to stop Only after drawing a crowd and disturbing the peace was he taken into custody. The bleeding hearts do not need to know the facts. Facts make matters complicated. We have a black man being arrested by a white officer. I mean, this must be racism. What else could this be?
this is fucking retarded, if the cops get called to a report of two black males trying to break into a house and when they get there there is one black mail that refuses to show is ID and is completely uncooperative what do u expect to happen, quit playing the fucking "race" card, racism had nothing to do with this, you dont do what the police tell you to do you go to jail, they never should of dropped the charge.
The recorded 911 conversation throws Gate's "I was racially profiled" accusation out the window. The caller referred to the would be perpetrators as "two gentlemen".
It should be noted that Crowley lied in his police report. He claims in his report that Whalen told him 2 black men with backpacks had been at the door. Whalen's 911 call does not support this and via her lawyer she has denied giving Crowley any more information when he arrived at the scene, therefore Crowley is a liar. What else in that report is a lie? It certainly lends credence to Gates contention that the report is full of lies and fabrications.
Yes, it was shown on TV that Mr. Crowley (great Ozzie-song) was fraudulent in his police report. Shame on Officer Crowley, who had better hope that Professor gates does not sue, as the police lose these types of cases on a regular basis. Everyone must obey the law, including cops, that is the whole point.
no, he had plenty of reason to arrest him, and the DA dropped charges because he was black, now THAT is racist, all gates had to do was cooperate, but no, its racist for a white cop to ask a black man to show ID after responding to a call of a attempted break in on a house only to find a black male inside with the front door open and obvious signs of unlawful entry. God forbid that a black male should be held to the same standard as the rest of america, we wouldnt want that.
Let me get this straight he wasnt arrested cause he was black but the charges were dropped because he was black? That makes a lot of sense......NOT. If I am in my own home and a cop comes in and starts asking me questions about breaking in after I show him this is my house than he is full of it. God forbid the rest of America would get a clue and realize that this doesnt add up.
Try to keep up here slo mo, the COP SHOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY....thats what you do when you are in the right and have power. When you are wrong BS like this happens.
It's clear that Professor Gates was the one to make this a racial incident, and that Sgt. Crowley was simply forced by an irate, belligerent, and hostile man to make an arrest he didn't want to have to do I would treat the police respectfully and would never insult their mothers and provoke them to a fight like Gates did in front of many witnesses who all agree he acted stupidly, like his President
It's clear?! Really? You were there? Becuuse if you listened to whats going on here you know that clear it is not. Like how the call came in to 911 that it was two black males only to find out through the released 911 tapes the caller didnt know what the race was yet some how the officer put in his report that he was told that it was two black males. And if a crime was committed why was he released and no charges filed? Use your head dude it's called a cover up.
The caller referred to the would be perpetrators as "two gentlemen". It's all on tape. There are reports that Gates' home had been burglarized before, hence the neighbors' compelety rational behavior in calling 911. The next time someone sees what appears to be a break in at Gates' house they should go back to watching TV and let whoever it is finish the job. That, unfortunately, is the "teachable moment" that Obama and Gates are trying to ram down our throats.
Except that the 911 caller was not a neighbor, she was a passer-by, and she is clear in the 911 call that she is not sure that a break-in is in progress. It's curious that Crowley claims in his report that Whalen reported 2 black men with backpacks when she in fact did not, but by all means don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument.
You do not need any facts. Facts make matters complicated. We have a black man being arrested by a white officer. I mean, this must be racism. What else could this be? Lol...
We don't know the facts and now that the police report has been revealed as containing lies we may never know the whole truth. We do now know that the word of this officer is not infallible and that perhaps more weight should be given to Gates version of events. Was it racism? Who knows? You have to wonder why Crowley reported that he'd been told 2 black men with backpacks were seen when in reality the report was 2 men, 1 possibly Hispanic, with suitcases. Preparation to testily seems likely.
There you go again. The caller didnt know who Gates was or that his home had been burgularized before, thats BS. And to top it off she didnt see the incident she was reporting the call from info she got from the lady who saw it. BUT EVEN THAN they are not to blame for what the cop did or the report he submitted he is. The only mistake Obama made was commenting on the actions of these two fools with out knwoing the whole story something that every one does including yourself.
of course you wouldnt get arrested after you showed that it was your house, but if you refuse to show ID (wich you are required to do by law) or provide any proof that it is your house, what do you expect to happen? its obvious to anyone that has any sense that racism did not have anything to do with this arrest. If this happened to me there would be no chance in hell that the charges would be dropped. But im not retarded enough to disobey the police, only black people get away with that.
or he could of just did what every other american would have to do, show his fucking ID. you are stating that because he is famous he shouldnt be held to the same standard as the rest of america. Its against the law for ANYONE to refuse to show ID to a police officer, no matter how "famous" you are.
