A very good video. I would need to watch it several times to catch the captions, as they go quite rapidly. Hopefully, you can create an additional video with slower captions.
So please tell me how is it determined that a passage in the bible is hyperbole or proverbs? Is there a star at the end of a line or passage that indicates its status? Is there a legend at the beginning or end of the bible with a list of what is a hyperbole or a proverb? Who gets to decide which is which? Does every person think the same passage is a particular type? If there is a difference of opinion who is right who decides who is right and why?
In hebrews 12:09-10 we see a comparison being done between the chastising of our flesh by our earthly fathers and the non-violent chastising of God unto his children. in verse 10 it shows that the only form of chastisment that is profitable to the one receiving it is that which comes from God while that done unto our flesh by our fathers is not profitable to us but only feeds the pleasures of those that inflict it !
according to the new testiment corporal punishment can not be considered wisdom because it contradicts every description put forth for wisdom in james 3:17 also according to the new teswtiment corporal punishment can not be considered love -see 1john 4:18.
corporal punishment cant be considered wisdom by new testiment standards james 3:17-18 but the wisdom that is from above is first pure,then peaceable, gentle,and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hipocracy. and the fruite of the riteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace. corporal punishment cant be considered love by new testiment standards 1 john 4:18
Corporal punishment is full of hipocracy and is not peacful or merciful and definitley not gentle so it can not be considered wisdom according to the new testiment's definition of wisdom. james 3:17-18 but the wisdom that is from above is first pure,then peaceable, gentle,and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hipocracy. and the fruite of the riteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
when a child is extremley abused or killed by a parent only then do pro-spankers condemn them. But if the law wants to bann all spanking as the only way to govern these problems ,pro-spankers get all upsit. so in other words ,kids getting killed is acceptable collateral damage neccesary to tolerate in order to protect the parents so-called right to spank there child.
the problem is the law in the US is set up to allow children to be hit with pretty much anything and does not set strict limits on how far it can go. That is, until the kid is killed basically, and I think we should put a stop to it far before that point.
in 1 corinthians 4:21 paul said shall i come at you with a rod,or insted in love and gentleness? this verse makes a clear distinction that coming at someone with a rod is in fact the opposite of love.
Yeah, its funny how the people quoting and bible bashing to exhort people to hit their kids miss such obvious distinctions. I wonder how many actually read with the intent to see what they should do instead of just looking to justify what they already want to do.
Jesus took our physical , painful chastisment for us on the cross so we could be at peace. before that all people were beat for there wrong doings even adults there is plenty of proof of this in the Bible. So how can someone claim to be a christian and not accept all of what christ did for us on the cross? Jesus said what you do to these little ones you do to me. By hitting your child you are hitting christ all over again.
They accept what he did, for themselves and fellow adults, but they decide not to apply that grace and compassion to children. It's a sickening double standard. Mercy for adults, harsh punishment for little children. It's completely backwards.
@EuphemiseThis I very much agree with you. Children need to be taught repentance for wrong-doing rather than have pain inflicted upon them. The infinite atonement of Christ was sufficient pain; children do not need more pain.
@sthomaslewis your very right, If one understand what spirituality is and how it works it becomes obvious that corporal punishemnt always has negative effects on the human spirit.And an unbalanced low vibration spirit is the cause of all problems( negative thoughts,negative feelings, and negative behaviors) The old testiment people did not understand spirituality In the hebrew language there is no word for "spirituality" Jesus was the first to teach such things.
they could have killed christ in a much more quick and less painful manner. And he was not simply a victim of there lack of mercy. Jesus told them that they have no powerover him other than that which is given from above. So why would God allow these beatings to go on? The Bible plainly explains this. "the chastisment of our peace was upon him" this is the Bibles explanation of why he had to suffer so much. This was christ delivering the human race from corporal punishment. cont.