If your aunt had balls she would be your uncle. You were not there so you dont know what happened but since you already chose the officers side and blamed black people for it we know you dont have a clue as well. And no it wouldnt happen to you because you not black.
The cop broke the law. It is not against the law to yeall at a cop in your own property or on your front porch. Identity had already been established, and the professor was justifiably outraged. The arrest was false, and If gates sues, he would win easily.
how the fuck did the cop break the law? simple and plain, it is against the law to refuse to show your ID to a police officer, no, his outrage is not justifiable.
It is NOT against the law to show your ID to a police-officer in YOUR OWN HOME. In America, your home is your castle, sacrosanct, you are guaranteed the right under the US Constitution to be free from unreasonable search and seizure". That is why we are a nation of LAWS, of by and for the people, not Stormtroopers in blue. The only laws broken were Gates' arrest.
You're an idiot! they were investigating a break in, and in that case a person is obligated by law to produce ID, and just because you show an ID does not mean you belong there, for all they knew he could of been an estranged husband that was not supposed to be there, and that's what showing an ID and cooperating with the officers would of revealed but Mr Gates was belligerent and uncooperative and that's why he was arrested assclown! It had nothing to do with racism on the part of the cops!
So he should have bent over and let the police ass-fuck him in his own home. I cant believe they didnt know hwo professor Gates was, living in Cambridge. According to Massachusetts law, it is not against the law to yell at a cop, in your own porch. Thes kinds of cases of "disorderly conduct" false-arrests are thrown out all the time, then the arrested parties sue, and the police always have to pay a substantial judgement, plus court costs. Many police are really stupid and screw themselves.
Yes because obama would rather appologize to the world than appologize for race baiting and not knowing the facts and truth before speaking...If its not race baiting; then our president is incompetent. On second thought, his teleprompter did recently break.
I'm sure he didn't appreciate being accused of burgalizing his own house. That being said, this incident of a shouting match out of control has the Mayor makeing a commision up to investigate the problem, the President haveing to take time out of Global economic issues to deal with this, when we all know what happened. No need to spend $1 million dollars when it is just a matter of two hotheads not listening to each other, Gates & the cops.
To arrest an old man at his own house for no reason other than in response to an "annonomous tip" is wrong, no matter how this is "explained" by law enforcement.
This "incident" should have been resolved within 45 seconds, ending with an apology from the police officer, who would chalk it off as a false tip from an unidentified "citizen".
why should the police officer apologize? for doing his job? thats retarded. the incedent should of been resolved by gates cooperating, but god forbid a black man should have to obey the same laws as the rest of america, remember, we still owe them.
lol, you are a fucking idiot, learn the facts, that cop is not a racist, if gates would of just cooperated none of this would of happened, the only thing thats racist about it is that the police dropped the charges because he was black, and didnt want the media storm that would come from charging a harvard proffessor for breaking the fucking law.
As far as I can summisze based on media reports... Prof. Gates was alledgedly, protesting the trespassing of his property and bringing attention to this violation alledgedly, insuit by the Police Force.
Obviously you have very little knowledge of police procedures or law in general. Mr. Gates had the opportunity to re-enter his house as the officer was descending the steps to leave. He chose not to do so, but continued to be disorderly. He was not forced to be outside his house when the officer was leaving. You do not know the facts of this case. He was not arrested for not obeying a police officer, he was arrested for being disorderly in public after two warnings
The police still remained on his ( Prof. Gates) property. I agree with you when you say that the facts are not clear , again based on media reports. How can a person be "disorderly" based on law when he is in the sanctuary of his own abode and property? Giovanna NYC.You are right to say I' am not familiar with "general knowledge"of police procedures implemented in the U.S.A.
The problem was that Gates was not arrested for being disorderly in his own home. He was arrested for his conduct once he left his home and began following Gates, AFTER Crowley determined that Gates did reside there. Gates would have been fine if he would have simply remained inside his home, and if he wouldn't have launched his tirade outside.
Even if you are outside, on your own property, you are not "disorderly" under massachusetts law, which the cop broke. If there was a suit, the cops would lose. The cops are sued for this kind of thing all the time, and they usually LOSE, because of our constitution, that the republicans love to hate!
Your residence also includes your front porch, property, etc. The newsman on MSNBC said year ago, also in Cambirdge, he was similarly arrested on "disorderly-conduct" charge. Charge was dropped, the newsguy sued, and won a substantial amount of money, including court costs. Thes cases happen all the time, and the cops always lose. If you listen to the phone report, it does not mention race, but the police-call report does, conflicting with the cop's and caller's accounts. So the cop broke laws!
No links but there are at least 2 legal precedents that support Gates. The 2004 Commonwealth v. Lopiano decision and the Commonwealth v. Mallahan 2008 decision both upheld the rights of citizens to be verbally abusive to police officers even in a public place. Look them up if you are actually interested. Also, it does not matter if Gates owns the house or not, he is the legal resident.
In Commonwealth V. Mallahan the court stated "Words alone are not sufficient to establish tumultuous conduct. " Gates would not be guilty of "disorderly conduct" even had this incident occurred off of his property since his only alleged act was to use foul or offensive language.
H.L.Gates represent a Class of Typical Afro-American who is completely out of touch with the plight of the Black-Male in America.H.L.G. obviously doesn't understand,there's safety in numbers.His numbers(black men) has been severely reduced,leaving him and many others like him venerable to Police harassment.The Escapism of the Black Bourgeois is now starting to haunt them.Perhaps this is a sign,of things to come?
sovern009 7 months ago
******SGT. CROWLEY EXPOSED*********
I for one is outraged at the way that Sgt. Crowley talks on others sites about how he was about to "Frame" a middle aged Black Man here in the United States!!!
Sgt Crowley should be Fired for his "Contempteous" act of Sabatoge!!!!!
What type of Message do you think he wanted to send the Nation!!!! So what does that mean for "Future Endeavors"??
Sgt. Crowley has gotten the "Support" From Known "Racist" who are nothing but "Cowards" who sneak around !!
pabankhead1 2 years ago
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Boogiethacoolest:
Who is the Nigger white people. They are the ones that have acted inappropreiate ane now they want to cry they are the victim same old story in Mass. Grow up all of you who dont know it serves not purpose to continue racism
avrilforever1 2 years ago
Whats a cracker...
I guess it's all those suckers fighting in Iraq???
ryeNcoke 2 years ago
That nazi cracker cop should be forced to apologize to Gates. If I was his boss I'd order him to do it, or be fired!
ejr23 2 years ago
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miket1m 2 years ago
There is nothing unfortunate about this. Gates was breaking down the door - a woman saw it and called police like she should have - he was arrested because he did not want to provide ID once he saw that the cops were white and furthermore, yelled racial slurs at the officers, which was obviously not shown on one-sided CNN. This is total bullshit. Even black officers said that the cop acted appropriate. What the fuck does CNN want, a riot? If blacks would BEHAVE properly, thinkg would be ok.
DonRoccoCiciarelli 2 years ago
Don you should get your facts correct Professor Gates did comply with giving the police officier his ID, just another ignorant, arrogant, cop who thinks he is above the law,
Boogiethacoolest 2 years ago
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miket1m 2 years ago
this is how NIGGERS behave.
avrilforever1 2 years ago
Who is the Nigger white people. They are the ones that have acted inappropreiate ane now they want to cry they are the victim same old story in Mass. Grow up all of you who dont know it serves not purpose to continue racism
Boogiethacoolest 2 years ago
I just cannot believe Mayer Simmons extended an apology to a man (Gates) so clearly and vastly wrong in this incident. According to her words on ABC News, she called Gates to offer the apology before knowing the facts. In other words, she prejudged the incident (innocent black man, racist white man) just as Obama had done. When is she going to apologize to the officer for repeatedly saying he was wrong ("it should not have happened") during subsequent press conferences?
stewartx5 2 years ago
I am so sick of this bullshit. Lets face it, this black bastard hates white people like the majority of those bastards. "You pick on me cause I'm black." Whats with Nobama butting his ass into it. He went on the black bastards side right away didn't he? Butt out Nobama. Opens his big mouth and talks bad about the cops. Big mistake huh Nobama?
Don't they make you dislike them immensely?
miket1m 2 years ago
Mike calling people out of their names is really offense. It is people like you that continue to sprew words of hatred out of their months shame on you.
Boogiethacoolest 2 years ago
What does this black bastard teach? Gates is a professional racist and as an African American Studies professor his job depends (like J Jackson and Al Sharptons) on perpetuating racism. Another thing the leftist media is not broadcasting is that Sgt. Crowly has for the last 5 years, been teaching classes on how NOT to racial profile. He was hand picked by a BLACK supervisor to teach that class. What does Professor Gates teach? He teaches blacks to hate whites because of perceived oppression.
miket1m 2 years ago
Panel of experts for what? White or black you must obey orders from officers. Police have heard every story in the book. So till we find out who is who you must be detained. I'm white and have been tossed around by cops. For not obeying the simple order to shut your fucking mouth and answer some questions.
imtellinthetruth 2 years ago
nobody is above the law including police officers we pay them they should have to answer to the public its been far to long we have let them run shot gun over our lives, if everybody else has to answer for their actions, cops should be the first law abiding and yet them get by with far to much.
Boogiethacoolest 2 years ago
A panel of experts? To do what?
Open Pandora's Box. Keep the ball rolling?
Grow up.