Jesus said in the NT "it is better to have a limestone tied around your neck and cast into the sea as to offend one of these little ones" Paul said parents provoke not your children to wrath and to anger. the NT also teaches that the body is the temple of the holy spirit and not to bring any harm to it. Jesus died for our sins his death alone was enough to buy our salvation. so why did he have to endure so many beatings before his death. cont.
step 2 to this practice was to take the child out into the street and stone them until they were dead,in the event that the beatings didnt work. how can christians "cherry pick" the bible only picking out the scriptures that they think is socially acceptable? the stoning is part of the complete old testiment parenting instruction. Thankfully we were delivered fom this barbaric practice in the new testiment. cont.
first and formost every verse that people try to use to justify it comes from the old testiment Bible. In that old testiment bible it never gives permission to exchange a rod for a belt,switch,paddle,or hand, it never says how hard to hit them how much or how often. It does not say that the Butt is the proper place to hit them. This lack of regulation proves that the "beating" were in fact beatings ,very barbaric and very server.these beatings were so server that this practice had a fatal step2
Thank you for posting this video . i for the longest time thought i was the only christian on earth that seen it as sin to hitt your kids. I am a preachers son that was spanked with a belt and was told it was Gods will to hit me . i was showed a few verses out of the old testiment and expected to accept it and never question it....but i did and started studying the Bible for myself knowing that God was not in this practice. God started shoeing me many things in the Bible. continued......
By the way, hitting infants under two or hitting minors with objects such as sticks, rulers, belts, ect is now against the Canadian Supreme Court's ruling that this does not constitute "reasonable force."
Lets catch up to the rest of the world in following the UN convention on the rights of a child!
A very good video. I would need to watch it several times to catch the captions, as they go quite rapidly. Hopefully, you can create an additional video with slower captions.
sthomaslewis 6 months ago
So please tell me how is it determined that a passage in the bible is hyperbole or proverbs? Is there a star at the end of a line or passage that indicates its status? Is there a legend at the beginning or end of the bible with a list of what is a hyperbole or a proverb? Who gets to decide which is which? Does every person think the same passage is a particular type? If there is a difference of opinion who is right who decides who is right and why?
Christine
christinepeace 6 months ago
spare the rod spoil the child is not a verse in the proverbs as many believe and neither is finders keepers losers weepers.
JxT1957 9 months ago
In hebrews 12:09-10 we see a comparison being done between the chastising of our flesh by our earthly fathers and the non-violent chastising of God unto his children. in verse 10 it shows that the only form of chastisment that is profitable to the one receiving it is that which comes from God while that done unto our flesh by our fathers is not profitable to us but only feeds the pleasures of those that inflict it !
guidav123 1 year ago
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according to the new testiment corporal punishment can not be considered wisdom because it contradicts every description put forth for wisdom in james 3:17 also according to the new teswtiment corporal punishment can not be considered love -see 1john 4:18.
guidav123 1 year ago
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corporal punishment cant be considered wisdom by new testiment standards james 3:17-18 but the wisdom that is from above is first pure,then peaceable, gentle,and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hipocracy. and the fruite of the riteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace. corporal punishment cant be considered love by new testiment standards 1 john 4:18
guidav123 1 year ago
Corporal punishment is full of hipocracy and is not peacful or merciful and definitley not gentle so it can not be considered wisdom according to the new testiment's definition of wisdom. james 3:17-18 but the wisdom that is from above is first pure,then peaceable, gentle,and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hipocracy. and the fruite of the riteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
guidav123 1 year ago
when a child is extremley abused or killed by a parent only then do pro-spankers condemn them. But if the law wants to bann all spanking as the only way to govern these problems ,pro-spankers get all upsit. so in other words ,kids getting killed is acceptable collateral damage neccesary to tolerate in order to protect the parents so-called right to spank there child.
guidav123 1 year ago
Really-- children's rights trumps everything, period. Believe whatever you want, just don't hurt the kids. There's nothing more important.
wunwuntew 2 years ago
the problem is the law in the US is set up to allow children to be hit with pretty much anything and does not set strict limits on how far it can go. That is, until the kid is killed basically, and I think we should put a stop to it far before that point.
EuphemiseThis 2 years ago
in 1 corinthians 4:21 paul said shall i come at you with a rod,or insted in love and gentleness? this verse makes a clear distinction that coming at someone with a rod is in fact the opposite of love.
guidav123 3 years ago
Yeah, its funny how the people quoting and bible bashing to exhort people to hit their kids miss such obvious distinctions. I wonder how many actually read with the intent to see what they should do instead of just looking to justify what they already want to do.
EuphemiseThis 2 years ago
Jesus took our physical , painful chastisment for us on the cross so we could be at peace. before that all people were beat for there wrong doings even adults there is plenty of proof of this in the Bible. So how can someone claim to be a christian and not accept all of what christ did for us on the cross? Jesus said what you do to these little ones you do to me. By hitting your child you are hitting christ all over again.
guidav123 3 years ago
They accept what he did, for themselves and fellow adults, but they decide not to apply that grace and compassion to children. It's a sickening double standard. Mercy for adults, harsh punishment for little children. It's completely backwards.
EuphemiseThis 2 years ago
@EuphemiseThis I very much agree with you. Children need to be taught repentance for wrong-doing rather than have pain inflicted upon them. The infinite atonement of Christ was sufficient pain; children do not need more pain.
sthomaslewis 6 months ago
@sthomaslewis your very right, If one understand what spirituality is and how it works it becomes obvious that corporal punishemnt always has negative effects on the human spirit.And an unbalanced low vibration spirit is the cause of all problems( negative thoughts,negative feelings, and negative behaviors) The old testiment people did not understand spirituality In the hebrew language there is no word for "spirituality" Jesus was the first to teach such things.
atterolevad 3 months ago
they could have killed christ in a much more quick and less painful manner. And he was not simply a victim of there lack of mercy. Jesus told them that they have no powerover him other than that which is given from above. So why would God allow these beatings to go on? The Bible plainly explains this. "the chastisment of our peace was upon him" this is the Bibles explanation of why he had to suffer so much. This was christ delivering the human race from corporal punishment. cont.
guidav123 3 years ago
Jesus said in the NT "it is better to have a limestone tied around your neck and cast into the sea as to offend one of these little ones" Paul said parents provoke not your children to wrath and to anger. the NT also teaches that the body is the temple of the holy spirit and not to bring any harm to it. Jesus died for our sins his death alone was enough to buy our salvation. so why did he have to endure so many beatings before his death. cont.
guidav123 3 years ago
step 2 to this practice was to take the child out into the street and stone them until they were dead,in the event that the beatings didnt work. how can christians "cherry pick" the bible only picking out the scriptures that they think is socially acceptable? the stoning is part of the complete old testiment parenting instruction. Thankfully we were delivered fom this barbaric practice in the new testiment. cont.
guidav123 3 years ago
first and formost every verse that people try to use to justify it comes from the old testiment Bible. In that old testiment bible it never gives permission to exchange a rod for a belt,switch,paddle,or hand, it never says how hard to hit them how much or how often. It does not say that the Butt is the proper place to hit them. This lack of regulation proves that the "beating" were in fact beatings ,very barbaric and very server.these beatings were so server that this practice had a fatal step2
guidav123 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this video . i for the longest time thought i was the only christian on earth that seen it as sin to hitt your kids. I am a preachers son that was spanked with a belt and was told it was Gods will to hit me . i was showed a few verses out of the old testiment and expected to accept it and never question it....but i did and started studying the Bible for myself knowing that God was not in this practice. God started shoeing me many things in the Bible. continued......
guidav123 3 years ago
By the way, hitting infants under two or hitting minors with objects such as sticks, rulers, belts, ect is now against the Canadian Supreme Court's ruling that this does not constitute "reasonable force."
Lets catch up to the rest of the world in following the UN convention on the rights of a child!
EuphemiseThis 3 years ago