TAMARLANE 2 years ago
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696styx 2 years ago
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696styx 2 years ago
The mayor was on Gates' side before all the facts were out. I applaud the police officer union standing up in force and forcing even our overly-cocky new President to make his first apology. At least he had the courage to do so. Take note mayor of Cambridge and Gov. of Mass. Very little appalled me more about Obama, certainly nothing more so appealed him to me than his retraction.
care1281 2 years ago
Obama, EPIC FAIL.
makeinstall 2 years ago
and the hits keep coming police officer Justin Barrett of the Boston police department is on administrative leave pending a termination hearing for referring to Prof. Gates as a jungle monkey in e-mail messages to guardsmen and to The Boston Globe. D.C. lawyer Pepin Tuma was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct for saying I hate the police while talking to a friend on a public street about the arrest of Prof. Gates. Private or public there seems to be a pattern of abuse of this charge
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
I think it's only a little misunderstanding between the officer and the professor in analyzing and comprehending the situation. sometimes when a little thing happens people like to take seriously and of course to make it a national discussion. why we have to put ourselves into problem? we'd finish it peacefully. listen, racism is so bad for all of us. it's really doesn't matter what color you have because God only recognizes you from your good deeds.
kissmaiasssss 2 years ago
I know the officer responded to a break in, I just wish he had taken the time to let the man prove he lives there and why he had to break in. As far as the woman who called, she did what is asked of all of us. Looking out for her neighbor. I do not think anyone should be attacking her for doing what she saw as a break in. I voted for Obama, but I think he should have not commented until he knew more. It' all blown out of proportion from what I see.
12Sady 2 years ago
You don't even know the facts.
Trikkerman3 2 years ago
Whalen's statement is out !
The Tape is also out !
we need the panel of forensic experts to study every word, every syllable, every punctuation, every sentences in the Officer Crowley's Police report!
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KalachakraandOBeast 2 years ago
The only person who acted rationally in this situation was Lucia Whalen, Prof. Gates and Officer Crowley were both out of line the arrest IMO shows poor judgment and falsifying a police report could cause long lasting damage to the Officer, as it should.
If you really believe I made incorrect statements or as you call them lies please point them out. I am always open to correct information and would not knowing want to pass on incorrect information.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
Don't give it a second thought I didn't think you were up to it.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
You are wholly unable to make a reasoned argument without resulting to childish name-calling and bullying. Or are you? I dare you to prove that you can be an adult.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
Love it!
12Sady 2 years ago
Two grown men act like children and we're all supposed to give a shit.
Gates reacted badly because he has a chip on his shoulder. The officer then tried to flex his muscle but Gates wasnt having any of it.
Try to take authority with police and you end up in a cell. Black or white thats just how it works.
madmanmickyd 2 years ago
are you really going to look into the facts or are you going to blame the police as usual? Let us hear the audio? Did that jack-ass professor tell a lie? Did the cop?
You blacks need to stop whining so much before someone bitch slaps you.
BeachCory 2 years ago
Officer Crowley should be fired for his abuse of authority.
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Blissananda 2 years ago
There is nothing that needs to be changed. when a cop tells you to stfu, no mater if you are white black pink or green. You stfu.
standforamerica 2 years ago
and when they lie on an official report you fire them. Bye Bye Crowley
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
lie, with ablack cop that got there just after him. was there when he was warned, was there when Gates was arrested, oh now you'll call the black police officer a uncle tom.
standforamerica 2 years ago
What does the color of the cop have with anything? The police report has been made public and Crowley lied, facts don't care about color and neither should you.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
WOW now that's a question you need to be asking gates. What the color of the cop has to do with anything.
if it would have been a black cop and was arrested he would be call the black cop a uncle tom as all black racist do.
fuuny Crowley's and the other black cop that was there, report's match pretty much word for word.
so guess it's time for you to call the black cop a uncle tom.
Just like all you racist blacks.
standforamerica 2 years ago
You are the one who mentioned that a black cop got there there just after him like that should matter, their cops all they see is blue. The 911 call and Crowley's version of it are not the same, Lucia Whalen never mentioned 2 black men Crowley said she did, Lucia Whalen never mentioned backpacks Crowley said she did, Lucia Whalen said "I don't know if they live there and just had a hard time with their key." Someone isn't telling the truth recorded 911 call says that someone is Crowley.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
If you refuse to show your identity no matter who y ou are then you deserve to be put in jail even when in your own home. If you are locked out of your car and you use a coat hanger and cops drive by and stop you then same thing they aresst you for failure to show ID.
The cops were right.
inachu 2 years ago
Yes, it is unfortunate that Gates is a racist with a temper who got himself arrested for acting disorderly. So tired of hearing about this nonsense already....
barklikeamonkey 2 years ago
Is it really necessary to use such foul language to get your point across or simply express your opinion?
cjpartain 2 years ago
go eat shits, you fucking moron
tillaylomo 2 years ago
your profile shows that you are fucking racist
tillaylomo 2 years ago
Mayor, you need to do a full investigation into the Cambridge Police Department for for possible coverup in this case.
Once everything is revealed, then maybe Obama should differ his opinion accordingly.
tomcatpak 2 years ago 3
Uppity vs stuppidly
696styx 2 years ago
Just because Uncle Tom is da Prez don't mean uppity is cool
696styx 2 years ago
we are laughing about Your Jewish_Brainwashed rogue state
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ssvalhall 2 years ago
Zieg Heil Israel!
inachu 2 years ago
"You MUST OBEY der Kommandant. Your identity papers, PLEASE! Heil Hitler!"
This is America. Not Stalag-17. We are a nation of LAWS, and the constitution. Not of jackbooted stormtroopers in blue.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago 2
One by one, step by step, the American people will come to realize that Obama hates America. The America that we all rely on. The America that we all grew up in. The America that we all love. He is attempting to dismantle everything "American" and instead, to install a socialist, anti-capitalist system of government that has failed everywhere it has been tried. He is a lawyer. Not a businessman. Not a scientist. Not an environmental expert. Not a statesman. Not much at all. Just a lawyer.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
overboard, and "old" people are angry because Obama's medical care program (proposed) relegates them to the "go stand in the dead pile" category. Just "drop dead" old folks, no medical care for you. The military industrial complex is watching very closely as Obama dismantles their opportunities for employment. So far, the voting public is becoming alarmed at the extent of O'Bummer's plans to spread the poverty around in the guise of making reparations.
The financial markets are not happy either
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
Like I said somewhere else here today. As Obama has set about to dismantle America as we know it, he has also begun to unwind himself. Given enough rope, he will hang himself. Alienating constituencies right and left, this time the law enforcement professionals, yesterday the doctors (performing illegal unnecessary operations for profit). He already disowned the constituency that comprises the insurance profession, accusing them of making "profits". Oil and gas professionals have been thrown
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
All she have to do is make racial profiling against the law in her city and stop trying to kiss blue terrorist asses!
deefirst 2 years ago
Look, already we have several genius conservative rebuattals. See what I mean?
unclemeat2u 2 years ago
I hope congress investigates Obama for jumping to a racist conclusion with no details or facts..if a white president had said a black cop had acted stupidly for arresting a white guy with no facts they would be impeached.
townleyn8 2 years ago
Wow, someone actually quoted a case.
I'm sure, however, there will be endless brilliant conservative rebuttals to that information as well.:)
It never ends on You tube...
It never ends
unclemeat2u 2 years ago
This is not only a Cambridge issue. It's the police using excessive force in America issue. It's everywhere. There is a large grey area they can play the policy game. Police is given a license to arrest anyone they don't like.
overseachininadoll 2 years ago
And this arrest make the USA look like life under dictatorship. Even in China they don't arrest people for that.
overseachininadoll 2 years ago
Nice Mug Shot.
4U2TakeBackAmerica 2 years ago
I never mentioned anyone's race. All I said was that arresting a man at his own house for no other reason that a false call was made by an unnamed "neighbor". If the police officer saw the man's ID, the only acceptable end to the incident would be an apology from the officer, and that would be that.
If a police officer is too proud or too "gung ho" for that, then that's the problem. A man being upset about getting treated like a burgalar after having identified himself as householder stinks.
polkadotbox2 2 years ago
Of course it stinks, that is why charges were immediately dropped. But the cops lose these kinds of wrongful arrest cases in court, if there is a lawsuit, all the time. This was a test of authourity. In America, the state exists to serve the state. In the former Soviet Union, and Communist China, the Intividual exists to serve the state. The cop simply got mixed-up as to what country he was in. That is all.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
I meant to say, in America, the State exists to serve the Individual. In communist contries, and facist dictatorships, the Individual exists to serve the state. The cop just had a moment of delerium, not knowing which country he was in.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
Mouth wide open screaming and acting like and idiot, why where the charges dropped?
Seer1126 2 years ago
he is lucky the charges where droped
why where the charges dropped was it because he was friend with Obama
Seer1126 2 years ago
Yes it was unfortunate that GATES was UNABLE to behave like a decent citizen in public.
rwpeterson3 2 years ago
The Officer was 100% in arresting his ass.
People are going to use the racist excuse to get out of stuff now.
Then your going to end up with corrupt mexico style police because no one wants to be an police officer afraid that they might end up in jail for arresting someone who deserved it
TheLiberalssuckdick 2 years ago
why we talking about this gay ass nigger who really fucking cares
nazitroll09 2 years ago
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pianomanmaestro 2 years ago
In some cases yes! However, Canada is a Crown Corporation not a Capiltist Corporation!
phfrankh 2 years ago
Again based on media reports Prof. Gates was on his "estate" had Prof.Gates been on public property, i'e( the side walk) It may have warranted a detainment and/or arrest. and possible charges of "disorderly conduct" However, as a free man living in a "sovereign Country" The laws may be varible in contrast to the U.S.A
phfrankh 2 years ago
More niggers standing up for other niggers.
paperattack 2 years ago
Gates is 65% white. His kids are 85% white. And this is about the cop breaking the law. This is America, a land of laws, and after Gates showed his ID, he was arrested. Which enraged him. And yelling at a cop in your home or on your property is not "disorderly conduct" under the laws of Massachusetts. It could happen to YOU. We are protected against unreasonable search and seizure in the comfort of our own homes. THIS IS AMERICA, a nation of Laws, not a Soviet Gulag during the Cold War!
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
although i agree that the only racism in this incident was on the part of Mr. Gates, you sir, are not helping the situation any by providing a reminder of the ignorance we still have in this country.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
Not nice!
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
Its crazy to hear the president get involved in this so early. Usually they try to avoid these situations. Who knows what really happened here. Hopefully the truth comes out and it doesn't happen to be racism.
98weirdscience 2 years ago 2
The only racism perpetrated here was on the part of professor Gates.
Mrcharliebobo 2 years ago 2
i wish i could give you more than one thumbs up.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
To me it seems like the Blacks in the case are the prejudice ones, Obama racially profiled these white Officers.
officersangel 2 years ago 3
Gates started a website in 2000 called Africana com, in an effort to bring together the worlds blacks. However, he claims he is against Black Nationalism and supports bridging the gap between whites and blacks. Then shouldn't the website have been Africana/Europena com? Strange, don't you think? It's is a contradiction in terms!
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
I didn't know that. This is starting to get scary.
98weirdscience 2 years ago
I just wanna hear from Gates own mouth exactly wtf happened. No more. No less.
moviedude22 2 years ago
Gates followed Crowley out, yelling and acting in a disorderly manner. "Yo mama this, yo mama that. He was warned twice to stop Only after drawing a crowd and disturbing the peace was he taken into custody. The bleeding hearts do not need to know the facts. Facts make matters complicated. We have a black man being arrested by a white officer. I mean, this must be racism. What else could this be?
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
this is fucking retarded, if the cops get called to a report of two black males trying to break into a house and when they get there there is one black mail that refuses to show is ID and is completely uncooperative what do u expect to happen, quit playing the fucking "race" card, racism had nothing to do with this, you dont do what the police tell you to do you go to jail, they never should of dropped the charge.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago 3
The recorded 911 conversation throws Gate's "I was racially profiled" accusation out the window. The caller referred to the would be perpetrators as "two gentlemen".
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
It should be noted that Crowley lied in his police report. He claims in his report that Whalen told him 2 black men with backpacks had been at the door. Whalen's 911 call does not support this and via her lawyer she has denied giving Crowley any more information when he arrived at the scene, therefore Crowley is a liar. What else in that report is a lie? It certainly lends credence to Gates contention that the report is full of lies and fabrications.
dbrydges 2 years ago
Yes, it was shown on TV that Mr. Crowley (great Ozzie-song) was fraudulent in his police report. Shame on Officer Crowley, who had better hope that Professor gates does not sue, as the police lose these types of cases on a regular basis. Everyone must obey the law, including cops, that is the whole point.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
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pianomanmaestro 2 years ago
Now this is some one with a cool head something that cant be said for crowely and Gates.
clnmike 2 years ago
crowely had a cool head, what are you talking about?
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
Not if he arrested a man in his own home just to relase him later with no charges he didnt.
clnmike 2 years ago
no, he had plenty of reason to arrest him, and the DA dropped charges because he was black, now THAT is racist, all gates had to do was cooperate, but no, its racist for a white cop to ask a black man to show ID after responding to a call of a attempted break in on a house only to find a black male inside with the front door open and obvious signs of unlawful entry. God forbid that a black male should be held to the same standard as the rest of america, we wouldnt want that.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
Let me get this straight he wasnt arrested cause he was black but the charges were dropped because he was black? That makes a lot of sense......NOT. If I am in my own home and a cop comes in and starts asking me questions about breaking in after I show him this is my house than he is full of it. God forbid the rest of America would get a clue and realize that this doesnt add up.
clnmike 2 years ago
Hello, ground control to major tom....... come on space cadet time get off the bong
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
Try to keep up here slo mo, the COP SHOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY....thats what you do when you are in the right and have power. When you are wrong BS like this happens.
clnmike 2 years ago
It's clear that Professor Gates was the one to make this a racial incident, and that Sgt. Crowley was simply forced by an irate, belligerent, and hostile man to make an arrest he didn't want to have to do I would treat the police respectfully and would never insult their mothers and provoke them to a fight like Gates did in front of many witnesses who all agree he acted stupidly, like his President
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
It's clear?! Really? You were there? Becuuse if you listened to whats going on here you know that clear it is not. Like how the call came in to 911 that it was two black males only to find out through the released 911 tapes the caller didnt know what the race was yet some how the officer put in his report that he was told that it was two black males. And if a crime was committed why was he released and no charges filed? Use your head dude it's called a cover up.
clnmike 2 years ago 4
The caller referred to the would be perpetrators as "two gentlemen". It's all on tape. There are reports that Gates' home had been burglarized before, hence the neighbors' compelety rational behavior in calling 911. The next time someone sees what appears to be a break in at Gates' house they should go back to watching TV and let whoever it is finish the job. That, unfortunately, is the "teachable moment" that Obama and Gates are trying to ram down our throats.
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
Except that the 911 caller was not a neighbor, she was a passer-by, and she is clear in the 911 call that she is not sure that a break-in is in progress. It's curious that Crowley claims in his report that Whalen reported 2 black men with backpacks when she in fact did not, but by all means don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument.
dbrydges 2 years ago
You do not need any facts. Facts make matters complicated. We have a black man being arrested by a white officer. I mean, this must be racism. What else could this be? Lol...
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
We don't know the facts and now that the police report has been revealed as containing lies we may never know the whole truth. We do now know that the word of this officer is not infallible and that perhaps more weight should be given to Gates version of events. Was it racism? Who knows? You have to wonder why Crowley reported that he'd been told 2 black men with backpacks were seen when in reality the report was 2 men, 1 possibly Hispanic, with suitcases. Preparation to testily seems likely.
dbrydges 2 years ago
There you go again. The caller didnt know who Gates was or that his home had been burgularized before, thats BS. And to top it off she didnt see the incident she was reporting the call from info she got from the lady who saw it. BUT EVEN THAN they are not to blame for what the cop did or the report he submitted he is. The only mistake Obama made was commenting on the actions of these two fools with out knwoing the whole story something that every one does including yourself.
clnmike 2 years ago
of course you wouldnt get arrested after you showed that it was your house, but if you refuse to show ID (wich you are required to do by law) or provide any proof that it is your house, what do you expect to happen? its obvious to anyone that has any sense that racism did not have anything to do with this arrest. If this happened to me there would be no chance in hell that the charges would be dropped. But im not retarded enough to disobey the police, only black people get away with that.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
Next-door neibors or his lawyer could have verified his ID, plus Professor Gates is world-famous, except to public-SERVANTS.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
or he could of just did what every other american would have to do, show his fucking ID. you are stating that because he is famous he shouldnt be held to the same standard as the rest of america. Its against the law for ANYONE to refuse to show ID to a police officer, no matter how "famous" you are.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago 3
If your aunt had balls she would be your uncle. You were not there so you dont know what happened but since you already chose the officers side and blamed black people for it we know you dont have a clue as well. And no it wouldnt happen to you because you not black.
clnmike 2 years ago
The cop broke the law. It is not against the law to yeall at a cop in your own property or on your front porch. Identity had already been established, and the professor was justifiably outraged. The arrest was false, and If gates sues, he would win easily.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
how the fuck did the cop break the law? simple and plain, it is against the law to refuse to show your ID to a police officer, no, his outrage is not justifiable.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
It is NOT against the law to show your ID to a police-officer in YOUR OWN HOME. In America, your home is your castle, sacrosanct, you are guaranteed the right under the US Constitution to be free from unreasonable search and seizure". That is why we are a nation of LAWS, of by and for the people, not Stormtroopers in blue. The only laws broken were Gates' arrest.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
yes, it is against the law to refuse to show your ID, no matter where you are, idiot. and this would not be defined as "unreasonable"
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
You're an idiot! they were investigating a break in, and in that case a person is obligated by law to produce ID, and just because you show an ID does not mean you belong there, for all they knew he could of been an estranged husband that was not supposed to be there, and that's what showing an ID and cooperating with the officers would of revealed but Mr Gates was belligerent and uncooperative and that's why he was arrested assclown! It had nothing to do with racism on the part of the cops!
Mrcharliebobo 2 years ago 3
So he should have bent over and let the police ass-fuck him in his own home. I cant believe they didnt know hwo professor Gates was, living in Cambridge. According to Massachusetts law, it is not against the law to yell at a cop, in your own porch. Thes kinds of cases of "disorderly conduct" false-arrests are thrown out all the time, then the arrested parties sue, and the police always have to pay a substantial judgement, plus court costs. Many police are really stupid and screw themselves.
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
Yes because obama would rather appologize to the world than appologize for race baiting and not knowing the facts and truth before speaking...If its not race baiting; then our president is incompetent. On second thought, his teleprompter did recently break.
rocketmansniper 2 years ago
He could have just said,"this is my house and I can't get in!!! martinmary555 catch my video
martinmary555 2 years ago
@tradernorton01
Why is Gates racist? One of his parents is white and he married a white woman.
Care to revise your comments?
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TRUTH
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JeffreyJayFisher 2 years ago
I'm sure he didn't appreciate being accused of burgalizing his own house. That being said, this incident of a shouting match out of control has the Mayor makeing a commision up to investigate the problem, the President haveing to take time out of Global economic issues to deal with this, when we all know what happened. No need to spend $1 million dollars when it is just a matter of two hotheads not listening to each other, Gates & the cops.
valhala56 2 years ago
To arrest an old man at his own house for no reason other than in response to an "annonomous tip" is wrong, no matter how this is "explained" by law enforcement.
This "incident" should have been resolved within 45 seconds, ending with an apology from the police officer, who would chalk it off as a false tip from an unidentified "citizen".
polkadotbox2 2 years ago
this 'genius" did something stupid breaking into his house, when all he had to do was get his cell phone out and call Harvard maintenance. Stupid.
vedicastrol 2 years ago
I agree polkadotbox2
cool70200 2 years ago
why should the police officer apologize? for doing his job? thats retarded. the incedent should of been resolved by gates cooperating, but god forbid a black man should have to obey the same laws as the rest of america, remember, we still owe them.
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GetLostInCompost 2 years ago
the only ones who did not make this into a race issue was the cops.
ive lost all respect for obama.
legalizemarijuananos 2 years ago
i want a lie detective test
i want change
i want laws to stop rogue cops
i want finds for lying cops or anyone to lies under oath
i want laws to stop the racist media from destroying people lives, this is the same thing they did to michael jackson
accountability4all 2 years ago
I want "finds" for lying cops too. We need to finds those lying cop sonsabitches!
NathanielFaunce 2 years ago
LOL! What's a "lie detective test"?
By the way, the media means nothing without the population supporting them.
gnrlusr8 2 years ago 3
lol, you are a fucking idiot, learn the facts, that cop is not a racist, if gates would of just cooperated none of this would of happened, the only thing thats racist about it is that the police dropped the charges because he was black, and didnt want the media storm that would come from charging a harvard proffessor for breaking the fucking law.
dustinallen1982 2 years ago
What "LAW" did Prof. Gates break?
As far as I can summisze based on media reports... Prof. Gates was alledgedly, protesting the trespassing of his property and bringing attention to this violation alledgedly, insuit by the Police Force.
phfrankh 2 years ago 3
Obviously you have very little knowledge of police procedures or law in general. Mr. Gates had the opportunity to re-enter his house as the officer was descending the steps to leave. He chose not to do so, but continued to be disorderly. He was not forced to be outside his house when the officer was leaving. You do not know the facts of this case. He was not arrested for not obeying a police officer, he was arrested for being disorderly in public after two warnings
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
The police still remained on his ( Prof. Gates) property. I agree with you when you say that the facts are not clear , again based on media reports. How can a person be "disorderly" based on law when he is in the sanctuary of his own abode and property? Giovanna NYC.You are right to say I' am not familiar with "general knowledge"of police procedures implemented in the U.S.A.
phfrankh 2 years ago
The problem was that Gates was not arrested for being disorderly in his own home. He was arrested for his conduct once he left his home and began following Gates, AFTER Crowley determined that Gates did reside there. Gates would have been fine if he would have simply remained inside his home, and if he wouldn't have launched his tirade outside.
MystikWizard 2 years ago
Even if you are outside, on your own property, you are not "disorderly" under massachusetts law, which the cop broke. If there was a suit, the cops would lose. The cops are sued for this kind of thing all the time, and they usually LOSE, because of our constitution, that the republicans love to hate!
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
Can you produce a link that states that you "can not be arrested for disorderly conduct outside your residence in the state of Massachusetts"?
On a side note, I believe that property belongs to the University, and not Gates himself.
MystikWizard 2 years ago
Your residence also includes your front porch, property, etc. The newsman on MSNBC said year ago, also in Cambirdge, he was similarly arrested on "disorderly-conduct" charge. Charge was dropped, the newsguy sued, and won a substantial amount of money, including court costs. Thes cases happen all the time, and the cops always lose. If you listen to the phone report, it does not mention race, but the police-call report does, conflicting with the cop's and caller's accounts. So the cop broke laws!
Beamshipcaptain 2 years ago
No links but there are at least 2 legal precedents that support Gates. The 2004 Commonwealth v. Lopiano decision and the Commonwealth v. Mallahan 2008 decision both upheld the rights of citizens to be verbally abusive to police officers even in a public place. Look them up if you are actually interested. Also, it does not matter if Gates owns the house or not, he is the legal resident.
dbrydges 2 years ago
And my final question is would this apply if Gates traveled off his property and followed the officer to cause a scene?
MystikWizard 2 years ago
In Commonwealth V. Mallahan the court stated "Words alone are not sufficient to establish tumultuous conduct. " Gates would not be guilty of "disorderly conduct" even had this incident occurred off of his property since his only alleged act was to use foul or offensive language.
dbrydges 2 years ago 2
Sounds like a typical, normal, Harvard Professor to me, too.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
Ahh Canadian? Aren't your laws similiar?
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago
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miket1m 2 years ago
serve and protect - do not F&^% with me... or I will go full reta@# on you a@@
PirateScream 2 years ago